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Andre Uweh:Well said. |
2015 US prediction of nigeria's disintegration has just jumped 2 years closer. |
Aigbofa:Excuses excuses. Any who, dueces. |
dayokanu:Since when did the west Region have an army like the rest of the major 2 regions? Attack Ore as if the Biafrans had anything again yorubas or their land. Gowon Attack Biafra so Biafra after clearly in clear war was headed straight for that capital city of Lagos brother. I laugh at your choice of words "attack Ore". In fact since the war was between "North and East" what were yoruba soldiers doing joining the Northerner soldiers attacking the East even before the Biafrans went to Ore? Is that not invading our land first? think about it my man. |
Aigbofa:Excuses excuses. Now Ojukwu was a soldier and not a "rebel" like you called him before? Any who, that "rebel" Ojukwu was a "rebel" just like the people who ran out of the country from Abacha. And dude, everybody had a gun in nigeria then brother.And yes they had "troops" as well they were called the Gani Adams and the OPC band. |
dayokanu:Nigeria loss more soldiers than Biafra did so who even in ratio so who werent the ones prepared.hmph. Don't let the backing of international super powers equate to nigeria being more prepared for war than Biafra. If that is the case than the North and West(only because they had a number soldiers in the army) should be blamed to because the Midwest "didn't want to be included in the war so no people from any other region should have been in that particular region,abi? Running away when the people needed him the most? Aw, how sweet, you care. |
dayokanu:I do. ![]() The fall of Owerri into rebel hands was to lead to the loss of Adekunle's Command. It had been on the books for quite some time, but Gowon was exercising his usual caution or, some would say, indecision. When it finally happened, it took a distinctly Nigerian hue. All three field Commanders were changed and replaced by officers from the same areas. Thus, Colonel Obasanjo, a Yoruba, replaced Colonel Adekunle (another Yoruba) and Colonels Bisalla and Jallo (from the 'North') took over from Haruna and Shuwa (both from the 'North) in Divisions 1 and 2, respectively. |
Aigbofa:Got ask Abacha's son the people his father made escape into benin rep and fly away to london,etc. Ask him how many they were also. Go to IBB and ask him what happened to the guy who he gave three options Jail, Death, or go into exile. |
It's not an insult to praise a man who did not declare war but instead declare a country by secession. |
Aigbofa:I'm not even going to elaborate on it but you know what's up. Lets not even begin to talk about leaders being cowards and running away into foreign land. Lets not go there for you own good brother. |
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Katsumoto:Just out of curiosity, you said that Ojukwu got 90% of what he wanted during of the Aburi accord, what exactly where the things that Gowon wanted during the conference of the Aburi Accord in Ghana. You should have that since you are abled to come up with a percentage.There has got to be material set aside for comparison. Also, is it not true that they left Ghana with a solid agreement? If they didn't I'd like evidence proving so. |
Dede1:Well said. |
dayokanu:And who was the representative of the West after he was unseated? Akintola, a pro-one nigerian. Which according to you means Yorubas were for one nigeria. Yes Zik equates Eastern people When Bush declared war on Iraq many Americans didnt support but the action of the leader represent the wish of his nation. Evidence of Akintolas supporting One Nigeria emerged after 1960.I hope you know that this write up of your contradicts itself completely. Using Bush as analogy was a bad idea. Take note. ![]() Its an Ibo coup'Igbo led coup' today 'Igbo coup' tomorrow then 'Gordon-led Power Rangers coup' next week then the 'Captain Planet and the Planeteers coup' after that. Hey, whatever flies your kite my man. So who says in retaliation killings must be equal? If you kill one of mine I reserve the right to kill millions of yoursKill millions if you like, billions i dont care, Conan the Adventurer,lol. Truth is what you just wrote isn't even relative to my comment. Continue to let out your hot air. I'm still chillin. |
JamesDoe:Completely wrong. SW(Western Region) did not want One nigeria. Where's the evidence in this? The East(Eastern Region) wanted one nigeria through Zik. Since when did Zik equate to the Eastern people? Its funny that since you are using the words and actions of one individual to be the expression of a whole people of a particular region that you never mentioned Akintola, whole whole a pure one nigeria supporter and the former Premier of the Western Region. Since this was the fact, according to you way of thinking, the "SW" really was for One nigeria. And also, awolowo did fight for that didn't he? Late 1950s and early 1960sZik never tried to divide the West. He was a "One nigeria" supporter remember, so there shouldn't be a surprise if a man with such ideology ran for a position in Ibadan as against to his ancestral region. About brandishing tribalism blames, I mean a certain region constantly puts out tribal bashing news out to the public and its leaders make statements like "We never new the Igbo before, "(Oh and it was worst that what I typed) is his claim wrong? Also, what do you mean by 'did he not chance a Calabar man?' ? ![]() 1966I glad you at least said 'Igbo-led coup' and not 'Igbo coup'. I can respect that. About the retaliation against Easterners during the July 66' coup. If that coup/pogrom was due to retaliation of the Jan 66 killings of their leader,why then was their a riot in May of '66 which caused 10,000 Eastern deaths in the North? Was that not retaliation? Also were the same northern soldiers that were called out to help stop the May 66 retaliatory riot against the Easterners? Obviously the July 66 coup was for the quest of norther supreme rule and the Igbo both politically and socially had to be 'subdued'. As for the Igbo leaders calling for seccession without the consultation of other easterners, that is a big lie. The average civilians didnt agree or disagree and neither did they have a sayso in such a durassic decision. The major people kings/leaders/big men majority iof them were for the secession. Go read on it buddy. We didn't have people turning on Biafra till later on down the line. Igbos never blamed westerners, remember you said Zik meant Igbos right? I don't remember Zik ever saying that. . .lol. But for real, Igbos don't blame yorubas just some of your leaders, as you all should not blame us. |
afam4eva:Lmao! |
Abagworo:This is ndoni(Oguta). |
I really think your prices are over-exaggerated. I've even gone into the blog that you posted the link to. Considering the conditions of the building and the sure heavy amounts of maintenance and rennovation work they are going to take, there is no reasom why anyone would invest in such builings at that price. Even the prices at Lagos aren't that high! Even if negotiated, the price would still be high. I suggest you slash the prices immensely. Next time you all will ask why Igbos don't invest in Igboland. |
[size=15pt]ON ABURI WE STAND: The Distortion of Accord, by Ojukwu[/size] On November 27, 2011 · In Special Report Story IN BRIEF On May 30,1996, Odumegwu Ojukwugare a memorable speech insisting that the spirit of the aggreement reached by the warring parties be obeyed. Anybody who was present at the Aburi meeting or has read the minutes, the communiqués, statements, and verbatim reports would be surprised that a person who calls himself a head of state could so deliberately mislead accredited representatives of foreign governments by saying that the implementation of each item of the conclusions required prior detailed examination by the administrative and professional experts in the various fields. The conclusions in Aburi were no proposals but decisions taken by the highest authority in the land. What happened in fact was that specific matters, namely, the decrees and sections of decrees to be repealed, the mechanics of army reorganization, and the question of rehabilitation of refugees, were referred to experts. The meeting of the financial experts to consider the question of rehabilitation of displaced persons has not been held because the Ministry of Finance does not think that such that such a meeting would serve any useful purpose. The army experts met and reached agreements, but these were rejected. Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu Lieutenant-Colonel Yakubu Gowon told the Heads of Missions that the agreement about returning the regions to the positions before January 17 also meant in effect that the federal government in Lagos would continue to carry on its functions as before. He failed to inform the world that the decisions taken at Aburi, the federal government meant no more than the Supreme Military Council. No one of course who knows the sort of advice Lieutenant-Colonel Gowon is receiving in Lagos would be surprised by this suppression and distortion of the truth. The actual Aburi decisions read as follows: Members agree that the legislative and executive authority of the Federal Military Government should remain in the Supreme Military Council, to which any decision affecting the whole country shall be referred for determination provided that where it is possible for a meeting to be held the matter requiring determination must be referred to military governors for their comment and concurrence. Specifically, the council agreed that appointments to senior ranks in the police, diplomatic, and consular services as well as appointment to superscale posts in the federal civil service and the equivalent posts in the statutory corporation must be approved by the Supreme Military Council. The regional members felt that all the decrees passed since January 15, 1966, and which detracted from previous powers and positions of regional governments, should be repealed if mutual confidence is to be restored. It is difficult to understand the introduction of the word “veto” into the matter. The Aburi Agreement was that any decision which affected the whole country must receive the concurrence of all the military governors because of their special responsibilities in their different area of authority and so to the country as a corporate whole. On the reorganization of the army, it is for Lieutenant-Colonel Gowon to explain to the world what he means by the “army continuing to be under one command,” when in the very next sentence of his statement he also speaks of an agreement to establish area commands corresponding with the existing regional boundaries. This contradiction in itself tells the truth, and one does does not need to belabor the point. The actual decision of the Supreme Military Council as recorded in the official minutes reads as follows: The Council decides that: (i) on reorganization of the army: (a) Army to be governed by the Supreme Military Council under a chairman to be known Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces and Head of the Federal Military Government. (b) Establishment of a military headquarters comprising equal representation from the regions and headed by a Chief of Staff. (c) Creation of area commands corresponding to existing regions and under the charge of area commander. (d) Matters of policy, including appointments and promotions to top executive posts in the armed forces and the police, to be dealt with by the Supreme Military Council. (e) During the period of the military government, military governors will have control over area commands for internal security. (f) Creation of a Lagos garrison, including Ikeja barracks. It is clear from the Aburi decisions that what was envisaged was a loosely knit army administered by a representative military headquarters under the charge of a Chief of Staff and commanded by the Supreme Military Council, not by Lieutenant-Colonel Yakubu Gowon as he claimed in his present statement to the diplomats. According to the Aburi Agreements “the following appointments must be approved by the Supreme Military Council; (a) diplomatic and consular posts; (b) senior posts in the armed forces and the police; (c) superscale federal civil service and federal corporation posts.” Everyone with even the most superficial acquaintance with the Nigerian civil service knows what those expressions mean and connote. To confuse issue, Lieutenant-Colonel Gowon gave the impression that the main difference between him and me on this particular decision was that I insisted on canceling the appointments of existing civil servants. I can think of nothing more slanderous. It is clear from Gowon’s statement in question that he is prepared to distort the verbatim reports of the Aburi meeting. To keep the public informed, the Eastern Nigerian Broadcasting Service will be playing the tape records of the proceedings live at scheduled times…. Arrangement have been completed to transform those tape recordings to long-playing gramophone records … We are also going ahead to print and publish the documents and records of Aburi meeting. We in the East are anxious to see that our difficulties are resolved by peaceful means and that Nigeria is preserved as a unit, but it is doubtful, and the world must judge whether Lieutenant-Colonel Gowon’s attitudes and other exhibitions of his insincerity are something which can lead to a return of normalcy and confidence in the country. I must warn all Easterners once again to remain vigilant. The East will never be intimidated, nor will she acquiesce to any form of dictation. It is not our intention to play the aggressor. Nonetheless, it is not our intention to be slaughtered in our beds, We are ready to defend our homeland. Fellow countrymen and women, on Aburi We Stand. There will be no compromise. God grant peace in our time. Being speech by Ojukwu restating commitment to Aburi Accord on May 30 1969 http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/11/on-aburi-we-stand-the-distortion-of-accord-by-ojukwu/ |
[size=15pt]Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu- Ojukwu (1933-2011)[/size] He stole fire from the gods By Amanze Obi Sunday, November 27, 2011 [img]http://www.sunnewsonline.com/images/Ojukwu%20%20-13.jpg [/img] He had a protean disposition. In his life time, he was variously described as a demagogue, a rabble-rouser, a megalomaniac and even a war-monger. But Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu, the leader of the defunct Republic of Biafra, could not be pigeon-holed. His life remembered an open enterprise with a wide receptive canvass until he succumbed to the cold hands of death at the age of 78. As an ideologue of the first order, Odumegwu-Ojukwu, at the prime age of 34 became the symbol of a struggle. The quest by Eastern Nigeria to become an independent Republic at the time he was the Military Governor of the Region has remained till this moment, the epic of a race. Even in his death, the struggle of the Igbo in a fractured Nigeria which began with the Birafran revolution will remain a philosophy, even a belief system. His life and times were those of a titan. He happened upon the Nigerian scene in the manner of a Prometheus. But whereas the legendary Greek god stole fire from heaven and was chained and tortured, Odumegwu-Ojukwu was daringly original. He shunned subjugation and broke loose from the shackles of degradation and dehumanization. By so doing, he stole the soul of Nigeria, leaving the entity groping endlessly in search of relevance. The Igbo struggle which he led left Nigeria as a fraction. The country has, ever since, continually laboured to find its integer. Forty four years into the struggle, Odumegwu-Ojukwu, the author and progenitor of the revolution, has bowed out with grace. But he did not do so without leaving his footprints on the sands of time. But exit will thrown up a lot of concerns from the watching world. As the Igbo icon who led his people to a war whose memory is deeply etched in their imagination, what will the Igbo make of Ojukwu’s absence from the scene? Will be struggle end with him? Will the absence foist on the Igbo a deep sense of loss to the point of inertia? Analysts see these possibilities as far-fetched, As a people with an indomitable spirit, the Igbo are likely to be supremely challenged by Odumegwu-Ojukwu’s absence. But rather than relapse into mournful surrender, the people are likely to ensure that his iconic image remains the rallying point or a point of reference with which the Igbo can wake themselves from slumber. This is because, Odumgwu-Ojukwu, until his death, remained the only Igbo man who was truly lionized and revered by the people. Not even the legendary Nnamdi Azikiwe occupied such a prime place in the heart of the Igbo. Indeed, Odumegwu-Ojukwu’s preeminence in the imagination of the Igbo should be well understood for what it is. The real story of the Igbo people of Nigeria is the story of Biafra. Even though the Republic collapsed less than three years after its declaration, its birth and death seem to summarize the place of the Igbo in today’s Nigeria. As an Igbo, indeed a Nigerian, you do not need to be born before 1967 to know that Nigeria went to war with the Igbo nation over the secessionist bid of the latter. Even though the attempt failed, the Igbo have imbibed all things Biafran. The people believed and still believe in the struggle. They are constantly reminded by the state of affairs in Nigeria that Biafra is a dream deferred. Sometimes the Igbo moan and groan, albeit quietly, over the loss of their dream Republic. They know that things are what the are because they lost their Biafra. The corollary of this is that the Nigerian federation managed by non-Biafrans have tended to isolate the enclave that was Biafra. The post-War Nigeria is suspicious of the Igbo nation. The promoters and beneficiaries of post-War Nigeria see Igboland as a conquered territory and the people as a defeated lot. The Nigerian leadership, in line with this thinking, adopted a scorched earth policy that was meant to constantly remind the people that they are yet to be reintegrated into the mainstream of Nigerian affairs. Odumegwu-Ojukwu, in his life time, was a witness to this deliberate effort at undermining the people he led to war. Since it is the prerogative of the victor to rewrite history, there have also been invidious attempts by anti-Briafan elements to give the defunct Republic a bad name. But Odumegwu-Ojukwu rebuffed all of this. He remained faithful to the struggle he led. He never wavered or equivocated. He lived and dreamt Biafra. He stood by the struggle till the last moment. As he journeys along into eternity, Odumegwu-Ojukwu, the graduate of History at Oxford University, England, will be remembered as the true man of the people. His early exposure to wealth and education helped to give his life the meaning that culminated in Biafra. It also helped to keep critics at bay. This is because the man knew his onions and could not be led by the nose. He had an oratorical prowess that even his glib critics could not ignore. But all the gift of excellence that he had could not have been for the sake of it. He was sent from Heaven by the creator to give expression and meaning to the beliefs and convictions by his people. He carried out the assignment to the best of his ability. Therefore, no matter what anybody may say of him, Odumegwu-Ojukwu was the true symbol of the Igbo quest for a just and equitable Nigeria. This ideal could not be achieved in his life time. But certainty, the Igbo will hold aloft the torch of forbearance which Odumegwu-Ojukwu lit in their hearts 44 years ago. Certainly, the dream shall not die. http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2011/nov/27/national-27-11-2011-005.html |
Katsumoto:Did it ever occur to you that awolowo didn't believe in nigeria as a country? Did it ever occur to you that he was thrown in jail for treason, and that a person with that kind of mind is valuable in a mission against northern muslim hegemony? Did it ever occur to you that Awolowo was Ojukwu's father's close friend and with that alone upon others he saw no reason for him to remain in jail? |
Katsumoto:So essentially what you are saying is that Ojukwu bowed to the fact the Gowon was in-charge legally and that whatever he says goes? |
Katsumoto:You make no sense at all. Listen to yourself. Gowon had no authority in the East. He was not recognized as all. There was no way that anybody, Ojukwu, or his subordinates would have release Awolowo upon gowon's order, no one. |
Relax101:If awolowo had refused any of gowons commands and tried to declare a oduduwa republic his head would have been on a stick. With that being said it is understandable why he chickened out but when he involved himself in the war against Biafra that's when the problem started. |
Katsumoto:So in other words, you are making an arse of yourself. Now was gowon the Commander of the Eastern Region. Yes or no? |
Katsumoto:There is only one almighty and his name is Allah . Although its good that you now are heeding to my warning. ![]() |
Katsumoto:Gowon did an illegal take over that was not recognized by Ojukwu, the Eastern General, but he allowed gowon to make the decision to release a inmate in his own region. Yea, try again. |
Katsumoto:Was Gowon the commander of the Eastern region? |
Katsumoto:I've warned you about this don't let any Igbo coup nonsense come out of your mouth again. Thank you. |
Katsumoto:Wow, are you this dumb? You again come with your obvious lack of manhood to admit you're wrong. So what you are saying is that Ojukwu kept awolowo in jail because he didnt agree to join Biafra as Banjo, Ademoyega, and Adeleke did? Instead, Gowon, who couldn't even stop ojukwu from declaring war, ordered Ojukwu(the commander of the Eastern region) to free Awolowo? Or did Gowon personally come and unlock Awolowos cage and walked with him back to Lagos? Dude, you really have fufu for a brain. |
bashr8:Na soooooo! Lolz ![]() |
ak47mann: ![]() Igbo Kwenu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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. Although its good that you now are heeding to my warning.