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it is not a good topic to think of or discuss but if one can hide it very well in his or her mind and compare and contrast, one can imagine an european living in a country where there is no light, water supply and good roads to mention but a few.
by the way, what do we gain in a country blessed with numerious resources? how long do we need to start living like human beings in a rich country? who do we trust to do this if obj who was released from jail and sent to aso rock has refused to deliver? who do we trust now?
i want to say it in a wisper - eurpean. we have to accept the fact that our politicians have failed us. we have to believe that no two politicians have the same plans in nigeria. if parties have manifestos that are working why wouldn't obj allow atiku to continue from where he stopped?
a stupid polity where a person in this modern time of democracy can decide to hold two most important and sensitive positions(president and minister of petrolium).
in which european country can u see a minister spoil the educational values of a country and then shamely shifted to aviation ministry spoil that and equally refused to resign and the brother could only reduce the tension in the country by shifting him to culture ministry.
if the truth is death, in fact i would want shout it here loud- the Europeans should come to our aid.
south africa suffering the effects of apperthied should equally accept that the are african's europe because of the days of the whites.
don't we find it better to be under apperthied for a period of time than this everlasting political insanity which has reduced our thinking system to criminality.

in 1991, i was in an exam hall (gce center) where a lot of malpractices took place.
the gal seated next to me was good in most of the subjects including maths. on the day of maths i decided to engage myself in some mal-practises atleast to get a p since i was not good at that but the gal will report me to the nearest invigilator.
it happened that she was not that too good in biology. so on the day of bilogy, she decided to play along.
one of the questions was, draw and label the female reproductive organ.
i was watching her as she bend down opening her skirt and underwears from time to time as inquisitive as i was, tried to see from where she was getting information but she was fast to close her legs.
further efforts from my side revealed that she was answering that particular question which made her copying from the original.
immediately i raised my hands and invited an invigilator to report to him that the good gal sitting next to me was copying from the original and that she was cheating

mamaput, if u are a mother, are u still with ur husband? if you are still with ur husband, why do u intend bringing ur daughter out from her own husband in case men like nightfall marry her? if she comes back to ur house, would u be sleeping with ur husband in the night or with her? when u bring her back to ur house, what happens to her life and her urges?

to u nightfall, from advise u have recieved so far, i expect u to say by now that u have done it.

it is quiet obvious that man shall not live by bread alone and no man survives eating a particular soup so i surport the school of thought that say go ahead and cheat but the difference with my position here is that what is good for the guess will equally be good for the gender. ur wife will equally need to excercise herself and since u said she is beautiful, i might be lucky here. wow what a a frown i can imagine on ur face.

remember, ur wife is a woman and most probably will not be ready to seek the consent of anyone even her closest person so be ready for the worst.

if jose is good as a coach, what stops him from airing his opinion on issues? the first time i noticed him was last season when he lamented over a goal scored against man u by tottenham which was not recorded as a goal. it worth shouting for if u watched the match so talking out loud in such situations make other coaches to know that someone is seeing and will be ready to lament hence they will reduce their back yard business.
if you can look back to epl before the coming of Jose, u will see it was ferhie and wenger fighting each other for reasons they best know. today all eyes on jose. the money is there to pay fines when found guity of false accusation.
i am well convienced that he knows what is he is crying for and talking is part of the game. off the pitch he was reminding or informing everybody what to expect in spain against barca hence created a room for a war with the barca players who concentrate on jose instead of football so it was players versus coach while rijkard and chelsea players were all calm till was all over.
he knows and has all it takes to go places both on and off the pitch.

our so called american residents, i salute your wisdoms as you all claim in this forum especially in the case of odeku and iyke-d.
since Orji Uzor kalu is insane, what happened to our most praised Okonjo Iweala? why has Odili despite accumulating uncontrollable wealth has continued to remain a secred cow?
what has happened to Tony Annenih who was accused of diverting 300 billion naira mearnt to construct lagos - benin -onistha express way and till date the only answer he gave when orji made a public comment was that the money was used in making sure that all the governors were returned unopposed.
what happened when tafa balogun was arrested? most of the funds dound on him was giving to him by the members of the rulling pdp. whenever there is a case of financial corruption, it always takes two to tangle and how come a party is always punished with the other remaining a secred cow?
who is Bode George? what happened to the efcc reports on him and NPA? obj simply told Ribadu to go back and do his home work well. what happened the alleged us$4.6 million fraud dictated by Okonjo iweala on getting to the ministry or foreign affairs. it was reported that the then ministry tranfered 4.6million dollars against a payment of us$22,000.00
from all indications, kalu's odeal stated when he gave the federal government ultimatum to reconstruct okigwe - aba express road which was a horror zone or he will demolish all tow gates in his states. if we are saying it is not a personal issue, how come his airline(slok) was banned in nigeria and gambia till date is using it as a presidential jet that lands in Abuja's presidential wing whenever the gambian president is visiting abuja and since then how many of the approved airlines have crashed in nigeria without any sad news coming from the rejected airline which has turned out to be the pillar of airlines in other african countries.
it takes fools not to know what and how obj has been carrying the country along. a bell university worth of 7 billion, a major share holder in the major companies which have practically bought all the public owned companies.
a weak old man elected as the president of nigeria as well as a self appointed petrolium minister.
the best president that nigerian has ever had yet non of the basic infrastructures is working over a two tenure of eight year with the scurity system in the country at its worst ever since the inception of the country.
no wonder he wanted a third tenure which failed and now working towards it through his instigation of instablities in most states of the country. how come the criminal governors were all allowed to ply their trades in their various states till now that elections are a few months away? impeachment and suspensions all over the place. no wonder his child went public in anger over atiku's refusal of third term bid.
it is uncalled for otherwise it will be worthy here to notify our americans if actually u are there that nigeria at present is the worst history can offer in africa security wise if not world wide. a country where robbers go to banks and operate for 5 hours. a country where robbers block express ways and operate for 4 hours and more without interuption.
even illiterates in our country today are all aware that no ordinary citizen of a state has the right to remove a governor from office as was witnessed in anambra between chris uba and ngige yet nothing was done to him rather he was made a member board of trustee in the pdp.
please Odeku and Iyke i would want you to inform this forum the bases of your arguement if Mr. IBB is still walking in and out of aso rock and even making effort to go like obj as a civilian president and yet obj and efcc have seen no reason to get him behind bars.
it will be worthy to note that all public office holders in nigeria are well connected as to know how to send our funds out and to trace who owns what with anyother country and non of them is blind least of all Orji Uzor kalu.

obj, our able president as well as our petrolium minister is out to fight corruption through the use of efcc and other organisation since the inception of his administration in 1999.
in his war against corruption and recovery of public looted funds, a lot has been recovered from past leaders especially the late Abacha's family.
the question here is, if such volume of funds have been recovered from and through the late president's family in the past seven years, what has happened to funds looted during Ibb regime?
is efcc unable to link any stolen fund to the general(ibb)? if the answer here is yes, it means the obj administration and her agents have confirmed the general(ibb) a clean man and a well served president under the military regime who if elected as a civilian president will do well.
the confussion here is that ibb even refused to appear before the oputa panel and even the lame men in the streets knows that ibb is stinkingly rich and could not have gotten such wealth through his salary as a president yet nothing has been done to him till date.
could this be a joke or what? could it be that someone is interpreting a script here? could it be a pre-arranged proggrame that obj hands over to his co-general?
what do u think about ibb and obj?

it is always embarrassing to see people insult others for no reason. Odeku, your profile shows u are in chicago but most of your posts that i have seen here prove otherwise.
someone is asking who is the thief between obj and atiku and ppl are airing their views, instead of you saying your mind u go ahead insulting ppl.
by the way, why do u think obj is better than ibb. ibb has been there as a millitary president so what stops him from doing like obj by coming back as civilian president?
ibb was bad and what is the difference now that we have obj who is surposed to be the messiah?
banning this banning that, the only thing that is not banned in nigeria is armed robbery which has taken over the country since the coming to power of obj in 1999. are you not in anyway thinking that weapons shared by the pdp led government for thuggry are currently in use on our roads by armed robbers.
what areas of the public lives have improved in nigeria since obj took power(s) in 1999?
how many governments in the history of nigeria operated without a petrolium minister?
nigeria depnds on oil and the income is high but the obj government considers it ideal to keep that portfolio in otah.
this administration that is claiming to be a saint will turn to be the worst is the next president decides to visit the sins of the administration and we will then have reasons to forgive ibb his sins.
i can't stop thinking about the reason for banning slok air in nigeria while the airline has turned to be a presidential flight for Gambia and how many of the so approved airlines in nigeria have crashed since then while slok air continues to operate international roots without problems.
mr. odeku, i try to read ur comments most times just to see your points and then compare them with the ones you call stupid comments but unfortunately i can't see anything reasonable or conviencing points from ur opinion.
odeku, it is high time you upgrade your profile from chicago to an interior village in one of the yoruba states or you upgrade ur understanding and behaviour in public places.
i have to boldly inform u here that most of the ppl whose opinion u call stupid are more educating and informing than all of ur postings that i have gone through.
this place is a place of learning and sharing of opinion but ppl tend to use this forum to expose their ignorance.

am afraid we don't even know ourselves.
will he accept the job in the first place?
will nigerian accept his working conditions?
is nigeria ready to pay for a world class coach?
if no one here knows, i am well aware that what the glass house is looking for is a "businessman coach".
who will be surprise is nelson Mandela or charles taylor will be annouced as the next coach.
the political situation in the country has practically affected every aspect of ourlives.
am not even sure they are looking for a coach because the searcg for a coach does not take ten years.
i am even waiting to hear that Jose mourinho has been linked to the glass house.
the more we build castles in the air the more our football go down day by day.
no country in africa is afraid to play nigeria these days since lesotho and niger come to rub shoulders with super eagles that narrowly missed their target in sending italy home in us 94.

am afraid we don't even know ourselves.
will he accept the job in the first place?
will nigerian accept his working conditions?
is nigeria ready to pay for a world class coach?
if no one here knows, i am well aware that what the glass house is looking for is a "businessman coach".
who will be surprise is nelson Mandela or charles taylor will be annouced as the next coach.
the political situation in the country has practically affected every aspect of ourlives.
am not even sure they are looking for a coach because the searcg for a coach does not take ten years.
i am even waiting to hear that Jose mourinho has been linked to the glass house.
the more we build castles in the air the more our football go down day by day.
no country in africa is afraid to play nigeria these days since lesotho and niger come to rub shoulders with super eagles that narrowly missed their target in sending italy home in us 94.

like Ronke rightly said, the young gals are after married men. if we want to be sincere here, when we discuss any married person, there is a kind of respect attached to the person which is as a result of the institution called married.
if anyone is having doubt about this start from today, make a careful and impertial observation of extra marital affairs and you will be able to find out that women in either cases initiate the moves and men in their bold world pronounce them.
have you taking notice of how the young gals carry themselves whenever they see a married neirghbour? have you seen young gals' dressing codes when they are attending interviews or meeting their lecturers in their offices?
have u ever see how grown up housemaids behave whenever they are alone with their masters?
are we all overlooking body language which sends invitations to men? body language on the side of the woman tells the man that i want you but culture demands that you mention it as a man.
like seun said, nobody is robbed or killed and in 99% of such cases, there are not reports of rapes.
if we want to be realistic, let us ask why the young gals preffer married men to single ones.
we all hear the gals come back to say, why didn't u tell me u are married? will it be crazzy if we ask here, what about the young gals running after public offices holders who are always on news? are we saying the gals do not all know the men are married. will there be any possibility of a state governor whose wife is always on news as the first lady will come back to be single?
we are all aware that most married men go back home weak and tired as a result of the acrobatic displays of their mistresses whose intention are always to prove to the men that they(the young gals) can do better than their wives. it is worthy to note here that most of these young gals have succeeded in many cases in destroying happy homes.
a writter here said is a woman's world and i want to agree with her out of fear and the consequences of this take over is telling on our society and mind you as leaders of the world women has introduced several weapons of mass destruction and they are really winning the wars to their favours.
fortunately, the men have some good advantages here when it comes to marriage as most of these young gals will end up not getting attached but the men will always go back to their various families.
my view and position here is that the gals in most cases initiate the moves though they may appear not to be interested but the factor here is pretence.
i have seen many single men loose their gals to the married men who appear the gals as responsible people and are able and willing to know and take care of the gals' problems.

Akowale and Odeku,
we are seeing a situation where both men(atiku and Obj) are accusing each other. if both men are accusers then who will pardon who?
the accounts in question belongs to both of them as atiku outlined that it was used in funding the 2003 election which he has decided to back up with cheques.
if after 7 years obj and efcc is only deciding to impeach atiku now because he decleared his interest in running for presidency, then it must be madness.
it is clear here that obj is not planing to leave the office peacefully and now he is planing another 3rd campaign.
what do we stand to gain from an administration that could not provide power and water suply over their two tenures of eight years with the nation's security at its worst since inception.
you are refferencing Tony Blair, what happened in a country where the president decided to be the minister of petrolium(nigeria)?
in which countries of the world are court injunctions are overlooked even by the president who is surposed to be the leader with example?
between 1999 till date, can u count how many public post holders and aspirants that have been killed? can u even compare the killing rate in our so called democracy with that of the military regime?
on what conditions would u want to talk about britain and other modern countries with nigeria.
in which democracy do u see security agents arrest people only to release or detain them based on preseidential individual's instructions.
how come public cases are decided in otah farm instead of in one of our numerious courts.
what happens to the ministers and other arms of governments when it comes tyo decission making?
Orji Uzo Kalu from 1999 till date has been lamenting on the riches of our able president. he has been listing his achievements on personal grounds since he became the president. and why would most business empires are closed without reasons? how and why will someone in his good shape of mind compare nigeria with british political system?

i can see arsenal fans are the same everywhere. they have refused to accept mistakes. selling of Viera was one of the club's biggest mistake.
imagine arsenal had the same problem of loosing two of the first choice goalkeepers in a match. you will imagine henry starting their next match as a keeper.
u see ebue is out with injury and the club is back slidding. it took a divine intervention for them to equalize a home match with everton yesterday.
the happiness of every fan is the joy of winning while the club and its board enjoys the financial benefits.
why will i be a fan to the club whose interest is only in making gains without buying the necessary players to win match.
if they refuse to spend, then they are refusing and denying the fans the joy of celebrating winning.
for u arsenal fans, i wish u good luck but always remember that better players, better lucks

will it be nice to say that nigerian politics is graduallly taking the place of nollywood in Nigeria?
movie is all about writting and interpretations of scripts and in Nigeria we see all activities unfold as predicted by anti OBJ.
impeachment here and there, state of emergency in Ekiti, killing of Atiku's aid, suspension of atiku, 31 governors on impeachments list, etc.
if we agree that scripts are been interpreted in nigeria, then who is the script writter? OBJ or who?
who are the actors? are they hired just for the purpose or?
finally can someone tell me who the best actor here is?

omofineboy,
from ur writeups in this topic, i want to believe u read and understand the politics of the country and ur position is so neutral that u want the right thing to be done at anytime.
kalu is saying obj is spoiling her mother with gifts. he even mentioned that obj bought a jeep for his mother.
he also said that his mother is always a guest at aso rock.
from what i read, efcc went to the woman's house in aba 12:30am and will that be an officail time for an arrest in country where assasins kill without notice.
the truth of the matter is that obj, efcc and the governors are into a movie without a caption. we are all watching a country where the presidents through his arms points and kills.
when did kalu's mother become too big for nigeria to arrest. i will not even be surprise if the woman will come out on the pages of the newspapers to say nobdy has invited her officially for questioning.
obj if at all has anything reasonable to do shld invite the woman as usual and arrest her.
on his side, he shld be able to prove to nigerians that all the accusations from kalu are all false.
the country is becoming worse and worst on daily bases. obj shld simply accept the fact that he is a failure and stop decieving the masses.
if with all the available resources, even with a blind man as the president of nigerian, there is no steady power supply in nigeria till date and the security system in the country has become the worst ever on record since the inception of the country.
i think the yoruba traditional system of government shld have a role to play here advising obj to go and commit suicide.
we have pressing national issues to address and nobody is talking about them insteady the old man is here talking about atiku and orji uzo kalu.
how do we progress when personal interest is over-riding the public interest.
whatsoever the governors are doing, they learnt from their president who is also the petrolium minister as well as the party chairman. he decideds who to arrest and release as the chief security officer. he appoints and disappoints. he controls the nation as his personal property and makes laws as if there is no judiciary in place.
his attitude towards the much praised okonjo iwuala proved his selfish nature and his great greed to remain unchallaned.
he that took abacha shld also repeat the action as he is proving to be above all. we are in dare need of the invicible hands.

inec is to use electronics voting machines in the 2007 elections. is this going to work out in a country where there is no steady power supply?
i am forseeing a situation where after the voting the machines will break down maybe as a result of power failure and then the results and other information will be lost only to be retrieved from the mother companies which means counting our votes abroad.
at least that will be international rigging which will be a modernisation of what we shld to have.
obj and his pdp lead government is just playing with nig and is seriously looking for a landing spot as confussion is the other of the day.
do we do what others are doing without been like them?
please let there be light in the country or pdp should continue with their manual rigging as we are used to that or?

Waddup,
na waa, see ur ability to express urself just because u see a free website here in nairaland then tell me how u will will act if u are in mourinho's shoes.
it is easy and simple for one to conclude that u will automatically become a journalist.
naija, ppl we are very funny ppl.
he is doing great and in his job and for every coach in the world even eguavon, he talks as that is part of their job to say their minds and respond to ppl's topics.

walelead, u and other nigerians shld have learnt some football lessons from okocha's carrer.
Mikel is not stupid like u said. playing at the most competitive club in the world makes u very strong.
okocha for all we know was very good but we have to accept that he was always at the wrong clubs where he plays regular football.
Mikel is in chelsea and the only focus he shld have is that the work is hard there and we will appreciate the fact that it is only when the work is hard that we know the hard workers.
that God that sent him there has started the good work in him.
chelsea's coach and that of man u are world class coaches and both of them have seen something serious in the young man and they were ready to go to war for him yet nigerians never believed that the guy has what it takes.
no wonder our able Eguavon felt bad when the young man got his first award in Egypt by CAF.
woa, nigerians, all we owe this young man is prayers for progress .
go back to record all prominent players in all clubs have to wait for their time which will always come.
as i see mikel, he trusts his legs so much and he is not in a haste and i don't think he is under any form of preasure as the coach himself believe in the young man.
Mikel, na u biko

the lessons of okocha's carrer makes me believe nigerian players should strive to join the best/biggest clubs in the world if they get the opportunity.
big clubs promotes carrers and that has been my reasons for my strong supports for Mikel in chelsea.
if okocha could not get any award after all his football displays it then tells how much small clubs can reduce players.

could this be a judgement b4 judgement or a case of personal decission overiding the interest of the over 150 million nigerians?

could it mean that all these madness is all about 2007?

will it mean that Atiku who has been decleared a public criminal will no longer be called one if he debnounce his presidential ambition.

does it happen in any democracy that the president takes personal decissions on critical public matters without considering the relevance of other arms of government.

if these words are truely from obj, would it mean that there has been a conclussion on his problems with atiku?

are we reapping the fruits of his means of coming to power or his military democracy?

could this be a judgement b4 judgement or a case of personal decission overiding the interest of the over 150 million nigerians?

could it mean that all these madness is all about 2007?

will it mean that Atiku who has been decleared a public criminal will no longer be called one if he debnounce his presidential ambition.

does it happen in any democracy that the president takes personal decissions on critical public matters without considering the relevance of other arms of government.

if these words are truely from obj, would it mean that there has been a conclussion on his problems with atiku?

are we reapping the fruits of his means of coming to power or his military democracy?

Baby Lauryn,
u look pretty.
ur pic is worth keeping by the side of pillow while sleeping.

Ruky,
for da fact that u are a woman, ur sins here are forgiven.
in ur words, u said, star studded chelsea.
why would u want to qualify them as star studded? what qualification are u giving to barca that is parading the current world best player as well as a runner-up in the name of Etoo who is as well the best striker in the world.
all the same many are out to jealous the chelsea fc. for me am there for our wonder boy(mikel)
in the game of football, especially in the case of chelsea barca 50-50 situation as no one can be too and like one writer rightly mentioned, they are still in the group stage where two of them have chances of progressing.

let us hope that things will not continue like this.
bbc report the situation in abuja as it relates to the okada ban.
commuters are seen stranded in their hundreds waiting for buses and taxis which could be on the way to nigeria from other countries.
the idea of banning okada is good but there must be a better means of transportation otherwise let the okada continue till when we are ready.
the nigerian government is rich let them treat thge citizens as lucky ppl not pretending in as if things are ok in face of other countries.
to me i will call it a bluff that is the idea of banning okada where there is no better alternative.

Utaka miss our last match against niger because of injury, he is missing the second because the machine at nigerian embassy in france is out of service to issue him a new passport booklet.
osaze is missing as a result of injury, mikel was unable to get visa to south africa.
okocha was unable to locate a hotel in london and missed the team in one of our last world cup qualifiers.
equavon could not reach the other players or they were not duely informed hence they are not in our line up.
are we going to wait tll we get into a tight corner till we throw away our reasons and start our dying minute 10-0.
in all ramifications, Uganda has no justificaton whatsoever to be the first in a group with nigeria or are we for another era of reasons?

mula,
i like ur boldness here and i like ur courage.
chidi2chris@yahoo.com, that is my email address. if you wouldn't mind, let's be a good friends.
maturity to me is all about ur mental ability and not necessarily ur numerical age.
see ya

am happy we are all aware of the dangers pose by these politicians both anti and pro objs.
it is very unfortunate that nig has lost her confidence in our called politicians.
atiku and obj are so blinded with their criminal intents that they have decided to shun shame at all levels of their operations.
obj is saying atiku is a thief and that is after 7 yrs six months. atiku is saying ok am a thief but we have been in it all along. none is ready to resign in the heat of all these inhumane acts of stealling.
to Mr. Ribadu, do u need any witness on this.
atiku has succeeded in presenting cheques that are enough to put the duo and their colleagues into a gas chamber.
relatives of these the president and his vice are not worthy to live in nigeria for the rest of their lives-they are surposed to be barnished from nig

jaybaby,
if u complain too much zouzou's action then i will let him come and head ur nose bcs he is very angry this time.
if i was there i will push him back for part two.

odeku,
what do u mean nonesense and baseless?
i am waitng.

Mula,
u sound good, so can u explain how u mean; good sex.
i am talking about the contents of good sex as it relates to u.

frustration as in not been able to be with her as a friend or be like her.
about her hollywood star something, she is about getting involved in a hollywood movie.
for all i care, she is a star and she is very good. for her other life styles, maybe those of u who have interest in marrying her or getting her for ur bros then u can noture her to ur taste.
for the movies, she is among the best but for her personal life, any of the gals here give me the opportunity to compare and contrast?

everybody love good thing but all am saying is the govt are not what to present.
okada or no okada robbery continues in the presence of high unemployment and very bad working conditions.
let there be employment and better working conditions where a worker gets home with enough at least to take care of his/her basic needs.
our security agents are earning less than okada men and u anticipate a safe society.
take ur time and visit officers mess and see how messed the places are.
many are unemployed and must eat hence selfemployment both negative and positive counts.
i like el-ruffai and have nothing against him and his reforms but we are doing wrong things at right times or right things at the wrong time.
in the even of creation as recorded in the bible, God said; let there be light and there was light.
if there is no light in nig all reforms are 0% and output will always be negative.
look at all the progresive economies of the world, there must be light none with light so my brothers and sisters, the problem in naija pas okada but the administration must be doing somethings to mark time and here okada is a victim.
i rest my case.

Koko,
i wish i know ur value as in ur worth and that could have placed me in a very good position to let u know how best to make the gal come calling and singing ur name all the time.
all the same, since u are out to buy the gal's love, then visit coscharis motors and arrange the latest bmw 6 series 4 the babe if u dey well well then ask for the AMG which is the best in the series.
then find out the best boutique within ur environ and then be there with her to enable her pick one or two things.
look out for the best eatries arround u. check out for the latest hand-sets and then ask her to put her sim card in it.
check out the best perfumes and make her wear them.
reach out to her through different greetting programes via media houses and tell her how much u love her.
i bet u brother, by the time u are done with my list, she would want to be in the toilet with u while u,
on the other hand, if she is a naija babe for real, u can as well tell her those things she would want to her. i am talking about language powers.
make her know that in no distance time, u are taking over the ownership of MTN and u will make her ur MD.
tell her about ur shares with the most progressive companies in nig. tell her that Adenuga even ran out of naija because he knows u are angry with him for failing u on business.
make her know how often u meet obj in aso rock, show her obj's no in ur mobile.
pls where plan A and B are not ok by u, i will advise that u be urself and avoid any form of cosmetics life bcs u will always need backup in either situation.
be urself no matter what they say. do the things u can and let her decide if u are good enough otherwise let her try the next door.