bk.babe97y: Dont worry about how it helps the Yorubas. I think u'd do better to worry about how this further demonizes your people and shows them to be the heartless, greedy, selfish folks most people the world ova believe them to be.
Katsumoto: How is the discussion of history supposed to help any group of people?
This has been discussed many times before.Neither you or any of the people arguing were present that's why the argument is non-ending. How does this help the yoruba people?
bk.babe97y: Hahahahahahaha! Say "Hello" to your new masters! Hey, specifically, I want Biafrans bowing down to me as I walk the streets of Brooklyn. Fools! Tribal fights, meanwhile the white man has them in shackles again and they know it not! These are the moro*ns we expect to lead the Black Race? Geez!
You have to stop all of this nonosense you speak. Nothing you've just said has anything to do with the subject instead your comment just makes you look like a child. Grow up.
texazzpete: Abeg make una leave matter. All these conspiracy theory loving scumbags that furiously condemn the Western world and exalt african despots like Mugabe and Ghadaffi. I despise these people with a passion. You remain silent on the despoils in Congo, famine in Zimbabwe, genocide in Darfur and human rights abuses in Guinea, yet you fly into a paroxysm of rage and jump at any opportunity to denounce the west.
This is not in support of the West or anything like that, but if your underlying motive is rooted in love for Africa, then be consistent!
It is also amusing seeing people worry about a vague western re-colonization but fail to see anything weird in the increasing radicalization of Northern Nigeria. How many topics did @chyz open when Al Qaeda started mentioning Nigeria in his infrequent tirades?
Conspiracy? Al-Qaeda?? Wow, this is why people think African are the dumbest people on this planet. Whatever the west(your master) says is true,anybody who goes against it is wrong. Anyways, all of this al-qaeda business is a bunch of nonsense. The north has always been the way it is.Radicals going on a rampage all the time even as far back as the 50s.
So tell me this, so the west doesnt do anything wrong,they just help all of the needy countries in the world right?
playmode: Those of who are happy with this development are clueless. Those of you who say Nigeria will benefit because other countries that have ties with USA have benefited are simply ignorant. South Korea did not benefit from the usa because they have a base there but because they have good leaders.
This US Government does not give a damn about our country and this move might has probably ensured that our economy is under their control for a long time to come. It is unfortunate that we have clowns as leaders. Our leaders did not sit down and think about the long time consequence of this agreement.
Last year the USA made a similar offer to the South African Government citing the upcoming world cup as a reason for SA to allow them in but the South Africans cleverly declined the offer stating that they are more than capable to defend their turf.
I just hope that this agreement does not give them too much power because if it does we are in for a lot of trouble and it won’t be long before young Nigerians become terrorists.
Abrantie: Look in the mirror. Y'all are the ones with serious megalomania. The idea that small Ghana seems to be doing most things right compared to Nigeria (and that ain't no hype), doesn't settle well with you. Btw, this thread, started by a Nigerian, reeks of How-Dare-rism -- (i.e "How dare Ghana imposes this regulations on us, the savior of Africa? This law is a travesty, an abomination! Lets strike them down with our gods Glo, Zenith Bank & Chicken Republic".
Whether it's 0.2% or 2% doesn't matter -- we're still talking about millions of social deviants and rogues. Y'all need to stop breeding like rabbits. Stop the incest, expecially rap3s of your own daughters and nieces.
Its absolute baldarish to assume facts and presume insinuations. Nigeria isa typical failed state,period
Once again, get your dirty kenyan azz off of our site. Take you smelly east african azz back to your people and leave us west africans alone. You savage!
Katsumoto: Like all threads, it is meant to be debated. The OP stated that this has never been debated before; my post was merely to correct that point. With regards to the quality of his response, I can not comment on the quality or sensitivity of his response. I suggest you wait for his response.
Quote from: Katsumoto on February 26, 2010, 06:14 PM Dede1 That is not what the debate is about. The position you stated above is wrong for the following reasons: 1. NCNC and NPC had an agreement and formed a coalition. 2. Igbo officers killed non-Igbo members of government. If you want to argue that it was not an Igbo coup, should Igbo sons now work towards ensuring that the other party to the agreement remain side-lined? 3. The co-existence of all tribes in Nigeria was predicated on a fragile balance. Arguing that the President, Prime Minister, Senate President, and GOC of the Armed Forces should all be Igbo/Eastern does amount to domination of other tribes by the Igbo. 4. My argument was always that after the actions of the Igbo officers, the action of the NCNC to ignore the agreement with the NPC is what gave credence to the belief that it was an Igbo coup and this is what led to the counter-coup of July 1966. It would have been difficult to argue that it was an Igbo coup if Ironsi foiled the coup, tried and executed the plotters immediately, and Orizu had maintained the balance of power and existing agreement by handing over to Dipcharima. Think about it for a minute or two 5. This debate is not about who was best for the job. We have seen that they were all clowns (Zik, Awo, Sardauna) and their actions have led Nigeria down the wrong path.
Dede1's reply
Quote from: Dede1 on February 26, 2010, 07:36 PM I perfectly understood your plank of the argument which makes sense to anybody who is unpatriotic toward Nigeria and tend to kick unity and oneness to the curb.
I do not think that this debate would change your mindset as you repeatedly stated that your argument hinges of Igbo officers taking over power. The last time I checked though, Igbo was not a country and had no standing army. The overthrow of Balewa government was precipitated by Nigerian armed forces period.
NPC members knew that coalition government between two parties detected that the senior partner produces the Prime Minister and junior partner produces the Ranking Minister who is, all intents and practical purposes, de facto deputy Prime Minister. If not for the issue of deep mistrust and a country created out of colonial machination, the idea of NPC ministers caucusing to select Dipcharima as PM without the coalition partners was wrong and unacceptable.
It is even pathetic that the ministers knew who deputizes for PM in certain occasions. The Ranking Minister would have become the acting PM and when situation is under control would work with the President and ministers in council to appoint another PM from the north probably Dipcharima because he was an NCNC member before joining NPC. The action of NPC ministers pointed to the thought process that northern political elites have always arrogated to themselves that the act of ruling Nigeria is their birth right with wholesome support from few deluded southern political elites.
I have never argued about who was the best or more educated in terms of European or western education for the job of Prime Minister. If educational qualification was the yard stick, there was no northern politician that would have landed a position of minister without portfolio talk less substantives minister.
So are you expecting to get an educated reply from him or an ignorant one? And what purpose do you think this thread was posted for after many threads concerning the same topic have come and gone?
Ayatullah: @Ileke-idi, You wanna tell me the biblical Jesus was not violent when he chased out traders (today's pastors) in the synagogue? Or ask his disciples to arm themselves with sword (Luke 22:35-38/49-51)?
Violence is not the way.only in the line of defence. The people in bauchi were not in the line of defense. It is taught in the Quran that Allah does not love aggressors. If your not ready to become a real muslim then go back to being a "christian" like you claim you were.
Recently, I raised this issue, and myself and the thread created were adjudged bigoted. Today, it has been reported on this same site, though on another thread (https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-439215.0.html ) that the underlisted, ALL OF THEM IGBOS, are either awaiting execution or serving life jail sentences in Indonesia. Are you guys now willing to repent and swallow your words?
1. Kingsley Okonkwo 2. Michael Titus Igwe (Real name-Izuchukwu F. Ezimoha) 3. Uchenna Cajethan Onyenworo 4. Ekperedike S. Olekama, 5. Adam Wilson (real name-Emmanuel Okari) 6. Hillary K. Chimezie 7. Eugene Ape 8. Humphery Ejike 9. Okwudili Ayotaeze 10. Obinna Nwajiagu 11. Daniel Enemuo 12. Fredrick Lutter (Real name-Benjamin Obiora) 13. Sylvester Nwaolisa 14. Gabriel Nnadi 15. Dennis Anumona 16. Ikenna Ezenwune 17. Stephen Rashid 18. Joseph Ndaba 19. Ken Michael 20. Obinna George
SHENZHEN: A Nigerian man received the death penalty Tuesday in Dongguan, Guangdong province, after being convicted of drug trafficking. Experts say it is the first case in the southern manufacturing city in which a foreigner has received a death sentence for drug trafficking.
His sentence was handed down from the Guangdong Higher People's Court. The execution still needs the review and final approval of the Supreme People's Court.
Osonwa Okey Noberts, 37, was found trading nearly 6 kg drugs to Chinese drug dealers at his rented apartment in Baiyun district of Guangzhou from February to April 2008, according to the investigation.
"Osonwa Okey Noberts took the drugs from the suppliers and sold them to the lower-tier buyers in China. The amount of heroin reached 5,978.1 grams. He deserves the most severe punishment," said a press release by the Intermediate People's Court of Dongguan, where the final verdict was announced.
Zhang Dongxiang, the 27-year-old Chinese girlfriend of Noberts, received a death sentence with a two-year reprieve for assisting the illegal trade.
They lived together starting in July 2007 but when she discovered almost six months later that the Nigerian was trafficking drugs, she rented another room next to their apartment to facilitate the trading and provided necessary help.
Two other Chinese drug dealers, Wu Xianjun and Jiang Xuzhi, also received death sentences with two-year reprieves for drug trafficking and employing people for the illegal activities. Policemen found guns and bullets in their homes when they were arrested in April 2008.
The Guangdong Higher People's Court upheld the convictions of the first trial at the Dongguan Intermediate People's Court in June last year but reduced the sentences on four of the convicts after taking into consideration their appeals, the report said.
According to China's criminal law, trafficking of more than 50 grams of heroin can warrant the death penalty.
Official statistics showed that drug trafficking by foreigners is becoming rampant in Guangdong.
Four foreigners, along with five other suspects, have been in custody since they were caught in Shenzhen for allegedly smuggling 144.5 kg of heroin from Pakistan in September 2009.
The Guangzhou Intermediate People's Court heard eight drug-trafficking cases, involving nine Africans, were involved, in November 2008. Eight received a stay of execution, while the ninth person was sentenced to life imprisonment.
Whenever you hear this kind of news, before you hear the name of the perpetrator, one can always bet it's an Igbo name. Why is this very very predominant amongst the Igbos lads and lasses. Traditionally, I respect the Igbos for their industriousness and creativity, but what's happening these days?
Please, feel free to add other names to this list, indicating your source(s).
[size=13pt]It funny that you said the Nigerians awaiting execution or serving life in indonesia are Igbo because there are indeed are 70-100 nigerians recorded to definitely be in jail in that country. So most likely the majority of that predominantly muslim country who are in jail are Yorubas and Hausas. [/size]
Ayatullah: @Beaf, your dirty language shows the type of education you inherited from the teachers who taught you nonsense, a million shame on you. No wonder when I checked your profile your pix revealed an atheist and another man championing the dress code of colonial masters of old! Sane and people with pure education don't admire atheists!!! The 'almajiris' who brought down the twin towers in the USA and shook to its foundation the pentagon will soon teach educated ones like you a lesson in Nigeria. The Bauchi Prison Operation is just a dress rehearsal for what will befall those of you who think you are wiser and more educated than others. Keep living in fool's paradise and boasting of a meaningless education.
Sorry but muslims didn't bring down the twin towers so give another example and try not to assert Islam with your evil, ungoly ways. Those who commit murder will face the wrath of Allah.If you want to join those nonbelievers in bauchi you too will inherit the wrath and perish as well.
Nigeria's three-decade enslavement under the military was entirely masterminded by the Igbo: Nzeogwu, Ifeajuna, Ironsi, Nwafor Orizu, Azikiwe. All the principal actors. But they were quick to roll over and play victim when the Hausas lashed back at them so brutally.
The plan is to gain physical control of the resources of not only nigeria but africa as a whole. Watch the video and see how much oil the U.S. gets from nigeria alone. Also, thats why they havent allowed nigeria to split and come 2015 they will make nigeria slit once this Africom deployment is fully established and they have complete comtrol either way:
This thread should be removed from the politics section.it is meant to cause tribal mayhem and the poster is reducing the quality of the "Politics" section, the poster has also change the title of the thread which the name "Ibo" was used,in order for it not to be sent to the "Tribal" section:
Nigeria just continues to go down the drain. Even after the SW took a big blow from the boycott of the northerners the some fools still continue to take from their people instead of putting plans in place to prevent the past from happening again. Africans never learn.
[size=18pt]‘Political farmers cause food shortage in S/West’[/size]
Written by Dare Adekanmbi Wednesday, 15 September 2010
THE South-Western Nigerian Conference of Farm Settlers Association, on Tuesday, blamed food shortage in the region on government patronage of “political farmers who only practise agriculture by words of mouth.”
President of the association, Evangelist Samson Makinde, made the statement during a visit to the Tribune House in Ibadan as part of activities to usher in the 50th anniversary of the establishment of farm settlement scheme by Chief Obafemi Awolowo.
Makinde, who described a “political farmer” as one who gets government grant without any land to till, lamented that the development had hampered genuine farmers’ efforts at maintaining the scheme which, he said, had the capacity to feed not only the South-West, but also the entire nation. He described the farm settlers as people who “cannot combine politics with farming,” stressing that the region had deviated form the legacy left behind by the sage, adding that the last strike by Northerner pepper settlers was a test of bigger threat in the future.
The farmer maintained that Chief Awolowo established the scheme with a view to helping the masses realise their optimal potential and be self-sufficient, expressing gratitude to him and his wife, HID Awolowo for her support.
While receiving the farmers, on behalf of the owners of the newspaper and the management team, Features Editor, Mr Olufemi Olukunle, bemoaned the seeming neglect of agriculture in the region, in spite of availability of vast arable land.
It really is saddening this is a serious matter that i cant believe these people on this form is disregarding all in the name of wasted tribalism. Also it makes you wonder how unaware GJ is of something that Yaradua was aware of and condemned. How can "president" GJ allow this kind of deal even after the fact that it was just recent that the U.S. reguired nigeria to have U.S. Air Marshals on every flight to the U.S. What a push-over
bk.babe97y: Dude, ure moronic to say the least! Your people always scream war, if they want it so bad then may they suffer the consequences of war! Why would u wish ill on a people that seek good health? Is this just that Ibo way of thinking?
Igbos never wanted or is calling for war so if it is brought to that may God let all of nigeria suffer the same amount in every region.
bk.babe97y: Nigga, shut up up! Why should everyone suffer if your tribe is the only one always fuming for war?! I say they (your tribe) suffer all the deaths, loss, and disaster (alone) that u wish for all the other innocent/non-violent tribes!
May all suffer the same fate. Theres no such thing as "my people" wanting war. If you are talking about succession, it does not mean war. But if war is taken on us may me all suffer the same amount of loss according to population and region.
PhysicsQED: How can a massive fraud and an embarrassment to all African scientists and intellectuals and to black people in general, advise anybody on anything? The man is a graduate school failure (notice I didn't say "dropout." Some graduate school dropouts go on to become very successful) who never contributed anything to anybody, especially Africa.
[size=18pt]Nigeria, U.S Sign Pact On Regional Security[/size] Wednesday, 15 September 2010 00:43 Abiodun Oluwarotimi, Washington D.C
In the bid to further strengthen the security system in the Niger Delta region, the United States of America (USA) has signed a bi-national agreement on regional security with Nigeria.
The signing which took place in Washington D.C yesterday at the chambers of the United States Council on Foreign Relations had the attendance of Nigeria's Ambassador to the United States, His Excellency Professor Ade Ibidapo Adefuye and other dignitaries from the Ministries of Foreign Affairs, Niger Delta and Defence.
The Permanent Secretary, Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Dr. Martin Uhomoibhi signed the regional security agreement on behalf of Nigerian government, while Johnie Carson, U.S Assistant Secretary on African Affairs signed on behalf of the United States government.
Speaking during the event, Uhomoibhi said European colonisation of Africa and its antithesis of Pan Africanism provides the historical context for understanding the evolution of Nigeria's post-independence security and foreign policies in Africa.
He further stated that Nigeria was actively involved in efforts to secure and build peace in Africa, stressing that Nigeria's Afro-centric foreign and security policies have manifested in various ways including playing leading roles in the creation of Organisation of Africa Unity, OAU, New Partnership for Africa’s Development, NEPAD and the African Union, AU.
Using the Economic Community of West African States, ECOWAS as a regional security vehicle, he said Nigeria has provided strong leadership in regional peace efforts in West Africa, notably in Liberia and Sierra Leone from the late 80’s to early 2000.
He noted that Nigeria has also been actively involved in various peace and conflict resolution initiatives across Africa, including Chad, Darfur, Somalia, Congo and others.
He continued that the ideological and political impetus for Nigeria's regional security policy derived from fundamental commitments in the Nigeria’s constitution which prescribes for the country’s five key objectives to pursue on the world stage.
"Despite the evolution of Nigeria's foreign objectives over the years, the basic organising principle, deriving from constitutional obligations, has centred on the notion of the four concentric circles of national interest" he added.
In his reaction, the United States Assistant Secretary on African Affairs, Mr. Johnie Carson, said the regional Security Bi-National pact was very critical since conflict mitigation is one of the top policies for Africa.
[size=18pt]How PDP delegates may vote during presidential primaries[/size] 09.14.2010
NOTES • The race is getting tighter and tighter as Saraki enters race. • Not all governors are guaranteed total loyalty from state delegates. Most figures are based on percentage projections. (Watch out for indepth, state-by-state analysis next week). • South-west votes are calculated 60% for Jonathan, despite his endorsement by the zone. • South-east governors have sympathy for Jonathan, but the zone is still open. • Delegate count is based on PDP’s list of statutory delegates made up of all officials elected on the party's platform (and in line with the amended Electoral Act). • Undecided voters hold the ace as d-day draws near. • A contestant must poll at least 51% (about 1776) of the total votes cast to be declared winner. • This is not a poll. Calculations are based on political intelligence and interviews.