Funnyman:
He is right 100%. Black South Africans wished they were Nigerians. You only need to visit South Africa and see things for your self. I am currently doing a project on South Africa, I will post on nairaland when I am done.

Funnyman:
He is right 100%. Black South Africans wished they were Nigerians. You only need to visit South Africa and see things for your self. I am currently doing a project on South Africa, I will post on nairaland when I am done.

jteku:
After robbing a bullion van in South Africa
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bf2zYjgH467/

Frumentum:


You're still confusing the issues. Again to use a personal example: I automatically got UK citizenship because of my father and Portuguese from my mother. So, the SA Citizenship Act doesn't apply as I didn't apply for other citizenship, after turning 18.
I claimed - not applied for - citizenship which was automatically conferred on me by UK and Portuguese law whether I took it up or not, at whatever time.
Simply, the sections you quoted impact Saffers over the age of 18 who've only ever held SA citizenship and now want to apply for other, whilst retaining SA. Mostly emigrating Afrikaners and Black (African, Asian and Coloured) Saffers who want to retain SA citizenship - the groups least likely to have automatic rights to other citizenship.

And even then, the SA govt cannot strip people of SA citizenship simply because they apply for other citizenship. And so we circle back to my argument that the regulations on what passport to exit and enter RSA were driven by paranoid securocrats who came very close to co-opting Home Affairs to their control agenda.

I shall refrain from the so-called land debate.

Samusu:
Naija

Frumentum:


I disagree with Patches' post, but let's stick to facts. The 2 laws you've cited don't exist.
You might be confusing it with the regulation that states that you have to use your SA passport to fly out and in, otherwise your foreign passport will be treated as if you're on tourist visa even though you're a citizen. For example: before I could fly to Europe on my UK and Portuguese passport - to avoid visas applications and fees; go on to US on same, and then fly home on my SA passport.
It's changed nothing for me if going to Europe - SA passport to exit, present SA and Euro passport on arrival, and same process in reverse.
Unnecessary red tape enacted during a paranoid presidency. Anyway, there's a thread for all this, let's stop derailing this thread.

Frumentum:


I disagree with Patches' post, but let's stick to facts. The 2 laws you've cited don't exist.
You might be confusing it with the regulation that states that you have to use your SA passport to fly out and in, otherwise your foreign passport will be treated as if you're on tourist visa even though you're a citizen. For example: before I could fly to Europe on my UK and Portuguese passport - to avoid visas applications and fees; go on to US on same, and then fly home on my SA passport.
It's changed nothing for me if going to Europe - SA passport to exit, present SA and Euro passport on arrival, and same process in reverse.
Unnecessary red tape enacted during a paranoid presidency. Anyway, there's a thread for all this, let's stop derailing this thread.

Henry240:
Land has to be re-distributed in South-Africa. The policy where only a minority white farmers own upwards of 80% of the land is un-acceptable. White South-Africans need to stop panicking anytime the issue of land comes up, instead a workable solution should be under-taken through sincere dialogue.

You can sell the farm or part of it, and still lease it from who ever purchases the land for your farming business.

patches689:


lol, people are so happy that Zuma is gone... yet they dont see the writing on the wall.

Sure, Zuma stole from us... but Cyril is going to destroy us. Mark my words.

SA's rainfall is predicted to drop by 40% over the next 25 years. Cyril (either by choice, or because of the party) is going to push forward with expropriation without compensation. 90% of previously transferred farms have failed (completely). Expropriation will also wipe about 133 billion of Rand's of assets from the banking sector (commercial farmers owe huge amounts to the banks) so there wont be any capital left to re-invest in Agriculture. Add it up.

The Zimbabwe analogy is a fallacy, what is coming our way is worse - inconceivably worse. Zimbabwe is a rural country, Zimbabwe has a prosperous neighbor to the South. When their farming sector went belly-up and food scarcity hit, their urban population could simply return to the country side for a subsistence life-style, or head South to RSA. We dont have those options - we are an urbanized country with poor neighbors - you are going to have starving and unemployed masses in the cities, many of which will also be facing water scarcity. Its going to get fvcking nasty fvcking quickly.

Hell, and Im not even going to mention the new mining charter - which seems to want to recreate the same Apartheid sanctions that killed the mining sector (and brought the NP to the negotiation chamber), or the new Minimum Wage act (Treasury estimates it will cause potential job losses* for 45% of primary educated labour, 43% of agricultural labour, 52% of private households, about 40% of all full-time workers, 45% of full-time clothing workers, 82% of full-time workers in the agricultural sector, 87% of full-time domestic workers).

To be honest, the party is over. Im going to stay over-seas for the next decade or so - busy working on getting residency in the US atm. Ill wait it out, and work myself to death in a Corporate hell-scape. But when all the new farms have failed, sail in with a pocket-full of USD and buy a nice big slice of land on the cheap. Use that land to leverage a loan from the bank and then buy up another big slice of land. Then sit on it and wait for the sector to recover and sell it off for a nice profit. Ironically, my great grandfather made a small fortune doing the exact same thing in the aftermath of the Boer war.

Its very risky, but the deep irony of a White fella turning this racist land redistribution strategy into a way to generate a tidy sum of money, while the "beneficiaries" of the redistribution get plunged into generations of suffering is just too juicy to resist. There are safer investments, but fvck me, nothing gets me going like a good dose of JUSTICE.


*that % of jobs will now be "at risk", ie: potentially no longer economically viable.

patches689:


lol, people are so happy that Zuma is gone... yet they dont see the writing on the wall.

Sure, Zuma stole from us... but Cyril is going to destroy us. Mark my words.

SA's rainfall is predicted to drop by 40% over the next 25 years. Cyril (either by choice, or because of the party) is going to push forward with expropriation without compensation. 90% of previously transferred farms have failed (completely). Expropriation will also wipe about 133 billion of Rand's of assets from the banking sector (commercial farmers owe huge amounts to the banks) so there wont be any capital left to re-invest in Agriculture. Add it up.

The Zimbabwe analogy is a fallacy, what is coming our way is worse - inconceivably worse. Zimbabwe is a rural country, Zimbabwe has a prosperous neighbor to the South. When their farming sector went belly-up and food scarcity hit, their urban population could simply return to the country side for a subsistence life-style, or head South to RSA. We dont have those options - we are an urbanized country with poor neighbors - you are going to have starving and unemployed masses in the cities, many of which will also be facing water scarcity. Its going to get fvcking nasty fvcking quickly.

Hell, and Im not even going to mention the new mining charter - which seems to want to recreate the same Apartheid sanctions that killed the mining sector (and brought the NP to the negotiation chamber), or the new Minimum Wage act (Treasury estimates it will cause potential job losses* for 45% of primary educated labour, 43% of agricultural labour, 52% of private households, about 40% of all full-time workers, 45% of full-time clothing workers, 82% of full-time workers in the agricultural sector, 87% of full-time domestic workers).

To be honest, the party is over. Im going to stay over-seas for the next decade or so - busy working on getting residency in the US atm. Ill wait it out, and work myself to death in a Corporate hell-scape. But when all the new farms have failed, sail in with a pocket-full of USD and buy a nice big slice of land on the cheap. Use that land to leverage a loan from the bank and then buy up another big slice of land. Then sit on it and wait for the sector to recover and sell it off for a nice profit. Ironically, my great grandfather made a small fortune doing the exact same thing in the aftermath of the Boer war.

Its very risky, but the deep irony of a White fella turning this racist land redistribution strategy into a way to generate a tidy sum of money, while the "beneficiaries" of the redistribution get plunged into generations of suffering is just too juicy to resist. There are safer investments, but fvck me, nothing gets me going like a good dose of JUSTICE.


*that % of jobs will now be "at risk", ie: potentially no longer economically viable.

abiodunalasa:

Lol

Pls sir ensure to enlist me in such marvelous Brigade... It will be my honor

CaptainStephen:
I am currently mobilising a Brigade with every equipment they will need from personal weapons, Support weapons, Artillery, Armour and even Air support too.
No need for training since you can get everything online, I will ensure free WiFi too.

frumentius:
Turkish incompetence continues unabated. Tanks, T129 chopper and now the Bayraktar UAV. That thing flies at 20 000 feet, so how did the Kurds shoot it down?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcoio1u49UA

Fidha254:
and we are building a pipeline through the same insecure region, a pipeline built by Britain's Tullow oil and France' Total, also together with a transport infrastructure project worth $26B including one of the largest sea ports in the eastern seaboard of africa which uncle sam is interested in LPG plant and some port births http://m.mgafrica.com/article/2015-07-26-kenya-us-firms-in-talks-on-mega-26-billion-lamu-port-southern-sudan-ethiopia-deal All these project which are already at different stages of progress will all need the government to first fully secure the border b4 any of these projects are completed, and with these projects raising the profile of these previously marginalised areas means more security to secure this new logistical corridor which in turn means more security to the people. Anyways, don't believe everything you see on media, despite all the politics with an election that lasted 6months, terrorism,insecurity, travel warnings by US,UK,Australia....we still manage to recover the tourism industry by earning $1.2B from 1.4 million tourists visiting the country...the visitors were surprised to not see what was projected in the western media as Kenya...

newafricaken254:
off topic :The exploration and appraisal campaign in Kenya has confirmed the presence of substantial oil resources in the South Lokichar Basin…East Africa is on the verge of becoming a major oil exporting region.”

BruncleZuma:
Unrelated: Could China be arming their ships with railguns? Tdayof can you verify this?...

[img]https://tctechcrunch2011.files./2018/02/du8_uuovqaau-5p.jpg[/img]
https://techcrunch.com/2018/02/02/sure-looks-like-china-has-a-ship-mounted-railgun/

kikuyu1:


G-A-S-S-S-P-P!? Did you just ask that question,for real!? There's a very well known underlying violence in homo behaviour that many say is part of the pathology. That's why most serial killers are homos:

http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/violence-and-homosexuality/

This is why world wide all groups with a history of interpersonal violence have much higher rates of homoism than normal. Look at the Turks,Arabs,Greeks,Romans,Mughals or the Brits. Btw,why was Terre'blanche found dead with his pants down? The Pathans are famous for long running feuds and murder and yet have are notorious boy lovers.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/28/afghan-men-struggle-sexual-identity-study-finds.html

IIRC Kenyans serving with the USMC in Afghanistan flocked the largest forum at the time,mashada saying how often they found men abed with boys when they busted in homes during night time raids. Look up bachi baaz,goddammit! I know Saffas are super liberal oozing with love for all Gods kids;but trust me;homos shouldn't be within walking distance of any unit. My dude,what if he's interrogating some enemy and is overcome by rectal urges? Must I draw a picture?

newafricaken254:
SouthAfrica Police Service paid company Forensic Data Analysts (FDA) R52million for 169 torches - R300'000 each (US$21,147)
Media reports today have revealed that on the last day of the 2015/16 financial year, the South African Police Service (SAPS) paid Forensic Data Analysts (FDA) over R52 million for a contract for 169 torches.

This amounts to an astonishingly exorbitant R300 000 per torch.

The invoice for the contract was paid for by the section in which former Acting National Police Commissioner General Khomotso Phahlane’s wife works. FDA is owned by a businessman that has been implicated in potentially corrupt transactions with Phahlane through the provision of luxury vehicles to him and his wife.

The DA will therefore write to the Secretary of Police, Mr Alvin Rapea, to request a specific investigation and analysis project of the SAPS expenditure over the last 5 financial years by the Civilian Secretariat, as per section 6(1)(b) of the Civilian Secretariat, in order to closely scrutinise potentially irrational or wasteful large contracts.

The reports also state that the Independent Police Investigative Directorate (IPID) is investigating other suspicious transactions between the SAPS and FDA.

SAPS annual reports always show that the department’s budget is fully spent yet police stations are always under-staffed and under-resourced. Stations are often told that there is not enough money when they ask for additional vehicles and personnel up the chain of command.

The DA have always suspected and can only conclude that the SAPS budget continues to be misspent due to skewed priorities and irrational procurement in supply chain management. This revelation sadly sheds light on that seemingly being the case. LINK https://www.da.org.za/2017/11/da-requests-investigation-exorbitant-saps-expenditure/

tdayof:


Man, that's the Senegalese flag.

Jkay187:


You are truly pathetic and it looks like you totally have no argument. I can't turn your very argument around and ask you why the A400M uses SA made fuselage components too.

This is stupid argument from a person like you.

malikahmed91279:

Here's my claim

jakeporeshenko:
All you Southafricans do these days is bitch and whine about imperfections in the pictures posted by other thread members meanwhile your military isn’t exactly top notch !
maybe consider making your own “perfect” thread.

For Bleep sakes why are you complaining about rust and the size of a tactical vest ?

The point of having people from different nations post here is to improve diversity not get this one sided criticism that never seems to end.

Why can’t we all seat back and enjoy the posts ?

Algerian1:


They have air refueling capacity , they can use Sudan bases or libyan skies and nigeria neighbours skies are no mans land ( cameroun , south tchad , center africa , niger ) no good radars capacity , no air defense , no jets to stop them , they can refuel in many close skies to nigeria , no one will see them ( maybe only french radars in this countries ) , with their AWACS they can get a safe control of the skies temporarily . and refuel over cameroun or south niger or republic center africa

Egyptian air force with their Rafale, F16 , AWACS , can strike easily in 48h all your major air foce bases , all your navy bases destroy all your Navy and for economy if they strike oil gas fields and facilities , here Nigeria will have a big problem not only to sustain a war but to maintain its economy .

Of course if this unlikely scenario happens it would only be limited to aerial strikes, with air superiority for Egypt , given the distance no ground attack is possible without hudge loses



thats why I find it strange that a big country like nigeria has no modern Air defense capacity ,

lionel4power:
$600 million USD for 12 propeller driven aircraft


D.A.M.N.A.T.I.O.N.

What are they offering for goodness sake to warrant such daylight robbery

Are they going to build new hangers?
Are they going to give us production license?
Are they going to supply us 1000 PGMs?
Are they going to base their technical staff here in Nigeria?
how many tonnage of spares would twelve aircraft need In its whole operational life cycle?
or what capabilities does the Tucano have that other aircraft doesn't have?
what sophisticated gadgetry does it bring?
or what sleek aerial maneover does it do that other aircraft cant?

With that amount alone any country can design and build COIN aircraft from scratch, Nigeria included.

For that amount we'll require electronic and visual stealth capabilities while being able to launch ten ballistic nuclear cruise missiles plus it must be hypersonic and should be able to tranverse space and bend time. Since we are the first country to buy turboprop aircraft.

R.U.B.B.I.S.H.

kabe1:


This is Nairaland.com, a Nigerian forum.

kabe1:

Don't be always too quick to show your stupidity.

Henry240:

Happy Birthday, FCMB man, more deposits to your accounts.

lionel4power:
African. missiles