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MuttleyLaff:
Historical figures in the Bible presented as fact that each and very day are becoming verifiable

C'mon doc, intuition and innate capability or sense now
(i.e. it's ''abinibi'', not mere or just ability)

Are you that averse to the Bible

The DaVinci Code incoporated so many historical figures, that still doesn't change the fact that it's a work of fiction.
I'm not averse to the Bible. What I'm averse to is quoting a work of fiction to me as fact

engineerboat:
Like i told you ealier on, i will not get engage im abuse with you because of your mindset and choice of language.

But be rest assure.

You read the account in genesis, where was it mentioned that Fishes where put into the ark.

Is the world then like ours today.

Are you telling me we have as many population as then this day.

Are you saying the continent is as many as the 7 as we have today.

Baba, the flood happened 6000 years ago, so yeah, there was as many as 7 continents then.
Slightly lower population too.

MuttleyLaff:
But where there is no faith it is impossible truly to please God
for the man who draws near to God must believe that there is a God
and that God proves Himself a rewarder of those who earnestly try to find Him
- Hebrews 11:6

Reiterating verses such as Isaiah 44:24, Isaiah 45:5 and Isaiah 45:18 earlier mentioned on page 0
and John 14:6 recently mentioned on this page,
shows God making irrefutable self declarative statements about the Godhead, Godship and/or Godhood being the one true God

Sincerity and having a right useful purpose to know the one true God, goes a long way in giving anyone this conviction

¹⁹What can be known about God is clear to them because God has made it clear to them
(i.e. people know the truth about God because God has made it obvious to them)
²⁰For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky.
Through everything God made, they can clearly see His invisible qualities
--His eternal power and His eternal Godhead (i.e. divine nature)
So they have no excuse for not knowing God
- Roman 1:19-20

No, not because a work of fiction or any other for that matter, told me so.
You however can say, suprarational knowledge ''told me'' so

By the way, if anyone is told there is one true God,
then this ought to reinforce the ''a one and true God'' fact that you would have already been aware of
(i.e. knowledge of the existence of a one and true God emanating from intuition and innate capability or sense)


And this is the way to have eternal life
- to know you God, the only true God,
and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth
- John 17:3

After the grim reaper visit and when you cross that bridge, you'll eventually discover that, God is, as real as the god of Nairaland
however will also find out that Odin and Thor are truly tales from Greek mythology, believed by many but actually arent true

That is what I've been saying about the Bible.
Tales from Jewish Mythology, plagiarized from older civilization, throw in a few historical figures and present it as fact.
The Bible is as real as The DaVinci Code by Dan Brown.
Can you explain the suprarational knowledge to me?
Please don't quote the Bible

Lexusgs430:
I think you need to read updated medical journals....... Would send you some journals, when I have the time to research........

Which one? The Lancet? New England Journal of Medicine? American College of Obsterics?

Lexusgs430:
Big Big grammar for low sperm count .......

That means that for a woman to get pregnant, the sperm count should be in millions.
For the very few studies that were able to isolate sperm cells in "pre cum", the sperm count was in in the hundreds, so it is medically impossible to get pregnant from "pre cum"

Lexusgs430:
So can you get pregnant from pre-ejaculatory fluid (pre-cum)? Well...... as this fluid does not contain sperm it can't by itself cause a pregnancy. However as the purpose of this fluid is to flush out the penis it will bring any sperm left in the penis from the last ejaculation to the tip of the penis. If this happens that small amount of sperm could cause a pregnancy.

Shey you read my post and saw all the characteristics of the sperm cells found in "pre cum"?
Are you familiar with the term oligospermia and azoospermia?

Like I said, the guy is a troll, all huff and puff, no substance.
Later he will be shouting intelligence up and down.

johnydon22:
hahahahahahaha we are getting somewhere

i dont think there is God so just like a unicorn god can be said to be nothing more than a concept. why not you that argues for God define God and we will take on that from the principle of your definition.

I'm waiting for him with that definition too.

Blogthug:
whether he interferes or not it's not relevant here

Your definition of a god is not complete.
My default position was that it interferes, you pointed that out as a strawman.
You gotta choose one bro. Your definition of god can either interfere or doesn't interfere, it can't sit on the fence.

felixomor:
U have started talking hogwash again?

When intelligent people are talking, keep quiet and learn.
Dr. Sleeping brain.

Blogthug:
listen, I don't have time for your strawman, this argument is about Theism Vs Atheism not atheism Vs a particular religion, stay focused. God is defined as the creator of the universe and origin of life, prove God doesn't exist

So, your definition of god is the creator of the universe and the origin of life that doesn't interfere in the affairs of his creation?

Blogthug:
prove it!

Because the God described in all holy book is all powerful, all knowing and always present and yet can't heal his children when they call on him despite checking all the items on the list.
That proves that he doesn't exist.

johnydon22:
read this mesh of nonsense one more time, slowly... and please bring your argument, this thread is already on the second page yet not a single argument from you.

That is what this thread will be filled with.
I've been on his thread before. The guy is a troll.

Blogthug:
now let's debate, God exists!

God doesn't exist.

Blogthug:
u are diverting my attention from the purpose of the post, it's called a Red herring

Ooooh.
What happened to the great and intelligent Blogthug?
Can't answer just a simple question?
And you'll be here shouting intelligence up and down.

Blogthug:
naa u thought u did but u only ended up presupposing something else that hasn't been proven to not be a figment of your imagination, u are not that intelligent yet, unlike Seun that admitted it was impossible , and he was right , I wonder how he is still an Atheist with all that intelligence smh

What proof is more than a DNA test in a parental conflict?
Pray, do tell.

I remember Blogthug.
Who asked if anyone could prove that their mum is not a figment of their imagination, I provided it and he gave one very impish reply.
The guy is a troll. He won't abide by his own rules.

Why can't God heal diseases?
Yahweh, Allah and Jesus all healed the sick in the books, why can't he do it in our time?

Ermacc:
what i don't is why you selectively biased as to what you choose to believe regarding what bible scholars say. You claimed Noah's ark happened few thousand years ago in your previous post just to support your conclusion, and now you claim bible scholar said that without proof. And funny enough, you don't even believe in the event of Noah Ark. Thats my problem. You select only the part of the fairytale that supports your claim

I mentioned the age of the earth as per Bible scholars to continue this discussion with you.
Whether I believe in it or not is irrelevant.
So, now, tell me what I don't get?

GodsMopol:
This just crossed my mind, how would they give an answer when they don't know the Bible, deep

They know the Bible, they point out the absurdities in the Bible.
It's only a person that knows the Bible that would be able to point out the absurdities.

Ermacc:
and who told you the continental drifting occured millions of years ago and Noah's ark happend few thousand years ago? Just answer this and i'l tell you what I dont get.

Geology is a science that can be measured and verified.
Geologists said so.
Bible scholars say that the earth is at least 6 thousand years old with no proof to back up their claims.
So, I'm listening.

Ermacc:
that explains how all animals were in the same location and with uniform temperature levels, and maybe after the continents were pieced, some animals were faced with extreme temperature levels and guess what? They adapted to it. This should suit my atheist friends.

The continental drifting happened millions of years ago, Noah's ark happened a few thousand years ago after the continental drifting making the story implausible.
What don't you get?

Are you throwing a "Hail Mary"?

Ermacc:
As an atheist that you are, i'm sure you are of the opinion that our existence is as a result of big bang and evolution. Now, since evolution traced the existence of man to africa, how did early man cross the oceans and get to australia? If you can answer that question, apply the same theory for the kangaroos. But if you are part of the "i dont know how we got here school", then you dont also need to know about how the koalas got to the middle east.

I'm sure you're familiar with the concept of super continents.
It basically means that all the continents were joined together before gradual continental drifting separated the continents.
That should explain how Africans settled in Australia. This was theorized to have happened millions of years ago.
This however doesn't explain how penguins moved from Antarctica to the Middle East, since it is said to have happened about 6000 years ago.

MuttleyLaff:
FSM is imaginary alright
whether the imaginary FSM and/or any other god elsewhere
Yahweh, the God in the Bible is exalted far above all other gods,

What makes you so sure that he's the one true God?
Because a work of fiction told you so?
What if you die and at the pearly Gates, you discover that Odin is the one true god and Thor is his begotten son?

MuttleyLaff:
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State an unashamed frank, open and unreserved statement about creation
made by the FSM or Zeus that is/are on a par with any declaration or all statements God has made

If by now, you've not recognized that FSM is a humorous play on the Abrahamic religions, then, you know now.
FSM, The Bible, The Koran, they are all works of fiction.

MuttleyLaff:
Would you rather I quote a FSM or Zeus book?

By all means.

Religious people are always quick to speak against gambling, meanwhile, they are the biggest gamblers of all time.
Playing with an odd of 5000/1 that the religion you picked is the true one.

Richirich713:
Great theory, too bad no historian buys this shitt...

These historians you listed up there were mostly affected by observational bias or expectational bias in that they were mostly Christians.
There has been 3 large scale "expeditions" to prove the existence of Jesus and they all came back with 3 different profiles/result.
The scholars don't even agree on what Jesus did, how long he lived for and things like that.
The only things that they agree on is that Jesus was crucified and he was baptized by John based on the criteria of embarrassment.
Which is a shitty thing to base the existence of someone on.
Josephus, Tacitus and Pliny the young who wrote the records these scholars based their work on wrote it some 30-100 years after Jesus supposedly died meaning that they relied on word of mouth and you know how reliable a word of mouth account is.
Even Josephus' account has been called a fraud by a lot of scholars.

Numerous studies have consistently showed that there are no sperm cells "pre cum", it was only found in situations where the individual didn't urinate after ejaculation.
However, a small group of studies were able to identify very very few sperm cells in "pre cum" and they where found to be immotile or badly deformed.
So, it's safe to say that "pre cum" can't get anybody pregnant, at least, it hasn't been documented in Medical journals.