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mikeansy:
Says who?

Who was St Valentines girl friend?

Don't confuse your perception with tradition!

Well, help your ignorance and Google it or wiki and then get back to me.

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Tallesty1:
So you actually believed this sourceless story? SMH

Go check out the Wall Street Journal for the story. Don't be lazy!

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Kennywills7:
Thats not a propaganda film wake up
Fayose death avert is condemnable, i thought u will mention d audio recording, because i knw u believe its genuine, wot is d Apc waiting for let dem go to court to prove it
I know Apc need change, yes they need it and dat change will stop dem from spreading of lies & propagandas

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#Gej till 2019
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On the tape matter, the minister for police affairs has already admitted that the meeting took place, but it wasn't about rigging. The gang of thieves haven't even coordinated their lies. The Obanikoro court case will provide much amusement soon.

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And this is the man many cling to, a man assessed in his various positions as unintelligent, uninspiring and ineffective. God will help Nigeria.

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I swear the pdp media people are just a bunch of monkeys. Cant they give this president some sensible talking points that don't make him sound like a fo0l? Or is the man beyond advising?

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Kennywills7:
Believe it or not APC now control most media houses in dis country, i wonder how much they were paid each!

Anyway Gej till 2019

So it was APC media that published Fayoses death advert, abi, or ran the propaganda film against Buhari? #stupidasmud

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If our military always comes up with such stupid stories it is no wonder they are losing the trust and confidence of the country.

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Gabbysky:
Shallow minded fellow.
No wonder they concluded that apc is made up of "MAD MEN"

You may not understand the significance, but I believe the sacrifice of our fallen soldiers should be what is honoured first. They have given the ultimate sacrifice for us all, and there is a day set aside by tradition for this. However concerning boko haram we do not see our fallen soldiers being given what I would consider appropriate ceremonial funerals?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armed_Forces_Day#Nigeria

In Nigeria, Armed Forces Day, also known as Remembrance Day, is celebrated on 15 January. It was formerly celebrated on 11 November of every year to coincide with the Remembrance Day (Poppy Day) for the World War II veterans in the British Commonwealth of Nations. But it was changed to 15 January in Nigeria in commemoration of the surrender of Biafran troops to the Federal troops on 15 January 1970, thus concluding the Nigerian Civil War that sought to tear apart the unity of Nigeria. [15]

mikeansy:
Its a day of love and the President has rightfully decided to show love to the family of fallen heroes

Valentine's day is associated with romantic love among the living. So a widow should feel happy seeing lovers entertaining each other, exchanging gifts etc knowing full well that she is now alone without her love, and probably shouldering the burden of raising a family by herself? But I guess a dinner makes up for that. Ok.

I'm not sure about this, valentines day has become the day to remember the dead? What happened to Rememberance day in November? Seems very tasteless to me.

How many times will people post this fake letter. FYI the Shagari family has denied it, and no respectable newspaper has carried it,for obvious reasons. Even Doyin Okupe has not embarrassed himself by acknowledging it. #pdplies #fail

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So why did Jonathan orchestrate the postponement of the election?

Abati, I really pity you...

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OLADD:
1. Every budget is tailored towards the pressing needs of any economy and I am sure you are aware of that. Instead of abating you will agree that the increasing demands of our security situation necessitates a large chunk of the capital expenditure been reallocated to Security head. What this means in plain terms is that other expense heads(capital or recurrent) will have to bear the brunt.
2. Let's be sincere with ourselves, our inability to completely defeat Boko haram is never down to dearth of amunition but due to political interference by powers-that-be in the north and thier glutonous counterparts in the south who wants power by all means. That's the fact.

Please provide evidence for your assertion in point 2.
You may also refer to this thread on the army
https://www.nairaland.com/2145542/nigerian-soldier-using-old-tanks

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Ngwakwe:
Don't change the subject by obfuscating facts.

Debate on the facts.

Lolz, really?

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ozoigbondu:
The fact that the media gives this grumpy old politically irrelvant man time and space to rant on the air waves is baffling

He is irrelevant but Jonathan is sending party chairman and governors to beg him every other month? Does that confirm his cluelessness?

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Skoopy:
Change2015 and Tranquill, please this thread is not about you two. You two should stop the war of words.

Done.

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Gbawe:
Indeed. Very 'layered' and sublime submissions. Odimegwu speaks well and patriotically. The section quoted below, for example, succinctly relays the crux of the matter which is that good and exemplary leadership, that genuinely transform lives plus deliver positive changes citizens can see and feel, speaks for itself. Good and effective leadership does not need propaganda or the need to deploy desperate mudslinging.

My brother, I don't know how many people fail to realise this. The country is in a slump, too many unemployed, business is tight, and security has become another issue to worry about in addition to electricity and water. Jonathan has advertised his 'good works' to mind-numbing death, and yet the vast majority do not feel it. In fact they are angry that he does not seem to understand their situation. And yet he was the poor disadvantaged man that they freely voted for in 2011, both North and south, Christian and Muslim. I'm praying for a more frugal and sensitive government in Buhari, and a very tough anti-corruption regime. Enough is enough.

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For the doubting thomases...
http://www.ngex.com/business/public/Broadcast-by-President-Obasanjo-on-Nigerian-Railway-Modernization-and


Broadcast by
His Excellency, President Olusegun Obasanjo, GCFR
On Nigerian Railway Modernization and Expansion Programme
Abuja, August 9, 2006


Fellow compatriots

It is with gratitude to God and great joy that I address you today as we mark another milestone in our on-going efforts to rejuvenate and reposition our country for greatness and sustained development. We have resolutely embraced reforms in order to move away from a past that was characterized by fiscal recklessness, plan indiscipline, misplaced priorities, and general insensitivity to the plight of the Nigerian people.

I am pleased to note that our reforms, your sacrifices and commitment to purposeful change are now yielding results. On all sectors of the economy, we are witnessing rapid changes and these are being acknowledged by the international community especially by our development partners. While we give thanks to God and I specially commend all Nigerians, we cannot and must not rest on our oars until we get to our set goals and destinations.

One area in which we have invested a lot of time, energy and resources is infrastructural rehabilitation and development. It is difficult to believe that in the decade before 1999, not a single investment was made in the power sector. The railway was not an exception to this neglect and policy indifference. Hence, I am pleased and proud to inform you all today, that the government has come up with a very bold and comprehensive agenda for the re-development, modernization and expansion of our national railway transportation system to meet our socio-economic, political, cultural development and integration objectives.

Broadly speaking, transportation offers tremendous potentials and opportunities for activating, stimulating and integrating national economies and ensuring national interaction and unity. The role of the railway mode of transport in particular has been quite significant in this respect and is quite evident in international economic and social relations and even within nations such as Nigeria.

No nation has achieved holistic development in all its ramifications without a coherent, integrated, efficient and reliable transportation system. It is therefore important that we place our railway development in proper historical perspective in order to fully appreciate the importance of our new path and approach in our inter-modal and comprehensive transportation system planning and development.

This inter-modal system includes road, inland waterways, and air transportation. Our investments in these areas are coordinated to make a lasting impact through a holistic transportation system across the country. Though I have not included bicycles in the inter-modal list of transport systems, it must not be forgotten, if only for its physical exercise and therefore, health implications.

The development of railways in Nigeria, like in most African countries was the initiative of the Colonial Administration with the objectives of exercising full political control, penetrating the hinterland, and evacuating goods to the coast for export to develop and feed their industry.

Actual railway construction in Nigeria commenced in 1898 with a 32 km line of 1067mm gauge from Iddo (Lagos State) to Otta (Ogun State), which was further extended to Ibadan covering a total of 193 km in 1901. Railway construction continued incrementally in such manners between 1901–1910, Ibadan–Jebba (295 km); 1907–1911, Kano–Baro (562 km); 1909–1915, Jebba–Minna (252 km); 1914–1916, Port-Harcourt–Enugu (243 km); and 1922–1927, Kafanchan–Jos (179 km).

Unfortunately, in spite of the obvious benefits of railway transportation, further development was more or less stultified between 1927 and 1958- a period of thirty-one years. It was not until 1958 with the construction of Kafanchan to Bauchi line (238 km) that work resumed on the rail system. This was followed between 1961–1964 with the Bauchi-Maiduguri line (302km).

This brought the total rail route of the Nigerian Railway Network to 3505 km (and if sidings are included, to 4,332 km).

In addition to the network mentioned is the 277 km on-going standard gauge railway specifically built and being dedicated to the steel complexes of Ajaokuta, Delta (Warri) and Itakpe (Iron-Ore mine). This line that stretches from Itakpe through Ajaokuta to Warri is at 90% completion level and would be put into full operational use this year as a Concession line to the operators of the concessioned Ajaokuta Steel Plants.

The emergence of the Nigerian Government Railways in 1912 was paradoxical and challenging especially with the amalgamation of the Northern and Southern Protectorates in 1914. Railway development in Nigeria during this period brought in its wake great socio-cultural impact as seen in the movement of traders from different regions and ethnic background to commercial towns created by railway activities. Besides normal commercial activities in these new commercial towns, inter-ethnic marriages, new dressing habits, food and languages and new tourist attractions, have emerged including mega towns referred to in Nigeria as Railway Towns. These include Lagos, Umuahia, Zaria, Kano, Kafanchan, Jos, Enugu, Aba and Port Harcourt.

The establishment of the Nigerian Railway Corporation in 1955 with sole responsibility for the provision of rail transport in Nigeria provided an exciting opportunity for the movement of goods and persons across the country. The corporation performed reasonably well between 1955 and 1979. In the period 1972 – 1979, in spite of efforts by Government to rehabilitate and reposition the sector, a steady process of decline in its business operations had set in.
This process was later accelerated by the systemic decay of the Corporation’s entire infrastructure, manpower and institutions.

Statistics on passenger and freight traffic show that while the Corporation in 1964 carried 11,288,000 passengers and 2,960,000 tonnes of freight, these figures dropped to 4,342,000 passengers and 1,098,000 tonnes of freight in 1974. Thereafter passenger traffic gradually grew back to 6.7 million in 1978 and reached a peak of 15.5 million in 1984 with the help of RITES of India brought in by our military administration. This declined again to 3.0 million in 1991 and 1.6 million in 2003. The same dismal performance is also reflected in the freight traffic fluctuation from 3 million tones in the 1960’s and 1970’s to less than 100,000 tonnes in recent times.

The same deplorable performance is reflected in the 6% daily locomotive availability rate and in the fact that only 25% of the over 700 Coaches and 4,000 wagons were available for use in recent times. It was certainly a combination of corruption, poor management, inefficiency, lack of adequate marketing, failure to develop new lines and to plan ahead or introduce new technology and adapt to global best practices that saw the near total collapse of the railway in Nigeria.

Government made several efforts in the last 20 years to address the deterioration. Such efforts included:

(a) Techno-Managerial Services by Rites of India (1979 – 1982);

(b) Romanian Project for the supply of Rolling Stock and
Workshop equipment (1986 – 1996) but inconclusive; and

(c) CCECC Track Rehabilitation and some Rolling Stock (1995 – 2003).

In addition to these efforts, studies were concluded on how to get the railway started including the 25-Year Vision Plan which provided the global framework and benchmark for possible Rail expansion and modernization for over 8,000 kms linking all State Capitals and major population centres and industrial areas in the country to be developed over a period of twenty-five years. The report was prepared in 2002.

As part of the effort to bring in private capital, skills and technology, the Bureau of Public Enterprises (BPE) is already considering the possibility of concessioning the existing East, West and Central lines (i.e. Port-Harcourt to Maiduguri with link line from Kafanchan to Kaduna; Lagos to Kano; and Itakpe to Ajaokuta to Warri Rail Lines respectively). Even this requires minimal rehabilitation to get value for money from concessionaires.

Today, we have a new vision, a new commitment, and a holistic strategic plan encompassing expansion and modernization of the Railway to be implemented within a 25-year time frame. Various scenarios and options of commencing and progressing with the implementation of the Plan have been presented for consideration at various fora. Following the presentation of Draft Final Proposal to the Federal Executive Council on 19th July, 2006 the Federal Government endorsed an implementation Plan entailing:

(a) 3 Nos. Longitudinal Lines, Lagos – Up North, Warri – Up North and Port Harcourt – Up North

(b) 4 Nos. Latitudinal Lines; and

(c) Branch and Extension Lines.

This covers all the State Capitals and major commercial centers in the country. Within this framework, it is further agreed that the 1st Phase of the Railway Line should entail the Lagos–Kano Standard gauge, double track railway line spanning over 1315 kilometers with a loop from Minna to Abuja and only Abuja to Kaduna being single track due to inadequate anticipated traffic. It was further agreed that the scope of work, segmentation and construction will follow 5 segments:

1. Lagos – Ibadan

2. Ibadan – Ilorin

3. Ilorin – Minna

4. Minna – Kano; and

5. Minna – Abuja – Kaduna.

This new approach will significantly impact on our people and their communities. It will ease movement, reduce reliance on vehicles and the airport, promote tourism, and build on the foundations of integration, unity, cooperation, and social harmony that we have been working so hard to consolidate.

The design criteria or technical features are:

1. A speed of 120 to 150 km/hour for passenger service

2. A speed of 80km/hour for freight service

3. Rail gauge of 1435 mm Standard Gauge

4. Maximum gradient of 12%, and in exceptional situations 15%;

5. Minimum curve radius: ordinary terrain 2000m, difficult terrain 1200m;

6. Traction type: diesel-electric engine (3 phase engine).

7. Axle weight: 23 tons

8. Type of rail: 60kg/m

9. Block type: computer interlocking, inter-station automatic block, subject to being upgradeable.

10. Continuous welded rail shall be applied on all the tracks.

The construction of the rail line will employ tens of thousands of Nigerians immediately. The entire project will promote technology transfer, the building of new skills, and the development of rail allied industries. As much as possible, local materials will be used.
Furthermore, the towns and communities around the railways will experience an improved socio-economic activity that reduces their unemployment rates.

Fellow Nigerians, this is a critical stage of our national economic growth and development. Our much desired national economic growth, development and cohesion can only be achieved with a modern and virile transportation system of which railway is a very critical part. Therefore, all Nigerians should co-operate with the Government, its consultants and contractors to ensure that the project is completed at the scheduled time for the benefit of all.

Phase I is scheduled to be completed in four years at a cost of $8.3 billion of which $2 billion is being obtained as soft loan from the Chinese Government. Phase II, which will be the second spine of the backbone- Port Harcourt to Jos, with the same design criteria, will follow on the heels of Phase I.

In this regard, those who have encroached on railway land should quietly leave such piece of land to save the Government and themselves the effort of using all means to reclaim such right of way. There will also be need to acquire new land for the modernization and expansion to new locations. I appeal to State Governments and land occupiers to co-operate in making land available for this all-important project.

By the grace of God Almighty, contract formalities for the award and commencement of Lagos–Kano 1st Phase Project of the modernization programme will be signed this month; and construction work will commence immediately thereafter.

To start with, the Federal Government is committing the sum of US$2.5 billion dollars – one billion dollars from the Chinese Government concessionary loan and with one and a half billion dollars Federal Government counterpart additions between 2006 and 2007. It is my hope that subsequent Administrations will buy into this vision and that other friendly countries will offer similar concessionary loan assistance to continue the project in the years ahead with the possibility of a West African regional railway system.

I look forward to the successful completion of the first phase of the Project and the realization of our 25-Year Rail Vision for our benefit and those of succeeding generations. Let us collectively welcome the new future of railway service in Nigeria.

May God continue to bless our dear country, Nigeria.

Thank you.

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Tranquill:
See example you asked for. Why did the charge read CORRUPTION AND THEFT if they mean the same thing. Please go get yourself properly educated and stop coming here to talk trash in the name of politics.

Two cops in court for corruption, theft and defeating the ends of justice

2015-02-14 08:3
Cape Town - A police warrant officer made photocopies
of five R100 notes, and recorded their serial numbers,
before placing the notes in a plastic bank bag, to be
used in an undercover police operation to trap an
alleged corrupt police captain, a court in Cape Town
heard on Friday.
Warrant Officer Gert Botes testified at the trial of
Captain Siyaza Patrick Siyale, 51, and colleague Wilfred
Mentoor, 29. Both have pleaded not guilty to charges
of corruption, theft and defeating the ends of justice,
before magistrate Sabrina Sonnenberg.
Prosecutor Denzyl Combrink alleged that they accused
the then president of the French South Africa Chamber
of Commerce and Industries, Nicodemus Solly Moeng,
of involvement in a black dollar scam, and demanded
money in order not to arrest him.
Siyale alone is also charged with extortion or blackmail
involving R1 800.
Botes told the court that Moeng approached a senior
police officer about Siyale's demands, and that an
undercover police operation was authorised to trap
Siyale.
Moeng had arranged to meet Siyale at the McDonalds
restaurant in Observatory, Cape Town, at 14:00, when
he was to hand over the bag containing R500.
Botes said he and a colonel had parked near the
restaurant, but out of sight of the venue where Moeng
was to hand over the money to Siyale.
Botes added: "If Siyale had seen our car, or recognised
any of us, Siyale would have gotten cold feet and
abandoned the transaction, which we were anxious to
avoid."
A group of police officials from the Intervention Unit,
who were more involved in the trap, hid nearby and
were ready to pounce on Siyale once Moeng gave the
signal.
Asked the purpose of the trap, he said: "We had
information that a police captain was involved in
corruption, and needed to obtain evidence to prove it."
The moment Siyale had received the money, Moeng
was to inform the colonel, and Botes and the colonel
would move towards the restaurant.
Botes added: "Siyale had already been arrested, and his
hands cuffed behind his back, when we arrived at the
restaurant.
"As we drove up to him, Siyale recognised the colonel
and exclaimed, 'you have caught me'," Botes said.
The charge sheet tells how a Congolese investor, David
Kilato, duped Moeng into involvement in a lucrative
investment, which turned out to be the black dollar
scam.
Moeng was informed that the money would be
couriered to him in three different lock-up safes.
According to the charge sheet, Moeng received the
safes, but whilst on his way home with them he was
stopped by Siyale and Mentoor.
It turned out that the safes were filled with black paper
cut into the size of bank notes, and Siyale and Mentoor
accused Moeng of involvement in the scam.

Last word. The law through legislation defines the charges with which a person or institution may be legally prosecuted. But the ordinary meaning of the word corruption is plain to most reasonable people. It is not proper that a President should appear to make light of a plague that is afflicting the nation. Go look up corruption in the dictionary!

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Micuilles:
Very strong sign of the end time. The Devil will always loose. I insist, you are either for Jesus or against him. Buhari & any other Muslim I know does not believe in Jesus, this makes them against him. whether you agree or not is not the issue. I attended a muslim school growing up. Believe me, I know much more about Islam than you think.
@ tundeajani. You are Muslim & in your heart you know the truth & it is sour on your tongue. Nobody would have referred to Buhari as a religious bigot if he didn't make the statement about insisting on sharia law in Nigeria (2003). Out of the heart, the mouth speaks.

And we have seen the abundance in your heart from your speech.

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Tranquill:
See example you asked for. Why did the charge read CORRUPTION AND THEFT if they mean the same thing. Please go get yourself properly educated and stop coming here to talk trash in the name of politics.

Two cops in court for corruption, theft and defeating the ends of justice

2015-02-14 08:3
Cape Town - A police warrant officer made photocopies
of five R100 notes, and recorded their serial numbers,
before placing the notes in a plastic bank bag, to be
used in an undercover police operation to trap an
alleged corrupt police captain, a court in Cape Town
heard on Friday.
Warrant Officer Gert Botes testified at the trial of
Captain Siyaza Patrick Siyale, 51, and colleague Wilfred
Mentoor, 29. Both have pleaded not guilty to charges
of corruption, theft and defeating the ends of justice,
before magistrate Sabrina Sonnenberg.
Prosecutor Denzyl Combrink alleged that they accused
the then president of the French South Africa Chamber
of Commerce and Industries, Nicodemus Solly Moeng,
of involvement in a black dollar scam, and demanded
money in order not to arrest him.
Siyale alone is also charged with extortion or blackmail
involving R1 800.
Botes told the court that Moeng approached a senior
police officer about Siyale's demands, and that an
undercover police operation was authorised to trap
Siyale.
Moeng had arranged to meet Siyale at the McDonalds
restaurant in Observatory, Cape Town, at 14:00, when
he was to hand over the bag containing R500.
Botes said he and a colonel had parked near the
restaurant, but out of sight of the venue where Moeng
was to hand over the money to Siyale.
Botes added: "If Siyale had seen our car, or recognised
any of us, Siyale would have gotten cold feet and
abandoned the transaction, which we were anxious to
avoid."
A group of police officials from the Intervention Unit,
who were more involved in the trap, hid nearby and
were ready to pounce on Siyale once Moeng gave the
signal.
Asked the purpose of the trap, he said: "We had
information that a police captain was involved in
corruption, and needed to obtain evidence to prove it."
The moment Siyale had received the money, Moeng
was to inform the colonel, and Botes and the colonel
would move towards the restaurant.
Botes added: "Siyale had already been arrested, and his
hands cuffed behind his back, when we arrived at the
restaurant.
"As we drove up to him, Siyale recognised the colonel
and exclaimed, 'you have caught me'," Botes said.
The charge sheet tells how a Congolese investor, David
Kilato, duped Moeng into involvement in a lucrative
investment, which turned out to be the black dollar
scam.
Moeng was informed that the money would be
couriered to him in three different lock-up safes.
According to the charge sheet, Moeng received the
safes, but whilst on his way home with them he was
stopped by Siyale and Mentoor.
It turned out that the safes were filled with black paper
cut into the size of bank notes, and Siyale and Mentoor
accused Moeng of involvement in the scam.

We are discussing Jonathan and Nigeria! One thing you fail to understand, there is a moral meaning to corruption and it encompasses all the separate charges listed in your example. A thief is a corrupt person. A bribe giver or taker is a corrupt person. A person who trades on insider information is a corrupt person. The word corruption is broad, the particulars of the corruption may or may not be defined under the criminal law. Jonathan was just being either naturally obtuse or deliberately shady.

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We grow our own food? So why did pdp import rice for elections? Yaradua ended kerosene subsidy and Jonathan continued it and subsidy ballooned under him. Too many lies

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Fake letter denied by the Shagari family many times and not printed by any reputable news source in Nigeria. Not even Doyin Okupe or FFK has claimed it is true. #fail #pdplies

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Tranquill:
When you have made up your mind to see negative in every word or action of the president's, that is your problem. Your hero Prof Sagey saying that every act of corruption is stealing makes sense to you right? There are many Nigerians that think right and know exactly what the president meant so speak for yourself.

Please give the examples as requested. It is simple proof that you and the president are both misguided to say the least! No evasions or prevarication.

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0.95

Just saying

WombRaiders:
Muslims bomb mosques daily in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria.

ISIS has killed more Shiite Muslims and some Sunni Muslims than any other organization in history.

This lie is weak. As it is stated in your Koran that any Muslim that does not actively take part in jihad is a hypocrite and will be condemned to hell. Stop this bullsh1t.

By the way , we know what their plans were in bombing Kano central mosque and I can authoratitavely tell you it wasn't a Boko Haram mission but it was carried out by Sanusi himself in order to trigger sectarian violence in Kano by blaming the bombings on Christains and Igbos.

Sanusi has a history of inciting crowds as he was found guilty by a panel of inquiry set up by Abacha to look into sectarian violence that occurred in 1996.

If not for military personnel and formations stationed in strategic sections in Kano which also had a buffer zone set up between Sabon Giri area , the riotous mob would have spread into the "kafir" enclave just like what happened in 1966.

I can tell you authoratively that the men of the security forces were forced to shoot into the crowd which were armed with crude weapons chanting war songs and Allah akbars.

You are derailing the discussion with lies.

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WombRaiders:
Hypocrite, go and see how tinubu is even subverting federal statues in the form of a FOI in order to hide and continue his vice grip on you fools.

Leave federal government and ask yourself what your theiving governors and local government chairmen did with their illegal share of oil wealth.

Plebs.

Illegal share if oil wealth?
The federal government has investigative and prosecutory powers. What we have seen is the obvious reluctance to use them. Even Obasanjo partisan as he was, was so much better. Jonathan is gone, and we, are done!

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Tranquill:
You are another hero worshiper. The president never justified corruption or stealing. What the president said is that those who steal should not be charged as corrupt officials but as thieves so they don't get away with lighter punishment so I don't know where your issue of morals comes in.

Please give examples of people charged with 'corruption' in the courts? They may be accused of corruption but the charges usually specify the particular corrupt acts as defined by our many laws, which may include theft, stealing, bribe taking or giving, improper contract awards etc. The president was just being stupid to speak in the manner he did, and his opinions certainly offended the sensibilities of all right-thinking people in and outside the country. You are obviously the hero worshipper here, not me.

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WombRaiders:
Fool, Patricia Etteh remains the least corrupt speaker in history.

Demiji Bankole did far worse and your tumbling Tambuwal is on record to have presided over the most corrupt legislative in history.

So go and ask yourself how does the pdp deal with corruption? Or are they still awaiting Jonathans 'technology' before people are arrested and put on trial?

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Tranquill:
The question you should ask these lawyers is, if stealing and corruption are the same, why do they attract different penalties in our laws?

Stealing and corruption are crimes no doubt but they are not the same. It is like adultary and fornication or murder and manslaughter. What Prof Sagey did was just to give two different definitions of stealing and then call one corruption. In law stealing attracts greater penalty than corruption. Stealing is when you take what doesn't belong to you wether as a government official or an individual while corruption is when you try to circumvent the system to the detriment of an organisation such as bribery, nepotism, lying, forgery etc so contrary to what Prof Sagey is saying, it is not every act of corruption that is stealing. Some acts that seem like corruption such as embezzlement of public funds are pure stealing and should be treated as such and that is what the president is saying because if you treat them as corruption they attract lesser penalty in law.

Do not let these partisan lawyers deceive you. In theory and in law, stealing and corruption are different but saying that doesnt mean justifying any of them as good or acceptable.

Stealing is just one specific act of corruption. Whether murder or manslaughter, the judicial verdict is that a person bears some responsibility for the death of another. Corruption is a broad term and what the lawyers object to is such line drawing by the president who should in normal climes be a representative of moral good. Prof Sagay is certainly not your intellectual equal when it comes to discussions on law and morality!

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WombRaiders:
The Emir of Kano is a religious office. The Emir of Kano, Sanusi Lamido did say that help is on the way in ending their own madness in the northeast. This was a tacit support for a Buhari presidency.


Sheik Gummi said that Boko Haram will stop when Goodluck leaves office.

What does all this tell you?

Muslims are behind the insurgency because they all tacitly supportBoko Hatm.

The Nigerian military has raised the alarm that more and more northerners who happen to be exclusively Muslim are joint Boko Jaram daily.

The situation is akin to what is happening in UK where 80% of British Muslims support ISIS with 90% of new volunteers joining ISIS coming from western Nations.

Islam and Muslims can not be removed from Islamic terrorism.

The only foolish thing is Christian liberalism and their constant appeasement to Islam in the name of tolerance,

This same Emir Sanusi. Ko?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-30080514

One of northern Nigeria's most influential Muslim leaders has called on people to defend themselves against attacks by the Boko Haram militant Islamist group.

The Emir of Kano, Muhammad Sanusi, said residents should "acquire what they need" to protect themselves.

The BBC's Will Ross, in Nigeria, says such an intervention is very unusual.

A police spokesman said the Emir's comments were a "call for anarchy" and should not be acted on.

The emir, who until earlier this year was governor of Nigeria's central bank, normally stays silent on political matters.

He made the comments at a prayer meeting, following several further attacks in recent days blamed on Boko Haram.

Jihadists from the group continue to cause havoc in parts of north-east Nigeria, capturing towns and villages where they have been imposing their own strict interpretation of Islamic law.

Primary schools in one of the worst-affected areas have begun reopening after being closed for the past eight months.

Boko Haram, which means "Western education is forbidden", often attacks educational establishments.

Some of the schools are to be protected by self-defence groups.
Deserting soldiers
Policeman at the scene of a suicide bomb attack in Kano A suicide bomb attack near a petrol station in Kano killed several people on Friday

The emir, who strongly criticised the government when he was a banker, said people should not be afraid of the militants and should prepare to defend themselves.

"These terrorists slaughter our boys and abduct our girls to force them into slavery," he said.

"People should not sit idle and say prayer is the only solution. People should be made aware of the importance of being in a state of preparedness and make sure they acquire what they need to protect themselves. We should be ready to give our lives."

The emir said residents should not wait for help from the military. There have been numerous reports of soldiers deserting, saying they are not as well equipped as the militants.

Police spokesman Emmanuel Ojukwu said: "Any call for citizens to arm themselves is a call for anarchy and lawlessness. And this is not allowed under our laws. Such a call should be disregarded. The police [force] is living up to its duty to protect lives and property."

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WombRaiders:
99.9% of Muslims that I have encountered believe staunchly that Goodluck is behind Boko Haram even though they fail to neglect that 100% of Boko Haram members are Muslims from the Kanuri/Hausa/Fulani stock.

100% of Muslims do not see the targeting of indigenous people in the middle belt who happen to be mainly Christians by Fulani/Hausa militias who by chance happen happen to be Muslims as religiously motivated.

Islamic doctrine specifically dictates that Muslims should never allow non Muslims to dominate or lead them.

This is what happened with Patricia Etteh who was removed by northern Muslims who saw her emergence as speaker as an insult to their faith. Etteh's case was compounded because apart fom not being Muslim she was a woman.

Your ignorance and lies are too many. Please educate yourself properly on why Mrs Patricia Etteh was removed.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patricia_Etteh

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