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Oh, that explains it...

Nearly ten years later the Dream Master decided I was ready to see the other side of the story.

Once again I found myself in the dream state, hovering over a scene from the distant past.

This time it was ancient Egypt. I saw myself as a cruel slave master during the time some of the smaller pyramids were being built.

I held in my hands life-and-death power over the slaves.

Cont'd

As the days and weeks and months passed by, I assumed the episode was finished and eventually forgot it.

For several years I walked around satisfied that I had been an innocent victim of the Spanish Inquisition.

It gave me a good excuse to think ill of the Catholic Church. Like so many others who fancy themselves victims of life, I had forgotten the very principle of the Law of Karma—we reap what we have sown.

Cont'd

The Dream Master said, "Now let go."

Immediately I slipped free of the body with relief, and was hovering over the scene. "That's enough for now," the Master said, and I woke up.

As I lay in bed, I felt a weight that I'd carried for centuries lift. But what did the Dream Master mean, "That's enough for now?"

Was there to be another visit to that place I'd rather forget forever?

Cont'd

Though I felt like protesting, I knew the Master was right. Unless I did as asked, I could not free myself of my claustrophobia and introversion.

With all the courage I could muster, I slipped down into the body.

The fear was the most intense I'd ever felt! I had to struggle with all my might to calm myself.

It took a long time, and I didn't succeed totally, but apparently it was enough.

Cont'd

Then the Mahanta, the Living ECK Master appeared in my dream.

I was momentarily comforted by his presence, until he asked me to do the unthinkable.

"While I am here, you must reenter that scene. You need to consciously and deliberately go back into that body and get a grip on your emotions.

As soon as you calm yourself, I'll tell you what to do next."

Cont'd

The men bound the heretic hand and foot, then wrapped him very tightly in a blanket.

The crowd carried him to an abandoned stone building, shoved him into a dark corner under the floor, and left him to die.

I realized with horror the man was me. With morbid attachment I watched the man's final days.

He gradually went insane before dying of thirst and utter fear.

Cont'd

Past-life regression through hypnosis did not appeal to me. I decided to put my trust in my spiritual guide, Sri Harold Klemp, the Mahanta, the Living ECK Master.

One night in the dream state I found myself hovering over a disturbing scene. It was a town in fifteenth-century Spain, and a frightened man was being hog-tied by a small jeering crowd.

He had expressed beliefs contrary to the church. Some local ruffians, with the blessing of the church officials, were eager to administer justice.

Cont'd

Healing Past Lives through Dreams
By J. D.


Since early childhood I've had a tendency to panic whenever my arms and legs were confined or I had to squeeze into a tight place. This claustrophobic reaction made me feel introverted. While in the U.S. Navy, to help overcome my fears, I volunteered for submarine duty. I made some progress with my phobia, but not enough to root out the problem.

I knew phobias often originate in past lives, from some unresolved but forgotten trauma. Perhaps I needed to go back in time and uncover the original cause of my fears. But how?

Cont'd

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Hello guys,

Sorry for the tardiness of the link. Service is already on via zoom.

Lovers of God are invited.

See you there.

We were both very happy. She had wonderful experiences in the month she stayed with us.

Then my friend's sister asked her to come stay with her. They mended their relationship, and the sister even offered to take care of her son during his treatments, so my friend could return home to Trinidad.

Before she left, I told her, "So many people are looking for truth. When Soul is ready, you always find the correct next step for you.

I'm so glad you found Eckankar, and you will know when it is right to tell others about it.

The end

Source: https://eckankar-hu.org/Harold/Story03.html

She said she didn't know why she wanted to tell me about this incident.

During the day, my friend mentioned the man with glasses several more times. It seemed to fascinate her.

Before we went to bed, I told her that the Living ECK Master, Sri Harold Klemp, used to wear glasses up until about six years ago.

I had a photograph of Sri Harold which I showed her. When she saw it, she said, "This is the man I saw seven years ago!"

Cont'd

I supplied her with a book on Eckankar by Sri Harold Klemp, which she began reading.

On the third day, she came to me and said, "Seven years ago, I was lying in bed, when a man with glasses appeared to me. I got scared and screamed.

My son came and asked what was the matter. As soon as he spoke the man disappeared. My son looked around and couldn't find anyone."

Cont'd

The next morning she came to me and said, "Bimla, last night when you were talking about Eckankar I was worried about your sanity.

But the experience I just had proved to me that these teachings are true and helpful.

"I closed my eyes and tried your exercise. I had a past-life recall that explained why my sister is angry with me right now.

Tell me more about Eckankar. Do you have a book I can read?"

Cont'd

"I Met Him Seven Years Ago!"

By Bimla Amar


A friend recently visited from Trinidad. She was supposed to stay with her sister, but for some reason, her sister was angry with her, so she stayed with us.

She had come to London to get medical treatment for her son. The night she arrived, we sat up talking. After a while she asked me about my spiritual path, Eckankar. I described a simple spiritual exercise in which one can chant the word HU (pronounced hue) for peace of mind and expanded awareness in life.


Cont'd.

And so you can pray to God. Just say, "I want the truth," or "Dear God, give me knowledge, wisdom, and understanding." But the greatest thing you can ask for is, "Dear God, give me love."

Knowledge, wisdom and understanding are only attributes of God. However, if you have love, you have everything.

We first seek the highest, most divine, most holy part of something, which is nothing but our own inner being. And with that comes divine attributes and spiritual freedom, which baptism can never give.

When you ask for the truth from a pure heart, the Divine Spirit takes you one step closer to home, to God.

- Sri Harold Klemp The Spiritual
Exercises of ECK

Show me Love


If you don't know anything about ECK, your main tool for this work you have to work with might be prayer - that's how you communicate with God.

If you are seriously interested in the truth, knowing who you are and why you belong here, ask God in your prayers: "Show me the truth."

If your heart is pure, the Lord will bring truth into your life. However, don't expect it to perform to your expectations; maybe it will be different.

Maybe as a gift of a book, or through a person who tells you a small step you need before you can take the next step.

Cont'd

Praying in the ECK way

There are many people who do not pray to God properly. They want others to act according to what is good for them, so they want to influence them with prayer and bring about their own will.

It's like when a basketball team prays before a game, "God, help us win." Meanwhile, the opponent requests the same. What kind of prayer is this?

When you ask for God's help, you can say: "I am in this situation, this is my problem, I want your help, in a way that suits you". Such is the attitude of an ECKist.

In the meantime, you will see what you can do for the cause; how could you solve your own problem?

When you practice this, you learn, develop, and gain experience in order to become a mature Soul - one who can be God's collaborator.

- Sri Harold Klemp The Spiritual
Exercises of ECK

exotique1fy:
Yeah. Your activities here have a tinge of evangelistic zeal.

Lol.

To keep the thread visible on the first page, I figured I have to keep updating.

Nairaland was where I know of Eckankar hence...

Eckankar is the last thing you could ever evangelize about. It's not a product that 'sells' like that. It's practically a no-go area and many won't touch it with a long stick.

There are some however that may be ready for the teachings. This thread is there for them. They'll make the connection immediately.


Check out the story of the guy who met Rebazar Tarzs in a train physically on page 3 of this thread, especially how he was feeling the vibe of the book he was reading (The Flute of God)

That's an example of a ready Soul. Such things connects with them.


Think of this as a publicity instead for such people only.

exotique1fy:

Surprised?

exotique1fy:
What about your personal experience?! Believe it or not, it is good to share such when proselytising. Don't you think?

I did elsewhere and hinted at it on page one I think. If you read the Caveat on page 1 also, there is infact no intent to convert people here.


Proselytizing I am not. For instance, not all who even those believe these guys exists have met them, at least not in occasions they can say "I met so and so Master".

Thanks

exotique1fy:
Is this your personal experience or the experience of someone else?

Hello,

This one and the others I have shared are the experience of others. Thanks.

Then in February of 1985, I attended my first Eckankar gathering at Port Harcourt. I read brochures and attended several ECK activities. Later that day, I decided to follow the path of Eckankar.

It did not occur to me that my experience with death was linked to Eckankar until recently. Yet it came as a fire into my heart when I read the ECKANKAR Journal.

There I saw a picture of the Mahanta, Sri Harold Klemp. The slim man that saved my life was the Living ECK Master!

The Master was with me and protected me even before I knew about Eckankar. I know the love and protection of the Mahanta is very real.

The End
Source: https://eckankar-hu.org/Harold/Story06.html

Actually, I knew I had gone into the beyond during this experience. I never forgot the face of the white man who sent me back to life, but I refused to tell anybody about the experience.

In Africa, we believe that ancestors can sometimes send children, who meet untimely deaths, back to life. Folklore has it that the child then owes some kind of debt to the Soul on the other side.

I thought this was what happened to me, but I did not believe I had ever been related to a white man. How did this come about? The question repeated itself to me many times, but no answer came. I never asked anybody because I knew they couldn't give me a satisfactory answer.

Cont'd.

When I finally traveled back to Port Harcourt, my wife could not believe I was alive. She'd had an experience the night I blacked out.

She had awakened to the sound of someone knocking on the door. But when she opened it no one was there. It must have been a dream, she said to herself.

She walked outside to calm herself and heard my voice calling her. Seeing no one, she ran back inside the house full of fear.

Later that night I appeared to her in the dream state. I told her certain people were behind my death and warned her to look at the behavior of these people during the funeral arrangements.

She even remembered seeing the coffin that contained my body.

Cont'd.

When I woke up, I was told I had just spent the previous ten days in a coma. The hospital had refused my body and sent me to another clinic, believing that all hope was lost.

The clinic in which I found myself was a teaching clinic, and the doctors were only studying my body.

They had cut the toe of my right leg—the only place where a single vein was still alive—and set up an intravenous drip. They did not expect me to revive.

I stayed in the clinic an additional three days before I was discharged. The doctors said my recovery was truly amazing—an act of God. Friends and relatives in Lagos began to call me by a different form of my name to signify my rebirth into life.

Cont'd.

Sent Back to Life
By G. A. P.


I was traveling on business from Port Harcourt to Lagos, Nigeria, when I woke one morning with a severe illness. I had the hotel call an ambulance, which rushed me to the nearest hospital. I was explaining my condition to the doctor when suddenly everything went black.

I awoke in a dream. I was in a very long, fast-moving line. All the people were passing through a checkpoint. But when my turn to pass came, I was pulled aside and sent back by a slim white man.

Cont'd

triplechoice:
Who are the scientists please?

What did they conclude after the study?

Any link to the study report to enable one confirm your latest claim?

Because from what I know, nothing has been concluded yet in the main body of the sciences.. Scientists don't yet accept that consciousness can be separated from the brain.

I hope you provide proof this time around so that this claim of yours doesn't go the way of the others none of which you have yet to substantiate .

There is no such a thing as "main body of science". There is no "box" as it where. It is a 'free-for-all' towards breaking new frontiers of knowledge. The box way of doing things is an illusion animated by Interest Groups who you may be referring to as "main body of science".

Create a thread today. This one is for the supermen of the universes of God!

You will get your references. Good luck understanding them.

SisterAnn:
Wow! Thank you.
I guess that's the reason why it's said God is love. I can also imagine this "love" is not the amorous kind of love, but like agape love.

You got it spot on, God is love!!!

If one understands this statement that God is Love, they will shake their heads at anybody who thinks God for one moment can be angry or provoked to anger. The agape love is a higher form of it indeed. The only thing that makes it higher however is because it is not partisan or conditional, neither is it degradable to anger where it ceases to be love. It remains Love no matter what you take or add from and to it. This is what purity means.

I doubt we humans, at least majority of us, are capable of this kind of love. Except of course, liberated humans.
By liberated humans, I mean the ones not encumbered by the issues and limitations of this physical life characterized by frustrations, poverty, bigotry, covetousness etc.

Incidentally our whole body is fabricated to be capable of this love. We are loving beings. For life and existence to be possible in this planet, this Love gets broken down to lesser forms like flesh and blood.

Think of this breaking down like how wood is broken down to achieve different forms like chairs, spoons, doors etc which are very important while the true nature remains wood. Lets say an arrow created from wood is anger, and a door is amorous love and chair conditional love. So all those are lesser ways this Love had been broken down to.

Man then is sent here to work himself up to BE because that's what he is in the first place. The physical body and electric bodies are what makes him feel anger, pain, jealousy. He does this because his consciousness is hinged on these lesser bodies.

These so-called Eck Masters are nothing more than those who have embodied this force called love. They care not about how good or bad you are or your religious whatnots. all they care for is help you open this heart of a thing, from there, everything good and righteous is possible. It also becomes possible to visit the heavens even before one dies.

Since we live here however, one finds that this show and application of love must be done with 'discrimination'. The law of economy has it that you give warm love to people in your family and give detached love to those outside. There are those who will abuse it, so you apply discrimination keep your cool instead.

I can imagine if I should ask futher what I must do to experience this "love", you'd ask me to "pick up my cross" and "follow you" because it's not going to be an easy road.

I wish I was ready 😁

Lol, when there is love, you wont even know you're carrying any cross. Love practically cancells crosses and gives you a heart breaming with bliss. Love beats Karma, this is a law of creation.

The first and last commandment of getting and being this love is simply by giving it without expecting to receive it back (conditions).

A simple way is to do one thing daily purely out of love. Another way is to do one thing but pour all the love you can muster into it like washing your plates and doing it as if you are into a loving romance with the very plate your holding. If its cooking, muster all the love you have and cook those things. Watch any body who eats it. They will pick the love! Do not do this however to influence anyone. Your job is just to pour love into the food and that only.

New 'electric wires' will form in your brain and heart which this force called love would begin to flow. As you do more, it will upgrade to higher voltages, so much that you would be Love itself. Its very very much possible

we start it small small and build up.

triplechoice:
I will come back to respond to this later.

In the meantime you still don't understand what's veridical perception during NDE.

That's why you struggle to understand the article . Please do some further readings on the subject.

Finally ,nobody was made to identify pictures. as you put it. It's not possible to make an unconscious person during cardiac arrest to do such.a thing. They were only ask what they experienced during that period to see if it comes confirms with what was going on in that environment during that unconscious state when they are not supposed to have any kind of awareness.

Read what you wrote again and ask yourself, how is it possible for the researchers to make people identify pictures while outside their bodies? How can they see they're outside their bodies to start asking them that?

Read the article again.

Please do create a thread on this and invite me. Scientists have long done justice to the matter of NDEs or OBEs as far back as the 70s. These guys (AWARE11) are rather elementary comparably. Thanks.

SisterAnn:
Hello. Please can you you shed more light on this?

Hello Sister,

We humans tend to understand love to be "I love you" and when we "show love to someone". Quite true in a sense.

Love is actually more like a 'force' if we may call it so. "I love you" is what happens after this force passes through the heart of the person saying so, or it makes the experiencer of the force to do a charitable act or be empathic generally.


This force is what was used to create creation. Its the cement of creation literally. If Love was a language, we would say it is this language that was used to create anything and everything.

Creation then answers to Love. In the human body, the primary channel for it is the heart. Asides from the heart doctors see, there is an energetic one which we use to feel this force.

If you imagine anything and fill it with this sweet force, your imagination will get life. This is the breath of life.

Most times, an open hearted person easily gets things they need. Not 'everything', because that would bother on covetousness which is not Love, contentment and such are how this force makes someone to feel, reason and behave.


Thanks.