₦airaland Forum

SalamRushdie:
My brother it will be same as fueling the current BRT busses pound for pound , do you know how large those batteries are ? I gather the Lagos busses need about 450kwhs to charge fully and and they would only make 3 trips with this before charging ..Trust me it will be the same , no be today I start to compare operational cost of Electric and ICT vehicles

Bro Electricity is cheaper than fuelling in Business industrialization and even Transportation that is why the world is diverting toward alternate energy.

i am not guessing, I agree using electric car by an individual can be very expensive But on a large scale as seen by lagos state govt .. it is cheaper compared to fuelling
Govt is not daft they did there feasibility before bring in those electric Buses.
Even at home, check things you use with nepa light and how much you pay in a month then compare it to how much you spend to fuel & service your gen, considering things you can even use on the gen ... which is cheaper

SalamRushdie:
This is uhuru talk it doesnt work like that , a good electric car willl require between 95 -140 KWH to charge it fully From the Grid , the small generator Nigerians use cannot properly charge an electric vehicle instead it will mess up your battery ..so you need power from the grid or any generator above 60 KVA to properly charge them ..If you do the maths you will be be spending almost the same as fueling your car

You are talking individually, not on Large scale as govt intervention
Like lagos state is about introducing electric buses, whatever cost is incured to power it will be cheaper compared to fuelling cost

Omooba77:
You get the thinking, same government said no more PPRA, yet continue to fix the price, rather than free market based on law of demand and supply......

Is it not when competition exist that PPRA will begins, for now NNPC enjoys are the sole distributors and that is why NMDPRA have come out to offer Licenses to interested investor

Until these private investors come on board and having products to distribute ... PPRA can't be effective

Dottore:
If there is actually deregulation and no more subsidies why then is NNPC fixing the price of petrol?
The smartest thing to do is to either give license of operation to private investors who have interest in refining petroleum products, give them a regulatory guideline of operations and you will see that no petroleum products will sell for more than 150 naira @pump price in this country because of competition.

Becos the present stock in the country was solely imported and distributed by NNPC, until private investors come onboard and start distributing by then NNPC we have no right to fix price

For now NNPC are the sole primary source

nairalanda1:
At the end of the day, the problem is, people want to be paid.

Transport costs are expensive, mind you. Remember our roads are bad, and distances are long.


That's why we have to get the railways fixed and a pipeline network running so that we have reduction in transport costs too.

Bro is it not the same transport cost we incured when trucks move product from depot in Lagos to various destinations,

We know Transportation cost remains but the focus is the Freight cost, excise duties & other cost associated with Importing PMS that will cease, Let them run the calculation for us, these people are unrepentant thieves
When you import a car, imagine the shipment is free, will it still cost you the same amount as the one in the dealer shop

nairalanda1:
There is still the cost of transporting the product from refinery to end user by haulage/trucks.

That costs money. Before, part of the subsidy costs went to paying for such things, now that's ended.

Transportation cost applies locally but what Nigerians are saying is freight cost associated with exporting and importing back our refined product becomes alienated under local production.

therefore you can't minus freight cost from Total cost and still tell us PMS price will still be the same as imported. they aint being sincere

Do you know other cost associated with Freight that will be cut off, and you are telling us all that won't count

1Alex:
So what's the difference between local production and importation?

He did not say why the price will remain same. He only said that the refineries will add cost of refining the product, why will the pump price remain same if the cost of importation is removed?

That is the insincerity on there part, Nigerian don't trust.
What is the essence of having a local refinery to produce locally when the price will be same as imported, maybe he smoked weed before going on the show.

Nigerians must watch these people closely and don't give them breathing space .... they just take Nigerians for fools.

BrownSugq:
LMAO 😂

The comments from Americans are mad and more crazier than what Nigerians are doing with Tinubu.
Go and check Twitter so you can shade tears on his behalf

i won't mind the link, can't find it on trends

Now check for comment on Twitter, are americans using there president to laugh and using it to do skit to entertain the world.

Tinubu hand shake, it was a trend of cruise for over 3 months. God help us in this yeye social media age

N3TRAL:
A registered and popular Newspaper house with specialized editors who have legal backgrounds for courtroom reporting makes a publication and all you can do is to counter it with the Tweet of a stupid girl whose only qualification to have a say on the matter is a blue Tick.

From the story in the screenshot, what the Twitter user described is called "stepping down" a case in legal parlance. Stepping down a case is similar to adjournment. However, the difference is that adjournment means the case will be continued on another day, while stepping down a case means the case will be continued after some minutes or hours the same day.

The court is not a playground. It is a place for serious business. If nobody is ready to address a judge regarding a matter, when the judge says " fix your shit and address me when you're ready later in the day" it means the judge has stepped down the case.

What's the cause of mass hysteria then?

@Djoel a fii igba toh té, you see your ignorant Life outside, you think everyone are 3rd class thinkers like obedient..

I dare you to challenge what he said

EDUECO:
Subsidy removal is good only if it can be transferred to the government workers inform of increase in salary.

The subsidy money paid to government workers inform of salary increase will eventually get to those in the informal sector(bus drivers,market women, manual labourers etc)through the purchase of goods and services by the government workers.

I don't buy the idea of investing the funds realized from subsidy in infrastructure or agriculture sector;most of the funds would be embezzled.

Salary increment alway spikes "INFLATION" in Nigeria even before implementation.

The best solution is for governmen to divert subsidy funds in agriculture, transportation, health sector and see how they can upscale power distribution.

Stable electricity will go a long way to revive the economy

osaroodion:
Watch the video and hear intelligent discourse.

Why not back it up with results he has achieved so far

in governance results is what count not big big grammar,

SalamRushdie:
Yes I saw that and he made a good choice

That is a lesson for you seer, even a 9month pregnancy can not only be scanned after the 1st trimester

Just 4days and you are already drawing conclusions, smh

pacino26:
Is there any filing station currently selling fuel to a select party at a rate different from what I bought few hours ago; 520/L?

This country is ours and the more we encourage bad governance and propagate false narratives like the one pushed to the Frontpage. We are going nowhere.

what you fail to realize is the news you are discrediting on frontpage is from Punchnewspaper.

That the court accepted evidence from obi does not negate some of the evidences were rejected base on discrepancies ..
So none of the story is fake, people just don't want to use there brain anymore ... people just read into news with preset mindset & interest

CaptainFM1:
INEC did not give them all the document they needed for evidence. INEC is acting the script APC prepared. You would expect the umpire to be neutral and unbiased even in court.

INEC should be defending INEC and not APC. It's like a referee already taking side on a football team. APC isn't on trial, INEC is the main party on trial, and because the figures are not adding up even at their end, they refuse to give out the document to protect the results they declared out.

I am glad you brought in the referee,
if a match is ongoing between man city vs man utd and the referee gives a controversial penalty in favor of man utd,
If man city decides to push for officiating review panel ... can the referee defend is decision without appearing as tho he is supporting man utd.

Inec is the umpire that conducted the election Peter Obi is discrediting in court .... Inec reputation is more at stake than even APC.
Only Inec can defend how APC won cos they are the only ones that did the computation & announcement

tonytony208:
The rich man's poverty is the poor man's cause of Thanksgiving.

Think and be rational.

That's why the PAYE taxation strategy came up because their soueces and means differ and both can't be subjected to the same conditions

We don't have to be under the same condition to feel Pain, i don't want to make these a rich vs poor because that is like deviating

However naa everybody go feel the subsidy removal when inflation set in, But instead of spending everyday nagging and complaining as Nigerians we must think of ways out.

The way our lives depend on fuel in Nigeria is despicable, i wish govt can do the right things

tonytony208:
Putting into consideration the unfavorable outcome of the outright removal on the poor helpless citizens and their businesses is not being emotional; it is being realistic.

Why do i feel people bring in the "poor & helpless Nigerians" angle when they just want to be irrational.
A rich man, as businesses, generators and cars to fuel .. are we going to trivalize that, do you know the running cost a business in Nig.
Or you guyz think it is easy to stay at the top, a poor man can decide not ON his i pass my neibor generator or trek, But the rich have to keep up with certain lifestyles.
We all are in it, but should be paramount is just way forward/out ... the nearest relieve to come his Dangote for now but we must not depend on dangote.

However the biggest solution to all these problem is Less dependence on PMS. with stable power supply, train, electric buses, govt can cut the necessity of fuel to Nigerians that will enforce growth

my friend in uk said since he moved in, he has not seen petrol, expect yu have car yu have no business with fuel

tonytony208:
And that our right removal renders businesses and salaries useless. It causes inflation and further makes the lives of the people even more difficult. Those who earn 30k per month now have to spend double on transportation.

Go and ask your family members how it has affected their lives before you talk.

I guess you are one of those idiots being fed by parents. So, you won't be able to use your head for reasoning

See i am an average Nigeria, you don't have to creat a picture of how bad the situation, i lament myself but makes me different from my peer group is, I put emotions aside and think far, most of you are just thinking of now now no country developed today made it that way.
If we have allowed Jonathan remove subsidy completely in 2011 chance we might be enjoying now is high, but we want to eat our cake and still have it, ko le werk
So after 12yrs someone decides to remove the subsidy and we are shouting do it small small .. yorubas will say Ti a ba fii ogun odun pile were ojo wo gan lo fe jaa oja i.e if we spend 20yrs to rehearse madness which year gan gan we wan run enter market


The best form of redrawal is complete removal, the pain might be sharp but it won't last, All i pray for right now is for the govt of the day to be sincere in there endeavour.

I think Tinubu is trying to creat soft landing for dangote, it can only be a relieve when market prices slope from high to low price, if Tinubu leave Nigerians to keep buying fuel at 195 till dangote step in, it will creat serious problem for dangote, but now we are buying 500 if dangote comes with 400 Nigerians will appreciate nd see it as relieve, psychology 401.

foleskay:

There's no way on earth we gonna buy fuel at 500 naira. It's not just possible at this period of financially difficulty nigerians are going thru. Something still has to be done and urgently. Even the middle class HV started parking their vehicles at home. How do u fuel ur tank with 500 naira per litter. FG dey mad??

Tinubu is just too hasty in making that announcement. There should have been a two year programme ahead that would have cushioned d effect..like a transitional program. U can't just wake up and say u removing subsidy and put everyone in jeopardy and mess. This can never happen in Europe..everywhere would have been BUrned down by now.

Tinubu should rescind his decision and roll out a two year subsidy palliative program like increase in minimum wage,salaries and food price control that will mk Mk subsidy removal more tolerable.

Two year transitional 😂 out of four year tenure,
what Tinubu did now was what we should have done 12yrs ago but most of us did not understand then.
The biggest mistake jonathan & Buhari made around subsidy was they try to do it gradually and before they make any process they are pulled back into full subsidy.

For the Genz that might not know, the issue of subsidy removal is at @least 12yrs overdue ... so the issue of partial & gradual will only depict Unseriousness.
The path to greatest is doing that which nobody will dare. think Nigerians, if we dey cry make we dey see as well

Hambivert:
People like Timaya don't have a particular political ideology. All they are interested in is, how it is going to favour them. Once policies stops favouring them, they sparogatively start to cry.
I don't hate him or wouldn't stop to listen to his 'good songs' if he drops any, because, I've come to understand that's who he is
...a leopard with unremovable spots

So you earnestly believe someone like Timaya, with money & affluence will not have fuel in his car ...
Even me wey be poor boy, i get connect for NNPC in my axis during the last fuel scarcity, they update me when they have fuel and time to come. one of the workers will just come collect the car drive in and fuel it for me, i'm off. that is poor me o how much more someone like Timaya
Timaya was just on cruise and the comments show how low average Nigerians reason, i blame poverty

tonytony208:
Since the cushioning will take longer period, shouldn't that make a responsible president make the removal gradual, put the cushioning in place before a total removal of subsidy?

You are a daft goat seeing himself as a lion.

Is that not what GEJ & BUhari tried at the beginning of there Administration and failed ... Nigerians easily forget,
gradual removal of subsidy means Nigeria will still have to be borrowing to pay few thieves benefit immersely
Gradual removal is a clear sign the the Govt is indecisive, that is how investor waiting will see it as.

Indecisive is why Buhari failed from the unset of his administration, circumcission is painful to a child, but our parent paid for it and watch us cry, today how many male child is angry with his parent becos they put him through that pain of circumcission ... just a simple analog

From jonathan adminstration we have being on these issue of Subsidy must go ... now it is gone whether its May or june why should it really matter, the earlier the better they say,

Partial subsidy will still leave room for corruption and if you know Nigeria very well one day the govt we claim it is full subsidy they have being paying when Nigerians thought it is partial subsidy. that happened under Buhari

To avoid stories that touch let it go abeg, let us know our fate and start adjusting

Ifyz0001:
He would have waited for June to come to an end first. And maybe dangote refinery should be producing fuel by then. He should have opened the borders first to get cheaper products first.

Now, no palliatives no nothing. He hasn't even worked on food supplies, transportation, nothing been done...in my area transportation cost has tripled over night.

I don't know what Tinubu is still doing the Emefiele till now, cos that man's policies crippled the economy.

Nigerians, we like suffering ourselves too much, a land flowing with milk and honey. But suffering is a middle name.

Imagine Nigerians moving from 185 up to dangote dictated price, then compare it with

Nigerians moving from subsidized current price to Dangote price ..

Which reasonate Relieve for Dangote and Nigerians

Penguin2:
Subsidy payment did not collapse Nigeria in almost 50 years, then suddenly, if subsidy is paid an hour more then Nigeria will collapse?

Make no mistake, I’m not in support of subsidy retention, I just have issues with how the removal process is being implemented.

And about the budget, supplementary budgeting can be made whether it’s for recurrent expenditure or for capital expenditure.

And talking about waiting for the 10th Senate, not 11th Senate, we are talking about people that will be inaugurated on the 13th of June. Already there’s budgetary provision for subsidy until the end of June. The supplementary budget can be prepared while waiting for their inauguration and sent to them immediately they are inaugurated.

So, what point are you making about me not understanding budget process?

The 3 main candidate agree subsidy must go, for over 13yrs we have being on these issue of subsidy must go ... why acting as tho its a sudden move.

Your response as shown you are naive and don't even know the basis ... it pointless continuing these conversation.

endy69:
Between the Obidients and the batists who is now the zombies? When everyone can see that the implementation is a colossal failure you still support BAT. This is what Buhari supporters did for 8yrs. Enjoy the ride sha

How can you conclude what is suppose to relieve Nigeria economy is a colossal failure in 3days .. is there anyone supporting Peter Obi that have sense at all

3days and these empty skull has written off a govt that has 4yrs

prinsam30:
Use this one very effective

can you point it out on google play ... i am seeing so many

tonytony208:
You mention rhe cushioning and you are still asking me for it. Someone must have replaced your brain with sawdust

Mumu which of the cushion effect i mentioned can materialize in 100days talkless 3days in office.

You are a big fool, why not tell us the cushion effect that will materialize instantly or shut that hole you call a mouth. olodo

Penguin2:
Where will Peter Obi see 50% to pay subsidy?

Have you ever heard of supplementary budget?

And hey, Obi did not say he would not remove Subsidy 100% in the long run. What he was trying to say is that the removal has to be systematic to mitigate against the harsh effects that would come with the removal.

Government first needed to remove about 50% to free up funds for itself. Then issue licenses to private companies to import fuel while supporting both modular and big refineries to come up on stream to make for local sufficiency of the product at which time the government can then remove the remaining 50%.

And I assure you, things wouldn’t have been as chaotic as they are now.

You really need to take a break, i can understand you believe in Peter obi, campaigned and voted for him BUT you see what you are doing now mades no sense

The true test of a man are his actions or record atleast not words, anybody can wake up and say they we turn earth to heaven ... until you do it remains a delusion.

Peter Obi can't make a supplementary budget all becos of a re-current expenditure that that has no provision in the main budget ... how about you educate yourself on what triggers the need for supplementary budget
50% subsidy is counter productive becos marketers will still cashing out and we will still be borrowing ... that is still a burden.

Nigeria economy is on the verge of dying... survival 1st, today Nndpr have offered to issue license to private firms that want to import fuel and already we know Dangote refinery is lined up to meet Nigeria total demand in a day.
A supplementary budget will need senate approval, i.e Peter obi will have to wait for the 11th senate to settle and grant consent, we know how long these things take ... oga scramble these your 50% talk ko add up .. naa ignorance just dey worry you

richidinho:
Tinubu as a president will be a disaster,he has no atom of pity on the masses

He bribed INEC to be dubiously declared as president, what he will do next is to bribe all the institution that will give him problems.

He started it by secretly electing two yorubas as governors forum chairman and vice even before the real governors are sworn in.

Soon you will not hear from the NLC and TUC again

But we are lucky because Peter Obi is coming sooner than expected

In the last 8yrs of Buhari where were NLC and TUC.

ASUU went on strike for 1yr where was NLC

Fuel scarcity last 5month between 22/23 where were NLC and TUC

Nigeria went through the most difficult times of cash scarcity for the 1st time .. where was NLC and TUC.

Oga if you have nothing meaningful to say ... just dey read comment

Beremx:
making a U-turn? Did you check the dates of tweets? No reasonable government should remove subsidy totally owing to the fact that it's going to cause problem

Shebi if that is if Nigeria even has the money to subsidy 50%, most of you don't even know what happening at all ... una own no pass e Lu pee 75 mediocre for social media

Nigeria use over 90% of its revenue to service loan, NNPC is not remitting one kobo and we are literally borrowing to pay subsidy to bunch thieves claiming Nigerians consume 60million barrels .. which is a big fat lie

Buhari administration ensures the 2023 budget has no provision for subsidy beyond june ... So where will Peter Obi steal 50% from to subsidy PMS for Nigeria.

Its either we keep up with subsidy or remove it completely .. partial or 50% will be counter productive on the long run.
its not gonna be easy but if our leaders are sincere we all go smile sooner than we thought

Beremx:
remember he didn't win his first term as governor. He's a supreme court appointed governor last time I checked.

and Peter Obi is what ?? and I am sure you stare at your backside in the mirror a million times before you step out, but just to think b4 you comment hard you.

Peter Obi was impose as a governor in anambra while Datti was booted out senate by a court .. what a pathetic union 🤣

Biodun556:
The refinery will start production in July

Hope you aint refering to dangote refinery, cos that one can bring the desired relieve Nigerians crave.

We need to start relieving ourselves of how much we depend on these thing called PMS ... it's crazy how we depend on fuel in these country

tonytony208:
Those of you who voted for this irresponsible, tactless old drug trafficker, I hope you are now enjoying with ₦700 per litre fuel?

He removed subsidy without any plan to cushion the effect.

Now, the 30k he pays you per month for propaganda will all be spent on transport.

A higher percentage of your parents' salaries will be spent on transportation.

Tinubu only brought bad omen from first day in office-

-fuel hike from 220 to 700
-corpers' allowance is not paid.
-transportation cost increases
-cost of living reduces
-standard of living decreases.

All of these from the first day of swearing him in as president!

The only thing APC can offer is destruction.

Give us one example of cushion effect that can relieve Nigeria within 3days of Tinubu in office

You all keep shouting cushion effect, like an ignoramus, there are only two feasible cushion effect,
1. Fix the refineries and get them working at optimal level, ... can that happen in 6months

2. the other cushion effect is partial subsidy ... is that reasonable with the level of debt Nigeria as incured, even if the money we borrow to subsidy fuel reduces from $10bn to $2bn does it make sense.

You keep shouting cushion effect, what other cushion effect is feasible at these time