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Christianity EtcRe: "Don't be afraid of tattoos." POPE FRANCIS by clefstone(m): 11:00pm On Mar 24, 2018
An interesting stance by the holy father
TV/MoviesRe: Live: Big Brother Naija 2018 (Double Wahala) BBNaija Live Thread by clefstone(m): 3:19pm On Mar 24, 2018
Geezeem:
Rico is for nobody and for everybody

Such people can't be trusted .....he is pally pally to all

He doesn't volunteer gist about himself except it involves poverty story

He has never shown real emotions ....not even under the influence

He has made no real friends there....we had thought he had a crush on Bambam

And liked Ceece .....both girls he nominated

He hides in the kitchen to prevent trouble

He doesn't join the guys in playing games

He happens on private discussions and moments to pry

He refused the dice game so he can keep hiding (at least he turned it down when I was watching)

The was he ran to clean Alex's vomit yesterday with all glee and energy.....who puts up that

Zeal to clean a vomit of someone they ain't even that close to huh......not even Leo would

I can go on and on... I don't even want to bother with listening in to Alex's drunk talks last night

Two months after alot of peeps are yet to figure out what his real game plan is undecided

But if you know, you know grin
Rico is the fakest niqqa in that house. The way he talks is even fake, like he is reading a damn script. He comes across as those kids who grew up not speaking pidgin but now want to suddenly speak street pidgin. Fake guy
PoliticsRe: What Nigerians Expect From Muslims by clefstone(m): 10:35am On Mar 24, 2018
ItsMeAboki:
Before I would respond to your dumb question you must equally agree that all those wayward pastors and priests who indulge in the following are also Christians practising the doctrines of Christianity:

1. asking their congregations to suck their penis, eat grass, drink kerosene, handle poisonous rattle snakes etc.
2. anointing women in the vagina with their phallus (aka fvcking them), holding the males by their balls, handling
females by their breasts; also stamping, jumping, walking on top of their members etc.
3. Raping young children (Paedophilia) including homosexuality especially by Catholic priests.
4. practising juju by killing and burying victims under their church building foundations along with charms and
other fetish items
Just a few examples - more to come if necessary.
Yes, pastors have done those things you have mentioned and even worse and they will probably do more. The difference my brother is that Christians condemn these pastors and even post their atrocities here on nairaland and when u read comments from xtians on these pastor's atrocities you don't see comments like 'these are not Christians', wht u see is total condemnation of the acts.
On the other hand, Muslims are usually quick to say BH are not Muslims, ISIS are not Muslims. And there was a nostalgic attempts by the so called 'true Muslims' to twist the narrative to make Nigerians believe that some BH members caught were Christians especially at the early stages of the insurgency.
Now let's assume BH are not Muslims and are profaning Islam. We have seen hundreds of people lynched and killed in the North just for allegedly saying non complimentary stuff about Islam and/or its Prophet, now why has that passion for Islam up north not seen total destruction of the group by the youth who are quick to behead a Christian who blasphems against Islam.
PoliticsRe: Mama Boko Haram Is Igbo Woman - Vanguard - Pic by clefstone(m): 9:09pm On Mar 23, 2018
I heard her speak today on channels tv and her accent is nothing close to that of an Igbo person.
PoliticsRe: ”lying Is The Most Consistent Achievement Of Professor Osinbajo” – Reno Omokri by clefstone(m): 12:17am On Mar 21, 2018
gtown:
Reno is a traitor. He is one of those making huge money by selling nigeria's secrets to other countries. He is an agent of CIA. He pretended he was with jonathan, only to be sending to his principals whatever were going on in nigeria top secrets administrative circle. He is a fugitive and a self exile dude reeling out noise from his hide out as a cover up for his atrocities against the nigeria state and to make his extradition looks political whenever the nigeria state makes a move toward. That was why in a recent altercation with his fellow top notche in business, FFK called him by his name, a traitor and a fugitive.
Before 2015 and in build up to 2015 he made attempt to frame up some innocent nigeria in Boko Haram mess using psydo name. Thank God, his identity was immediately burst up. Yet, this is a dude who claims he is a professional pastor and is even calling mr VP a 'lier'
how come u didn't tell us this a week ago? Oh, because FFK made an allegation without any proof you just swallowed it hook, line and sinker. That is the stuff of Zombies
PoliticsRe: ”lying Is The Most Consistent Achievement Of Professor Osinbajo” – Reno Omokri by clefstone(m): 12:13am On Mar 21, 2018
I cut cap for u Mr Omokri. Osinbajo either lied or was misled to say those things he said. How could he have said that GEJ's administration spent only #150bn on infrastructure. Plain silly. The truth is that the Buhari's administration has not and cannot achieve a quarter of those things listed by Reno which were achieved in d last administration. I like the part where he said Osinbajo is elevated above his competency.
CultureRe: Emmanuel Ekemejewan Sideso's 10th Coronation Anniversary As The Ovie Of Uvwie by clefstone(m): 2:41pm On Mar 17, 2018
mathy001:
Many Urhobo clans never fancied monarchies. What was in vogue was gerontocracy or otherwise quipped as ekpako r'Urhobo oyin Ivie r'Urhobo (Urhobo elders are Urhobo Kings). We also had a few cases of plutocracy.

Taking care of a king was expensive and tasking and so the Urhobos of old were not interested in setting up kingdoms. They were satisfied with the wisdom of the elders in arbitration and administration.

It was in the colonial period that many of the so-called kingdoms were created due to the British policy of indirect rule. The British wanted a direct leader that they could use for their own good and so they mandated all the Urhobo polities to set up kingdoms. That is why some of these kingdoms are fairly new.

However, there are exceptions to the foregoing. Some historical monarchies, heriditary even, exist in Urhoboland. The Ughelli Kingdom can trace their heriditary monarchy to the very first king that reigned when they arrived their present location (and they have had more than 10 kings). Same goes for Okpe, Agbarha, Olomu, and others. Historians are yet to publish many works on the history of these kingdoms and that is why they seem not to have a long line of kings. But rest assured that if you look for them, you will find them. Urhobo kingship was never about subjugation or conquest as obtained in many other polities. It was primarily for arbitration, consultation and other ritualistic functions. The Ivie
never sought to increase their territories or wage wars. They were mainly charismatic figures who garnered respect.

Finally, stop making sweeping generalisations on monarchies in an ethnic group. You have to research thoroughly and consult the people before you assume anything. Some groups, probably due to early contacts with the Europeans, have documented kings but others did not have such luck but that is not to say kings did not exist in those polities. Luckily for us, many Urhobo scholars are researching into our past and many more findings will be made.
what u wrote are mostly speculations. Oral traditions are usually strong in Africa and most historical kingdoms in Africa hv rich oral histories. The Urhobos on the other hand are weak in this regard. No rich oral history to be enjoyed by the people and visitors. I am saying this because I grew up among Urhobos and in Urhobo land. Now as a grown up I think to myself, why didn't I ever hear of a great historical Urhobo figure like a great king or warrior. I'm not trying to be anti-urhobo(actually I can't be) but there are a lot of questions begging for answers

I have come to the conclusion that the Urhobo people at the start of colonization were a group of people, not well organized, possibly constantly migrating and primeval, lacking an organized system of govt(this u alluded to) and maybe subject of another group most likely the Benin Kingdom. Correct me where I'm wrong

cc efewestern
CultureRe: Emmanuel Ekemejewan Sideso's 10th Coronation Anniversary As The Ovie Of Uvwie by clefstone(m): 2:24pm On Mar 17, 2018
Efewestern:
@Bolded, let me help you out. there is no Urhobo kingdom that Is not at least 600-400years old , agbon Kingdom for example has produced up to 7-10 kings and I can get the names for you if you so wish.
7-10 kings would equal not more than 100yrs. That's a very short period indeed.
CultureRe: Emmanuel Ekemejewan Sideso's 10th Coronation Anniversary As The Ovie Of Uvwie by clefstone(m): 11:38pm On Mar 16, 2018
fratermathy:
Ovie r'Uvwie, wo su ntor!

He is one of the most important kings in Urhoboland and he controls one of the largest kingdoms. Most of what we know as present day Warri is under his domain. His kingdom is also 100% urbanised, making Uvwie a center of Urhobo civilisation.

He is royalty personified! A true scion and advocate of Urhobo!

Umogu! Umogu! Wo sun tor, Wo rhie tor!

Happy 10th anniversary! Your reign has been peaceful and impactful.

Uvwie wadoo!


Lko
Opharhe
Onosprince
DBriteLitehouse
Scionofurhobo
Caringguy
I grew up in Uvwie but I'm surprised that the Uvwie and indeed the Urhobo people do not talk about their history to as far back as 200yrs ago. Since u r a proud Urhobo son, my question to u is, do the Urhobo people have a long history, why don't we have an urhobo kingdom(exception is Okpe kingdom) with up to 10 kings in their history
TravelRe: 21 Celebrities Who Own Private Jets by clefstone(m): 4:29pm On Mar 14, 2018
no Dammy crane d credit card thief?
PoliticsRe: Burial Site For 73 Victims Of Fulani Herdsmen.. Courtesy CAN Benue State. by clefstone(m): 11:59am On Mar 11, 2018
and to think the state voted Buhari.......hmmmmm
TV/MoviesRe: 5 Reasons Why Big Brother Nigeria Is Fake by clefstone(m): 2:39pm On Mar 10, 2018
No way BBA Nigeria is scripted. It may be influenced but certainly not scripted.
TV/MoviesRe: BBNaija: Nina Had MouthAction With Miracle by clefstone(m): 9:23am On Mar 09, 2018
bisola 2.0
CultureRe: Itsekiri Names And Their Meaning by clefstone(m): 5:07pm On Mar 06, 2018
Efewestern:
Uvwie for sure migrated from several urhobo subgroups but definitely not Itsekiri, they only married themselves.

Re u urhobo?
my mom is Uvwie and I grew up there so let's just say I'm partly Uvwie/Urhobo
CultureRe: Itsekiri Names And Their Meaning by clefstone(m): 1:56pm On Mar 06, 2018
Efewestern:
I get your point, just want to know the origin of the name , I already found out that Majemite is an itsekiri word, it's a common name in Urhobo.

Fregene Is also another common itsekiri name in Okpe.
it is mostly the Uvwies and Okpes that bear Itsekiri names
CultureRe: Itsekiri Names And Their Meaning by clefstone(m): 1:54pm On Mar 06, 2018
Efewestern:
Is Abugewa yoruboid?, cous it's a common name in Okpe and Uvwie.

Uvwie has a great influence in your language, Example Dolor is an uvwie word for money, thou some part make use of E'kowa.
Uvwie people bear Itsekiri names such as Majemite. I believe that Uvwie people don't have a common ancestry, they must have migrated to their present location from Urhobo, Okpe and Itsekiri areas
CrimeRe: Lady Disgraced For Stealing At A Wedding In Delta (Photos) by clefstone(m): 8:50am On Mar 06, 2018
kabrud:
Look at what a human being wore to a gathering in the name of freedom, as if that is not enough, she ended up stealing. And this is certainly one of the human beings against decent dressing. If you talk, they will tell you God knows her heart and those that cover themselves do worse. What can be worse than a human deliberately behaving like an animal? Typical of flats.
you have embarrassed yourself this morning
simply because u refused to read before commenting.
Christianity EtcBenny Hinn's Confession And The Danger Of Pentecostalism by clefstone(op): 11:22pm On Mar 04, 2018
Recently, the polpular televangelist Pastor Benny Hinn confessed that he took the prosperity gospel too far and that what he taught was not in sync with the Bible. He further went on to reveal that as time went on he came to realize that he was wrong.
when I read his thoughts here on nairaland what immediately came to my mind was those that he has influenced by his teachings over the years, people that include big time Pastors like our own Pastor Oyakhilome who has gone on to help spread Mr Hinn's falsehood to millions. As a teenager in the university, I had the opportunity to attend a believer love world's fellowship (the school fellowship of Pastor Chris' Christ Embassy) meeting. What they taught at that fellowship was to me shallow, a prosperity centered version of Christianity, Christianity without the cross. It was Benny Hinn speaking through them.
Now what happens to all those who have modelled their lives according to the teachings of Pastor Hinn. That is where the danger of pentecostal churches based on one man ideology lies. Their belief may change and their followers will realize they have been living a lie.
PoliticsRe: Tunde Sabiu, Buhari's Nephew Is A Billionaire At 20 - Junaid Mohammed by clefstone(m): 9:17pm On Mar 02, 2018
yarimo:
Every blessing day Junaid muhammed keep posting false allegations with out providing evidence to back up his claim undecided
what evidences were provided for u to believe all that were alleged against Jonathan and his administration. Hypocritical zombie
PoliticsRe: Abdulkarim Dauda & Mike Okiro's Leaked Phone Conversation On Police Promotion by clefstone(m): 7:50am On Mar 02, 2018
doctokwus:
So what!So you would have stuck with a Jonathan?
Oga,abeg shift Jor!
Don't be silly boy. Jonathan meant well for Nigeria but people like u were blinded and deceived by the elitist media propaganda against a good man
PoliticsRe: NNPC: Nigeria Now World’s Largest Petrol Importer by clefstone(m): 7:22am On Mar 02, 2018
what about China and India. I smell subsidy fraud
Christianity EtcRe: Share The First Verse Of Your Favorite Christian Hymn by clefstone(m): 11:52am On Feb 18, 2018
NORSIYK:
Just as I am, without one plea,
But that Thy blood was shed for me,
And that Thou bidst me come to Thee,
O Lamb of God, I come, I come.
.
.
.
The greatest song ever written
God bless u. This song is the greatest communion hymn ever. It just humbles me and it's like I'm telling God I am not worthy, I am a sinner but he tells me to come to him and indeed I come. Great great hymn. I was hoping it wud be on the first page and here it is. God bless u
Nairaland GeneralRe: What's The Name Of This Insect by clefstone(m): 10:22am On Feb 13, 2018
davillian:
Messy messy
you be warri boy, no doubt
TV/MoviesRe: Live: Big Brother Naija 2018 (Double Wahala) BBNaija Live Thread by clefstone(m): 9:38am On Feb 13, 2018
Afam4eva:
I think you're the same person that i'm thinking.
I know what u r thinking
TV/MoviesRe: Live: Big Brother Naija 2018 (Double Wahala) BBNaija Live Thread by clefstone(m): 9:31am On Feb 13, 2018
Afam4eva:
Which part? Ukwuani or the Warri axis?
from Ukwuani axis but grew up in Warri axis. Y u dey ask?
CelebritiesRe: Pregnant Toolz And Husband At Omotola's 40th Birthday Party, Fans React by clefstone(m): 9:29am On Feb 13, 2018
sladimeji:
Minna own has gate
it doesn't have a proper fence n gate
TV/MoviesRe: Live: Big Brother Naija 2018 (Double Wahala) BBNaija Live Thread by clefstone(m): 9:19am On Feb 13, 2018
Afam4eva:
Are you from Rivers state?
no, Delta state, the home of unrefined pidgin
TV/MoviesRe: Live: Big Brother Naija 2018 (Double Wahala) BBNaija Live Thread by clefstone(m): 9:14am On Feb 13, 2018
Dezenazil:
Mina are the only ones in the house that wants to learn and improve, others are just too puffed up. They feel they know it all and are good the way they are. We all saw T boss grow on last year's show, from a person who didn't know much and couldn't do much to the star of of the show. They were nominating her and Nigerians who loved despite her flaws believed in her and kept voting for her. I wasn't a fan of her's but she made utmost use of those saves and improved herself to much that I became amazed. She actually became a good actor curtsey of the show. Mina might not know much but if given the chance will surely learn a whole lot. They are humble and are learning. Even Ifu yesterday during the rask did acknowledge miracles contributions to their task presentation. No one deserves to be written off.
3bear-bear spotted
TV/MoviesRe: Live: Big Brother Naija 2018 (Double Wahala) BBNaija Live Thread by clefstone(m): 5:35pm On Feb 12, 2018
Akthedream112:
SINGLE WAHALA AND NOW DOUBLE WAHALA... LOL
Denrele has a slot in big brother. At least one hm in a season always hv close relationship with him. Beverly, Lillian, Khloe, Melvin. I seriously believe there is a closet LGBT community in Nigeria and the organizers of BB are linked to them. Remember there was a time Uti was rumoured to be in a gay relationship with Alex Ekubo, and Melvin had some gay tendencies in his season. Even Tayo is a suspect
RomanceRe: How Many Men Get Married As Virgins? by clefstone(m): 3:56pm On Feb 12, 2018
lefulefu:
a guy as such isn't a virgin
what about a woman that has had lesbian intercourse but has not has penetrative heterosexual intercourse. Is she still a virgin?
RomanceRe: How Many Men Get Married As Virgins? by clefstone(m): 1:40pm On Feb 12, 2018
NairaMaster1:
Have you heard of a virgin land? Does land has hymen? Hymen is biological/anatomical. The word virgin is literal please.
You comment very intelligent and accurate but the hymen thing is not as presented.
i know d dictionary definition of the word virgin applies to both men and women but to me it's more deep than that. Would u consider a guy that masturbates but has never had penetrative sex with a woman a virgin?

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