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O dika imaghi na umu Igbo bi na ugwu!

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Onye nụ nga i kwuge, ya adịka anaghị egbubu ha...
Ndị Igbo bi ebe ahụ chekwa onwe ha, dịka anyị na-azafụ ndị ishi n'ala rụga mpụ n'ala Igbo!

Ndị a mere inyo!!!
Gịnị nabiri ha i'ji ogbunigwe na bọmbụ ndị ọzọ lukpọsịa ama awụsa ahụ niile
E kwesịrị ị'zafụ ama awụsa ahụ!!

Zionmdde:

Yoruba indeed.
Why would a yoruba man care if u want to finish off ur own region. Keep reasoning with ur anus. Just very soon ur kids will be afraid to go to school because of insecurity, schools closed, markets closed curfew declared and u think u are doing a yoruba man who will probably be rejoicing at ur misfortune.

God gave u brains but u decide to think through anus
Ewu Gambia nwuru anwu. Nkita ra cha kwa gi onu there. Mkpi ebule kpokasia ike ebe a hu. Ozu nwuru anwu

Nde ofe mmanụ na-eje ka onye ọma CY, na-achọ onye Igbo na-amaghị ihe akọga ka eduhe ya.
Yoruba people like you are the ones most interested in this issue, famzing up and down as if they care so much about the Igbo Nation.
Don't deny your omoluabi roots

Zionmdde:

Sharrap.
Continue hiding under ur bed one day dat violence will meet u right under dat bed

Taa kpuchie ọnụ nshị ahụ!!!
A Yoruba would come and start talking nonsense outta deep hate for the Igbo realm, whilst masquerading it as words of love
Stop being shameless and quit disgracing the Yoruba world!

Zionmdde:
[s]Wat is all this rubbish na
Questions Igbos should ask themselves at this point
What did those Ipob guys said their aim Is? Protect igboland and ensure peace

What is the outcome since ESN was formed? Escalated bloodshed, insecurity, people fleeing their homes, apprehension everywhere.

Why is kanu still in UK instigating violence? Because he is afraid to come home for the fear of being killed

If he loves life then why is he pushing others to their death? because those obeying him reek of stupidity

Who stands to loose in all these things? IGBOS.

How? No peace, no conducive environment for commercial activities, no conducive environment for investors, Anarchy, kids will pull out of schools, massive suffering. Ariaria market will close up, onitsha market market, grounding of commercial activities

Wat of the politicians we think we are giving a hard time? They are enjoying themselves, they have houses overseas, money keep flowing even more into the face of unrest. An igbo adage says "Ala adi ghi mma bu uru ndi nze
How do northerner regions see this? They will be very happy that its not only their region is burning. U can't expect those who hate u to feel sad wen ur house is burning

Wat will happen in the long run? Innocent citizens will bear the brunt. Wen a region is in anarchy army will kill anybody they want and tag the person ESN and get away with it.. People will no longer be safe in their own homes, take a clue from borno state.

Wat Igbos should do? Stand vehemently and fight these ESN guys, stone them wherever u see them, let dem know they are not fighting for ur security.

As for herdsmen, we all arm ourselves ready to deal with them wen they come[/s].

Inyo juru ebe niile!!!
All these Yoruba and their useless fake love

Egwu dịkwa oo

WorstWanderland:

oyi abole?

no need am idoma.
can even teach you if you want to learn

apo?

Ole ebe ị nọ?
Ala Igbo?

Ndị a, ha ọ ka na-akọ inyo?

Ọ ga-amasịm... Ma ka anyị na-ele anya

ChinenyeN:


I don’t know who the OP (original poster) is, so I won’t offer up any opinions on them per se. But it’s possible you mean OP as in “original post” (the post itself). In that case, I can say a few things about it.

To begin with, I can’t say I disagree with the writer’s premise. Anyone who casually examines the ethno-linguistic history and traditions of origin in the area will find it near impossible to claim beyond a doubt that Ndoki and Bonny don’t have ancestral, non-slave, Igbo-speaking origins. So that part is agreeable. It’s just that a lot of what the writer says to support the premise in this write up is questionable.

Truthfully, I think the original post is rather “Ijaw-phobic”, if I can use that term. The writing is so heavily anti-Ijaw that it ends up discrediting itself at times. If you dig even a little, the write up shows a lot of inconsistencies and even some outright wrong things.



If this is limited to the Umueze clan, then I can understand where the writer may be coming from. One of the oral traditions in Umueze claims a long-winding history of migration from Benin or Central Delta, entering “Igboland” from the south and then cutting northeast towards Oguta, etc. However, Umueze has never claimed Oguta as its homeland. Even before this “Ijaw vs Igbo” saga started, the Umueze never mentioned Oguta as ancestral homeland. It’s always been either Benin or Central Delta Ijaw. The writer could possibly be making a supposition here that Ndoki (Umueze) are part of that set of Ndoni-Abo-Oguta communities near the Central Delta. It’s not a bad supposition. However it is not a claim that has ever been made by Ndoki people, not even in early intelligence reports.

Now, if the writer is not limiting this to Umueze and is instead referring to all of Ndoki, then this would simply be wrong. Ndoki is not from Oguta. Their traditions do not trace them to Oguta.



The writer got this wrong and ended up confusion themselves in the process. It is actually the ethnonym “Ogoni” (and not Ibani) that refers to a “guest” or a “stranger”, derived from the Ijaw word “igoni”.



This is not, actually. To begin with, Ogoni traditions actually acknowledge that they are not the aboriginal settlers in the area. Much of what is “Ogoniland” was acquired bloodily through conquest and the absorption of already existing communities. There are two main Ogoni traditions of origin. The tradition that has the most support claims that they migrated east to west, crossing the Imo (from present day Akwa Ibom) to settle in the area. The second tradition claims that their ancestors arrived on trading ships that would visit Bonny. They lived in Bonny for a while and later felt the need to move further inland to settle (Bonny traditions I believe suggest that this is how they got their name). Regardless of which tradition is the “correct” one, the dating for both of these can at best be justified at the 18th century or so. This is centuries after Bonny was founded. There would have been no Ogoni to interact with at the time and when you survey the oral traditions of the entire Niger Delta, you’ll notice the absence of Ogoni in the communities’ early traditions. Early Asa traditions and early Ngwa traditions make no mention of Ogoni. Early Bonny traditions make no mention of crossing through Ogoni communities to settle. Okrika and Kalabari traditions show no early memory of Ogoni, and even the Ogoni themselves have no traditions that mention how the other communities arrived and settled, meaning they could not have been in the area during those formative periods.



If we take a survey of ethnonyms within the Niger Delta region, we will notice some ethnonyms that are used exclusively by Ijaw.

Where the natives will call themselves “Obolo” and others will call them “Andoni”, only the Ijaw will call them Idoni.

Where the natives will call themselves originally as “Khana”, others will call them “Ogoni”, but only the Ijaw will call them “Igoni”.

Where they natives called themselves “Okoloma”, and others call them Ubani or Obani, but only the Ijaw will use “Ibani”.

There is a clear pattern of derivation here and a clear pattern of consistency in Ijaw usages. It suggests that the name “Ibani” (like "Ogoni" and "Andoni" ) is likely derived from Ijaw. While I do agree with the writer in that I am suspicious of Alagoa likely having fabricated some stories and migrations during the Ijaw re-authorization period, there nothing to suggest that this is one such fabrication. The term “Ibani” likely comes from Ijaw and was derived into Ubani, Obani, etc. by others.



This is incorrect on a number of points. One, “Ndoki” is a collection of clans that do not claim a common ancestor. Eze is only the progenitor of Umueze clan. The Umueze clan are noted by other Ndoki clans as recent arrivals. They arrived in the late 18th century in the company of Ijaw people. Azumini is also one of the youngest settlements in the area, established by Kwokwo Eze (a son of Eze). Umueze first settled at Obunku Okwanku. That said, the writer is correct on one count. All of the founding/early communities in Ndoki seem to have been Igbo-speaking.



More or less correct. Apparently, it is corroborated that there were two other communities in the vicinity during Bobby’s early days, Abalama and Inyong Okpon (what later came to known as Finima). However, contact between these communities was not during initial settlement. According to one tradition by Finima, their boundaries grew into each other and that is how they became aware of each other. Fixing a chronology for their interactions has been a little difficult, because some claim they were there since the 12th century, but some specifics in oral traditions hint as a later date of a perhaps the 15th century or slightly later. I suspect that they all more or less arrived at the same time and that they likely became aware of each other a bit late in their early histories. However, that is just a suspicion. Until the oral traditions can be thoroughly untangled and a chronology can be reasonably established, I will tend to just go with the current orthodox traditions that Inyong Okpon was likely there first, followed by Abalama and then Bonny. So, if we want to follow hard ethno-linguistic lines, Ibibiod (Inyong Okpon), Ijaw (Abalama), and Igbo (Bonny, though contested) were all in the area during that formative period.



No. Once the social-political culture shifted in the 18th century, so did the lingua franca. The lingua franca of the controlling Conoe Houses was Ijaw. The language used by Bonny leadership, used for official rites, ceremonies, festivals, music, and all sorts of culture, was Ijaw. Igbo-speaking was for commoners and trade as things were shifting into the Palm Oil trade era (dominated by Ngwa, Asa and Ndoki).



More or less correct. Except Ikuba is from Andoni, not Ndoki, if I recall correctly. And Tolofari is Ijaw.



Mostly correct on this account. The version of Nwotam practices by Bonny and Andoni comes from the one from Mkpuajekere. Other variants of the masquerade exist in Ngwa and Asa (as Nwutam), but not the guild form developed by Mkpuajekere and consequently spread to Bonny and Andoni.



This is more or less in line with most of the traditions of origin.



This curlew tradition is independently referenced and corroborated by Ngwa, Ndoki and Bonny-Ijaw communities. This is not a fabrication but instead an actual oral tradition shared by multiple communities in the region. As stated earlier, the first settlement of Ndoki (Umueze) was Obunku Okwanku. The Okoloma in Ndoki are a recent settlement part of a reverse migration that occurred in the 19th century as a result of the civil war (Bonny vs Opobo) and ongoing conflict with other Niger Delta trading states .



It would take a lot to respond to this effectively, so perhaps I’ll leave much of it for another day and just say that yes. For the most part, the writer is correct here in that Bonny is an admixture of people, and the political shift in the 17th - 18th century introduced the Canoe House system and feudal system into Bonny. However, since then, Ijaw houses have controlled the commerce, not "Ndoki".

Do you know the meaning of the word "Ndoki"?
What does it mean?

Rosskiiku:


We've heard this all before.

''No power in black Africa can subdue Biafra''.

- Col. Emeka Ojukwu, shortly before the start of the Biafran war, 1967.

Useless Nigerian...
Threatening igbos can never work.. also don't forget that this isn't '67

Threatening the Empire of Great Igbo has never worked and won't work.
Try it and see Nigeria burnt down faster than can be imagined. 1967 has come and gone... Now is 2021 and the conditions are very different.
Do anyhow and see Abuja burnt down to the ground!

Akalia:
You are a wise man. The crop of the current generation of youngsters in the south east who are instigated by the diabolic Nnamdi cownu or whatever he calls himself to push for secession are mostly illiterates and society undesirables. They are miserable and as such they are hell bent on making others have a taste of their misery under the guise of IPOB and ESN. The Nigerian security agents should come down hard on them, they are not even as sophisticated and mindless as BH. I hate these Vermins. I am a full blooded ibo man but I will never support any violent aggression aimed at undermining the government. Our politicians are guilty of years of misrule but they are way better than the likes of Nnamdi Kanu and his evil minions, wherever they may be.

Lelee nye kpọrọ nwe ya nye Igbo
O che na anyị yiri ya ụmụaka

I think that the area of Cross river state should be ceded to Ambazanya...

BluDesk:




Go to hell. Your existence has no significance. Muffin

For you to react this way, it means that his submission hit you like an arrow, making rants the only feasible way for you to react

SuperBold:


I'm just telling them yorubas never do dem anything but dey won't leave us alone

Why not wait till they mention Yoruba before you start jumping in to show your self
The Yoruba are a glorious Nation, stop disgracing the Yoruba realm with your bushness

SuperBold:
The day ibo leave Yoruba alone and face the people that wrong them, is the day they will start seeing good results

Pls tell...
Where did they mention Yoruba in the write-up?

ezenwajosh:
Eze NRI, obi of onicha, asagba of asaba were all reinvented under the colonialist version of chiefs which is the one you see today under the governor of a state....IGBO ENWE EZE MEANS A king never has absolute power....infact we don't call them kings or igwe

Nwanne hapụ nkọgheri gị a...
Under the Eastern region, the house of chiefs had only three Igbo first class chiefs viz eze nri, eze arọ and ezeigwe ugwuta.. adding the amanyanabos of opobo, bonny and kalabari who are of Igbo descent but are currently not regarded as igbos makes them six.
These kings were the only kings in igboland east of the niger who were priest kings and so were not installed by the colonial powers

Igboid:


Ndokwa I think produces more of gas than oil. That they produce oil is not news.
Their elders are corrupt? They are not more corrupt than Ika elders.
I doubt the Osakwe guy has stolen more than Okowa has stolen from Delta North as a senator and from Delta state as a governor.

Aguleri vs Umuleri is intra tribal fight. Ndokwa vs Isoko is inter tribal fight. They are not the same.


You have tried too hard to attach yourself to Ndokwa, but Ndokwa historically have more bond with Enu-ani than they have with Ika.
They have places like Onicha-Ukwuani, even Asaba something (can't remember it now), etc in Ndokwa, and the people inter marry too.

However, my understanding is that Ndokwa people have this "our Oyel" mentality and consider Ika and Enuani as potential parasites to them should Anioma state be created. Many of them think Anioma state is going to be built on their oil while Enu-ani and Ika rule over them and are thus against the idea of Anioma state.

I don't know if their political elites hold the same view as the above. But their commoners hold the above view.

Asaba asa

okigbojihad:


for the fact i do not cue into ipob ideas doesn't make me none Igbo..get that

An Igbo that can't speak Igbo
Biko kọrọm akụkọ ọzọ!

okigbojihad:


your approaches are wrong since time immemorial from ss saga now to killing police saga..there are proves every were to blame ipob of the attacks carried out.
cc.afube

get ur self a good leader, and if u ever think nigeria will split without a fight then u're sleeping on a bicycle...

Ugbuu ka o zhiri onwe ya na ọ bụghị onye Igbo....

Ọ ga-adị mma ka ndi Igbo gbashie ya nkịtị ka ọ mara na sọọ ya kwụụ n'aparị ya

Akụkọ

Chibuike21:
For an Igbo soldier, enlisted in the Nigerian army to say this >treason.

Keep masquerading as an igbo

Chibuike21:
When we can't hoist the flag in Ala Igbo we are going to Bakassi? Enough chest beating already.

Nkaferi gị na-asazi afọ... Onye Awụsa jege ka nwaafọ!

The war is upon us... In visions that God has shown his loved ones, the chaos would be widespread, but in the long run the Nigerian army would be totally decimated.
The UN itself would preside over the dismemberment of Nigeria into its constituent Nations, and the name Nigeria would be a byword for state corruption and inefficiency

mrkunlex:
Saw this on fb
THIS IS OYO STATE POLICE COMMISSIONER PHONE NUMBER DIRECTLY MRS NGOZI ONADEKO, ODUDUWA CITIZENS CALL HER TO RELEASE THOSE OPC MEMBERS IMMEDIATELY WITHOUT CHARGED.
TEL +2348033026799. THANKS
God bless yoruba nation

Isn't it the same Yorubas that were hailing her on her appointment as CP when MNK railed against it?

Igboid:


Calyto.
The above is the debt your people in Benue (Idoma, Tiv, Igede) own Ndiigbo. One we have not forgotten. Those Igbos your people murdered, their children have grown to adults and have children too.
The stories have been retold from father to son and there is a bottled up anger and desire for revenge.

Don't start what you can't finish by trying to meddle into issues of Igbo speaking communities indigenous in Benue state. You might not like the reactions you will trigger.

Hapụ ya ka ọ na-akọgheri...
Anyị ga-enye ndị Fula aka kpochapụ ndị Binuwe

Nke a tụkwara anya oo

Warripikine:
ESN are also doing the lords work here in isoko..

Really
That means that the isoko guy who complained about his people being left out hath gotten the number of isoko sons required thereby guaranteeing his receipt of logistics from MNK.
Isoko sons guarding AlaIsoko is testament to MNK's sagacity

AmbaliJ:
Reno the ibo asslicker. Nothing wey hin go talk wey go surprise pesin. He sucks ibos deeks for a living.

And igbo deeks never fail in cumming