₦airaland Forum

alj_harem:
I am sure if I did not talk of the massacre of Kanuri muslims in the Mosque by the military, NO ONE WOULD KNOW OR EVEN ASK

the innocent people praying were killed just because they were muslims

Yet I don't see people documenting this facts

how sad naija

You're funny.

alj_harem:
Just because the west don't cry and shout does not mean it massacres don't happen there.

Odi was a military invasion ordered back then
http://www.waado.org/environment/fedgovt_nigerdelta/bayelsainvasion/AssessmentOfInvasion/AssessmentsOfDestructionOfOdi.html

It was done to reduce the protest of the militants which were about to erupt from the region called Balysea.

Like I said before, it was not a military invasion like during the dates you posted. And no, it was not to reduce "militant protest". Militants DO NOT protest. Also, the whole area was raised and burnt down and innocent civilians targetted, killed ,and raped. Show me where that has happened to yoruba. I dare you. Odi was cleansing down due to corrupt deals made by the FG(lead by Obasanjo) and Shell. More area was needed.

Yoruba massacre YES IT HAPPENED AND HOW WOULD YOU KNOW, IGBOS AND OTHER ETHNIC GROUPS RAN TO THERE VARIOUS REGION BACK

THE HAUSA AND OTHER WENT TO THE NORTH AND THE IGBOS AND OTHER WENT TO THE EAST.

When that happen, it was the yorubas doing the "massacring" not the Igbo and Hausa. That is why they were leaving. The army was called in by cause of YOUR people "massacring" others. Lets get it together brother. Your write up doesn't even make sense. If the yoruba were being massacred why would the Igbo and Hausa leave? For what reason since they are not the targets?  

in fact there was a protest of which the military was shoting straight at people in Lagos close to Okobaba

Pls, you are bring up protest that non-yorubas even protested in. And why even use such an ethnically diverse place like lagos? It would make more sense if it were Ogun,ekiti,osun,. . .

alj_harem:
Odi was a military invasion just like what happened in Lagos in 1960, 1996 and 2000 so why not talk of the crime against humanity in the western Nigeria as well ?

in 1960, Nnamdi Azikwe orderd the arrest of Awolowo, in the process killing and victimizing the yoruba people in Lagos

http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//ITN/1962/11/13/FS131162001/?s=awolowo+arrest&st=0&pn=1

In 1996, Abubakar' ordered the arrest of yoruba leaders and sent the military to the SW region of Nigeria.

THE MASSACRE OF OODUA YOUTHS: THE CONTINUING GENOCIDE, WILL IT EVER END?

Congress, had just finished a meeting in a private home in Somolu, Bariga,
when they were accosted by men of "Operation Sweep" a Lagos- based
organization set up by Abacha to implement Abacha's policy of ethnic
cleansing of the Yorubas

http://www.reocities.com/CapitolHill/lobby/5144/massacre.htm

OBJ KILLING OF YORUBAS, aka military invasion and locked up OPC leader gani adams for 2 years

I am coming back to the north

Odi was not a military invasion like lagos in 1960,1996, or 2000. there was no ethnic cleasing of a people during those "invasions" unlike in Odi. If what you are saying was the case we would have been hearing of it even till this day like we do the '66 pogroms in the north, massacres against Biafra civilians(although the Nigerians said they were nigerians and are not the same as the Biafran rebels ), Odi, and Zaki Biam.

The arrest of yoruba leaders and their political thugs(OPC) was not a massacre at all.  Can't even believe you'd even bring that up.

alj_harem:
[size=27pt]The Forceful Invasion And Massacar Of The Mid-westerners By Biafrans/igbos And Ojukwu[/color][/size]

The Gathering Storm.

As far back as April 6th, 1967 almost two months before the proclamation of secession, special branch police reports had alerted the federal government of certain activities that were to take on significance later (10). Two officers from the eastern region, (Lt. Col. Ude and Major Obioha) were in contact with some of their counterparts in the Midwest to make arrangements for the possible occupation of the Midwest by troops from the Eastern Area Command. The pretext would be that the Midwest was not strong enough to defend itself and that Midwest Ibos needed protection. This occupation was to be coordinated with a simultaneous seizure of the Western region, which (according to the report) was why some individuals (presumably Ojukwu, Awolowo and Adebayo) were advocating that "northern" troops leave that region.

Outright molestation, harassment and killing of non-Ibo civilians occurred on a daily basis. At night "suspected saboteurs" were fished out of their homes and arrested. The Hausa community in the Lagos street area of Benin and other parts of the state were targeted for particularly savage treatment, in part a reprisal for the pogroms of 1966, but also out of security concerns that they would naturally harbor sympathies for the regime in Lagos. But non-Hausas were just as badly treated. And as the hostility of the local population became more intense, so did the degree of indiscrete brutality for "internal security". Non-Ibo alumni of St. Patrick's College, Asaba and Government College, Ughelli, found to their chagrin that old school ties meant nothing in the new dispensation (17).

Radio broadcasts "educated" the public about the role of 'gallant' Biafran troops who had only come to liberate them from the "bondage of the feudal Hausa-Fulani oligarchy". An economic cooperation agreement was announced between the 'independent' states of Biafra and the Midwest. The truth, though, was that Ojukwu retained authority to approve all expenditures made by the Okonkwo regime and it was not until September 13th that normal postal, telephone and telegraphic services between Biafra and the Midwest were resumed (15). Counter-propaganda was indeed launched by federal radio, which appealed to the citizens of the state for loyalty and cooperation.

In this atmosphere, civil resistance and disobedience germinated, predominantly among non-Ibos. But a few Midwest Ibo-speaking soldiers and civilians did become leery about the invasion and felt the 'interference' from "across the Niger" was getting out of hand. On the other side of this opinion divide was the powerful, so-called "Enugu clique", eager to share in the destiny of the corporate Ibo nation (14). Such ambiguous sensitivities and antipathies within and between "western" and "eastern" Ibos have always existed. Long after the civil war, for example, it even affected negotiations about the creation of a proposed anioma state

[color=#990000]There are undoubtedly some historians (10) who see similarities between Ojukwu's invasion of the Midwest and Hitler's March 1938 march into Austria (the Anchsluss) following which he secured the annexation of Sudetenland in September (23). I think we can infer additional reasons, based on the operational and political details of the campaign, seen in light of the Nigerian situation at that time.

you can read more here

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-714801.0.html

Al haram, where in the write up, apart from the title,does it say Biafrans "massacred" mid-westerners?

tpia@:
^^hmm, you really think you're smart, dont you.

how long have you been on this forum?

any success yet?

I prefer intelligent. And success in regards to wat?

tpia@:
^go easy on your mama plz.

no need to start abusing her on a public forum.

Ouch! yes ma I like it wen u talk dirty to me

tpia@:
^^are you by any chance the same animal as that freak called da rapture and any of his monikers?

the two of you always drop in at the same time like the rotten pennies you are?

could u be the same grumpy ol' lady by the moniker of Tpiah?

tpia@:
that i.diot wants to start with me sha.

ode buruku scram. fata, biko!!!

[size=15pt]At Last, Arik Gets 7 Slots to Heathrow[/size]

16 Nov 2011

By Chinedu Eze





Arik Air has emerged a major beneficiary from the settlement of the face-off between Nigeria and the United Kingdom over the implementation of the Bilateral Air Services Agreement (BASA).


The airline, which was at the centre of the storm, Tuesday had its entries into Heathrow Airport from Abuja increased from five to seven per week.

This was part of the outcome of the meetings between the officials of the Federal Government and their British Government counterparts over the suspension of Arik Air’s flights from Abuja to London and the reduction of slots of the British Airways (BA) to Lagos Airport as a retaliation by the Nigerian government.

The BA, as part of the rapproachement, would continue with the seven slots it had always enjoyed before the diplomatic row over the BASA between both countries about two weeks ago.

According to a statement isued by the Special Assistant (Media) to the Minister of Aviation, Mr. Joe Obi, Arik Air now has seven from Abuja to London at an agreed commercial fee, believed to be cheaper than the rate the airline previously bought BMI's unutilised slots.

“With respect to slot at Heathrow Airport, seven slots per week from Abuja have been secured for Arik Air at prevailing commercial rates,” the statement said.

The Nigerian airline had been denied five slots a week from its Abuja, London operations by the Airline Coordination Limited (ACL), forcing it to suspend its flights from the nation’s capital.

Arik Air thus gained additional two slots to the five it was operating before the face-off.
With these concessions, the Federal Government has restored the seven slots a week to BA on its London, Lagos operations.

The British mega carrier would have started operating three times a week to the Murtala Muhammed International Airport (MMIA), Lagos, today if its seven frequencies had not been restored.

Obi also said in the statement that in consideration to the high fares charged by BA and the associated regional imbalance, the airline made an offer of a 20-per-cent reduction in the lowest Business Class fare between Nigeria and the UK.

“The Nigerian side considered this as insufficient. The Nigerian government is still very concerned about the regional price disparity. We still strongly believe that this regional imbalance should be dismantled. In other words, BA should offer the same or similar fares from Nigeria to the UK as is the case in any other Equidistant destination within West Africa,” he said.

Obi also said the British authorities requested to be given an opportunity to carry out an independent study of the regional pricing disparity in the UK/Nigerian aviation market.

“We expect the conclusion of this study by the end of the year to facilitate a conclusion on the subject,” he added.
The special assistant to the aviation minister therefore called on the Nigerian flying public to make wise choices about which airlines they fly as regards the pricing of their tickets.

“Finally, the Federal Ministry of Aviation assures Nigerians that their interests with regard to safety, security, comfort, service and affordability will remain our priority,” Obi said.
Meanwhile, the Federal Airports Authority of Nigeria (FAAN) has said that it will start the sale and review of slots at the MMIA, Lagos.

The agency said in a statement that: “As you are aware, FAAN is renovating and upgrading their airports. These efforts will require a review of current slot allocations and additional funding. Towards this end, FAAN is considering applying commercial slot rates for slots into Murtala Mohammed International Airport in the spirit of Bilateral Air Services Agreement.”

http://www.thisdayonline.com/

ChinenyeN:
Over-reacting unnecessarily aren't you? The "north", "south", "east" etc. is nothing more than simple categorization. You should know this. It is just like how I am Ngwa, and you are Ukwuani; two separate and unrelated peoples, but as fate and oyibo design would have it, we're both categorized as "Igbo".

Over-reacting? Not in the slightest. when you categorize, you lump "unrelated people" together as if they are related that is wht people get "ansy" like you do when others try and lump your people's history with Nri. We all know that the relation of Ngwa to Ukwuani is the same as the relation of Ngwa to Ashanti or fulani.

Because peace does not exist within nigeria.

tpia@:
True that.

oluku. Next thing u go complain when we mention your people or enter your threads. Anyway, I will try to make sure im the first one of us to enter.

ChinenyeN:
By the way, some of you get unnecessarily antsy over the mention of "north" or "south" or "eastern" etc. for no real reason at all. Why?

Because then you are lumping those who are "not the same" together. IS that something that "we" were all against, a sort of a unification? There can be no sort of north,south,east. . .if we are individual by clan and village groups.

There is no such thing as southern or northern Igbo.Also, stop singling out anambra amd enugu.

tpia@:
Chyz

stop reading unnecessary meanings into my posts and likewise stop following me trying to pick a fight.

I made an informed observation which you're free to disagree with and in case you didnt notice, i did converse in absolutes like your brothers who i responded to did.

Whatever the case,just thought I'd make that clear. Stop being a hypocrite.

From minimynimo:

I can only say among all the tribes in Nigeria, The Igbos are the least fused, unified or wha'ever. Am igbo but I dare say we the ones I believe CANNOT govern ourselves should Nigeria break apart. We will simply degenerate to intra-genocide.

Before we were clumped into nigeria were we killing and fighting amonst each other? The answer in NO. Since that was the case then, why do you think we would kill each other if we went back to how we use to be,decentralized, when it is clear that it works for us? Also, even in nigeria, we are not killing each other but having disputes(political,clannish, ).

From Tpia:

Why do some igbos keep harping what they feel they know about ijebu?

Mostly making erroneous statements to boot.

Learn to know when you're in a wind up and try to diffentiate between what you hear or are told and what actually obtains.

@Tpia

Next time you make sure you do the same when mentioning something like the below. .

as per the ikwerre reference- i know its a sore point but are you sure the current names arent actually supposed to be the ones which most closely match their traditions.

Ru commonly begins place names in parts of central africa.

It has nothing to do with Anioma. OP, you are funny. Are you even Igbo?

HBD and many years to come.

ChinenyeN:
I honestly don't get why Igbo here on NL must constantly make references to Yoruba and Hausa peoples.

Thank you.

tpia@:
not really true.

yes really true. Now scram.

^^^
Everything that goes against a particular hemisphere when it comes to its non-"positive" involvent in an african country, is seen as a "conspiracy theory" to some african slaves or junkies.

1luvkipsus:
If we condemn this award for Dangote then we are not appreciating the great works this man is doing.Dangote remains the greatest employer of labor after the Fed.govt.and he deserves every single honor.These are the people that truely deserve the award.I'm even wondering,why awarding people like Achebe?how have they touched lives?

He's a business man who is trying to maintain an unfair monopoly which cripples nigeria's economy, he has to employee people.

To asked how Achebe has touch lives shows that you have never step out of nigeria let alone you state. smh.

afam4eva:
Was Obasanjo's administration not as bad? Let's be sincere with ourselves.

Bros, the thing that OBJ had but Jonathan lacks is balls.

This is simply nepotism of the elites and jonathan,although low ranking, is one of them. Is Dangote not a part of the FG? Is he no longer on the National  Economic Management Team? How about awarding real entrepreneaurs who are not overnight billionaires with uncladestined political connections?

Abagworo:
To start with I have always been a defender of Igbo unity on Nairaland but I seem to have arrived a dead end as it seems culturally we are not the same people.The artificial ethnic creation seems to have been founded on Nri/Awka hegemony and other so-called Igbos sheepishly following them.

There is nothing like Igbo unity.All so-called Igbos from Imo,Abia,Rivers and parts of Ebonyi have little or nothing in common with Anambra and Enugu.An Anambra man can barely understand what an Ngwa,Mbaise,Owerri,Oguta,Abiriba,Afikpo,Ohafia,Item, and most other Southern Igbos speak.We understand them though.

They refuse to marry from Southern Igbo on grounds of different blood lines.I even think most of Delta Igbos (apart from Ibuzor who are Isu) seem to belong to the same stock as Nri/Awka while most of the Rivers and Akwa-Ibom Igbos are of same stock as Isu/Oru.

I have also noticed that while most Southern Igbos might see Enugu,Ekwulobia or Igboukwu as part of us,the Northern Igbos try as much as possible to despise Owerri,Umuahia and Aba.

I also noticed that they condemn Onitsha and Abakaliki people which confirms Onitsha and Abakaliki as also a different stock from them.

This has to stop or we will end up as we were in the past as small independent ethnic groups.

Dude,calm down. You are not mentioning anything that is not common within other ethnic groups in nigeria.

chino11:
The guys governor is a mega failure. He does not have focus. Am sure it was because of Ikemba Nnewi sympathy and Anambra influence that gave him the government house. Imagine appointing a chief comedian and 'lagos' affair as commissioners, it goes to show his shallowness in the business of governance, economy management and his mockery approach towards leading a state.

Alj haram u dey funny with your fake ID ooo. I been noticing you are not Igbo since. BTW, what is your obsession with anambra state? That is the first place you claimed when you were saying you are half Igbo, you opened up a tread abt Anambra should be the Manufacturing hub of nigeria, you have Udoka Estate,Anam under your Chino name to "prove" youre Igbo. I dey laugh. I like the way how you are trying to been anambra Igbo against other igbos as if we dont love our brothers. U be funny boy, the maga of mugu!