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FlipGamBino:Sorry for the delay in replying. It wasn't a typo at all. Your "HEU" I think is OK if it has to de with the phonetics of HU...so it's pronounced like "Hue" and yes, "Heu" is also a same way to pronounce both. Let the sound come from the belly, with a voice slightly deeper than the speaking voice. Stretch it until you feel your navel slightly press towards your spine.If you pronounce HU in a long drawn-out manner, you get to empty the air in your bowels achieving what you prescribed. Note that in Eckankar, the goal is making contact with the light and sound of the life force aka Eck. So attention is placed on the spiritual eye (Tisra Til), then you look to see a light, your Master appearing their and hearing an actuall sound from within. We are not concerned with the opening of the lower chakras, nor clairaudience or any of the psychic channels. You can get everything if your tenth door ( The Spiritual Eye) is open. That is the window for soul, and as soul, all other things will be added to you. Psychic practices leads you to nought spiritually. Thanks. |
chalantmike:Go well sir. |
chalantmike:I believe this will be educative for you seeing you rely on the Internet for your info. Here are the classic names or chant for the 4 lower worlds from the earth upward. Alayi (Physical plane) Kala (Astral Plane) Mana(Causal) Aum/Om (Mental Plane) Baju (Etheric Plane) Now these are all charged names/words for use if you will have to do on any of the Planes concerned. Now the Physical plane and it's stars, Planets etc is like a tiny dot compared to the Astral realm. On the Astral Plane you can literally find the best and most Sci-fi of anything you can think of; and the Physical Plane plus the best things in it are like a child's trial at invention... this phenomenon of comparative grandeur happens in all planes as you proceed upward... Aum/Om is the sound you hear if you are only on the third realm. The Mental plane is a member of the lower worlds--a world of definiteness, limitation and relative beauty (despite that this is where the beautiful and grand Christian heaven is located). It is a Negative world or place. This is the source of all metaphysics, magic, religion, Source of all formal, informal education, morals and most importantly the Mind. It is also where it STARTS AND ENDS for 99% for those caught in the Matrix World (lower worlds). Aum is a very low-key chant in the scheme of things. Now a great deal of things must happen for the very few who can penetrate beyond your Aum plane...only 'sub-supermen' (spiritualy speaking) can, and only one person can grant you access or entry to the Fifth plane (Chant is "Sugmad" .The power or force or light on just the fifth realm alone can burn off all creations of the mind ( the lower worlds) talk more of the other higher world's above it where you go further accross other unspeakable planes to reach the realm the HU originates. Part of the duty of the ruler of the Mental Realm downward is to act as a 'transformer' for this immense force of Eck flowing down. yhu should know also that the Eck set recycle their religious notion from Eastern Religion, most western religion recycled Eastern religion .Just like you, I had traversed almost about all online pages where 'Speculators of Eck' and it's attackers dwell. It always is a speculation unfortunately although very important for Eck. Eastern religions, Western religions, ALL RELIGION, Formal and informal education is instead a brake-out of the Eck. What is the Eck? It is the Holy Spirit, what is the Holy Spirit? It is the ECK of which the study and Discipline is Eckankar ("Ankar" meaning "path of" ![]() If you are concerned about the modern-day founding of Eckankar, well all the various adulterations, of the orginal teachings have got to be compiled back to the original and Eckankar must resurface again after it had to go underground due to the persecution of the church and fall of the consciousness of people back then.. Just like if Jesus comes back to check how things are going, you guys will likely get a spanking as he did in the Temple Ultimately truth is truth and not a property of any religion or thing. It simply exists, this is Eck!! |
Wilgrea7: About not remembering what was said, I can relate to that. The case mostly is that the most important ingredient or message is passed to Soul which isn't in the language of Mind or what you can make sense of. It's one of the reason the mind shields the memory. There is a faculty of the mind that acts as a protector against immense light (truth) which could shock you...it's that part that makes you deny a fact that may shock you. It is a blessing and a curse (if they truly exist). It is responsible for protecting your ego and it also veils memory of dreams. It's known as the Sensor. |
Teensway:There is no Eckankar HU or way of doing it ![]() It's simply pronounced "Hue" and sung in a long drawn-out manner and attuning or becoming the sound--thats it. |
Teensway:Definitely yes it is Sri Gopal Das. Recently a Catholic church in the US learned of the HU and are using it. I have a moslem friend here who uses it. To keep people in check, the HU was removed from the bible at a time. If you study the early church, you find they program it to see that not only does Jesus is "the only way to God" but also Reverend Fathers accept and perform a mediation also. HU cuts across these mediums and links you to God directly and your experience becomes your command and you may achieve what a pope or a Daddy GO will not achieve in several life times of seeking truth or God! One the purpose of the HU is to awaken the God knowledge ALREADY within you. Thanks. |
Teensway:" Eckankar chant" lol, no, it is not! That's like saying truth is an Eckankar stuff...it's hilarious. HU is actually the sound which is the fabric of all creation, that is if you investigate all creation in a lab, the purest and most important sound you will get is the HU...am sure you must have begin to find that actually, light and sound is the core of everything. Of all the sounds you will ever be given or that exists, HU is the most powerful, it is the name of God in a sense even though God is nameless. If Christians know of it as it where, am sure we won't hear word again...but you don't use it to manipulate anything or anyone, just use love.I met mine in a dream while I was about 7 or 8. He has a semblance of the white man's version of Jesus and I thought I met Jesus. I was discouraged by my step mum cos she thought seeing Jesus in your dream is an omen of death. He had been with me as an inner voice whom I consult. He thought me the use and place of imagination in life, provided me top notch security, directed me to the churches I should go and so on. When the time was right, he led me to Eckankar, I discovered he was infact an Eck Master, I saw his picture in one of the Eck books. If you don't know, you might bow down and worship him thinking you met God, but Eck Masters never accept praise nor worship of any manner. He teaches at a temple of Golden Wisdom in the city of Askleposis on the Astral plane. His primary goal of course is helping people unravel the mystery of God. He guides you to someone on earth who has the sole power and responsibility of awakening the innate qualities of God in you. One point is we have all been students of these spiritual teachers in this life, so we naturally are inclined towards these things and they (Masters) connect with us again but only when we are ready. Some people even come back with spiritual abilities or talents and laymen will call them favoured or blessed, no! God is not partial! You earn what you deserve and all is actually your own doing. If Mozart is to reincarnate again, no one has to teach him the piano... PS: I was at lost (despite meeting him in my dream) as to if truly he was my guide or its another Master, I used the exercise I gave you and got a confirmation. If you are ready indeed, you will meet your guide or get one. *there are different grades of guides! |
Teensway:If you call all those entities "spirits" fine... If your conscious adventure in life isn't limited to earth or the physical plane, of course your the list of your contacts extends to 'people' in other places and dimensions ranging from the earth, planets and other dimensions. Although there is no 'good' or 'bad' in the real sense, your experience with them is the judge. A good tree should bear good fruit. He told me a word, when i checked it on google it was a bangladesh word that meant "sir". Please to the spiritualist i'm confused, i'm i making this up or is it real? The girl seems to be friendly and she answers my question accurately. Are this two the real spirit guides while the rest are object of my imagination? Or are they all spirit guides?If you must benefit yourself, contemplate on the term 'imagination' you seem to down-play It...as how they say "it's just your imagination". Well: no one can imagine or think outside of reality or creation! It means whatever thing you can imagine is you viewing or looking at it, put some emotion and focus to it and you magnetize it the more!!! So is imagination that unrealistic as people think? Now if you got friends on high, that does not transcend to them being spiritual guides. "Spiritual guides" should be "Spiritual guide" if the broth must not be spoilt. A spiritual guide as I hinted earlier should lead you to something worthwhile. There is an exercise to try if you wish to find who actually is your Spiritual guide: chant HU a thousand times in one sitting if you got the discipline. Further if you happen on an entity in your dreams posing to be some one, chant HU at them, if the stay, you got a pal, else they will dissipate! Thanks. Cc: Billyonaire chieveboy bendoic OtemAtum HenryDion Fratermathy Smartn09 e.t.c Thanks.[/quote] |
skillful01:You are welcome! Looking at meditation closely, it is technically a situation of sitting and "waiting for the angel of the Lord to come and stir the pool for you so you can jump in and be healed", ahead of meditation you have contemplation. Meditation is an attempt to still and silence the mind, which is technically not possible. Technically the target of meditation is attaining focus on a 'point of view'...it is passive. Contemplation is actively focusing on a 'point of view', ruminating on it and viewing it from all possible angles and achieve ONEment with it...like achieving onement with your spouse, mate, or Subject till they become part of you...till it reach a stage you can 'profess' that Subject, principle etc. After you've done that, you are a Master or 'Professor' of that. Mind Stuff and the art of becoming. Addition: To contemplate, you've got to find view points ( contemplation seeds) like: "Soul has no shadow", "there is no distance, no separation, no up, no down, no front no back..." and any subject, adage, etc. Thanks. |
skillful01:I think I stumbled on this term in one of Dan Brown's book. You stand a chance of being misled though: Noetic science and people generally conclude that the mind is capable of knowing. It's not so. The mind does not and cannot know. It is just a super instrument of knowing which functions as a middle point for the knower--You (Soul). The distinction is very important cos one needs to REALIZE the true nature of the mind before you can master it. It is a machine and Soul is the operator. This matters cos the thread deals with mind stuff...understand the mind and you can skip all the rituals and go to the point. The distinction is same as concluding that the human eye is what sees (biologicaly), is it true? |
Congrats sire |
Soul is spirit. The only difference is in the confusion of assuming both are separate. Soul is an individualised Spirit. It is an atom of spirit which got individualized. Spirit classically is that NOthing which originates from the pure world's (The Fifth Heaven) where one finds no duality (no female or male, no up or down, no going or coming, no beginning or ending etc). This world(Fifth heaven) is the true home of souls where soul exists in its purest forms without mixture with matter (Mind, astral body etc) there, Souls exists there as spirits. Ghost, Angels, demons, Lords of universes etc are not spirits...the catch is that humans are souls but you can't refer to humans as Spirits...even though we are--Souls! Consequently, "spirit" is an adjective that is mistakenly used as a noun. Thanks. |
mztakayswitch3:Well you can search "reincarnation" on youtube. As for the kids stuff, it's a fact that babies do remember their past lives up to the age of six and formal education and societal influence veils that memory the more...or are chastised by parent and religion against it and taken for the famous 'deliverance'. It explains nightmares and laughters of new born babies, how could they know of laughter or horror? Why I said you shoukd ask kids in a friendly way is to help you hear from someone who actually remembers a past life and couldn't have just formulated a grand story... False teaching thrived when they where no avenue for people to interact and share their stories. In one thread here on NL, some naughty guy said Moses would have reached Israel from Egypt quickly had he used Google Maps...the statement shades light on the state of people who wrote some of our Holy books....they couldn't know better do not have the wherewithal to share experiences like we presently do. Thanks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wvbEQytuQk |
mztakayswitch3:Yep, sure! If you are serious about knowing if it's true or not, you can start your research on youtube. Also if you got a kid or are close to one...that's if their is a kid who you have a close connection with (who doesn't fear you)...you can have a chat about what there where "when they were big". You can explore past life's also in dreams. Cheers! |
LoJ:Am actually concerned you didn't understand the post you quoted. I also doubt I made a definitive declaration of the OPs state as "spiritual" though everything else traces it's roots to the spiritual, there by making everything else spiritual. Ultimately I think the situation is a case of a haste to define my posts...if you factor in the statement about nothing being special or not special... |
LoJ:Talking about rationality, the statement you quoted happens to be the most 'un-esoteric' of my post. Don't numbers represent value generally speaking? Won't every one find more to 'general' and 'normal' stuff if they go deeper? They would...bout everything else especially the most "normal" and rational ones!!! "Solid elements": I for one have had too many experience of 'un-solid elements' and solid elements. I got the principle, so I can't help it. To go with what only the eyes can see is to live life asleep. Einstein etc who made efforts esoterically (which benefits all today) was alive when he lived. "Superficial" is a relative term. So factoring the fact that all things are dependent on the beholder just as your signature explains, it is a rule that nothing is extra-ordinary, nothing is special, no brain is playing anything, nothing is invisible...the list is endless. It all depends on the person involved. I think from here, you can see the distinction between esoteric and 'rational thinkers'. |
@Wilgrea7 Numbers basically represent value, but what value? The number termed 'PHI', the Fibonaci sequence, PI etc couldn't have been coincidental... There is a thread about recursions between nature and artificial creations by Billyionaire, see what you can find there. This is the deal though: whatever you see, say a phone has about 4 dimensional aspect. The dimension where everything falls into numbers, shapes, signs, formula, geometry is the fourth dimension aka the Mental plane. If your mind "plays tricks on you" as Seun puts it ( Although technically impossible), by bringing forth numbers, it's a case of having more access to a part of your mind (brain) at a deeper core...You are getting mental. That's, you are operating closer to the core of objects you relate with. This can be helpful if you find balance as this also could unbalance you..thats when you are 'mental' indeed as in the 'kolo' type. In essence, all am saying is: whatever a computer does (refer to recursions in nature...) at a certain aspect of it, everything is a series of 0s and 1s. Someone who knows them is a wizard or geek. The OP's case is a mental case with possibility of genuity and 'kolo'...such is the case with everything else though. Consequently this means there is a number combo for beauty, prosperity, health, spirituality, death etc. Those who took the pain to study and understand numbers use it to their advantage for it is part and parcel of creation! Number is an element of creation...it's just a part of many. Thanks. |
oaroloye:Oh wise king Solomon. Karma in English terms means 'Cause and Effect'! And of course is physical, Astral, causal and Mental but never can be spiritual ( owing to proper definition of "Spiritual" .Cause and Effect or Karma is the Law that makes physical movement and phenomena possible... taking one of your legs forward is karma, breathing in is karma which requires you to breathe out etc... |
Igerizee:Sorry to answer you and anyone concerned: If you check the whole of the Cosmos, the entity called Jehovah is proportionally the same person know as Satan... ...and No! He is doing his God-given duty and not the 'black sheep'... , although his job mainly deals with being the 'black sheep' in reality! He is the 'Vice Chancellor' of the lower world's ( Mental, Causal, Astral and Physical worlds.) Whatever he does forms part of his duty! Thanks. |
Wilgrea7:Sleep is OK. The spiritual walk starts from sleep to wakefulness, ignorance to enlightenment... Heaviness? Yea, it's so! How do you get lighter? By inclination to divine things, in other words: raising your consciousness! How? A *vibrate at the highest frequency possible. How? Think goods thoughts, try better habits and diet, sing or chant charged words, find someone or something to love unconditionally. * How to remember dreams (suggestions): have dream agenda for each night after singing the HU...could be dreaming about meeting someone you lost contact with...meeting your proposed Mate...just something fun and not 'hardcore'...the big deal about dream is ability to be awake or conscious while dreaming. It's important if you like to meet an Eck Master, understand that they come by invitation only. This is cos there is a rule that no one must interfere with any one's space without permission to do so. Interference involves praying for someone, etc without that persons permission. A desire to meet any of them is good. They don't chose between 'good' or 'bad' person, nor do they rate your righteousness or religion...they just love people and be of help in a manner you can accept. Thanks. |
iRyan: no, the continuity you hear is as a result of many people singing it together. You actually take a deep breath, and exhale with the Hu. Note that the max time of singing the Hu in contemplation is 30 min. If you are aware of a spot known as the 'spiritual eye' ( position of the pituatary gland), put you attention there...as in just exist there and no where else...not even any part of your body...look to see light or any of the Masters appearing. Be adventurous about it! Thanks. |
iRyan:Fill yourself with love and ask one to meet you. I cannot over-emphasize the benefits of singing HU before your sleep and after you wake. It can spiritualize your consciousness and lift you to the Eck Masters orbit. Meanwhile, read about them here or see if you had met one before...or you feel attached to one...a sign the Master is actually an old friend of yours (From a past life...) Thanks: http://www.eckankar.org/Masters/index.html |
Billyonaire:That's is: Balance! Chasing coins is as legit as spirituality. If one can't take care of himself 360-wise, hardly can they be helpful out there. You bring a very important icon of spirituality--its finding balance in all we do. Actually the force or power called Eck is the point where ther negative and positive force are in balance... |
Billyonaire:Lol, you ate just enjoying the sweat of your labor, past-life and present. Looking at your posts, one can easily notice that you've rub shoulders with the Spiritual Travellers... Enjoy ![]() |
I have been thinking of telling you about the subject matter without erring... I know people in Eckankar who could virtually turn this planet upside down but won't... I know people in Eck who could dissipate the veil of ignorance and illusion with just a click of their fingers... I know people in Eck who can work miracles beyond what had ever been recorded as miracle... But these people won't! They will never do so for it is against the spiritual law--the law of Silence, Economy, Consciousness etc. As a matter of fact, they will even endure hardship, hunger, persecution just to lay example...like not commanding fire or angels to consume their 'enemy' when provoked even though they very much can Thank God for this. Ignorance or illusion is created or happens for a reason and we in Eckankar know that God ITself permitted them (including the devil or whatever) to exist. They exist to temper and purify Soul. Just in case, their is nothing sinister about this decision...if you think other-wise, then ask your God (who isn't sinister) to tell you his location...or just request any info you think is covert ![]() Anyone can get whatever information they want though...the requirement is to be worthy of it, then earn it! |
I lost count of mine freeDR:Ah bros, this is not entirely true na. No man can read over a hundred books without trully loving to read! They can't go beyond a paragraph...you can confirm it here on Nairaland. There tones of places to get free books especially if you're 6...even as an adult. |
I tend to use my hair cream for on my hand and legs...nothing on my body |
Learner! |
Well....am a reader Not a bad story! |
humans have been more advanced than this... #Atlantis dont quote me. Am not around |
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lol, no, it is not! That's like saying truth is an Eckankar stuff...it's hilarious. HU is actually the sound which is the fabric of all creation, that is if you investigate all creation in a lab, the purest and most important sound you will get is the HU...am sure you must have begin to find that actually, light and sound is the core of everything. Of all the sounds you will ever be given or that exists, HU is the most powerful, it is the name of God in a sense even though God is nameless. If Christians know of it as it where, am sure we won't hear word again...but you don't use it to manipulate anything or anyone, just use love.
cos it made more sense to me dat d devil was also d son of God and d God we serve was also d son of jehovah, dont tel me am ryt 