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diojek:
Can our leaders do the same

Are you not the same people that will not let them walk around in peace. Without asking “anything for the boys” or “your boys dey o”?

SULBELL:
well that is another angle to it,
So how will the Nigerian government deduce the amount paid to them abroad, (remember the government have no jurisdiction on their bank account abroad)
because as far as I know what the inland revenue does is look through the contract agreement to deduce the gross income.

1 Governments have bilateral tax avoidance and double taxation treaties and cooperation with different tax authorities.
2. In Nigeria, spending over 183 days in a year makes you eligible for income tax as you are considered resident in Nigeria for income tax. Other countries have different tax laws.
3: if you are a Nigerian resident foreigner and they suspect you are not paying the right taxes, they can request cooperation from your home country’s tax authorities.
4: international tax avoidance matters are like interpol, it is not in any country’s interest not to cooperate with the other country because next time it may your country that is owed taxes.

GigFc:
I might be wrong o, but wouldn't that mean that they already pay tax in their countries? And are also taxed through VAT when they use services in Nigeria?

Will you tax them twice on same salary?

It depends. If they are in Nigeria more than 183 days in a year then they are resident in Nigeria for tax purposes.

GigFc:
But these foreigners already pay income tax via PAYE or am I missing something?

Most of them either work in an organization or own a business and both are already statutorily taxed. Welcome to the Tax dispensation

Many are paid their salaries abroad and given a living allowance for Nigerian expenses.

hisexcellency34:
How will that put food on the table of the common man

If you work you will get food. Yesterday a panel beater made 20k from me and a painter from Benin republic made another N25k for a small fender bender. It is timely you made this post because I was thinking just yesterday that those who want to work are making money. If you are waiting for people to feed you, you will be hungry.

ceejayluv:
So his administration should stop complaining. He never bothered to criticize Buhari for once throughout the 8 year tenure. All cos of his ambition....

In fairness he isn’t complaining and has never complained. If anything he has repeatedly owned the problem of Nigeria whether of his making or not. CBN governor simply made a statement of technical fact.

Hezzyluv:
Na Tinubu packaged Buhari give us. So, e still dey logical to blame Tinubu/APC for the woes that betide Nigerian's economy.

Installing Buhari was the price Tinubu paid for becoming president. It is his responsibility to fix the mess created by Buhari.

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Sharingiscaring:
"Except for Nigerian nationals"? No other nationals? I know we are bad, but I doubt if we are the worst in the world.

Must we be the worst before you realize we have a problem with those tarnishing our image abroad?

Unfortunately word of mouth and what you can prove are 2 different things.

Awon Gaay

nairavsdollars:
What do you expect from an Akpabio led rubber stamp senate?

If only you had a stamp of any sort!

Teenaira:
Jesters

After a while this is no longer funny but an illness.

I have a lot of time for this Festus Osifo guy. There is a gulf of intellect between him and Ajaero.

Beverlyjean:
APC IS MADE UP OF DICTATORS...FROM TOP TO BOTTOM

Your problem is the incompetence of the opposition and the stupidity of its followers who do not make them accountable for their strategic lapses.

2019: things were tough but APC won because PDP were focussed on hacking INEC server. Atiku at the time selected a VP candidate that did not contribute to his numbers. Infact SE had less votes for PDP than in 2015. Strategic mistake he should have chosen a VP from SW to split the SW vote since the SE will never vote APC and their votes are in the bag

2023: Together they had 14m votes but because of ego and internal wrangles, the man with 8m votes won.

Edo: the governor alienated everybody, both within and outside his own party including a politically powerful deputy governor, disregarded zoning formula, performed badly in terms of governance, insulted the revered Oba, brought in English speaking candidates that don’t live among or resonate with the people and from the same senatorial zone.

Every time the opposition make strategic blunders then blame INEC or the courts. I have said this many times that the problem with PDP and it’s splinter groups is they are not democrats, only won elections in the era of rigging. As soon as rigging became more difficult their fortunes plummeted. They are not master election strategists. Their default mode is rigging and bribing judges. Unfortunately things have moved on with electoral reforms and they have not adapted.

For so long as they continue to blame INEC and the judiciary for their failings and their supporters swallow the narrative they will have no cause to take stock and truly asses where they keep going wrong. It is the duty of PDP and LP supporters to tell your leaders to STFU and be strategic, close ranks like the APC, do whatever deal needs to be done to enter an election as one and win fairly. You their supporters need to tell them enough of this blaming INEC and the courts. Tell them do your homework!!

APC win elections because they understand the voters, they are strategic, pragmatic and leave nothing to chance. If a monkey is the one that can win an election APC will field a monkey even if the monkey stole the party chairman’s food. The opposition will say how can I step down for a monkey talk less one that stole my food….that is why they are permanently in opposition.

Elections are not about speaking English, they are not even about how good the candidate is. Elections are about where are the votes, what are the demographics of the voters, who can we field that those voters Will vote for. Democracy is not always about the best candidate but the will of the majority. This is the basic error opposition politicians and their supporters repeatedly fail to understand. So when we tell you Obi for instance cannot be president we are telling you because the demographics don’t favour him. If he likes let him run for the next 30 years he will never win. Field someone else! We have told you, you won’t hear, when he loses again you will say rigging or corrupt judiciary.

Good governance and electability are 2 different things. Ask Awolowo, no matter how good your governance skills, no matter how good your governance skills, if you cannot win the election your abilities are merely a story for the gods. In hindsight Akintola was right, sometimes in politics you have to make “deals with the devil” to win the election to put your governance abilities to practice.

The first job of a politician is to win the election, every thing else is secondary. You cannot implement your “good” ideas in opposition. In the era of rigging it is about out rigging the others but in the current environment where it is difficult to rig it is about being strategic and understanding the voter demographics. PDP opposition and its offshoots have not yet understood this and have yet to migrate their mindset from the pure rigging era pre 2015 to the electoral reforms, data and demographics driven era.

instead of parroting their excuses and blame games, you should be lambasting the opposition to for their serial electoral strategic incompetence. how can an incumbent party be delivering difficult times for the electorate and keep winning elections 2019,2023, 2024 because the opposition keep shooting themselves in the foot? At what point will the opposition take responsibility for this? At what point are the opposition supporters going to say to the opposition WTF is wrong with you people that you cannot get your houses in order to defeat a party that has brought so much hardship to the people? At what point are you going to put the blame where it belongs?

senatordave1:
But one can be emotional and objective

An extremely rare trait amongst Nigerians. Unfortunately the emotional propensity of Nigerians encourages politicians to be lazy because they can always blame rigging and their supporters will lap it up.

You had 14m votes in an election but you lost because you couldn’t agree amongst yourselves so you blame INEC and the judiciary despite the fact that you presented no evidence of rigging at the court.

You alienate your deputy governor who is from a senatorial district. You ignore zoning formula. You fight everybody who helped you in the past, insult a revered King and critically there is nothing to show for your 8 years in office. You bring a man that is not well known amongst the people. You lose the election, you blame INEC, your brainless supporters believe you and the cycle continues because you are not incentivized to be strategic.


Even the clown whose candidate got less than 10% of the vote was blaming rigging! If you don’t take responsibility for your errors of judgement you will repeat the same mistakes in the next elections.

Putt

senatordave1:
Oshiomhole made and has unmade Obaseki. This election was very easy to predict, I don't know why most guys didn't foresee the outcome...cc jorussia, famology, indispensable85,kedeojo,theceaser, donphilopus

Most people are emotional and dont use their brains.

All I want to know is…..is he still wearing Fendi?

We4all:
Ogbeni, does the information on google come from heaven or from blogs and Nairaland?

keep asking stoopid questions instead of taking the correction

thats why they refer to you as "lazy youth"

Racoon:
They are rejects in the PDP and rejects in the APC. So where do they belong now? Perhaps they are now collateral damage of Nyesom Wike power tussle in Rivers State.

use your brain. they are PDP members officially but "APC" in the war against Fubara. If APC officially confirms they are APC members then they will be forced to vacate their seats.

We4all:
Which candidate did the governor's wife described as unmarried? I thought it was the APC man, but I read somewhere that he was marrried with kids.

in less time it took you to type this you could have googled "edo gubernatorial elections wife unmarried"

MadPolitician:
Noted
The government always give us examples with America, Britain and Bhutan whenever they want to add to our burden through petrol pump price increases. Nobody bothers to tell us what they sell these same products in Kuwait Libya, Qatar or Brunei. These are some of our fellow OPEC countries.

See previous post on the matter

casualobserver:
You are not Saudi Arabia or Libya you are a poor country that happens to have Oil.

Saudi produces 9m barrels a day, its population is 34m

Libya produces 1.1m barrels a day, its population is 7m

Nigeria currently produces 1.4m barrels a day its population is 220m and counting!

Yet you want the same subsidies? It is easier to provide subsidies to 7m or 34 m people than it is to provide subsidies to 220m! Your population is 7x Saudi but your income is only 1/10th and you are talking of subsidies? Start by having less children, maybe the little we have can go round.

We know western education does not encourage you to think and it’ is only designed to create employees but try aand help yourselves sometimes (since the jobs don’t exist anyway) by thinking every now and again.

Your mates are Cameroun, Benin and Niger and Ghana. It is only population that makes us look like a big country simple because 200m poor people will steal eat. So if you want to compare subsidies or price of petrol compare yourself with these countries.

When you give examples, situate it in the proper context.

The children of 2 men with the same salary will not have the same standard of living if one has 1 wife and 2 children and the other has 5 wives and 40 children.

So continue having children like rabbits and comparing yourselves to the man with few children.

emkz:
No one is an empty skull. The media and the PDP underrated Okpebholo.

While Arise News was busy using their platforms and their anchors were using twitter to bully Okpebholo to come to their studio for interrogation, Okpebholo was campaigning vigorously to the grassroots. So let us ask this question:

How does media appearances influence the choice of voters?

The 2023 presidential elections demonstrated that the candidate who made the most media appearances came 3rd. Okpebholo's refusal to attend Arise News interview and still won is a demonstration that the propaganda asking blackmailing Okpebholo to come to their studios was bunkum.

Arise News is not relevant to influence political decisions of voters.

Below is my post from August 27th. The problem with the educated Nigerians in the cities is
1) we don’t understand that we are a minority
2) the majority do not think like us, nor do they have the same needs and aspirations. But we always arrogantly assume the majority must think like we think and vote like we do…why? What does a man in the village who farms his own food and whose major focus is kerosene and borehole have in common with the man in the city who consumes foreign rice and other imported items?
3) APC win elections because they understand democracy is about the majority not the minority.
4) there is nowhere where democracy guarantees you the best candidate (whatever that means). All democracy is supposed to guarantee is the will of the people.

casualobserver:
I have no interest in the Edo election. I am only commenting because I saw the debate about literate and illiterate candidates.

This is my take:

One of the big mistakes we make or things we forget is that the educated and well travelled so to speak are a minority of the population. Unlike in the 60s to the 80s, many have no connection with the grassroots. Unlike my father who grew up in the village for instance I have not been to my village in decades except for 1 or 2 burials. If I were to go there today I don’t know anyone there.

The vast majority of the electorate who vote and determine the outcomes of elections are these so called illiterates. That is why even in a city like Lagos a man like MC Oluomo is a force…talk less the hinterland.

The downside to elections in an underdeveloped country like Nigeria is that winning is not about how good you are but your ability to connect with the electorate. This is why we throw up some shocking winners of elections and we wonder how is this man a governor or senator etc.

I can boldly say that in Nigeria it is the semi-literates and those who are in touch with the illiterates that win elections. If you see a well educated man win an election in Nigeria, I can almost guarantee you that he won because he was backed by someone who is in touch with the illiterates not on his own merit.

So never dismiss a candidate because he is an illiterate or refuses to debate. Real politicians know debates are for the educated who don’t determine outcomes of elections.


We need to disavow ourselves of this literate/illiterate candidate debate and understand the true nature of the electorate that determine our collective futures. We the 10% are the ones who care about debates but we don’t determine elections. Those who win elections are those who have people who can speak to them in the language they understand….the language of the illiterate.

Nigerian politics 101: The illiterates are the delegates at the primaries and the majority at the elections. It is misplaced arrogance to think our worldly views matter in elections.

Nigeria has not produced 20m graduates in its entire history so even if all were alive which is not the case, at best in a population of 200m only 10% are graduates.

Innobee99:
INEC the calculator has done it again

INEC did not do anything! opposition fluffed their lines again!

olaiya2007:
Which result... Inec don declare result?

Everybody get situation room, when you know you’ve lost next thing is to blame INEC.

Realtruth2023:
Are we not seeing the consequences of the stupidity of the 80% that voted in Nigeria for now.
Instead of you to advocate for a change in our electoral system, you are here still making excuses for the same people who would love to set this country on fire for political gains.
People like you are the problem of this country, instead of speaking the truth to power, you make excuses for them.

You are the ones that need to go to your villages and start to get more involved and influence in local affairs. Join parties and get involved in the primaries that produce the candidates. Join the civil service and be the ones watching over and implementing the affairs of state. The vacuum you left by being in the city speaking English is what the Mondays of this world, the corrupt civil servants, the political thugs etc have filled. And please stop all this nonsense City boy educated mor0n type talk of changing constitution. Nobody is going to enact a law that disadvantages him. If you want to change the system you have to participate in the process that produces the candidates in all parties. Not wait until they say these are the candidates and think you are doing your civic duty by voting. By that time it is often too late and your vote is inconsequential because the choice is between bad and worse.

You go to school, live in the city, don’t go home, become successful have never been involved in politics, then one day you say you want to be governor like Akpata and then you realize you have to go home to become governor it is then the people will tell you they don’t know you! It is the dullard that stayed or kept in touch with the village that the people know. So you either do not get elected or you are at the mercy and therefore a stooge to a Godfather who is in touch with the people.

Realtruth2023:
In all what you have just said, you have not even preferred any solution to this. That is my point that you have deliberately avoided.
That is why I said people like you are the problem of thos country.

Do I have to spell it out to you?

In my days our educated parents, were from the villages, were in touch with the villagers, the villagers knew them and respected them, they came home regularly so we’re in touch with the people, so influenced the villagers. Also they were in the political parties, they were delegates, they were in the civil service. So although they were even a smaller minority than the educated of today, they influenced the direction of the country because they (the educated ones) were i ones piloting all the affairs of the country. So when you hear that things worked in the 60s-80s that is why.

Realtruth2023:
Are we not seeing the consequences of the stupidity of the 80% that voted in Nigeria for now.
Instead of you to advocate for a change in our electoral system, you are here still making excuses for the same people who would love to set this country on fire for political gains.
People like you are the problem of this country, instead of speaking the truth to power, you make excuses for them.

You clearly still do not get it. This is the arrogance we talk about. You are not in tune with the 80% that is why you do not understand why they vote the way they vote .

Why is it with all our education some of us cannot think and understand even when we spell it out to them? A farmer in the village does not have the same aspirations as you. What is good government to a farmer in a remote village is not the same as what constitutes good government to someone in the city with a degree. Get that into your so called educated but clearly thick skulls. It is this arrogance of the educated that is leading to the prospect of a Monday whatever his name is as governor of a state like Edo!

You are educated, you are a minority, your fate is in the hands of a majority who do not share your aspirations and you stay in the city speaking English, do not participate in the process that produces the candidates, have no influence over these “ignorant” majority and then complain every election when they throw up useless leaders. Who are the stoooopod ones in this scenario? The ignorant majority or the educated minority who leave their fate to the ignorant?

As an educated person you have a theoretical higher potential or ceiling for achievement than they do, it is your hopes that are dashed not theirs. A lot of them are content with boreholes, farm implements, fertilizer etc. To them that shows a government that is working.

PussyOdour:




If Edo people foolishly allows APC to hijack their state, then sorry for them. Any Party can win Edo, but let it not be Apc for crying out loud.

With the suffering the evil terrorist APC have subdued Nigerians to, them winning a state like a Edo of all states is a big slap to all Edo people.

Why will APC even have one vote in any election conducted with all their evil agendas and atrocities they've committed? God! There's no hope in sight? If APC wins Edo state of all states, then obviously Tinubu is winning flawlessly in the next election. Nigeria is cursed with fóolish citizens not just leaders.

The problem with the opposition in Nigeria is they are too emotional and sentimental. They don’t strategize and when they lose they blame INEC.

For all the criticism you can label at APC they are a strategic party when it comes to elections.

Arise crew were making noise about debate, APC told you their voters don’t care about debates, you didn’t listen. Same thing with the presidential election. Because they have done their homework and know the voters and I keep saying it that all the English speaking people that are the Arise audience are less than 20% of the population and of that 20%, they are the ones less likely to stand in the sun or rain to vote. The English speaking portion of the Nigerian electorate don’t matter in the grand scheme of things when it comes to elections. The quicker we understand this the better for the opposition.

2: The opposition candidates were chosen in a snub to the zoning arrangement. You can’t disenfranchise a senatorial zone for 35 yrs

3: elections are about who can get the most votes, not who can speak English or who has the best ideas. Democracy is one man one vote. What is important to you does not have to be important to others. I said this in a previous post. The educated in Nigeria assume the arrogance of thinking that what matters to them matters to the farmer, the driver, the man in the village. That’s why they lose elections over and over again. The farmer in auchi does not care about your statistics, your GDP, your English grammar. All that stuff only appeals to the educated populace that are mostly based in the cities and tend not to come out to vote! And even when they do they are an inconsequential minority! For example most of the educated people from Edo do not live in Edi and are not registered to vote in Edo. I have said it many times here that no matter how many times you give PDP and it’s breakaway factions like Obi the expo for winning elections they will still mess up because they are born out of rigging. They’ve not had to use their brains to win elections. The more difficult it is to rig an election the worse the fate of PDP and its breakaway groups have been. Since the introduction of card reader and subsequent improvements to our electoral system , PDP has been imploding as a party. When I say PDP I mean the opposition both LP, NNPP and PDP because they are all fundamentally PDP in DNA.

4. You just lost a presidential election despite collectively having 6m more votes than APC and what do they do? They go and split votes again by choosing candidates from the same zone at a time when zoning is a sore topic?

So stop blaming APC or INEC for the strategic blunders and failures of the opposition. Like you said Aapc has no business winning Edo if they do given the state of things just like APC had no business winning the presidency in 2023….but they did because the opposition are arrogant and incompetent!!!

LP is a joke party

Hundeyin has entered one chance. The way things are going, he will end up seeking assylum in North Korea.

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid I do not agree or trust your claims.

That’s fine. When I make an assertion I back it up. You can do better than just say you don’t agree. Prove it, show how I can rig and not leave evidence.