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sevenhundred:
supreme court say only court can order for re run

Which one? I hope it's not the Supreme Court of Gomorrah?!

Donmedra:
Mhen Nigeria is finished, inec is quick to announce plateau where APC won but has suspended collation in sokoto and bauchi because PDP is winning.

Nobody has Even heard of Benue again

But the same INEC has suspended collation in Kano where APC is reportedly winning. Is Nigeria finished or still remaining?

specter:
All PDP need do is win at the court of appeal. Once they can tackle issues for determination at the first appellate court, they are home and dry. Supreme Court hardly up turns concurrent judgements.

There were concurrent Tribunal and Court of Appeal judgements in Wike's own, yet Supreme Court upturned them. Several issues come to play in Supreme Court's decisions.

UPDATE:
On APC's claim that Senator Ademola Adeleke was not qualified to contest the Governorship election, the TRIBUNAL ruled that they failed to provide any evidence as proof of the allegation. The TRIBUNAL maintained that he that alleges must prove.

While this is not to say that Saraki engaged the culprits for the actual armed robbery acts, what is obvious here are suspects doing their best to free themselves from criminal charges.

Accused persons would almost always turn around to deny their confessional statements at the beginning of their trials. It's often a sure thing they would do, except the ones that do not have a good legal representation.
It's usually their first step at attempting to get off the hook. Even Chukwudi Onuamadike Evans is currently denying criminal charges against him, after having pleaded guilty initially.

It's a usual thing in criminal trial. Judges and prosecutors are not fascinated by incidents like this. Only those not conversant with criminal prosecution would be moved.

At the end, many of them still end up being found guilty and getting convicted of the crimes, if the Prosecution do their work diligently anyway.

Grace001:
Mr oga leave matter for Matthias. Born again Christian indeed. Is it not the same born wuru-wuru people like you that always sing the song of “ Touch not my anointing” whenever the likes of Daddy freeze criticize this so called money focused pastors.so it’s now that you know osibanjo is not a real pastor because he is not one of your favorite daddy GOs

All I see is hypocrite, check yourself before you talk about others because you’re the DG of hypocrite. 95% of Nigerian Christians are nothing but a hypocrite.

I seriously doubt if you ever read his post before you made this comment. If you read it, then you need a lesson in Comprehension.

zoedew:
The malady that afflicted PDP when it failed to present Akin Ogunbiyi its best candidate who looked set to defeat APC in the guber is unexplainable.

I tell you, the greatest undoing of PDP is their penchant for presenting not wholly presentable candidates. If PDP had presented Akin Ogunbiyi, the rest would be history by now; Osun would have been in their hands since September 2018.

The same mistake they made by featuring Ganiyu Ola-oluwa, a person widely reputed for his academic and intellectual deficiencies against APC's Dr Ajibola Basiru, the former Attorney General, in the Osun Central Senatorial contest.

Osun people are still really angry against Aregbesola. To be candid, Aregbesola seriously damaged Osun people's psyche against APC. Osun was an undisputed stronghold of the APC. That was between 2011 and 2014. But Aregbesola overrated and overreached himself. He and his Tinubu cult of Lagos took the people for granted.

Talk of being full of oneself and arrogant?! He rode on a voyage of self-will, closing his ears against the people's cry. He disregarded the civil servants, serving and retired, thinking he had the the masses always in his pocket, regardless of the cries and protests of the working class.

The error of his judgement now stares him in the face and his Party is now suffering for it.

PDP would have taken over the State since September 2018, if they had presented a more acceptable gubernatorial candidate and if there were not too many opposition candidates dividing votes unnecessarily.

The only saving grace for the APC not to lose the State to opposition in the next four years is if the current Governor perform to the acceptance of the people. Any thing other than that, I see PDP taking over Osun State in the next four years.

Honorable Oluwole Oke of PDP has just been declared winner of Obokun/Ori-Ade Federal Constituency of Osun State's House Of Reps. election. He defeated Dr Siji Ademiju of APC to win the seat for the record fourth time.

chrisifeanyi:
Everyone that didn't vote buhari in 2015, won't vote him in 2019 and not everyone that voted the lifeless cow in 2015 will still vote him in 2019. Atiku will surely win

You have committed the fallacies of hasty generalisation and conclusion! I didn't vote for Buhari in 2015 but I will vote for him in 2019.

frankman365:
Tinubu is just a fantastically corrupt human. Same issue CJN has is what tinubu was tried for by the Jonathan govt but court ruled that tinubu had already accepted it was a mistake not to have declare the assets. Can tinubu go to the USA and come back?
Using Lagos as his family inheritance.

I wasn't attracted to the content of your comment until I got to your amusing question: "Can tinubu go to the USA and come back?". Please kindly tell me what could have prompted this question in your mind. Is it infantile reasoning or ignorant gaffe? Or you were just thrown down from Pluto into this world by an accidental work of nature for you to just think that Tinubu can not go to America? What an amusement!

Lawyers' own protest should be by way of lawsuit in court of law, using the instrumentality of law, not by boycott like labour union or civil society group. NBA is a professional body, not a Labour Union.

The Senate seem to recognize this fact more than our learned gentlemen and have chosen the more noble path of approaching the Supreme Court to seek legal redress.

The NBA should not forget that there are members of the Association whose view and standpoint on the Onnoghen saga are on the side of the FG and are arguing differently. These set of people also deserve to act along their own point of view. If the battle gets to Court, it's still the bonafide members of the Bar that would argue on the part of the Executive arm of Government.

There is no amount of protest or boycott that would change the status quo, the whole saga is a matter to be determined judicially in the long run.

If the FG refuse to be moved to shift ground after the two-day courts boycott, is NBA Exco going to direct their members to proceed on indefinite boycott of courts? Obviously, the effect would be more against the Bar than it would be against the Government. I'm sure that by that time, NBA would witness the greatest disobedience and the stiffest opposition from their own members nation-wide! This is because it would touch on their personal economic survival more than it does professional.

NBA should quickly recognize this fact, this battle can only be won in the court of law with legal fireworks than on the streets of protest and court boycott. How do you challenge the alleged Constitution violation by staying away from courts saddled with interpretation of Constitution? NBA should kindly toe the path of the Senate by approaching the court of law.

A far-reaching decision is not likely today, from all indications. There are much issues to deliberate upon on the Onnoghen matter alone that may make the meeting protract beyond one sitting of today. The NJC would not like to make a hasty decision that would be another subject matter of controversial constitutional debate. Justice Ayo Salami issue comes to mind.

The Tribunal Chairman seems to hold that the Stay of Proceedings Order by the Court of Appeals is not in order but that he only obeyed out of respect for the Court. It's deductable from his statement that he felt he was not under obligation to obey the order.

Atiku has made his biggest political image gain in this contest by going to America. But if he fail to appear in this debate, it is a serious low for him. It would have been a good mileage for him over Buhari. If he had come, it would not determine his winning, though.

May be Atiku would walk in majestically as the debate progresses, may be.

Tommy4christ:
Happy New Year, Brothers and Sisters in the Lord! I'm new on this forum and I enjoy interactions going on here.

Happy new year to you,too! You're highly welcome. Enjoy your moments with others here.

DonFreshmoney:
Nice one.. u can't be inciting violence through words like O toge, and expect peace to reign. APC is a scam.

How are words like "Ó tó gé" inciting violence?!

Neddyogu:
Mark zuck was born in '84. No be ur mate. If u were born after '91, u belong to the 'indomie generation'. It is not a crime tho, it ain't ur fault. There's nothing u could have done to prevent it. People born in the 60s and 70s still look down on us the 80s kids as "children" not to talk of a mere 27 year old. At 27 how many people's school fees have u paid?

Ha ha?! Baba!!!

MariaLavina:
Lol I no get elder brother, nah dove-like elder sister I get we are just so different! she's too gentle the family's good girl *rolls eyes*
But I get three younger brothers still their craze no reach my own oooo . If I change am for them ehn . Let's just say then I was the jagaban of my family. Until I gave my life to Christ



I'm not changing it, its been like that for over 13 years now. Name so he go dey. But I stopped playing rough since then. I changed to playing pranks

You "gave your life to Christ"?! Congratulations! That means you became born against ....Oh, Sorry! I mean you don born again!!!

grandstar:
Amaechi here seemed to b e replying a critic of the president

That the president is immune to criticism

Oga, you don veer off your thread o!���

Uglyaddy:
Why is this useless APC-UK so worried and concerned about Atiku's whereabout?

They are not concerned about the security challenges we are facing.

They are not concerned about the lopsoding economy.

They are not concerned about the corruption going on in this administration.

They were not concerned when the president was in UK for months for an undisclosed illness.

They are not worried about ASUU strike not NLC a pit to embark on another strike.

They are not concerned about the continuous suicidal act people are committing daily due to hardship.

They were not concerned about the Governor of Kano State receiving $5m as kick back.

They were not concern when the wife of the dullard raised alarm about 2 useless people holding the country to ransom.

They were not concerned when Boko haram killed over 100 soldiers.

They were not concern when the Vice president was flagged for N5B.

They were not concerned when almost 100 policemen went to lay siege at Dino's house while bandits keep killing people in Zamfara.

Someone needs to give them full back attack.

Useless bunches of element living in UK enjoying basic amenities from British govt while the man they support here budget over 3billion for diesel and petrol.

But the man Atiku who should be more concerned is nowhere to be found.

Leave Atiku alone. He is somewhere preparing for January 19 Debate. There are more than enough statistics to cram.

Pastorlarry:
That mean okorocha will serve as state cordinactor for IMO state

And Amosun for Ogun State! Actually, both of them don't have problem campaigning for the President. Where their problems lie is campaigning for APC Governorship candidates in their States. That one will be hard o!

DMerciful:
The EFCC and other anticorruption agencies are meant to be independent!

But you insinuated the EFCC is not independent under this Administration and that's why they have not been able to record convictions, according to you, and that the only convictions they have recorded were only made possible because the cases were started by PDP! That's why I showed you that, if he truly wants to make them independent in the cases of the two ex-Governors we are talking about, he has the power to interfere because there is Constitutional cover under which he can hide to do so!

So you now agree that the President allowed the independece of EFCC to convict the ex-Governors without interfering?

DMerciful:
Why will the president want to stop a case? Is that his job?

You made a comment that insinuated that Jolly Nyame and Dariye wouldn't have been convicted since they have joined the current ruling party but because their cases had gone too far and there was nothing the ruling party could do. That's why I tell you that, if their intention was never to convict the ex-Governors as a reward for joining the ruling party, that the President has the power to do so.

And yes, the President has the power to stop a criminal case. It is one of the Constitutional duties of the Executive headed by the President to institute cases against the any person that breaks the laws of the country at Federal level. It is one of his jobs to prosecute criminal cases through the Office of the Attorney General. The Attorney General has all the prosecuting institutions, including the EFCC, reporting to him. The Attorney General has the power take over any case being handled by any of those institutions and he can stop the case by withdrawing it from Court. The EFCC also has the power to withdraw a case at any level by itself.

Both the Attorney General and the EFCC Chairman are under the Executive control of the President and he has the power to instruct them to withdraw a criminal case against any person, if he wants to. Do you understand?

Waspy:
The Judiciary utilizes the law while the legislative and executive can make the laws.
Election tribunal cases used to take forever before a time frame was bench-marked for conclusion of all election related cases

Any government serious with fighting corruption will look into how to hasten the court process on corruption charges

Any serious government ( I suppose you mean the Executive in this case) will look into how to hasten the court process, I agree with you. However, hastening the judicial process goes beyond the precinct of the Executive arm of government alone. It's a process involving the contribution and cooperation of the other arms, the Legislature and most especially the Judicial arm concerned. It will even involve the contribution of civil societies and private individuals.

No demoncratically elected President or Governor can take it upon himself to hasten a court process unilaterally or by executive fiat. Even the military in all their might could not do that. It involves a far reaching process, in most cases involving Constitutional amendment which takes a lot of time to do. Judicial reform will definitely involve tinkering with the Constitution.

And I must add that when it comes to making laws and instituting a system reform that will touch on the root of corruption in Nigeria; trust me, you must expect all manners of reactions at the levels of the Legislature, the Judiciary, the Executive. You can as well expect reactions at the level of the citizens, many of whom would be instigated to read political or even ethno-religious meanings into the reform efforts. There will be a stiff reaction that will make it linger long. It's not what will be achieved by an Administration. The Administration of Criminal Justice Act that recently came into being is a product of many years of consideration.

DMerciful:
As at the time their cases were instituted in court they were PDP members and the case was almost concluded. They joined APC to see if they could escape like Akpabio but the case had already gone too far.

No criminal case can go too far as to make it impossible for the State to stop, if they want to stop it, unless judgement has already been given. The Attorney General is empowered by the Constitution to discontinue any criminal case at any stage of its prosecution, if the President wants him to.

A typical criminal case in Nigeria takes between 7 to 10 years on average to fully prosecute. And that is just at the High Court level, not including Court of Appeal and Supreme Court stages. It becomes more difficult if the case is a high profile one involving powerful political elites on corruption charges.

Therefore, when a President complains of a slow Nigerian system which does not entail his Executive arm alone but also the Legislative and Judicial arms over which he has little or no influence, a deeply concerned citizen would reason with him and not just criticize him for the sake of easy criticism alone but think about the way out.

naijapips04:
after all the noise making about fighting corruption the only 3 convictions you recorded were cases started years ago by the PDP.

fighting corruption indeed.

And they tell you that conviction is easy to secure within three years within Nigerian judicial system?

If it's so easy to secure, I think the PDP that started the cases that lasted for ten years could have recorded the convictions in three years before the left, as you want them to.

One of the candidates that will only succeed in dividing the votes of the opposition, especially in the South West, and nothing more. I seriously suspect the reason why the Nation is positively profiling him. So many of the votes that could have gone for Atiku as the main challenger will be shared by this kind of candidates.

Talknochip:
What will be the impact of this debate on the average Nigerian voter?!.. By that 7pm, millions will be without power supply and many more will be in the house of Some party officials collecting 5k, 10k or 50k in exchange for their PVC's... Most would have recieved fone calls during the day that the power company has disconnected their supply due to outstanding debts.. Most will still be trekking home because they want to save that Transport fare to buy their kids breakfast in the morning... Some will be detained by hospitals mgt for not being able to settle their bills... Many will be in betting houses trying to 'cut' a 'living'... Many more will be on transit going to meet that 'man' that promised to change their story after a one night stand... Many will be wrongfully detained by the police..etc.. Many will still be in traffic gridlock.. Many will hear the voices of their loved ones for the first time after days of going missing due to activities of kidnappers as a result of insecurity.. Many will be on the fone with customer Representatives of cable tv for a problem that has linger for days... May God guide us las las to elect the right people after all said and done

There will always be people like you; always negative-minded and pessimistic in outlook toward every bright idea.