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BetaThings: So those who brought Christianity to your land under the force of arms are in hell?
Jesus Christ was approached by a soldier (Roman Centurion) for blessing.

Jesus blessed the soldier but DID not advise him to give up his weapons and leave the Army
The same Jesus DID NOT forget to advise the rich to give up their wealth. He said "it is easier for the camel to enter the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God"

So that is telling. No need for twist and turns

The soldier did not come for salvation, he came for blessing. This does not necessarily mean he requested for prowess to fight. Blessings are of various kinds. Jesus could not have told him to leave the Army. Army was not instituted for religious wars. Every nation has Army to defend them against external attack, economic or political. Would Jesus advise Israel to dismantle its Army when the Arabs could easily come to attack them? It is like telling somebody not to lock his doors when thieves are around.

The rich man came for salvation. What his case required was told him by the true Prophet, Jesus the Son of God.

BetaThings: Nothing!
He can have his fun. No need to spoil it!



Thanks for the correction, You can be EQUALLY yoked, but not UNequally yoked.
Meaning if they are attacking, and you are not, it is unequal and you should not be so yoked with them.
So you need to match any attack with greater ferocity so that you can match the "unbeliever" and be "EQUALLY" yoked with them



Exactly. You further prove my point. Those are the things you say. But reality is different
Otherwise why the blood history, rather than living peacefully!
20m+ dead in Taiping rebellion alone
Your Wars of religion took 30 years!
Your crusade had you smacking your lips as your horses waded in knee-high pool of blood
You tagged along as your colonial soldiers massacred and subdued people all over the world and as soon as bloody "victory" after merciless "victor" was secured, you now stepped forward to deliver your message of "love, peace and salvation"; the message was never ever presented before the brutal conquests
The "Sun Never set of the British Empire" - so also was the reach of your message

Up Simon Bolivar!

You are yet to discover what Christianity is all about. Jesus was killed, His disciples were killed not fighting any war. Anyone who fights for God is not a Christian. Christians are not supposed to slap how much more kill. But don't muslims have the command to kill? Is there not on records?

BetaThings: Hahahaha
But seriously, why do you think these guys violate virtually all the things we are told Christianity stand for
They are judgemental - "thou shall not judge"
They hardly post ion their section and continue to bring up distractions here - "the mole in our eye and the log in theirs"
They attack Muslims at every given opportunity - "turn the other check"
They fabricate tales - "thou shall not bear false witness"
Muslims call infidels - "thou shall not be yoked with the infidels" - (Corithinans)

They need to keep on attacking us as a defensive action. Imagine Muslims opening on Christianity 50% of the number of threads they start on Islam. They need to keep us occupied!
They need the prop of Islam to stand on. when confronted by atheists, they quickly start diverting attention to muslims

What do you guy have to say to "Islamic Injustice" by truthman2012? Dodging?

https://www.nairaland.com/1401015/islamic-injustice

"thou shall not be unequally yoked with unbelivers" means Christians should not do what they are doing, not to kill them like muslims do.

Watching! A kingdom divided against itself shall not stand.

That a person died and his body didn't decay is not in line with the word of God.

God in the bible said after man sinned that ''dust art thou and shall return to the dust''.

This means man's body after death is expected to return to the dust he is made from and become dust. If it didn't become dust because it didn't decay according to God's word, something is wrong somewhere.

@ lilbakar

1. God had no covenant of prophethood with Ishmael, His covenant was with Isaac.

2. As a result, all prophets of God came from the linage of Isaac even up to Jesus.

3. It was nowhere prophesised that God will abrogate His words or laws through another prophet as no prophet was being expected. All prophets observed the same Laws.

4. The Laws that needed to be abrogated had been done by Jesus in his capacity as the Son of God, who is also capable of forgiving men their sins. The abrogated are the Law of Vengeance and the Law of Marriage.

5. God could not have changed His Laws once and changed the same laws again. Never.

Therefore your defence is not acceptable. Shallom.

Nobody is attempting this thing again na.

The muslims pride themselves in quran being the only revealed words of allah. Why is the book full of contradictions and errors, so much so that allah had to be changing and replacing the revelation? Is that the Omniscient God? Keep thinking!!

What in your imagination makes you feel islam is a religion of God? Even Muhammad who claimed he received revelations from allah could not practice it. Can't you see islam is spiritual deception like other false religions?

You will have everlasting regret if you take your intending step. You want to be one of those the bible says will be deceived? Don't be included in the Book of Satan. I pray Satan will not lure you into error.

snubish: another classical pre adolescent clearvessel thread. there's nothing clear about the vessel. it's a blocked vessel filled with ignorance, puke, and pus. re writing the bible and misquoting the Quran in broad daylight even after being clearly shown the truth. condemning people to hell. it should be obvious to anyone by now that this is no serious fellow just a silly clown with access to the internet. and do you relate with Muslims in real life or do you have Muslim relatives? your conduct on this forum has been low thus far to say the least. I motion to move thread to thrash section.

Thank you so very much. No doubt you are an expert in abuses. You are an high ranked abuser. Good of you.

maclatunji: It is nebulous to say any man is perfect including Jesus (AS). He had a limited mission and it is duplicitous for you to seek to accept some parts of the Quran and hadith as your sources whilst ignoring others.

Why did God send Muhammad (A. S. ) after Jesus (A.S.), so many reasons. Here is one:

Volume 9, Book 93, Number 507:
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet said, "Allah will gather
the believers on the Day of
Resurrection in the same way (as they
are gathered in this life), and they
will say, 'Let us ask someone to
intercede for us with our Lord that He
may relieve us from this place of
ours.' Then they will go to Adam and
say, 'O Adam! Don't you see the people
(people's condition)? Allah created
you with His Own Hands and ordered
His angels to prostrate before you,
and taught you the names of all the
things. Please intercede for us with
our Lord so that He may relieve us
from this place of ours.' Adam will
say, 'I am not fit for this undertaking'
and mention to them the mistakes he
had committed, and add, "But you d
better go to Noah as he was the first
Apostle sent by Allah to the people of
the Earth.'

They will go to Noah who
will reply, 'I am not fit for this
undertaking,' and mention the
mistake which he made, and add, 'But
you'd better go to Abraham, Khalil Ar-
Rahman.'

They will go to Abraham who will
reply, 'I am not fit for this
undertaking,' and mention to them
the mistakes he made, and add, 'But
you'd better go to Moses, a slave
whom Allah gave the Torah and to
whom He spoke directly' They will go
to Moses who will reply, 'I am not fit
for this undertaking,' and mention to
them the mistakes he made, and add,
'You'd better go to Jesus, Allah's slave
and His Apostle and His Word (Be: And
it was) and a soul created by Him.'

They will go to Jesus who will say, 'I
am not fit for this undertaking, but
you'd better go to Muhammad whose
sins of the past and the future had
been forgiven (by Allah).' So they will
come to me and I will ask the
permission of my Lord, and I will be
permitted (to present myself) before
Him. When I see my Lord, I will fall
down in (prostration) before Him and
He will leave me (in prostration) as
long as He wishes, and then it will be
said to me, 'O Muhammad! Raise your
head and speak, for you will be
listened to; and ask, for you will be
granted (your request); and intercede,
for your intercession will be
accepted.' I will then raise my head
and praise my Lord with certain
praises which He has taught me, and
then I will intercede. Allah will allow
me to intercede (for a certain kind of
people) and will fix a limit whom I
will admit into Paradise.
I will come back again, and when I see
my Lord (again), I will fall down in
prostration before Him, and He will
leave me (in prostration) as long as He
wishes, and then He will say, 'O
Muhammad! Raise your head and
speak, for you will be listened to; and
ask, for you will be granted (your
request); and intercede, for your
intercession will be accepted.' I will
then praise my Lord with certain
praises which He has taught me, and
then I will intercede. Allah will allow
me to intercede (for a certain kind of
people) and will fix a limit to whom I
will admit into Paradise, I will return
again, and when I see my Lord, I will
fall down (in prostration) and He will
leave me (in prostration) as long as He
wishes, and then He will say, 'O
Muhammad! Raise your head and
speak, for you will be listened to, and
ask, for you will be granted (your
request); and intercede, for your
intercession will be accepted.' I will
then praise my Lord with certain
praises which He has taught me, and
then I will intercede. Allah will allow
me to intercede (for a certain kind of
people) and will fix a limit to whom I
will admit into Paradise. I will come
back and say, 'O my Lord! None
remains in Hell (Fire) but those whom
Qur'an has imprisoned therein and
for whom eternity in Hell (Fire) has
become inevitable.' "
The Prophet added, "There will come
out of Hell (Fire) everyone who says:
'La ilaha illal-lah,' and has in his
heart good equal to the weight of a
barley grain. Then there will come out
of Hell (Fire) everyone who says: ' La
ilaha illal-lah,' and has in his heart
good equal to the weight of a wheat
grain. Then there will come out of
Hell (Fire) everyone who says: 'La
ilaha illal-lah,' and has in his heart
good equal to the weight of an atom
(or a smallest ant)."

(Bukhari)

You guys should drop it.

Maclatunji,

The way you write, I must acknowledge you an educated person. But unfortunately, secular education is not enough to detect the lies of the Devil. One needs to have the spirit of God, which is known as the gift of discernment of the spirit.

Otherwise, I would have expected you to know that the hadith you quoted is a deception. Why because:

Jesus is said in the quran to be one of those near to allah (Quran 3:45).

Jesus was said by the quran to be faultless (Quran 19:19).

Jesus was said by the quran to be a Messiah (Quran 5:72)

None of the above attributes was given to Muhammad. Jesus was so special to allah that he did not allow people to kill him but Muhammad was allowed to eat poison.

Why therefore will he be more qualified than Jesus to liberate people from hell? I pray the Lord is His mercy will open your spiritual eyes.

lanrexlan: You won't find anything sensible there because you are already a goon and a dolt.

You are the confused soul,trying to put your beliefs in the Quran.

Repentance? Don't you read your bible at all?
Luke 19:27-''But those my enemies who don't want me to reign over them,bring them before me and slay them''.
Luke 12:49-''I have come to send fire on the earth''.
Luke 2:34-''Jesus was sent for the fall of many people''.
Matthew 10:34-''Think not I have came to send peace on earth.I came not to send peace,but by a sword.
He even advised his disciples to sell their garments in order to buy a sword[Luke 22:36].He said He came to make those that see blind[John 9:39]
Can you provide references where our beloved prophet Muhammad(pbuh)killed a person that Allah(swt) has forbidden? The people he killed were during wars and self-defense.About representing the same God,I don't wanna go deeper into details about that,the biblical god is even a great killer.


Can you differentiate between faultless and sinless? Are they even the same?

Chai,as old as you are.Don't you see where your lord failed to stone an adulterous woman because he wasn't free from sin[John 8:7-11]? Was he a good man[Matthew 19:16]?

I hate people talking without references.Produce your proofs and let's see you have something reasonable.....Peace

You displayed so much ignorance more than ever here. It seemed your fast is making you think lowly.

Luke 19:27-''But those my enemies who don't want me to reign over them,bring them before me and slay them''.

Can't you understand that was a parable? The parable was referring to a certain man. How do you guys reason. The more you read the quran, the less intelligent you become? Where did Jesus kill in reality?

Luke 12:49-''I have come to send fire on the earth''. This is a spiritual operations against the forces of darkness. The Devil never had it so tough before Jesus came. Today, any Jesus believer can cast evil spirits out, which you muslims call good Jinn. Besides, it is a figurative statement. How many houses did he set fire on in reality?

Luke 2:34-''Jesus was sent for the fall of many people''. This group of people include the muslims. They are inexcusable for recognizing Jesus wrongly. You believe in Jesus wrongly and there are those in other false religions who don't recognize him at all.

Matthew 10:34-''Think not I have came to send peace on earth.I came not to send peace,but by a sword. This again is a spiritual battle. How many war did he fight? It is also figurative.

Faultlessness means sinlessness as there is nowhere it was recorded Jesus sinned and asked for forgiveness like Muhammad. No prophet in history was committing sins like him. Jehovah God cannot tolerate sins from those who identified with Him. Men of God are expected to be transparently holy. The first thing to know a man of God is whether he indulges in sins or not. We shall know them by their fruits.

Muhammad only hid under self-defence to commit murders. There were many towns and cities he invaded suddenly and kill their men leaving the women and stealing their goods for himself and his jihadists. Which of these were in self-defence?

Quran 9:5] Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

That could not be for self-defence as he was actually looking, searching to kill them.

[Quran 9:73] O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end.

[Quran 9:123] O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).

None of the above verses appear like Muhammad was reacting to first attack.

Jesus came he was not fighting war and did not instruct anyone to fight unbelievers. Now tell me, how would the true God come back to what had been canceled? If killing unbelievers was still in force, why was Jesus not fighting wars? Why would God resume fighting unbeleivers and abandoned the peaceful reconciliation of man to Him brought by Jesus May God open your spiritual understanding.

@RoyPcain

I am not a small boy you think am. My last child is 19 years old.

I was mistaken to believe you are a gentle man who does not like killing innocent soul. But am now faced with the reality that with the spirit of islam, a blood sucking spirit, no muslims can be gentle.

You said you could throw caution to the wind if somebody you love is insulted. Lack of self control and indiscipline occassioned by islamic spirit are the reasons muslims go about troubling the whole world.

What do you consider an insult? Saying what Muhammad did or what he didn't do? Am I the one that called him a sinner or your quran because of his sinful acts? Why was he asking for forgiveness if he was not a sinner? Why should you throw caution to the wind because the truth is said about who you love?

Where did you see Jesus asking for forgiveness? And yet your quran says he is one of those near God (Quran 3:45). It is only a sinner that needs forgiveness.

Back to the original questions:

Why would God send a sinner after a saint?

Why would God lower his standard by making a chronic sinner His prophet?

How did Muhammad qualify as God's prophet as a sinner?

Which of the past prophets was a sinner like Muhammad?

Let me help you simply them if you want to make an attempt to avoid merry-go-round. e.g

1.God sent a sinner after a saint because........(probably there was no man that could live a holy life like past prophets, who would not be sleeping with all kinds of women).

2. God had no choice but lower his standard by making a sinner man His prophet because.......(give your reason).

Follow suit for other questions.

Mintayo: this is a nice topic for anyone who wants to knw d truth!


To b candid, i didnt see any sense in his post too-is so unfrtunate dt these ppl will do anything at all cost to defend islam even if it means going against what their quran says!


The reason why Jesus was without sin was bcus He ws nt born of/by a MAN bcus every man born of or by a man is with sin!
Thank God ur quran also say Jesus was born of d Spirit (of God); THE QUESTION IS CAN ANYONE BORN OF GOD'S SPIRIT SIN??

GOD KNWS D IMPLICATION OF JESUS BEING BORN OF A MAN!


And dis was y Jesus was qualified as d messiah and saviour-it had to b a 'man' without sin.
Lanre was talking abt Jesus saying dt 'ppl shld nt call him good'-bt his biased mind will nt let him c dt Jesus was preaching abt HUMILITY ;it shows how humble Jesus was(tho ppl knw dt He is good,bt He doesnt need to go abt announcing Himself).
THAT MOHAMMED IS WITHOUT SIN IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT!


May God open their eyes!

Amen and amen!

@ lanrexlan

I searched thoroughly and could not find any sense in your post.

If everyone was born sinless, why would allah say Jesus was a faultless son? You guys don't even understand the confusion in your religion.

Where do you see Jesus killing more than Muhammad? Even if he will come to kill unbelievers, has he not given many thousand of years grace for repentance? Was Muhammad not killing the unbelievers without any grace period? Was he not invading towns and villages killing them on the sport? Are Jesus and Muhammad representing the same God by their actions? PLEASE EXPLAIN.

You do not reject the miraculous birth of Jesus because you quran says it but you reject his sinlessness because you need it for defence. So you are free to accept and reject whatever you see in your quran. Take only the ones that please you.

For your information, a fauless son is not the same as a faultless child. Your quran (Pickthal) says a faultless 'SON' A son is a son even at age 90+. Jesus being a faultless son means a faultless man througout his life time. But as usual, you take only what you like in the quran and reject the others.

I know you would not understand Muhammad and his followers sleeping with captives, taking an advantage of them. Where did you see true men of God doing such things? Keep deceiving yourself.

RoyPCain: what debt could anyone owe God Who one do not borrow any corpus from or traded with while He gives everything, freely to believers and disbelievers alike? i haven't came across to many christians forgiving debts of their debtors, instead like the jews and others they charge interests [ribas in Bible at least the OT part, riba in Quran]
is this 'debt' not sin?

below is the truth and the one who is covering the truth knows himself; clearvessel!

you cant hide your sins from God, it will come out of your mouth without commanding you. irony.

I find it soo difficult to respond to your posts. Both the bible and quran say Jesus was sinless. And the quran paints Muhammad as a sinner asking for forgiveness.

What is the moral of your long and irrelevant stories? You haven't learnt to hit the nail on the head despite what people say about you. Defend the allegation raised and not create another allegations. YOU CANNOT SAY MUHAMMAD WAS NOT A SINNER LIKE JESUS BECAUSE HIS SINS ARE ON RECORDS.

If islam is about committing sins and asking forgiveness, it is certain it is a pure, undiluted satanic deception.

Nobody knowingly commits sins and gets forgiveness. Nobody. Mose committed sin of anger and that alone made him not to get to the promised land. The people he was leading made him to be angry and in anger instead of talking to the rock, he stroke it. For that alone, he was punished.

How do you think it is the same God Muhammad was sinning continuosly and was getting forgiveness? Lies of the devil.

The reason people are in islam, is because it costs nothing to be a muslim. You keep committing all sorts of sins in the false belief that you are automatically forgiven if you ask for forgiveness. If it is that easy, everybody will go to heaven. No wonder muslims will be assembled in hellfire as sinners before some will be delivered. Nobody gets delivered in hell. What qualifies you to be in hell makes you to stayed there forever.

God will have mercy on you to see the truth.

RoyPCain: what debt could anyone owe God Who one do not borrow any corpus from or traded with while He gives everything, freely to believers and disbelievers alike? i haven't came across to many christians forgiving debts of their debtors, instead like the jews and others they charge interests [ribas in Bible at least the OT part, riba in Quran]
is this 'debt' not sin?

below is the truth and the one who is covering the truth knows himself; clearvessel!

you cant hide your sins from God, it will come out of your mouth without commanding you. irony.

I find it soo difficult to respond to your posts. Both the bible and quran say Jesus was sinless. And the quran paints Muhammad as a sinner asking for forgiveness.

What is the moral of your long and irrelevant stories? You haven't learnt to hit the nail on the head despite what people say about you. Defend the allegation raised and not create another allegations. YOU CANNOT SAY MUHAMMAD WAS NOT A SINNER LIKE JESUS BECAUSE HIS SINS ARE ON RECORDS.

If islam is about committing sins and asking forgiveness, it is certain it is a pure, undiluted satanic deception.

Nobody knowingly commits sins and gets forgiveness. Nobody. Mose committed sin of anger and that alone made him not to get to the promised land. The people he was leading made him to be angry and in anger instead of talking to the rock, he stroke it. For that alone, he was punished.

How do you think it is the same God Muhammad was sinning continuosly and was getting forgiveness? Lies of the devil.

The reason people are in islam, is because it costs nothing to be a muslim. You keep committing all sorts of sins in the false belief that you are automatically forgiven if you ask for forgiveness. If it is that easy, everybody will go to heaven. No wonder muslims will be assembled in hellfire as sinners before some will be delivered. Nobody gets delivered in hell. What qualifies you to be in hell makes you to stayed there forever.

God will have mercy on you to see the truth.

vedaxcool: This, then, is how you should pray:

“‘Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us today our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation,[a]
but deliver us from the evil one.’

Jesus praying for forgiveness Mathews 10 - 15

Then is insulting someone a sin?

we read,

I believe you just want to say something. What you have said has no meaning at all.

The Bible says Jesus was without sin. The Quran says He was faultless (sinless). There is no place anywhere Jesus was quoted as asking for forgiveness of His sins. He instead was forgiving sins.

IN Matthew 6:9-13
Matthew 6:9
After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

Matthew 6:10
Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

Matthew 6:11
Give us this day our daily bread.

Matthew 6:12
And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

Matthew 6:13
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Jesus was teaching the disciples who were new in the faith. They were yet to come to the fullness of faith. But when they became mature there is no record of such prayer again.

It is the requirement of the true Holy God that all should be perfect:

Matthew 5:48
Be ye perfect even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

The true God would not appoint a sinner as His prophet. Never. If a man was a sinner before is called to be a prophet, he would repent and forsake of forms of sins to be able to serve God. The true God would not permit His prophet to be sinning and repenting on continuous basis like Muhammad was doing.

Why was he a prophet if he was subjecting to sinning even more than his followers?

Was he a good example of godliness to others? What is islamic definition of holiness?

Makapounse: There is answer to every Questions
go 2 d nearst Islamic scholars for appropriate answers not here

So you are in a religion that is obscure to you. Are you gambling with your eternal life. You are to be pitied.

Nobody has been able to provide answers to the questions because of the implications on islam.

Honest answers will lead to the truth that islam is not from God. Therefore Gabriel that spoke to Muhammad was the spirit of his father's religion. This is the reason he directed that allah be worshiped like it was done by idol worshipers in the pre-islamic period. Idol worship re-defined.

F00028: Christians do this.i
but the Messenger of God, Muhammad (pbuh) has expressly forbidden it.

I would not blame you. A man suffering from hypnotism cannot know he has a problem.

I once told you that muslims worship allah the same way Jinns were worshiped in Muhammad's family and gave you proofs. But for spiritual manipulation and hypnotism those proofs didn't matter to you.

I pray you will not die in deception.

Jesus

[Quran 19:19] He said: I am only a messenger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a faultless son(Jesus).

1 Peter 2:21
For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

1 Peter 2:22
Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:

1 Peter 2:23
Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:

1 Peter 2:24
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.


1 Peter 3:18
For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

Both the Bible and Quran testify that Jesus was sinless.


Muhammad

[Quran 110:3] Then hymn the praises of thy Lord, and seek forgiveness of Him. Lo! He is ever ready to show mercy.

Quran 47:19] So know (O Muhammad) that there is no Allah save Allah, and ask forgiveness for thy sin [/b]and for believing men and believing women. Allah knoweth (both) your place of turmoil and your place of rest.

[[b]Quran 40:55] Then have patience (O Muhammad). Lo! the promise of Allah is true. And ask forgiveness of thy sin, and hymn the praise of thy Lord at fall of night and in the early hours.

[Quran 4:106] And seek forgiveness of Allah. Lo! Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.

In the above we can see Muhammad never stopped the habit of commiting sins on continuous basis. It means he was a chronic sinner, who needed to be forgiven.

Why would God send a sinner after a saint?

Why would God lower His standard by making a sinner His prophet?

Which of the prophets was a sinner like Muhammad?

How is Muhammad qualified as God prophet as a sinner?

Note: Any muslims could answer with the usual abuses, which have become the stock in trade in islam.

In all honesty, Islam is the religion of Muhammad's forefathers - The Jinn Religion.

Allah is worshiped the same way they were worshiping Jinns in Muhammad's family before he was born, that is before Islam.

This is the reason the Devil deceives muslims that there are two types of Jinns - the good and the bad jinns. This is simply a spiritual manipulation.

Muslims consult the so-called good jinns through charms (hontu tira etc).

There are no good jinns anywhere, they are simply demons, the fallen angels.

King harzyz: No. This is not true. However, this is a common misconception in the minds of many people. The
Qur'an declares:
There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error (Qur'an
2:256).
This Qur'anic verse shows that God has made truth and falsehood distinct from each other and
people are therefore free to choose one or the other. No one can be forced to believe in a religion
since belief is something very personal. One who follows the Qur'an will not try to force another
person to believe.
Even the prophet Muhammad, on whom be peace, could not force another person to become a
Muslim. God revealed to him the following words:
And if your Lord willed, all who are in the earth would have believed together. Would you then
compel people until they become believers? It is not for any soul to believe except by the
permission of Allah (Qur'an 10:99-100).
This instruction from God makes it clear that anyone is mistaken who thinks that he or she can
compel others to believe. If God wanted, He could make everyone believers, but rather has given
them free choice. Even so, no one can believe upon being forced. It is the grace of God on a
person that will result in belief. Is there a teaching more beautiful than this? How could any true
follower of the Qur'an turn around and force his faith on others? On the contrary, the Qur'an
instructs its followers on how to call people to true faith as follows:
Call unto the way of your Lord with wisdom and fair exhortation, and reason with them in the
better way (Qur'an 16:125).
Where does the Qur'an tell anyone to call people at the point of a sword? It does not. God
instructed his messenger, on whom be peace, as follows:
Say: This is my Way: I invite unto Allah with sure knowledge, I and whosoever follows me
(Qur'an 12:108).
Here again, the call is to be made with sure knowledge, with clear evidence. Putting these
instructions together, a Muslim understands that he or she must present Islam with clear
evidence (i.e. sure knowledge) and use wisdom and fair exhortation to reason with people to
accept the evidence for faith. Where is there any mention of sword in all of this?
The Junior Encyclopedia of Canada says:
Islam is the fastest-growing religion worldwide (The Junior Encyclopedia of Canada, Hurtig
Publishers, Canada, 1990, Vol.2. p.396).
What explains this phenomenon? Who is forcing anyone today to become Muslims? Muslims are
not even engaged in active preaching in any noticeable degree. People are voluntarily coming into
Islam because they find that Islam makes sense.
Huston Smith discusses in his book entitled The World's Religions, on page 256, how the prophet
Muhammad, on whom be peace, granted freedom of religion to the Jews and Christians under
Muslim rule. The prophet had a document drawn up in which he stipulated that Jews and
Christians shall be "protected from all insults and vexations; they shall have an equal right with
our own people to our assistance and good offices," and furthermore, that they shall "practice
their religion as freely as the Muslims" (Quoted in The World's Religions by Huston Smith, Harper
Collins, 1991, p.256). Smith points out that Muslims regard that document as "the first charter of
freedom of conscience in human history and the authoritative model for those of every
subsequent Muslim state" (p.256).
So, was Islam spread by the sword? The following short answer comes from Ira Zepp Jr., a non-
Muslim, in his book entitled A Muslim Primer:
It is unfortunate that Islam has been stereotyped as the 'religion of the sword' or that Islam was
'spread by the sword.' The historical reality is that the expansion of Islam was usually by
persuasion and not by military power. In any case, Islam cannot be forced on anyone; if
profession of the shahadah [i.e. the declaration of Islam] is forced on someone, it is not true
Islam (A Muslim Primer by Ira Zepp, Jr., 1992, Wakefield Editions, US, p.134).

How do you justify your claim in line with these, there are hundreds of them but let me stop at these:

[Quran 9:5] Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[Quran 9:73] O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end.

[Quran 9:123] O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).

Note: The above verses are not in self-defence.