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Family › Re: Why Can't Single People 'Just Say No' To Married People? by cococandy(f): 11:07am On Oct 03, 2014
oboman: I absolutely agree with your opinion but what if the single girl knows he is married and continues the relationship with him, who is then to blame? Would you still absolve the single girl of any blame?
Who is to blame for what? The broken marriage vows? The married man/woman is to blame.
Yes.
When someone is married,any affair he/she has that ruins their marriage is solely their fault. As long as he/she wasn't rapeed.

No one is talking about whether the single person sinned or did something bad. Everyone knows sex outside marriage is bad according to some religions. So whether the single person had sex with a married person or another single person he/she commited the sin of fornication. But that's between the single and their God.
The singles sin of fornication is not what broke the marriage but the ADULTERY commited by the married one.

As far as the marriage of the married cheat is concerned,the single shares no blame at all in whatever happens as a result of the affair.
Even the bible says adultery(not fornication) is a good excuse for divorce. Meaning that God holds the married person accountable for the success of their marriage.

He will only judge the single for defiling their bodies but NEVER for ruining the other's marriage.
The marriage is SOLELY the responsibility of the married.
Family › Re: Why Can't Single People 'Just Say No' To Married People? by cococandy(f): 10:39pm On Oct 02, 2014
Then let him stay faithful to the person who made him attractive. Did they point a gun to his head and force him to woo a woman outside?

The sanity of marriage depends on single girls?why don't the man bring all the girls in the world to his wedding so that they'll vow not to open their legs for him so that he'll be faithful to his wife?
Since his faithfulness doesn't depend on him but on the outside girls.



'Ridiculosity'

I gues you just argue for arguments sake
pickabeau1: Believe what u will also

Girls should stop opening their punny to every tom dik harry...maybe there will be sanity

That cleaned up dude I r eyeing..someone made him attractive that u could see.
Family › Re: Ladies! Nt All Men Re Rapist by cococandy(f): 10:34pm On Oct 02, 2014
TV01: Men are characterised as abusers and boys are to blame? Sounds suspiciously like blaming rape on scantily clad dressing by women?

no the parents are to blame.they are the ones raising the generation of men who give everyone the impression that sex is all about what a man is which in turn subconsciously makes people misread any innocent gesture a man makes. Even men stereotype others too. A father will most likely leave his daughter or son in the care of a woman rather than a man.

Even if boys are more aware of sexxual abuse - and to report it - by older females, how will that remove the unfair stereotype that men are the majority abusers?

some people all their lives have not heard of more than 3 cases where a woman abused a boy. But It does happen. If they reported more,no person can claim ignorant of the fact that female abusers exist as much as male abusers too. Tell me how that won't stop focusing the light on men all the time as the only gender that commits sexual offense.

Say, I agree with you - and in part I do - how does parents giving equal emphasis on sex education to both boys and girls change things, except that it may lead to increased reporting of women. Even where women are indicted as molesters, they are rarely characterised or punished in the same way as men.

apart from leading to them reporting abuse more often,it can help growing boys develop sexual consciousness or restraint. Unlike the anything-female-goes attitude some men display. Generally Women are warned severely of sexxual consequences that before we are adults,we have already become sexxually principled.

I know a lot of persons won't agree with this point. They believe in male sexuall freedom. I don't begrudge them their opinions. But I think they don't have a right to complain when after championing such behavior,women become wary around men because of what they have been made to believe about men. They can't eat their cakes and have it.



How does men liking sex lead to the belief that they are sexual abusers of children? Are those that like money implicitly thieves, or lovers of food gluttons? Casanovas? Gigolos, playboys, all yes,but abusers of children?

I didn't see the topic stating categorically that men only sexually molest kids. So that was meant to cover every aspect of sexu'al abuse. That said,do you not see how easy it is for someone who believes men can't do without sex to also believe that a man can do anything even if it's molest a child to get it? So one thing leads to another. When they start believing one,they may involuntarily start believing the other.even when they don't voice it.


Presumably with women, not children?



We should be equally wary about both boys and girls.

agreed. But I can't speak for those who haven't been enlightened about female sex offenders. It's not their fault they only always hear about male offenders

But the truth is the stereotype of men as abusers is not due to the voracious sexual appetite of some men.

I would like to learn your opinion on what you think contributes to it.even if those my two points are correct,there are probably more reasons why the stereotype holds. So your opinion pls.


To say that the stereotype of men as sexual abusers of children is due to the voracious appetites of some, or the failure of boys to report sexual abuse against them is way wide of the mark.

I don't see how it is.


In the West at least, it's a common feminist trope that all men are violent/abusers/rapist etc. It's pushed by the media and even embedded into the socialisation process. And, it's part of that same trope, media and socialisation that downplays female on child abuse, amplifies male on child abuse and generally characterises males as violent.

in the west you say. But in nigeria here what leads to that stereotype?
I can confidently tell you that I've NEVER read news where a Nigerian woman was arrested for sexually molesting a boy. Does it mean it has never happened?
So the impression that males commit the rapee offense more is not fuled by any feminist whatever ish around here.let's try at least call a spade a spade. Feminism didn't accuse any nigerian man of being a rapist. The real life reports do.
It is simply because more cases of men raping women and girls is what we have in the news. Do you still think my opinion of the report cases being a chief contributor to the stereotype is way off the mark?



It's now so bad, that young boys are medicalised for normal boisterous behaviour - or, simply put, because they don't behave like little girls.

hmm. I didn't know that. So what example of these normal boisteruous behaviours have led to little boys being medicalized?

I omit male homosexual abuse for the purpose of this piece, as presumably that's on boys, so although it may well feed the stereotype, should make parents more conscious of the safety of their boys.

I agree

Men &/or boys are niether the root or the solution to this unfair characterisation.


so women are? And if your answer is yes,why?


TV
Family › Re: Why Can't Single People 'Just Say No' To Married People? by cococandy(f): 9:53pm On Oct 02, 2014
Were you typing in greek?
I couldn't make head or tail of it
GoodFaith: what ?
grin grin grin grin
shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked
Family › Re: Why Can't Single People 'Just Say No' To Married People? by cococandy(f): 9:49pm On Oct 02, 2014
huh huh huh
GoodFaith: Ask the lady here that imported Belgium made
Belgium made had two Ladies, Belgium wife and Nigeria baby mama
U including her that make three, I hope she have a baby for him soon
secretive, lying and manipulative bhuh?
Family › Re: Why Can't Single People 'Just Say No' To Married People? by cococandy(f): 9:46pm On Oct 02, 2014
See meat shocked
Who's the designer?
SAMBARRY: ahen use this one and do appetizer so your skin will be more yellow like monalisa chinda
cheesy
Family › Re: Why Would A Lady Remain In An Abusive Relationship? by cococandy(f): 9:39pm On Oct 02, 2014
I just had a mental picture of the violent spirit sitting on top of the person cheesy
exxell: How is it funny grin grin grin
Family › Re: Why Can't Single People 'Just Say No' To Married People? by cococandy(f): 9:30pm On Oct 02, 2014
That the problem with frontpage.
embarassed
armyofone: Accept her account of the story, it is hers...why are you assuming now shocked?
Cococandy, that is where most women fail, to focus and deal with their husbands.
Family › Re: Why Can't Single People 'Just Say No' To Married People? by cococandy(f): 9:28pm On Oct 02, 2014
cheesy
SAMBARRY: grin grin grin grin soyoyo o grin


is it easy to ignore a yellow sisi with figure 8 ?grin
Family › Re: Why Can't Single People 'Just Say No' To Married People? by cococandy(f): 9:25pm On Oct 02, 2014
Who told you he looked middle aged?
Assumptions.
Was I mid twenties when it happened?
More assumptions
How do you know he was in his late 30s early 40s?.

Whether you believe it or not,some people hide their marital status so well when going out to hunt new babes. Some of the girls only find out when the deed is done.

Anyway believe what you will.
Bottom line is whether the outside person knows or doesn't know,the responsibility to protect the marriage belongs to the married person. Not the outsider.
pickabeau1: Story for the Marines

You saw a well dressed man looking responsible middle aged and assumed he was single

Your naïveté is astounding
For you a woman in her mid to late 20s to be believing a man in his late 30s or early 40s not married or at best a divorcee or widower is comical

At best you are an exception ...

Girls know.... Why do girls want some other woman's 'useless' husband

Why coco why?
Family › Re: Why Can't Single People 'Just Say No' To Married People? by cococandy(f): 9:18pm On Oct 02, 2014
Chai the thread don go front page now now. embarassed embarassed
na wa for seun and co..
jaybee3: Abeg Collect Z phone the next he comes knocking grin grin grin
Family › Re: Why Can't Single People 'Just Say No' To Married People? by cococandy(f): 9:15pm On Oct 02, 2014
Me too. I seriously agree that single people should have principles and self respect enough not to be someone elses side kick.

I just didn't want to go down that lane so that I don't give the impression that the girls tempting a man outside or the guys wooing a married a woman with goodies are to blame for the couples' failed marriage.

You know how nairalanders can misunderstand things cheesy
damiso: That 'side chick' 'main chick' rubbish irritated the heck out of me even as a young impressionable teenager.I too don't get why the other woman is the person woman tend to fight and not the man who is their husband i don't get it.I hardly hear men calling the other man to 'warn' or threaten them when their wives cheat. Even if they call him its to tell him you can have her cheesy

That said I also agree that single people could have principles and say i dont date married people.My mum said when she was in university it was a taboo to date married men people that did it were doing it on the down low and could not even tell people they had a sugar daddy. Fast forward to my days it was a thing of pride (to some sha) to date aristos and be seen as a 'big girl'.I even knew someone who used to say 'every girl needs an aristo' cheesy SMH.Funny enough she had a boyfriend who she is now happily married to and based on the fact that the boy is good (proper nerd and still is)I don't think any karma anything has caught up with her.. Life sha.
Family › Re: Why Can't Single People 'Just Say No' To Married People? by cococandy(f):
This stew go sweet well well.

Well I was quite young then. I thought she would understand. I never experience nigerian women in their full glory at that time. I for just ignore the first message sef.

I didn't collect stuff from him because I hadn't even said yes to date him. Collecting would have been agreement na. I just found out I didn't like him enough to date him after the first few meetings.

Who answers Boniface angry angry embarassed in this time and age?the name was a turn off in itself.
SAMBARRY: chaiiii coco this ya tory sweet no be small. I enjoy am grin


but question for you

1.why did you bother explaining or trying to convince her that nothing was going on between you and him

2.throughout the wooing process did you collect money, I phone or clothes from him


don't lie o God is washin you wink





Ahen as for the vegetable you asked for. It's here na cheesy
Family › Re: Ladies! Nt All Men Re Rapist by cococandy(f): 9:06pm On Oct 02, 2014
TV01: Only, it's not the boys that are perpetuating or the cause of the stereotype is it?
TV
They lay the foundation for it.

How many boys report sexxual abuse from older females? That's why the news is everywhere about male molesters but little about female molesters.
Because most parents spend so much energy giving daughters sex education that they don't give sons.
So to the little boys,it's no biggie

Older guys act like sexing a woman is an achievement. Hence they brag about their conquests. Inadvertently making any woman around them to feel that the most important thing in men's life is sex.
Some will go the length of the earth for sex.

Do you then wonder why women are subconsciously careful or wary with their daughters around male folks.even when they have no reason to distrust him.
Family › Re: Why Can't Single People 'Just Say No' To Married People? by cococandy(f): 8:57pm On Oct 02, 2014
I don talk my own.


In summary:

If a man cheats he's looking for something his wife doesn't give him at home.

If the wife cheats. Erm why should she go look for something her husband doesn't give her? Why didn't she just endure it for better for worse.

If the single person is a girl,she's the blame for seducing the man.
If the single person is a man he has no blame. The woman who slept with him is to blame.

Your opinion is duly noted cheesy.
coogar: nah.....
you are getting the dynamics wrong. a woman should share the blame if her hubby cheats on her.



i don't disagree with the above if the wife at home is doing her duties. it is human nature to seek out comfort when they are not receiving what they need at home.



virgins got cheated on by her husband? she deserves it - she has been starving her hubby.

see....when the wife does not focus in on the needs and the feelings, sexually, personally, to make him feel like a man, to make him feel like a success, to make him feel like her hero, he’s very susceptible to the charm of some other woman making him feel what he needs.



that's a different thing altogether - you are a woman. the decision to sleep around ultimately lies with you & you only. even if a man wants to cheat, there's no guarantee he would succeed cos he still needs the approval of the woman he wants to cheat with.

you said so yourself here.....


there's a reason both genders feel the woman is the key to any marital infidelity. she's the one that holds the key whether sėx would happen or not. a man has no such powers unless in the case of räpe - which is a criminal offence.



if the single person here is a woman, she carries the blame 100%.
Family › Re: Ladies! Nt All Men Re Rapist by cococandy(f): 8:53pm On Oct 02, 2014
When guys are busy bragging about sexxual prowess. Why cry when ladies become cautious with their daughters around you?

Not all men are molesters. I'm very sure of that. It's possible in the whole population of males the molesters may not be up to 10percent.

Who wants to experiment with their daughters and find out?

We can change this stereotype by teaching our boys right.
Family › Re: Why Can't Single People 'Just Say No' To Married People? by cococandy(f): 8:42pm On Oct 02, 2014
I'm watching my weight angry
Give me vegetable salad
SAMBARRY: Gbam. You have nailed it. Better girl.oya take am
Family › Re: Why Can't Single People 'Just Say No' To Married People? by cococandy(f): 8:41pm On Oct 02, 2014
coogar: so a single person has no common sense to resist such offers? a single person has no common sense that one day she would be married & she wouldn't want to experience such agony?
I am mr obi. I want to cheat on my wife.
Single girl nkechi refuses my advance
I go to single girls ada,lori,nikky etc etc and all refuse.
I find refuge in mrs solomon.
Bottom line is I am the married person here.
So if I want my marriage to be protected,I'm the one responsible for that.

The world doesn't owe me the duty to protect my marriage. I owe my partner that duty. So thinking my marriage failed because single girls didn't say no to me would be very sstupid of me.

What about the virgins who get cheated on by their husbands? Who did they offend and who's karma is haunting them?

Even as I'm married I get offers from men outside. Do you think if I cheat I'll be foolish enough to try say I cheated because the guy kept on wooing me or didn't say no to my advance?

Really it's funny for anyone to try blame single people for married ones who won't remember their vows when they want to cheat.
Family › Re: Why Can't Single People 'Just Say No' To Married People? by cococandy(f): 8:34pm On Oct 02, 2014
pickabeau1: Most times d girls don't know what?
Story for d gods....


Believe that and believe anything
Story time...

When I was in school there was this man I met at friend's wedding. Mr B.
He started asking me out seriously and trying his best to drive down from ph to owerri to come and pay me surprise visits at school.

Many of my hostel mates then knew him because he would come without informing me and if I wasn't around,he would wait outside the gate until I come back. Sometimes he would go if I came back late and then my friends would tell me ''that man been come again o. Ha''

One day he opened up and told me his pastor saw my picture on his phone and told him I was the one God revealed to him as his (Mr B's) wife. grin
Kept putting pressure on me to give him my parents' contact so that he'll make his 'noble' intentions known to them.
All that 'apparent' seriousness was to make me feel his a good guy with good intentions and make relax around him enough to open my legs.

As an asidesadI've even heard of guys going as far as introductory marriage rights to get into the pants of a very strict principled lady and disappear once their mission is accomplished. So don't think every single girl dating a married man knows he's married)

Continues..

Until one evening I received a message 'leave my husband alone. Go and find your own. Husband snatcher # **unprintable names**'

I was surprised no be small. So I called the number and confirmed truly that that was his wife. Mr B would travel all the way from ph to owerri to woo me and form Mr romantic while denying his wife at home.

The sad thing was that after trying to convince madam B that I didn't have anything to do with her husband like she thought and didn't even know he was married,she still saw me as the enemy while ignoring the fact that the onus of protecting their marriage rested on both of them and not me the single girl outside.

Well I tried to make her see that I was on her side but she was blinded by stupidity.

Kept saying she knew how her husband uses ladies and dumps them that it would soon be by turn to be dumped and her loving husband would soon go back to her.
That I should not think I've won as I'll be dumped like a piece of rag and he'll be with her the madam(main chick grin)
................................................................

That's the mindset some women have when their husbands cheat on them. It's always the fault of the girl outside. She seduced him. She charmed him. She did this or did that. Forgetting that the man made the first move of betraying his marriage by looking outside to start with. A man who's determined to cheat will cheat. Even if all the single girls outide reject his advances he'll do it with a married woman. The cheater is the only constant in that equation. He's the one that needs to be changed if a different result is desired.

I'm not saying this because I think women don't cheat. I'm saying it because it is women who are more unrealistic when cheated on.
That's what I like about men sha. Cheat on him and he sees the problem which is you.
But cheat on some women and they'll leave their problem(the man) and face the girl outside.
Family › Re: Why Can't Single People 'Just Say No' To Married People? by cococandy(f): 8:01pm On Oct 02, 2014
The problem is not with the single people but the married ones. A married person going after a single person knowing very well he/she has a spouse is to blame here.
The single person has no responsibility to protect your home or marriage for you.
So marriages are not breaking up because single people are going out with married ones.
They are breaking up because married ones aren't rspecting their marriages.
Celebrities › Re: Dear Tiwa Savage, You Are NOT Beyonce" - Onyeka Nwelue by cococandy(f): 5:40pm On Oct 02, 2014
Celebrities › Re: Dear Tiwa Savage, You Are NOT Beyonce" - Onyeka Nwelue by cococandy(f): 5:28pm On Oct 02, 2014
Hateful Nigerians and nairalanders angry
If she's beyonce or not nko?
At least she's better than most of y'all
And who has proof she's fueling the divorce rumours?


As for nwelue

I used to have respect for nwelue..
But he's beginning to talk too much and produce too little.
Time to delete him from my facebook list.
Full of irrelevant updates and giving stories of the private things that happen in his friends' lives.

Ifeanyi okeke if you're reading this be careful with nwelue. The dude has developed running mouth syndrome.
And he's not a real celebrity yet. One wonders what will happen when he's becomes successful.
Family › Re: "Why I Stayed In An Abusive Marriage" by cococandy(f): 4:44pm On Oct 02, 2014
IMO I think that's a law that can't be totally adherred to. I find it hard to believe anyone will turn their back on their own family when he/she is in such need because their church says so .
carefreewannabe: It doesn't matter, the institution is more important than human life.
Family › Re: "Why I Stayed In An Abusive Marriage" by cococandy(f): 4:32pm On Oct 02, 2014
Ok let's leave the church service and programmes aside.

Why does excommunication have to include family and friends who go to that same church with you turning their backs on you?

Understood that the laws are there for the excesses,how does it help the case of someone who was leaving for their own safety?
Especially when they need a network of support from family and friends at those trying times.
TV01: Harsh huh? But there is reasoning behind it;

1. It focuses one to not just enter marriage anyhow - understand and commit to it with the right person
2. It puts a lid on frivolous divorce - which is becoming more common and hence normal, and aided by lopsided divorce laws
3. If you knew you couldn't simply remarry, you make every effort to get it right and keep it working. Celibacy is a motivator grin!
4. At a stroke it also reduces a number of societal ills
5. It's close to the bible reading - divorce does not pre-suppose remarriage

Harsh but purposefully so.


TV
Family › Re: The Family Section Fun Room!! by cococandy(f): 4:25pm On Oct 02, 2014
smiley
Chillisauce: you are missing my dear

***singing, l'escargot...l'escargot....mon cher l'escargot***

i love it well garnished. See food is the bomb.
Family › Re: Quotes By Famous Feminist Speakers by cococandy(f): 4:20pm On Oct 02, 2014
You won't understand.
Wetin dey do me pass nairaland.
Story for another day
crackhaus: When you quit getting upset over my antics of yesterday and today 'apparently', you'll begin to feel it.
Family › Re: "Why I Stayed In An Abusive Marriage" by cococandy(f): 4:18pm On Oct 02, 2014
Sickening I must say.

The guy in your second story may face that in future if he stays married to that his lunatic wife who tried to run him over.
How do you give someone who tried to run you over with a car another chance.
Another chance to do what? To carry out the murder successfully?
Smh
zboyd: You're very right! This is serious business!

Example:

Andrea Yates: Ill or Evil?

http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/women/andrea_yates/index.html
Family › Re: "Why I Stayed In An Abusive Marriage" by cococandy(f): 4:10pm On Oct 02, 2014
Well I guess. How else can they prove it.

What surprises me is the church harshness.
And that part of family and friends turning their backs on one.
What kind of love are they preaching then?
zboyd: So...must the cheated on party hire a private detective to follow the cheating spouse around, take pictures, record a video, provide proof of having contracted an STD, etc.?

Nonsense!
Family › Re: Quotes By Famous Feminist Speakers by cococandy(f): 4:07pm On Oct 02, 2014
I can't feel it here angry angry
crackhaus: Hmmm

kisskiss
Family › Re: "Why I Stayed In An Abusive Marriage" by cococandy(f): 4:04pm On Oct 02, 2014
Since my divorce in 1993, I no longer could accept the religion I was brought up in, for many reasons. Although leaving the religion on my own accord lead to the church decision to excommunicate me, therefore losing contact with my family and then-close friends
So ppl stop talking to their family and friends because they changed religion?
They become sort of outcast?
Hmm.

We must be taking this religion thing more seriously than God himself
Family › Re: "Why I Stayed In An Abusive Marriage" by cococandy(f): 4:01pm On Oct 02, 2014
This maga better divorce that crazy woman.does his house look like an asylum where the mentally ill get cured?
One day she'll flip out in future and kill one of their kids then he'll be too heartborken to know where to pick his life up from.

zboyd: .
Family › Re: "Why I Stayed In An Abusive Marriage" by cococandy(f): 3:55pm On Oct 02, 2014
To get a divorce without clear proof of adultery, according to church teachings, required complete and total celibacy and no hope of ever remarrying. To remarry after a divorce with no clear proof of adultery, invariably and abruptly lead you to being excommunicated from the church entirely, wherein even your own family and close friends would have nothing to do with you.
shocked shocked shocked

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