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nuclearboy:
@Image:

e36991 has opened your vocabulary abi and you too are now writing - "don't throw the baby out with the bath water"? At least NL is helping your grammar even if you're closed to the truth.

@cicero:

The person you name yourself after was considered very wise. One sign of wisdom is to listen/read more than you talk/write. Sadly, you fail in that. I do not believe pastors should be beggarly. But I know they are not "gods" and I know the primary task of the Gospel is outlined in Mark 16. Where pastoral gifts, tithes, first fruit, prophets offering, etc are in that, I would like to be shown. BTW, you asked I read Mark 10: 30 & 31. Did YOU YOURSELF read verse 29? Before you can get the blessings, you have something to do too - leave all these things you wish to claim as rewards, NOT fight for them like your mentors do.

Finally, I like Pastor Adeboye very much. Very very very much and I dare anyone to show me one place where I criticised him directly. That said, if he does the wrong thing, I will say so! He is NOT my Lord. You of course, have the right to keep worshipping men but quick question - what if you find tomorrow that they misbehave? Ever heard of Jimmy Swarggart? or Robert Liardon? Or what if your own anointing outshines them in the next 12 months - will you start worshipping yourself or insist that you cannot be wrong? Think of all that. At least you're not "image123" who's capability to think has been taken up by fear of the OT devourer.

Quote from: cicero on Today at 02:47:08 PM
@Nuclearboy
Have you not read mark 10:30,31? The rewards of Christ starts here on earth that means money well well, houses, lands and yes with persecution. What is persecution? The insults and unfounded accusations heaped on people like Bishop Oyedepo and Pastor Adeboye are persecutions.


So for you, "The rewards of Christ. . .means money well well, houses, lands. . ."
Really. How different are you from:

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. . .people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain. Now there is great gain in godliness with contentment, for we brought nothing into the world, and we cannot take anything out of the world.  But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content.  (9)  But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs. But as for you, O man of God, flee these things. Pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, steadfastness, gentleness. 1 Timothy 6:5-11

Money, land, houses would qualify as the things of this world.

1 John 2:15-17  Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.  (16)  For all that is in the world--the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions--is not from the Father but is from the world.  (17)  And the world is passing away along with its desires, but whoever does the will of God abides forever.

Now a christian does not have control over the kind of persecution he faces, but he can chose which one to accept e.g john baptist and stephen did not incur the wrath of the jews more than paul but they were killed early in their ministeries. While stephen was excited at seeing heavenly vision(acts7), paul chose to hang around and teach(phil.1:23)the same paul in 2cor.11:22-33 lists all the persecutions facing him but he wouldn't accept death at the time because in acts 23 he sought help from the authorities to protect his life and used military escort for awhile. He would have avoided the floggings if he could as in acts 22.

"Now a christian does not have control over the kind of persecution he faces, but he can chose which one to accept"
What do you mean by that inane statement? How about James the brother of John (one of the Apostles) killed by Herod? Paul used military escort? I am flabbergasted, but it goes to show how true this scriptures are with regard to you:
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2 Corinthians 3:14-16  But their minds were hardened. For to this day, when they read the old covenant, that same veil remains unlifted, because only through Christ is it taken away.  (15)  Yes, to this day whenever Moses is read a veil lies over their hearts.  (16)  But when one turns to the Lord, the veil is removed.
A veil covers your heart: the veil of the love of lucre, which is why you make such statements. Paul was a prisoner!
Why did he accept to be one then, since by your theory he should have rejected that?
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Image123:
Cicero
O you don't really understand these people! A majority of them seperate themselves and have not the Spirit. They are in plain churchless and not under any sort of 'authority'. Their view of a man of God is a beggarly, sickly man who can barely pay his transport. They think heaven and lazarus are synonyms.

Theblessed:
[b]Lies, lies and more lies!!

You see, it's your kind that betrayed us during the war - the ''Ikegbunas''.  

Everyone knows Ojukwu opened our eyes and we saw and have been seeing ever since, haven't we If the Hausas and Yorubas have not been wicked, devilish in their ways and hell bent on their Hatred of the Igbos, why up till now (40yrs+ after the war) are they continuously marginalising the Igbos.  Isn't it time they treat Nigeria as one by 'Action' and not by words.

You claimed, the war was not fought on their soil and I assume the impact on them (as they managed to go about their businesses) were lesser compared to the Igbos, during that war.  

In fact, they never lost anything apart from few soldiers which often happens at wars.  So, why are they still hell bent on seeing the Igbos perish if not for their own wickedness of heart which Ojukwu saw and challenged in the first place. And, may I ask since that war, who is holding power in this country and who is in charge of the oil rigs? Is it not them, taking their turns in destroying our country?  What have they achieved for Nigeria ever since, if not lining their own pockets and creating the chaos we have in this country today - armed robbers here, kidnappers there and many Nigerians in diaspora seeking greener pastures? Maybe, you'd attribute this to Ojukwu as well, won't you?

Therefore, in your views, if the Igbos had not done well  considering all the structural inequalities put in place to stop us - I mean, all sorts of obstacles, hindrances, restrictions and limitations stack up against ndi Igbo that we have to manoeuvre to get what we need, I wonder.

And may I ask, how better have they themselves done despite how good they've always had it aside, stealing our money? The oil money is in their hands yet, a rich country like Nigeria is looking like Sudan and Ethiopia put together.  Shame on you for castigating ndi Igbo!!!

God bless Ikemba Emeka Ojukwu and, God bless Ndi Igbo!![/b]

Sky Blue:
8pm Nigerian Time.

Why, because he is president of America or England? Gosh!

Omo Eko:
Come on man, i don't have to be a victim of a despoil to know how the girl feels or the pains she and her family are going through right now but like i said before you cutting his balls wouldn't slove nothing.

debo and ibdat shrapppppppppp

Hoteph:
Accepting that Nigeria is my country is enough sacrifice,

kosovo:
This is what happens when Government main aim is defectum the Nigeria people.
An Act like this is as a result of the jugis of Government to Address the malus peior pessimus nature of our Roads and the insouciant attitude of Government and road maintenance agencies towards finding an holistic approach to all the Problems and pons asinorum associated with Bad roads and road accidents.

I must say that is utter abracadabra, I rest my case.

my misericordia and condolence to the families who lost their loved ones,