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[quote author= post=81201145]JESUS CHRIST IS THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY AND FOREVER.[/quote]Lol...I thought muslims say Jesus never come?

jesusjnr:
Mammon worshipper, as usual defending his god passionately.

Which of the two have i corrected, the Holy Spirit or Paul, or are both the same to you lying hypocrite?

Who was being corrected in the following instance by Jesus? The Holy Spirit or Paul?

2 Corinthians 12:7-9 (KJV)

And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.
And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

So as you can clearly see I am not the only one that has corrected your own holy spirit, for he was being given a thorn in his holy "flesh" by the Lord to humble and correct him. So perhaps i'm not only one that you should be offended with for correcting your holy spirit in the flesh that died a long time ago.

My own Holy Spirit is still here on Earth, and has not left since He came after the departure of Jesus the Word of God from the Earth.

OP I implore you to go through his thread history and see for yourself.

https://www.nairaland.com/4808209/many-mistakes-apostle-pauls-teachings#72390772

CC: HoluwaLoniGlory

eleko1:
.Why canceled his post?Be MATURE pls

Hmmm.... his post? or our post?

[quote author= post=81210347]Happy reading guys.
Hoping someone learn something from this.....[/quote]After your oga, Buhari has traded our good oil jobs for quick oil cash by exporting raw crude you suddenly expect us to accept Ajékù that's N-Power from Buhari abi?

Rubbish fictional story.

You should have used Chinedu in that part of Ikpomwonsa to carry along the swine's in your signature.

Is like Buhari has asked you to replicate BBNAIJA in politics section abi?

Why not check the health status of prospective pilgrims instead of waiting for the disaster to happen then giving condolences and reactions?

really?
A thumb up here and another one there then after 8 years the governors are madly made billionaires.

I Laugh.

When Kemi Adeosun first resumed as finance minister, one of her first initiative if not the first, was the idea of an efficiency unit. The unit was targeted at eliminating practices like these from our system at many levels.
It was suppose to a unit that buys in bulk and of quality, recurring items in the MDAs and other government institutions centrally to help eliminate wastages. I can imagine those N2m TV being bought for 80k if the efficient unit idea was well followed.

paxonel:
because all parts of the bible is for tithing or what?
Please don't bring bible into it we were talking about tithing.

factual truth
Have you ever heard of the law of excluded middle?
Google it and see how it applies here.

Tithing has it own identity
The bible has it own identity totally excluded and different from the tithing.

Don't make that mistake to assume that tithing is the whole bible itself, it does not follow.

You inserted what I haven't said into my comment and still further changed its interpretation from its simple meaning before going on to reply to it. If you are serious, back up your own arguments with relevant scriptures and stop replying to figments of your own imagination.

NB: If you want to debate about the identity of the bible itself you can open another thread for it.

OP has spoken well, but as we can see the devil's agent are already rubbishing it.
Zachariah 1:17 clearly back up what OP just said.

To tell you who the second replier(jesúsjñr) works for between God and Satan, he corrects the Holy Spirit and Apostle Paul teachings and even has threads for it. check if you think I am lying.

paxonel:
Tithing was for the Jews to pay, not Christians.
And Christ never discouraged them, infact he encouraged them to pay because it was already their tradition.

But that encouragement should not be mistaken that tithing is also for Christians

If I follow that ur interpretation then no part of the bible is for non-Jews.

obailala:
There's been several stories like this of Nigerians jumping off high rise buildings in Malysia, Indonesia and some other suspicious countries but this makes absolutely no sense and I wonder why no one else smells a rat in all these bizarre stories.

Even illegal Nigerian migrants in decent places like the UK, US etc are never this desperate to evade immigration police. How can a sane human jump off a 30 storey building all because he wants to remain in a shithole country like Indonesia or Malaysia? Even if he were with drugs and was running away from drug enforcement, not even the fear of a death sentence would make any sane human to willingly jump 30 storeys.

My theory is simple, all these guys are kicked off those buildings by murderous xenophobic policemen. Thank God this one survived, maybe he will be able to tell us the story of what truly happened; but that's if the police dont come around to finish him off.

Drug dealing attracts death sentence there so no need for all those theories.

jesusjnr:
Improve my life?

Your life is improved and yet God has used me to improve people's life here in the short while I've been here more than you have despite being here for a long while?

Of course what do you know about helping people but yourself as your menthor has taught you?

People are my bank because I'm not here for myself but to help others.

BTW frankly you're one of the most spiritually shallow persons I have ever encountered here in Nairaland, for I have seen some of your threads and wondered how spiritually shallow can one get in this respect? But it's not surprising knowing who your menthor is speaking of being spiritually bankrupt.

I know that that when you start responding with "thrash" to someone's comments, you have been dumbfounded by the truth.

So I wish you the same mammon worshipper.

You cant stop replying to your own imagination.

jesusjnr:
I was speaking to you mammon worshipper for blowing the trumpet of the peanuts that Oyedepo is giving out of the abundance of his riches.

For in spite of those hand-outs, people are obviously not Oyedepo's bank because he's "dangerously" accumulating riches unto himself(buying private Jets) as the mammon-worshipping Pharisees, instead of distributing it unto the poor as the apostles, the leaders of the church had done at the time in accordance with Jesus sayings.

But the people are truly the bank of few church leaders as T.B Joshua and Chibuzor Chinyere etc., even as they were of Jesus and His disciples, for that's why they don't have private jets, for the money to buy such has been channeled into people's lives.

I gave you that link of davidoyedepofoundation to help you avoid talking trash like the bold.
There is a big difference between wealth and riches. Health is wealth. but health isn't riches. Oyedepo's statement about being dangerously wealthy clearly is too complex for petty minded folks like yourself.

jesusjnr:
I was speaking to you mammon worshipper for blowing the trumpet of the peanuts that Oyedepo is giving out of the abundance of his riches.

For in spite of those hand-outs, people are obviously not Oyedepo's bank because he's "dangerously" accumulating riches unto himself(buying private Jets) as the mammon-worshipping Pharisees, instead of distributing it unto the poor as the apostles, the leaders of the church had done at the time in accordance with Jesus sayings.

But the people are truly the bank of few church leaders as T.B Joshua and Chibuzor Chinyere etc., even as they were of Jesus and His disciples, for that's why they don't have private jets, for the money to buy such has been channeled into people's lives.

moronic post.
Oyedepo buying jets..
Oyedepo that...

I gave you that link to go apply and improve your life.
I am not a trumpeter like you. If i want to be one, I can open a whole blog for it and won't run out of content. I just gave u that link to go improve your life and stop reading the bible upside down or like Arabic.

jesusjnr:
Lol!

[s]
TB Joshua is now my menthor, because I appreciate it whenever a church leader heeds the commandment of Jesus and helps the poor and distribute wealth unto them, instead of accumulating it as the Mammon-worshipping modern-day Pharisees who have turned the house of God into a den of thieves,
who instead of helping the poor as Jesus had commanded would be mocking them and boasting that they are dangerously rich.

Maybe Chibuzor Chinyere of OPM is also my menthor even though that's just about the only thing I love about him, as I did the same because of what he was doing.

https://www.nairaland.com/5142434/opm-opens-free-specialist-hospital

What TB Joshua did as Chibuzor Chinyere of OPM despite having to speak about such, is not sounding a trumpet while giving peanuts to the poor in comparison to the riches one has, just as the Pharisees used to and you are doing concerning Oyedepo's riches, but it is sacrificial giving just as the instance of Zachaeus who declared his giving of half of his possessions to the poor. For despite that he had said it in public Jesus approved of it because it was sacrificial and well intended, and also necessary for others to do likewise.

Not your fellow mammon worshipper that would be saying I'm dangerously rich with the riches that he is supposed to help the poor with.

That's characteristic of the mammon worshipping Pharisees unto whom Jesus said "woe unto you" because they devoured widows houses, but emphasized payment of tithes.

Matthew 23:14 (KJV)

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

Matthew 23:23 (KJV)

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Go and worship mammon no more![/s]

Trash!

jesusjnr:
Lol!

TB Joshua is now my menthor, because I appreciate it whenever a church leader heeds the commandment of Jesus and helps the poor and distribute wealth unto them, instead of accumulating it as the Mammon-worshipping modern-day Pharisees who have turned the house of God into a den of thieves,
who instead of helping the poor as Jesus had commanded would be mocking them and boasting that they are dangerously rich.

Maybe Chibuzor Chinyere of OPM is also my menthor even though that's just about the only thing I love about him, as I did the same because of what he was doing.

https://www.nairaland.com/5142434/opm-opens-free-specialist-hospital

What TB Joshua did as Chibuzor Chinyere of OPM despite having to speak about such, is not sounding a trumpet while giving peanuts to the poor in comparison to the riches one has, just as the Pharisees used to and you are doing concerning Oyedepo's riches, but it is sacrificial giving just as the instance of Zachaeus who declared his giving of half of his possessions to the poor. For despite that he had said it in public Jesus approved of it because it was sacrificial and well intended, and also necessary for others to do likewise.

Not your fellow mammon worshipper that would be saying I'm dangerously rich with the riches that he is supposed to help the poor with.

That's characteristic of the mammon worshipping Pharisees unto whom Jesus said "woe unto you" because they devoured widows houses, but emphasized payment of tithes.

Matthew 23:14 (KJV)

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

Matthew 23:23 (KJV)

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Go and worship mammon no more!

Trash!

UceeGod:
Matthew 23:23 statement was made under the Old Covenant. Tithing was of course mandatory then; but in the New Testament, the Principle at the root of tithing is what we follow through the leading of the Holy Spirit - the principle of supporting God’s purpose with our financial resources which must be proportional, cheerfully made and planned as the Spirit leads you.
You quoted Zechariah 1:17 out of context. The Lord was talking about Old Testament Jerusalem which was in ruins NOT about His New Testament church spreading through prosperity. The true Church of Christ comprising His genuine followers often spreads through persecutions and righteousness NOT material prosperity.
Moreover, God is not against His people being prosperous as long as prosperity agenda and gospel doesn't take the place of His Kingdom agenda - freedom from Sin and satanic dominion + eternal life.

According to your first paragraph, maybe the whole of Jesus teachings was under old covenant also and therefore null.

In Acts the church spread through both persecution and prosperity. As many that had landed properties sold them for the sake of the gospel. Stop the lies.

Even Jesus said He came to fulfil the laws and not abolish them.

[quote author= post=81187144]This is not the way Jesus Christ taught us to live in peace with one another.

This joggle our memory to what the Great, Good man,
Mahatma Ghandi, the Indian Hinduist says concerning Christianity.

He said and we quote " I love their CHRIST, but hate their Christians,
BECAUSE their Christians do not behave like their CHRIST!

Food for thought to all Christians worldwide!

Again, Happy Sallah to all our Muslim friends, neighbours, colleagues and most especially our wonderful barbecue clients!

Let us live in peace, love and harmony with one another, that is the way Our Darling Personal Lord and Saviour, JESUS CHRIST taught us!


Let us all make love and not war!
Peace Out!![/quote]Mumu. Simple message na I'm dey skata ur brain on top say y be coded Muslim.

jesusjnr:
You get a free tutorial on how to be rich in the sight of God and how to lay up treasures in heaven and all you can say is hmmm?

You are for sure deeply rooted in mammon worship.

Only God can help you, for your case don pass man power.

i said "hmmm" because I already preached these 2-3 years back here on Nairaland and any attempt at using recycled sermons or doctrine to shine is DOA.

jesusjnr:
“These people are my bank account. I believe so much in this so that in the nearest future, people can stand and say, ‘I am now this through the grace of God in the life of TB Joshua’” - TB Joshua

https://www.nairaland.com/5351583/dont-operate-bank-account-tb

This is what Mathew 6:2 was talking about. Has oyedepo come out to shout about his? Never. if he has, prove it.

jesusjnr:
Lol!

I'm sure the mammon worshippers even the Pharisees who derided Jesus for speaking against their covetous ways, would have had much more than such a foundation to deceive the gullible that they were not worshippers of mammon.

Woe unto the blind guides hypocrites (mammon worshippers) - Jesus

Matthew 6:2 (KJV)

Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

You just proved you are an hypocrite of highest order. why didn't you talk about not sounding a trumpet when TB Joshua was broadcasting and announcing his? You even sample his quote here.
But for Oyedepo own that's a foundation and must have a public portal to reach its targeted audience of Africans you are here quoting the words of Jesus. That scripture is apt for your mentor and not Oyedepo who has never mentioned his. it is your TB Joshua that sounds a trumpet as the hypocrite do in the synagogue(Synagogue Church of all Nations) and in the street.


Go and apply.

jesusjnr:
Lol!

I'm sure the mammon worshippers even the Pharisees who derided Jesus for speaking against their covetous ways, would have had much more than such a foundation to deceive the gullible that they were not worshippers of mammon.

Woe unto the blind guides hypocrites (mammon worshippers) - Jesus

Matthew 6:2 (KJV)

Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

Go and apply.

strange

UceeGod:
No where in the Bible did Christ ask His desciples to preach about material prosperity. No where did Christ tell His desciples to organise church and mandate people to pay tithes.
The only gospel Christ commisioned His desciples to preach is about His Kingdom - Matthew 4:23, 9:35, Mark 16:15, Luke 9:6
The gospel of the Kingdom of God is about freedom from the dominion of Sin, peace in this troublesome world and Life in eternity. The gospel is often accompanied by signs of healing anf deliverance from demonic possession. The gospel of Christ's Kingdom never promises material wealth but God blesses anyone He deems fit according to His purpose, even unbelievers.
Success and prosperity in God's Kingdom is not ideally the same with that of the world. Unfortunately, prosperity and success is now seen in "churches" today just the way the world sees them. Prosperity in Christ's descipleship are the spiritual blessings that come with a heart and soul devoted entirely to Christ - giving the best of what you are and what you have to God's purpose regardless of the obstacles, which also includes your money (not necessarily 10%).

Stop replying to delusions man.

Jesus endorsed tithe in that Mathew 23:23
Zach 1:17 is from the LORD also. and It talks about the church being prosperous. Challenge the point with fact and not ignorance. Plus I never claimed Jesus asked his disciples to preach tithes or prosperity.

davidoyedepofoundation.org
go and apply for scholarship OP. stop being delusional.

davidoyedepofoundation.org
go and apply for scholarship OP. stop being delusional.

that's stupidity. Both of them lost at least a hand each plus I can see the intestine of one outside.
God. Why not come and hustle legit in Naija?

trash

BUTTERMILKSUGAR:
I have been seeing a particular figure one too many times. What could it possibly mean.
I might be very busy or just waking up from sleep and when I check the time or anything that reflects figures, I will just see 11 or 7:11 or 11:7

I find it strange and I seek answers

You arent alone. used to experience such too.

lomprico:
pls what is the topic of this thread again?

Put on ur glasses and read.

EnthronedbyGod:
There were 2 types of wine in the Bible days, fresh wine and fermented wine.

Fresh wine wasn't alcoholic, but fermented wine was.

The water that Jesus turned to wine, was fresh wine and not fermented wine.

The wine that Paul told Timothy to drink was fresh wine and not fermented wine.

Its wrong for Christians to take alcoholic beverages.

I missed this post for long. Some "Christians" are quick to give carnal interpretation for self justification but same folks will never allow the dead bury their dead literally or cast their bread upon the water in a bid to find it after many days as literally commanded by bible.