₦airaland Forum

abagoro:
I have never believed he stole money from our tiny oil income of then. Oil was bare 9 to 15 Dollars and he did the same number of roads done so far as well as built schools in every community in Nigeria.

This guy is always hilarious. So because oil was $15 dollars when Abacha was ruling he didn't steal?
What about Babangida who was in charge when oil was $10-$12 dollars a barrel, he is probably homeless now because he didn't steal abi?
Abagworo, you and Chino must have skipped a few classes before your elementary 6, because your arguments always show loop holes in your reasoning.

Now going by your argument, if Abacha didn't steal as you would have us believe,the Swiss banks, Jersey banks, Liechtenstein banks and Cayman Island banks that have been seizing loot deposited by Abacha and repatriating them to Nigeria, must have simply been dashing Obasanjo and Jonathan free money in their bank accounts abi?

lolz.....


http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/172273-states-jersey-return-315-million-abacha-loot-nigeria.html

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27926100

http://www.360nobs.com/2014/08/u-s-to-return-480-million-of-abacha-loot/

http://africansuntimes.com/2014/08/480-million-looted-gen-sani-abacha-seized-u-s-returned-nigeria/

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/abacha-looted-2b-u-s-report/

abagoro:
I have never believed he stole money from our tiny oil income of then. Oil was bare 9 to 15 Dollars and he did the same number of roads done so far as well as built schools in every community in Nigeria.

This guy is always hilarious. So because oil was between $40-$55 dollars in 1997 when Abacha was ruling he didn't steal?
What about Babangida who was in charge when oil was $10-$12 dollars a barrel, he is probably homeless now because he didn't steal abi?
Abagworo, you and Chino must have skipped a few classes before your elementary 6, because your arguments always show loop holes in your reasoning.

So if Abacha didn't steal as you would have us believe,the Swiss banks, Jersey banks and Cayman Island banks that have been seizing loot deposited by Abacha and repatriating them ti Nigeria must have simply been dashing Obasanjo and Jonathan free money in their bank accounts abi?

lolz.....

Abagworo:
I sense you are rather a pro-Jonathan than pro-Nigeria hence your approach to obvious issues. Obasanjo was corrupt but never lavished Nigeria's money and never condoled open corruption from even his close friends. There was no subsidy fraud and our debts were paid off under him. Compare with today and be the judge.

I don't live in Nigeria full time, but i can tell you that all the murderous bigots APC have put forth will make them lose again.
Nigeria is one country where people reason via sentiment. Although i personally like Buhari, but people don't like him for certain misspeaks of the past and he will lose again.

Now Jonathan isn't that good. But he is better than the devils who are the alternative.

Are you for real asking me to compare Obasanjo to Jonathan?? You can very well ask me to compare Abacha and Babangida to GEJ!!!
Jonathan not only trumped these men, he is also very clean. Obasanjo that spent billions of dollars of state resources on a farm purported to be built for Nigeria and suddenly renamed the same farm "Otta farms" and nothing happened. Jonathan cannot even give his old school friend a contract while Obasanjo disbursed a whopping $16 billion dollars to his cronies pretending they were going to build the NIPP. Or is it the PTDF which Atiku exposed the fact that he had used funds there to buy his girl friends houses around the world?

My problem with Jonathan is that he is a pleaser. He would not personally steal, but was afraid to confront powerful foes that did because he wants to avoid confrontation. If GEJ steal a millionth of what Obasanjo stole, he would have been impeached and hanged.

See the journal how Obasanjo stole your $16 billion dollars and still walks around a free man issuing threats to innocent people who dared to speak up !

http://thestreetjournal.org/2012/05/revisiting-the-power-sector-probe-how-obasanjos-men-paid-16-billion-for-darkness/

http://allafrica.com/stories/200803140806.html

spyder880:
New Haven junction, on the road to Abakaliki express. ....

Wow!

Abagworo:
I am not an APC member. Whatever I write is verifiable truth. Telecoms viz MTN et al was privatised by Obasanjo and so was our banking, stock exchange, Nafdac, EFCC and others revolutionised. They are there. I have always been an Obasanjo supporter as well as Buhari and Abacha.

http://www.ocnus.net/artman2/publish/Africa_8/How_Yar_Adua_Cancelled_Sale_of_Refineries.shtml

http://www.thenationonlineng.net/archive2/tblnews_Detail.php?id=25845

If this is waht you calle Obasanjo's "legacy" then shame on you.
If Obasanjo sold the refineries to his cronies in order to use FG money and fix it, then have his fronts operate it and milk Nigerians through it, Yar'adua was 100% right to cancel such illegal transfer of our national heritage to faceless people.

Obasanjo was the MOST corrupt Nigerian that ever walked this earth, even his fellow yoruba acknowledge that much. Obasanjo was a curse to Nigeria. Only someone with demented hatred for Nigeria's prosperity will say they like Obasanjo after all the evil he orchestrated.

http://www.dailytimes.com.ng/article/obasanjo%E2%80%99s-govt-opened-floodgate-corruption-%E2%80%93-falae-0

http://www.gamji.com/article6000/NEWS7044.htm

spyder880:
More of the concrete medians in Enugu. .......

Beautiful.......

I think we should cover up more medians in places where it had been difficult to grow grass and flowers in the median.

spyder880:
Is solving a lot of problems, sucking traffic away from the express and diverting them back at a point where it will not cause any problems. .......

Oga Spyder,
Where is this road?

Abagworo:
Obasanjo privatised refineries before leaving office and it was revoked. All the functional privatised sectors remain Obasanjo's legacy. Fuel price must not be increased to build refineries as the subsidy can still be paid to local manufacturers in Naira rather than importing and paying in dollars.

Nothing has worked under Jonathan including the power sector which he claimed to privatise but has experienced depreciation. I am waiting for it to be like the telecom.

@ the bolded,


Abagworo, for God's sake stop lying!
We were all alive during Obasanjo's corrupt era of abuse.

If Obasanjo was not supporting your APC goons, you wouldn't suddenly be saying he was a saint. So spare me your usual crap.
If you noticed, i am not Chino. I won't reply anymore of your ridiculous lies, unless you post facts.

Again, let me repeat, i am here for the glory of Imo state and not for politics like you. The only reason you support Imo now is that Rochas is in the same abokii party as your Ikwerre brother Rotimi Amaechi. In spite of what party governs Imo, i will always support Imo State.

spyder880:
Inside the CBN quarters. ......Enugu.

But Why is the CBN building more buildings, when they can't maintain what they have already built?
Na wa for Naija administrators.

spyder880:
People are leaving town in droves, moving to the villages to enjoy Christmas. .....

Chai,
Oga Spyder, you read minds o!

How did you know i wished you will show how Abakaliki road now look, as well as the airport flyover?

Thanks a lot Bro. Keep it coming.....

Abagworo:
That is why Jonathan has to leave for Nigeria to be emancipated. The FG deliberately blocked refineries from functioning and prevented private investors just because of subsidy stealing and other acts of corruption.

Bro,
Your post above is why "I hate to interact with Nigerians in the US"

We love to say things without regard to the facts and then confuse everyone into thinking that ideas cannot be achieved because of lies they have manufactured to make cheap political gains with every issue.

To begin with, Jonathan is the 1st Nigerian leader that has supported massive private investment in the downstream oil sector.Under GEJ, Dangote was given license to build $4.5 billion dollars refinery refining up to 770,000 bpd. Which should make Nigeria a net exporter of fuel. Orient too got all the administrative support under GEJ. Which Obasanjo had hiterto decided to frustrate by not giving all the necessary approvals. Nigeria is a very corrupt complex place. Most of the thieve now in APC you are rooting for, are the same exact criminals that killed our refineries, started refined crude importation and created a network of wealthy crooks as fuel dealers importing petrol into Nigeria.These wealthy crooks are working with powerful people at DPR to make sure our refineries will never work even if government invests 100 trillion dollars in them, simply to force the FG to continue fuel importation and paying subsidies. To cut off their lifeline and remove incentive to continue fuel importation, Jonathan decided to stop fuel subsidies.

I know one of the things Jonathan did as President was to remove such illegal subsidies to plug that hole created by his predecessors to loot the government. But the same corrupt politicians and thieves that have now decamped to APC convinced gullible Nigerians to keep protesting for almost 2 whole weeks and in the end, Jonathan had to back down and reinstate the illegal subsidy. You will pretend to have forgotten this history because it doesn't suit the narrative of your APC goons and criminals, but that is the fact.

Abagworo, I am not here to try to twist fact which we all clearly know, i am here to raise ideas to help our dear Imo state become a true industrial giant using her own raw materials.

asha80:
govts do not run biz let alone something like refinery...how are govt owned refineries doing in Nigeria?

Very true.
But government can attract companies that run such business, give them all the enabling tools and sign an MUO to have 40% of the shares of the company. In this way, the private experts run the facility without government control and government get dividend for their investment. It's a win win situation. Why can't we make that arrangement?

NNPC joint ventures are exactly that way. Left alone, NNPC cannot extract one spoon of oil talkless of one cup of oil.
Imo can set up her own oil minerals development company that does precisely what NNPC is doing on behalf of the FG, in helping private companies to set up and maintain a 40% share in those companies for the state government.

[size=16pt]Hydrocarbon based Industrialization[/size]

[size=13pt]Imo has commercial quantities of oil and gas. Which is currently being exported to other countries to create good jobs for their citizens while many Imo youths are forced to go to Lagos, PH, Abuja, Onitsha, Kano to seek a way to earn a living.

Now some of the small 10,000 bpd refineries in the world cost less than $10 -15 million dollars to build. This is about N5-6 billion naira, which Imo state can easily afford in one fiscal year's budget!!! Why can't we build a refinery near one of our major oil wells and simply purchase the crude from the company extracting crude from the site to feed our refinery.
Then build a type of NNPC mega station outside the refinery so that the refined petroleum products can be sold to trailers for the filling stations in the SE and SS?
This alone will create hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs in Imo state. So why can't we do it? Why must we wait for Shell, Dangote or FG to build key factories we know that are critical for our survival?

This is part of the reason whitemen call us poor people living in the midst of plenty.[/size]

[size=13pt]Agriculture is a good area to focus on in order to industrialize quickly.

Imo state gave Malaysia and Indonesia palm tree seedlings, which they have used to become rich countries and world leaders in palm oil and by-products produce. We must tap into our agricultural blessings and develop it into a business. We also have good weather for Rubber and Cocoa trees which we should exploit fully and build industries around those cash crops.
One of the reasons i am very happy with the falling oil price is that it cures us of the oil madness which has prevented investment in agriculture.

Palm oil can be canned in tins and exported, it can be used in soap making, additives to medications etc. Imo can always partner with investors willing to add value to our agricultural produce by packaging them well for export and internal consumption in Super-markets across Nigeria.

The Imo poultry at Avuru built by Dee Sam Mbakwe have been abandoned. What happened to getting a competent company to take it over, while the government will assist them in reviving it and producing frozen chicken and eggs for the entire SE and SS zone? These things aren't too hard to do if we have men of vision that understand Agriculture NOT OIL is the only way to bring our people into prosperity and maintain a high standard of living.[/size]

Abagworo:
Let us face reality. Imo is not an industrial State but what can be done is basic industrial establishment. The industrial layout in Owerri is well located and has better access road than those in Aba but industries keep springing up in Aba and many of them built by Imo indigenes. The only way Imo can industrialise is through the Nnewi model of people wisely siting industries in either their State or village but my question is whats the point? Since each Igbo State has its peculiarity and function let it remain so. Imo should forget factories and focus on hospitality, tourism and holiday industry that we are leading. Let Abia and Anambra continue being our industrial base.

I agree with you.

Imo state can be industrialized via a clear industrialization strategy.
Imo actually has everything to become an industrial hub. Good roads, a functional airport and closeness to a major seaport.

We need to create a Free Trade Zone along the Owerri -PH expressway at Obinze. Once the plots are demarcated and roads and electricity installed, we would begin an aggressive foreign investment drive as Obiano is currently doing in Anambra. Foreign companies looking for a way to begin manufacturing in Nigeria are offered free land and a few years of tax free holidays. Once any company CEO visits Owerri and see how accessible it is by air and road and the closeness to ONNE port for possible export of their product in the future, they will easily settle for Owerri as their site in Nigeria.

Thus Owerri industrialization must begin by securing an industrial site in the outskirts of the capital, developing it and then doing aggressive foreign direct investment drive.

Nedu09:
nice but Chino that model resemble those Conventional Igbotic four Story building we have here in Onitsha... am expecting skyscraper like model.... i trust Obiano nah! so what do you Fink?

@ bolded,

[size=16pt]Just in case you have forgotten,[/size]

[size=22pt]WE ARE IGBOS AND VERY VERY PROUD OF IT![/size]

[size=22pt]Anambra Govt. Projects $1.5bn investments for 2015[/size]

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Governor Willie Obiano

The investment climate of Anambra State seems bright as the state government projects to attract about $1.5 billion worth of foreign direct investments into the state’s economy by the first quarter of 2015.

Already, the government says, in the past 10 months of the Governor Willie Obiano-led administration in the state, it has invested over $1.2 billion on the development of infrastructure across various sectors of the state’s economy, including agriculture, power generation, the hospitality industry, among others.

Commissioner for Information, Culture and Tourism in the State, Chief Anthony Onyima, said in Awka, Anambra State capital that already, the state government had invested about $1.2 billion on infrastructural developments including agriculture, power generation, hospitality industry among others. He reiterated government’s commitment to the transformation of the state to a first choice investment destination across the South East region.

Onyinma who was special guest at the formal opening of the new ultra-modern office complex of Brande Aristotle in Awka commended the frontline advertising agency for what he called ‘’ the high level of professionalism’’ displayed by the agency in delivering top class marketing communications services in the state.

The Commissioner who noted that Brande Aristotle was the first Advertising Practitioners Council of Nigeria (APCON) registered, and Association of Advertising Agencies of Nigeria (AAAN) certified agency to open shop in the South East, charged the agency not to relent in its efforts, adding that, given the high level of expected investment inflow to the state, there would be need for more professional advice to investors by a competent advertising agency, in the highly specialised area of marketing communications.

“So far, we are satisfied with the quality of value you are adding presently to our state. We are glad your agency was convinced to come to Awka. The quality of professionalism we see in you is definitely unmatched’’ he said.

In his remark at the occasion, Managing Director and Chief Creative Officer, Brande Aristotle Limited, Mr Tony Odili Ujubuonu stated that the agency was committed to the task of delivering high quality marketing communication service to clients, adding that the move to open an office in Awka was the agency’s way of telling investors that the capacity was available to give support and to add value to every enterprise.


http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/anambra-govt-projects-1-5bn-investments-for-2015/197201/

spyder880:
You can call me on 08033350750, thanks.

Thanks a lot

I heard that INNOSON is considering 3 showrooms/maintenance shops in Abuja, Lagos and Port Harcourt.
I am sure these three locations will have adequate geographic spread to distribute their vehicles across Nigeria. Especially the cheapest, IVM Fox, design to be affordable for the working class family.

INNOSON should consider acquiring one haulage truck for transporting his vehicles to these showrooms/ maintenance facility. So that they remain in pristine condition at the show rooms.

spyder880:
Enugu outskirts is getting busier, this new Genesis outlet just opened at Nowas junction of Trans Ekulu Enugu. Everyone should not have to move inside town to chill out at shoprite

I like this place, very cool and ideal for having a quick business meeting.

Oga Spyder, i will be home this xmas and will pass through Enugu Intl. airport. I will like to get a phone number to discuss land issues if time permit me. If not my relations will contact you. I am interested.

Hot but interesting debate going on in the house.
Good Job all! Please continue to make your point without cheap vulgarity biko!

Meanwhile, has anyone noticed the breakneck speed of the developing Awka flyovers?

Next tour: Onitsha Hotel construction status:

Onitsha Mall parking lot smooth awaiting asphalting. I heard there will be serious landscaping with grass and trees to make the parking lot into a sort of garden.The remote end of the parking lot will be demarcated away from the rest of the parking lot and made a conducive area for out door children's parties!

Construction frenzy to meet the April, 2015 opening date for the Mall.

Main lobby of the Mall near the main entrance. This will house the food courts area of the Onitsha mall.

The left side of the mall showing the rear fence.

Looking at the entrance area from inside the Onitsha mall

Work still going on at the Onitsha Hotel on the right side of the massive mall.

The massive Onitsha mall from the second floor, left side.

Another section of the second floor new decking, to the right side of Onitsha mall. Looks like this section will house the Cinema or Movie theater.

I wish they planned to make it at least 3 floors. So that the movie theater would be located on the topmost floor.

Onitsha mall being expanded from initial 12,000 Square meters to 15,000 Square meters!

More shots from second floor Onitsha Mall.