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tpia1: common among the yoruba, i should think.

kind of routine, not unusual.

not sure what the actual underlying reason is though.

so will you be attaching one to your cloth when you get preggers? if a woman travels abroad while pregnant, can she also ward off the evil spirit or are these foul spirits only present in nigeria?

R2bees: stup.id man, did i say arsenal signed nani, i just shared rumour i copied from net...u dnt even know anything when it comes 2 arsenalnews and rumour

4llerbuntu is a simpleton - any man who feels nani is not better than walcott is a troglodyte - if nani moves to arsenal, he would be their best forward since thierry henry! i doubt the story though - fergie won't sell his most potent winger to his rival.....fergie ain't wenger!

Idowuogbo: feck u!!!

idowu put yourself in the contest - i will campaign for you! lest i forget, fück you too!!!

Idowuogbo: wagbayi!!!

lets go dia....

team osky y'all

idowu, how come you ain't contesting?

greall1: Photostore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufbtjAM4P6M

Goldieluks: You took the words from my mouth. The earlier one teaches a baby to swim, the more efficient the baby becomes.

i have seen babies of 4 months in the pool taking swimming lessons from their mums. it's a natural instinct - it's fear that prevents people from swimming!

most babies can swim at 9 months - were they not swimming in their mother's belly before birth?

[quote author=~Royal~]Everybody from group 3 need their Nairaland accounts Terminated!

I ain't got time for this Bullshit[/quote]shut up n post your picture....

ogugua88: I wonder what is so hard in simply voting for contestants. Who asked for the insults and humiliation? If someone is comfortable with their picture being displayed, then what is it to you? Or maybe it's only the picture you see, and you forget that they have feelings and their own tolerance levels too. Many of you hurling insults can't even put up your own pictures.

The day insulting is an Olympic sport is the day Nigerians will come home with a plane full of gold medals.

sexkillz allowed it - every condescending comment should be hidden....it defeats the purpose of organising something like this if the loud mouths keep criticising the pictures of the participants!

dayokanu: Valencia has a net spend way inferior to other top teams in Spain Yet they havent gone 7yrs trophyless and they still sacked their coach for under performance

simple question - when was the last time valencia won anything of note and what was their net spend that year? failure to answer then you are an obdurate wankër!

Ibime: Yes of course, they would be waiting for only vertical ball innit?

Sturridge has already disgraced Torres severally talkless of dem guys.

I'm not sure whether Patrick Bamford would not do better sef.

sturridge na striker? lolololol

Ibime: Make una leave these emotional guys to dey yarn abeg.

These ninjas love making excuses for Torres to stay on pitch by dismissing Studge and Lukaku cos they are young and reh reh reh.

Fact is if real ninja like Demba Ba or Wily Bony is the one competing with Torres, none of these emotional niggas could make excuse for Torres @zz not to be araldited permanently to the bench.

That's the level of striker Torres is. He's not even an also ran much less a Chelsea calibre striker.

if demba ba/falcao move to chelsea, they won't do better than torres!

spikes C: [size=18pt]Oya, check ma new pishure....i don over qualify baaa[/size]

no controversy - you are the most handsome man from the african continent!
denzel washington has nothing on you - where exactly do you stay? i can get you hollywood movie roles straight from california as early as next year.

spikes c - you should change it to spikes cute!

k2039: If you have never dated or asked out by a guy, you certainly need a deliverance.

Though I doubt the authencity of your post.

why does she need deliverance? some women take their career seriously than to worry about men that would derail them. she's used her time judiciously to reach the zenith of her career and she's now ready for men - nothing wrong with that!

[quote author=baby_123]Its all a thing of the mind. I seen on TV 80 something yr olds having 90 something yr old girlfriends. [/quote]hahahahaha....i will have to pass!

[quote author=baby_123]Anything wrong with that? Shes young, yes. Most people live past 80 these days. . She came for help, dont scare her away/[/quote]ok....i am also a young man @ 85 yrs

successbuilder: I am a young lady of 37,and not yet married.Pls I want you to advice me on how to get a good man as a husband.

young lady at 37?

tpia1: Its a yoruba superstition.

huh?
never heard of it.....

Tiana155: Hello there, my mother-lnlaw came to our house three months ago, the initial plan was for her to stay some few weeks and return back, but she refused to go back saying they want to kill her in d village among other stories, my hubby said she should stay for awhile. Her son(my hubby) seems to be very important to her than our child, she always talks about how i dont feed him well, i dont cook well, how i dont manage money, etc. Just this evening i got back from work to find out that she washed his cloths, prepared his meal, my hubby sat down enjoying the meal and they were talking, i greeted my hubby and then my mil she gave me a look that made me explode, i threw the food my hubby was eating and shouted at her and told her she would leave my house, but my hubby said she would not leave. He obviously enjoyed all the care from his mama. Right now i am very angry i dont know what to do. Please advice me on what to do. I know i made a mistake throwing the food away and shouting at her. I am not a bad wife i try to take care of my family and i also have a stressful job. Thank u.

what made you angry?
the fact that your mother in-law has overstayed her welcome or because another woman cooked for your hubby? women and their wahala. would your husband lash out if your mum cooks for you? what's the big deal in your mother in law cooking for your husband - if she didn't raise him, would you have found him to marry?

you ought to be taken to the market square and flogged repeatedly.....

dayokanu: Give us the net spend of Valencia compared to their rivals yet they havent gone 7yrs trophyles and they just sacked their coach for underperformance

you mean valencia are the second to the last team in spain in the last 7 yrs in net spend? you must be a fool! when was the last time valencia won a trophy and how much did they spend that season? since they stopped spending because of the huge debt - how many titles have they won?

Sagamite: Unfortunately, Messi has not and will never play for a small team as the big clubs know his value. That does not mean he can't.
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

let's leave club affiliations out of it and concentrate on the national team. we would never know the difference in quality between barcelona and napoli - we can only speculate.

Lets even remove 1/3 of Messi's goals at Barcelona because we attribute it to the Barcelona/Iniesta/Xavi effect. If Messi was scoring at 2/3 the rate he is at Barcelona while playing for Real Zaragoza/Napoli, he would still have a better scoring rate than Maradona.
At the national team level, he has a better scoring rate than Maradona.

yet again, you focus on goals instead of the influence they both bring to the team. maradona did not become great because he could score 1000 goals in 20 games - this is why i said we are stat machines in the modern era. if we applied this same yardstick back in the days then platini, maradona, nedved, zidane, kaka, ronaldinho would never smell any award. in those days, influence to the team was more regarded than the sheer number of goals!

Unfortunately, Messi played in an era when football is big and many quality players. So it is not as easy to get into one of the biggest teams and get a starting place.
1958 is a different era with many players at the level of Cyprus!

how many participating countries in 58 had a 17 yr old striker leading them out? lets be honest, pele's achievements in 58 was peerless although he had a super creative force behind him to score those goals!

I partially agree but I think it has always been like that: focus on goals.

kaka, nedved, zidane, platini, rivaldo, shevchenko - none of these players is a goal machine!

Even maybe more so in the past when we they did not have analyst telling people what players not scoring were doing that was spectacular on the pitch and where the only news report that circulated was the scores and who scored.

they told us about the moments of brilliance.
it was about the moments the goals were scored - a player could score 20 goals against zaragoza and it won't mean shyte but another striker chooses his moments. a match destined for draw and then in the 90th minute, cometh the hour - cometh the man! that was what made kanu an african legend in 96.

Many know Pele's name, but I doubt many non-Brazilians know the name any of his team-mates.

they were a quartet then according to radio commentary...
whenever you hear didi-vava-garrincha-pele, the next word is goalllllllllll!

Definitely not the influence. He just does not have that inspirational character. He has the ability and skills.

exactly - but argentines would sacrifice all the goals messi has scored for barca to win a world cup!

Good point but they also had no offside.
They surely were men but I don't think that made them better with the football brain.
Pele for example does not need to work as hard with defenders since he could not be offside. He just needs to sit upfront with the keeper.

but that was the era of 5 defenders - they had what they called "the last man" then or a number 5 whose mission is to break as many legs as possible. i actually think there were many quality players back then. you need to watch the 1970 world cup clips and see the quality of the goals scored - they are far better than the goal mouth scramble these days.

I agree with you that awards don't necessarily describe which player is better even though it helps. But I disagree that Sneijder eliminated Barcelona or took Holland to the WC final. He was just a vital player in the team that did, not the soul. I can't even remember him like we remember Pirlo for Italy in the last Euros.

how many goals did sneijder score against barcelona in the semis? how many did messi score? how many goals did sneijder score @ the world cup as a support striker, how many did messi? sneijder was the heart and soul of the 2 teams he played for that year. he won the treble for inter milan and had robben not brainfarted - holland would have won the world cup!

If he was that good and critical, he would at least be in the top 10 for FIFA and EU awards.

politics!

Debatable on the time and space. I think Messi is on par with that, at best Iniesta might edge just slightly. Iniesta wins in mobility and close circulation. Xavi wins in game control and vision. Messi wins in scoring, pace and dribbling but also scores highly in mobility.

we would have to agree to disagree on this one......

Also Fabregas, Pedro, Alba. And David Villa has played with this guys long enough to understand them Xaviesta are surely the best but like Messi I doubt they can do it on their own without a La Masia mentality team with them.

xaviesta had won the champions league in 06 and 09 before these names joined barcelona.

As I said put one of Xaviesta in Argentina and I don't think it will come to anything.
They were the creative force but it was the style and the understanding of the style by most Spanish players that won something for them.

maybe maybe not - we would never know....
the only thing we know is maradona's team mates in 86 are not as good as what messi has had at his disposal. if maradona could drag argentina to 2 world cup finals back to back, why can't messi?

I never said he had crap teammates.
I said he has teammates that don't play yo his style as Xaviesta have with Spain.

but maradona never used this excuse - Italian style at napoli was different to the style argentina played between 1985 and 1990.

You can never describe Messi as an out-and-out striker. He is like Baggio.

he is a false 9 or 9 and a half. baggio is a 10!
messi played closer to the opponents goal than baggio. baggio had schillaci ahead of him to do the scoring. messi has no one @ barcelona ahead of him!

Even look at the computer games. The default setting for the 3 Barca front are SS.
I don't care if anyone scores more "tournament" goals, I care about over-all.

goals win matches - if messi was scoring at the vital moments, argentina would have won more. it's increasingly becoming evident that messi is crap for his country. look at fat ronaldo - he bossed everywhere he played(brazil, inter, madrid, psv). zidane, ronaldinho, xavi and iniesta too. why can't messi?

in the last copa in his home soil, argentina played against a 10-man uruguayan team for almost 80 mins(including extra time) and yet messi's team lost on their home soil!

You may have a point there but before they retired their style never included working as hard as Messi on the pitch.
Many guys did the dribbling in the midfield and passed to Pele to finish. Messi is like Iniesta's finest girlfriend.

messi has aguero and tevez to pass to him too - what has he done with the passes?

But the players you named (Ronaldo, Forlan, Villa) are strikers, and he outscored them when he became a support striker.

messi has not outscored ronaldo if you take the goals in spain into consideration.

Even if we agreed it is easier to score in Spain, Messi still has a better score rate at national level and the virtually same at club level (1 every .94 games) during the period of CR (1 every .92 games). That is basically the same.

we are splitting hair here - that's not the same thing!

So you spot it is because he does not have the team mates to do it then?

he has - at least in south american competitions if winning the world cup is a huge task

The advantage he has is not like some moons ahead. It is not like comparing Barcelona to Napoli. CR has some great players too even though they are not Xaviesta. Ozil, Kaka, Alonso and Khedira are not average players. Even 2 of them make the German team extremely dangerous to play.

the advantage he has is huge.
cristiano is the only non-barcelona player that is in the top 5 players in the world today. others would be messi, xavi, iniesta and villa!

Nah! Those are the next layer of greats after the top 3 and that is where CR sits.

messi is not better than ronaldo - the 2 of them have equal greatness overall! if you see any slight difference it's because of the difference in quality in the teams they play for. i asked a question you smartly dodged. if messi and yakubu swap teams, whose team would win?

suarez, robinho, forlan have not outperformed Messi, they are not even close.
Uruguay and Brazil may have outperformed Argentina.

but these players are the reason their respective countries outperformed messi's argentina!

StarBoard: Tokyo,
you are simply not befitting of the status of Poster of the year, even in your motor park.

what is this tokyo rubbish this guy is spewing?
did you just learn tokyo is a city or what's your fascination with tokyo? no wonder your face looks like danny welbeck's fecal matter.

logica: LOL. So Napoli was like Real Zaragoza? The same Napoli squad that included the deadly Careca?

maradona had already won serie a for napoli before careca joined him down. check the history and try again.

OCTAVO: So drinking alcohol is now fun right? You mean there are no other better ways to catch fun?

if drinking alcohol is not fun, what is it then? torture?
what other ways are there to catch fun? adultery?

You are obviously typing under the influence of alcohol.

still at work - so no alcohol in the system yet.
can't wait to get home and do some hennessey - the weather is freezing!

naijababe: Abi o and somebody tell me say make i dey play guitar.

don't mind the "holier than thou" crew......they have a problem with a married woman drinking but would not hesitate to impregnate silifat(their next door neighbour's housemaid)

dayokanu: So we can say at least from the stats available, AS AT 7 days ago Torres was the worst striker in the league. Agreed?

nope - i cannot agree.....
the stats only prove chelsea as a team are useless......

the key issue for me is this - torres takes the least number of shots could mean 2 things. chelsea don't create enough chances per game or torres passes the ball when he should be taking shots on goal. which is which? i know the anti-torres crew would blame him from hiding because his confidence is shot but he has the highest shot accuracy of all the strikers on the list!

think about it, drink around it, ponder over it and tell me if torres' problem was missing chances or not getting enough chances per game to make him score like his counterparts
you see, making smart deductions from statistics is not ambiguous at all. just open your eyes and the solution is right there!

dayokanu: Every stat that shows us Torres is dud is misleading Fellaini Michu dont take penalties do they?
The stats was taken as at a week ago.

a week ago, torres has 4 goals - now he has 6
in that same week, some of the strikers on that list completed 90 mins and did not add to their goals tally - so you don't think the stats are misleading? compute the latest stats this week and get back to us!

dayokanu: Look no further than this

https://cdn.eplindex.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Defoe.png

Torres Michu and Suarez have the highest number of minutes and starts Yet Torres has the lowest clear cut chance conversion among those 3

Torres has the worst minute per goal of all the strikers compared, Tied for the least shot on target with Giroud, , Has the lowest shots off target (What we have been saying Torres is too timid to take shots) The worst min/per shots on target

even this stat is misleading.....
torres has added 2 goals more and he does not take set pieces...bar the pen on saturday. since this stat was published, tevez, giroud and defoe have fired blanks which would render these figures useless....

van persie, ba, suarez, defoe take penalties on a regular - penalty/freekick are clear cut chances(i hope you are aware)!

dayokanu: This was Rooneys first goal yesterday. Was this a clear cut chance? Did he not have 2 defenders surrounding him before he created space to his right and got the shot away?

https://i.minus.com/ibkpA8V7JxysT7.gif

rooney had one striker to beat when he received the ball.......it was ashley young that was surrounded, not rooney. if that was hazard or oscar, they would have taken that ball into city's box before passing it and by then rooney's chances would be gone as it would have allowed city to reorganise quickly! the more seconds taken to release the ball, the less clear cut the chance would be.

dayo, try again!

dayokanu: I got the below from a Liverpool blog for last season figures

RVP 21%
Roone 23%y
Aguero 23%
BA 21%
Dempsey 15%
Adebayor 18%
Ciise 42% - Best
Balotelli 25%
Holt 22%
Jelavic 31%
Graham 18%
Torres 13%
Suarez 11% - Worst

surprise surprise - torres is the only one who completed a full season and does not take set pieces out of that long list. you negroes should try again......

OCTAVO: The bolded is a senseless statement.

nah - you are brainless....
it's people like you with no fun in your lives that perpetrate the most heinous crimes against humanity.......every human being needs an outlet to destress. moderation is the key here as we all know too much of everything is bad. if you overeat, you would die of a horrible disease as well and food has claimed more lives than drugs, alcohol and even tobacco. should i stop eating too?

Sagamite: I think the 2 greatest prior to him were Pele and Maradona.
It is hard to make comparisons because:

comparisons can be made - national team is a very good way to start!

- Maradona played in a not so strong club football team while Messi plays in the best football team I have ever seen.

the more reason maradona is better - he went to napoli - the equivalent would be real zaragoza in this day and age and maradona won them serie a and uefa cup. we often hear the phrase "one player does not make a team" but maradona proved that theory wrong!

- Pele played in an era when it was part-time fishermen that were footballers and never played abroad in his prime while Messi plays with some of the greatest athletes ever seen and plays in one of the best leagues in the world and frequently against the best in the world.

pele won a world cup @ 17. not as a passenger but as the real pilot of the brazil squad. his goals in the semis and the final of 1958 were some of the best goals scored in a world cup in the black/white television era.

But against both he has won more individual awards and is doing the impossible while playing with the best.

this is because the way we watch football has changed. now, it's all about goals and statistics. xavi is a greater player than zidane or nedved or even platini but he would never ever get the accolades they got because he does not score 1347 goals in 78 games.

Maradona is more inspirational but Messi has replicated everything he did individually on the pitch including his best goal.

messi hasn't replicated maradona - not for argentina at least!
even the all south american affair - copa america is beyond messi.

Pele only played in an era where most of the players probably had my fitness, even the international players. Okay, I lied about my fitness but you get the point.

but some of the tackles defenders made in that era would attract INTERPOL or the human rights activists to make an arrest on the pitch. defenders were practically breaking bones then - why do you think tackles from behind was outlawed? pele/maradona were men not the sissies we have today.

That argument is not even specious at all.
- They were not even in the 10 for both FIFA and EU awards.
- If it was political, a foreigner would not win an EU one.

that's exactly what i am saying - i don't need an award to tell me who was the best player in 2010. sneihder's goals eliminated barcelona in the champions league. sneijder then went on to take holland to their first world cup final and yet he was left out in the award while messi who got battered by ozil and muller went on to win the ballon d'or? messi draws the romantics - he is the modern cinderella story....a boy that could not play because of his bone problem as a child and later became great - he uses that history of
his to garner empathy. messi is humble, ronaldo is proud - that's the mentality!

Nah! They play different roles but they surely do not have more dribbling skills, pace or dead ball skills than Messi.
Iniesta comes close in dribbling but is still behind.
Xavi comes close in dead balls but is still behind.
Vision-wise, they are both better but that is their job as midfielders.

they are both better than messi as an all round footballer. when it comes to awareness of time and space - you won't find better players than xavi/iniesta. iniesta dribble better than messi with more close control. xavi's vision is unparalleled and they have higher pass completion stats than messi!

As I said above, the two have the privilege of playing with many Barca/La Masia team-mates in national team. Messi does not. Unlike them, he has to play with team-mates that don't know the passing game he played last weekend and for 9 months in a year.

who are the other la masia team mates? busquets? pique? puyol? valdez? all these players are defenders. xavi and iniesta are what make barcelona and spain tick. forget the other la masia players. the engine room is xaviesta! those 2 midgets can win a football match on their own against 11 players.

Put Iniesta in Argentine team and they would still win nada.
Put Xavi in Argentine team and they would still win nada.
It is the team style of play that makes Spain win. Xavi and Iniesta are key components, not the sole components.

they are the sole components......del bosque had to adopt the barcelona way of playing to win the last world cup and the last euros. the creative force in that midfield = xaviesta. build a team around those 2 lads and you would win championships! the blueprint to the success of any football team = xavi + iniesta!

messi in argentina is ordinary - funny how you say he has crap team mates. messi has tevez, aguero, milito, higuain, cambiasso, zanetti, veron, etc and yet they got outplayed by forlan's uruguay in the last copa. maradona played with this crap quality and dragged argentina to a world cup victory.....

He mostly plays like a support striker, not an out-and-out striker.
Barca plays with 3 support strikers.

see excuses!
messi plays as a support striker? who is he supporting?
messi is a striker for barcelona......a support striker for argentina(just like maradona or riquelme) but guess what? these other players scored tournament goals more than messi!

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Even if THEY work harder than him, they are not even in his league to mention them in the same breath. I said he works harder than the likes of Pele.

i disagree.
modern football protects strikers these days with "no tackle from behind" "preventing a goal scoring opportunity" and blah blah blah after many quality players were forced to retire because of injuries. messi couldn't have survived the football played in pele's days where a league season has about 80 games.

And so?
He out-scored them when he left the midfield.

strikers are meant to score goals more than the midfield

And so?
Messi has a better scoring record overall.

it only proves its easier to score in spain than england!
english league rejects like forlan, kanoute, rossi, etc are a living witness to that theory.
let's compare the goals ronaldo has scored in real madrid to messi's goals in barcelona.

27? That is 5 years still left in him.
Maradona won the WC at 26 and was still king at 30.
Pele won the WC at 30.
27? So?

messi has 2 world cups left for him before his career winds down
there's no sign he would win any before he retires - unless the spanish national team die in a bomb attack. even then, his chances are slim!

Messi does have an advantage but CR is not even in his league.

how would you know this? you cannot tell me messi has an advantage and yet ronaldo is not close to him. look at ronaldo's goal scoring record since he moved to spain. if ronaldo was still in england - we would all think messi is a demi-god! messi has a huge advantage and that advantage is the reason many think he's better than cristiano. this is the question you should ask yourself - if messi and yakubu swap teams, whose team would win a football game of 90 mins?

Compare CR to the likes of Henry, Gullit, Muller, Di Stephano, Eusebio etc.

ronaldo is miles ahead of the players above - not even close!

Messi plays in a great team, even in that team he is the best.

except that his greatness has not helped his country to win a pin......how great is messi when suarez, robinho, forlan, etc have all outperformed him in his continent? and we have not even mentioned his steroid overdose of his gh-therapy that has made it so difficult to knock him off the ball.

naijababe: I am almost inclined to think that you may be a tad drunk right now
Hitler never drank, never smoked and look how responsible he was na

people who don't drink are potential terrorists.
with the kind of stress humans go through on a daily basis, there has to be an outlet to unwind and destress otherwise one would amass pent-up frustrations. great sex, good food and exotic drinks are the surest way to destress. if you know anyone who does not engage in these 3 things, run from him/her cos if they get angry - they could burn down a skyscraper!

Ibime: May the yarning and analysis continue. . . all I know is Torres aint got it no more!!

shut up, fat ibime.
your stance changes more than the british weather on football issues.

4llerbuntu: go and check coogars posts. u will find ur stats there. the same ones he used to argue that chelsea dont create chances
smh

which stats are we talking about? clear cut chances?
do chelsea create those for torres? it's easy for any tool like ibime to come here and castigate torres for not scoring but are the chances laid on the plate for him? look at the last 4 goals rooney has scored for bleeps' sake - they were scored from clear cut chances....unlike the half chances chelsea fans expect torres to be scoring from. chelsea create 2-3 chances per game and baaaaaaang - they expect torres to score a hatrick from them when falcao himself only scores 1 out of the 4 chances he gets!

slimyem: Exaggeration is in the course of things and humans are inclined to exagerrate almost anything except their own mistakes.They could as well have dislocated the truth a little while trying to clarify things..

there are no exaggerations here - these are the facts of life. NYSC camps are worse than some nigerian prisons. the food is shyte....majority don't eat in the camp because of the shyte quality of the food.

..as usual with you,resort to name-calling when you run out of substance to reply or argue with. Keep it up!

having no clue about a particular subject is not name calling - just telling u as it is.

My argument was because of your basing your assertions and deductions on what just two of your cousins told you as against the experiences of millions of other people...and all your other arguments around Nysc both on this thread and on the forum like you are the all seeing and all knowing one...when in truth,all you have is just hearsay!

you mean there are NYSC camps set up like 3-star hotels? with stewards bringing food/drinks to your room? you get to watch cable tv in your room and all rooms are en suite? please - let me know these camps so i can visit.

Same thing i took you on-generalization without solid facts!
It is not all as hellish or as horrific as your paintings....and its not just about Nysc camps but about the society that birthed it which is ridden with faults itself you cannot deny.

who cares about the society that birthed NYSC? i am talking of the dilapidated state of the camps and you have resorted into philosophy. are the camps conducive enough to live in? yes or no? forget the society and answer the question.

Quit all your diasporic smear-campaigning around Nysc with your unsubstantiated facts!
Nysc has it faults on many grounds but stop blowing the problem out of proportions!
That's my issue with your arguments!

in one side of your moustached mouth you want me to quit smear campaign and yet on the other side you are admitting the scheme has it's flaws? which is which? it's either you agree NYSC camps are hell on earth or they are 3-star hotels with swimming pools and where exotic food/drinks are available. i ask again, which is which?