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nateevs: 1-0. Man. This dude is ridiculous.

112 goals in 140 apps in the last 3 seasons!
he's won 9 trophies since then too - which begs the question - what was roman thinking not splashing on this dude? torres is the only striker available - if he gets crocked, what happens to chelsea?

StarBoard: But coogar will say they are the future of the club and dig up stats that don't amount to nothing.
Instead of facing up to the under-performing nature of the quartet, they are creating excuses for their sub-par performances.

for the last time, mention another pair of wingers better than ashley young and luiz nani? it can't be that difficult - after all, the two of them are crappy! i wonder what the fans of spurs, liverpool, arsenal, chelsea and man city have to say when they put up with lennon, downing, maxi rodriguez, malouda, kalou, adam johnson, walcott, gervinho, arshavin and james milner

chuckdee4: Is that Wenger in the background as well?

that's arteta and xabi alonso back in the days.....
arsene wenger in the background scouting "male kids" as usual.....

El Guapo: [color=#0066ff]Cooger aren't u takin' ya Hydrocele ailment to the Paraolympic?

Jxt a Question from a concerned pal [/color]

thanks for letting us know you still wear your disabled badge with a pride!
mentally-handicapped peasant!

[quote author=Efemena_xy]Go stick your head far up your a $$ bloody fagg0t. And whilst you're at it, kill yourself slowly. Very slowly. Mtcheew![/quote]never knew a lamb could bite!

StarBoard: Story.
Provide a genuine link to prove Spaletti put in a 25 mill bid.Stop peddling speculative rumours.If Spaletti did, I'm pretty sure Nani would have wanted a move given that he would more than likely earn that same wage he's asking for.

you might need to upgrade your internet service cos every man and his dog know nani was courted by zenit! why would nani leave england to go and play for zenit who don't get to play champions league football? is it always about money alone?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2194473/Zenit-hope-sign-Nani-25million.html

I've checked through the net, I can't substantiate your claims on Guardiola.
Guardiola wanted Fabregas and courted him continuously for at least two years. I didn't see that with Nani. Please stick to the facts and not rumours. Please put a link.I've searched the net and can't find anything half as decent as a hint that your claim is true.

guardiola wanted nani....firstly in 2009 and then later in 2011. had they failed to land alexi sanchez, nani was their plan-b!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/5994935/community-shield-nani-looks-forward-to-stepping-out-of-cristiano-ronaldos-shadow.html

And as per explosion, why couldn't Nani do similar stuff last season? If he were paying attention to his gaffer at United, would we be having this discussion?Was Nani in the team of the tournament or not?
If not, then all you've said in the above don't mean nuttin to me, i'm sorry.

the signing of ashley young meant limited appearances! ashley young on the left meant nani and valencia had to be rotated on the right wing....even with that, he scored 8 goals and 12 assists in 2104 league minutes.....in comparison to valencia's 4 goals + 14 assists in 2124 league minutes. do the math - who's been more productive? stop embarrassing yourself, you are better than this!

Wait, you mean to tell me you'd compared a game in an FA Cup second-round tie at home with a semi-final replay at a neutral ground?

the prize at stake was the same thing - arsenal were running away with the league title in 2008. that performance buoyed united's confidence and shattered arsenal's. their form went belly up after that particular game.

You mean to tell me that ball-juggling can be compared to running at 5 Arsenal players in extra time and scoring the winner in the process after United were down to 10 men?
You mean to tell me the Arsenal team of 2007/8 was anything to write home about and compare it with the Arsenal side of 1999 that we pipped to the title by just one point,as good as our team then was?

arsenal of 07/08 were as good if not better than the 98/99 team. arsenal of 2007/8 led the league from august till march that season. they were 5 points clear of the united team that had the holy trinity, a fit owen hargreaves and a tip-top central defensive partnership of rip and vidic! that arsenal team played the best brand of football in the last 7 seasons or thereabout until the nani show!!!!

Honestly I have no replies for you on this one.Like I said, let Nani decide an FA Cup semi-final when we are down to 10 men in extra time. Then I will compare him to Giggs,and endorse whatever raise he's asking for.

nani decided a community shield against our bitterest rivals in man city! although the prize @ stake here was not too important but there's no friendly in a manchester derby! city gave it their best - mancini was desperate for a win and nani scored 2 good goals to see off a city squad that was built with half a billion pounds!

Circumstancial rebuttal at best.
And Giggs has put in great performances.Otherwise his longevity would be a non-factor.Or do you have any other reasons why he has lasted this long at United?

how many great performances has he put in the last 5 seasons? giggs is a liability these days - he's just enjoying the fact that he's a member of the fergie's fledglings!

And how many times thereafter, 5 seasons after, has he repeated those feats?Herein lies the crux of my argument, but you refuse to get it

how many games did nani play in his first 2 seasons he was here? ronaldo didn't let him get a sniff. his emergence came after ronaldo departed and he's been good value for money since ronaldo left. go check out his stats in the last 3 seasons and marvel!

And name those sticky situations he bailed us out from;i seem to have a brain lag. . .or is it just that he hasn't done exactly that?. . .

plenty of games - nani's assist or nani's goal has saved us plenty of times! i cannot begin to count! his exploits at the emirates alone is enough to make him a legend!

Ah but the stats dont tell us Dembele was ineffective (according to you) in the first half.
The stats tell us Dembele had 96% pass completion,for instance. How does that conote what you claim?

dembele was ineffective in the first half - the first half stats said so, his manager said so. if he was effective, his team wouldn't have gone 3-1 down. he stepped it up 15 mins after the 2nd half when sidwell came on and dembele became a 2nd striker....he mauled united's defenders not united's midfield!

the 96% pass completion were also passes that didn't hurt united. anderson copped 95% pass completion. none of the united midfielders copped less than 90% so who did dembele maul in the midfield? like i keep saying, it was late in the second half when he played in the hole that he did the damage!

Face it,stats don't tell us everything about a game.
Again,I might be wrong,but how does a midfielder maul a defence without getting past a midfield?Please explain, I might be short of memory chips in my head.

long balls over the midfield - duh! that was what fellaini did against everton! united had all the possession but fellaini still mauled the defence. everton kept lumping it up to him and he kept winning the aerial battle! we had no answer to fellaini as a second striker just like we had no answer to dembele(when he moved to that position)!!!

So you finally agree that Rooney is more important than Nani

i did not say that - i said nani and rooney are the only united players that can conjure magic out of nowhere. rooney aside, nani is the only other united player with a magic wand! if rooney is on £200k/week, nani should be on £160k/week at least!

Toni Valencia was 2 light years behind Nani yet he managed to be voted the clubs player of the season for last season. I remain to be convinced.

laughable excuse - as you can see above....nani had more productivity than valencia..hell, ashley young had more productivity than nani/valencia but football fans are romantics...valencia got the vote after what he went through with his injury...to actually come back and still perform to the level at which he did last season requires some mental strength so he deserved the award! on the pitch though, valencia was our 3rd most productive winger!!!

Nani's shooting is atrociouos.Let's not even debate that.
Nani for all his bravery (cries and moans like a biyatch) hasn't gotten anywhere near the stratospheric levels you claim his "potential"should have carried him. Instead he's haggling for an improved contract using his agent as his ammo instead of his performances.

nani's shooting is atrocious? petr cech and all sane chelsea fans disagree with you! if his shots are atrocious, what would you say about valencia's? remember nani's debut against tottenham? his goal against reina that season? you are really short of memory chips!!

Apparently you haven't had to recover from a serious knee injury when you're 30 years old and your body is battle-weary, so I don't expect you to make any sense of what your captain is saying. I'm also glad you said you want him to give us both because he 'hasn't given us wins by himself.

it puts things into perspective then that the captain that scored an own goal is pointing accusing finger to his teammates! if vidic is now battle-weary, let him retire so we know we need an experienced head in the defence! his defence has conceded 3 goals - i know what fans would be saying if it's rio marshalling the defence!

Ask Ashley Cole who Valencia is.OT vs Chelsea back-end of 2010/11.
vs Chelsea at OT Champions league ame season.

is that all? this valencia must be special! look around europe and tell me which fullback nani has not mauled.... bayern? barcelona(preseason battles), milan, etc. you are clutching at straws now, ain't you?

Nani won us a meaningless Charity Shield but when the title was at the line at the Etihad (when it mattered more) he hid under everybody else.Where was he then?

valencia(your hero) took part in the game too - where was he? where was rooney? your manager lined up giggs, park and scholes against city's barry, nasri and yaya toure and you want nani to light up the stage? leo messi would have been nonexistent on the night....

He met Baines on the 20th of August (just 11 days ago).What happened?

i could say the same for rooney, vidic, scholes, evra, ferguson, etc. yes let's sack all of them!

Blasphemous at best.
Ronaldo was tearing up the Dutch Eredivisie at that age.So try another line.
Rooney was nowhere near the Great One at that age or at any phase of his career,

i meant cristiano ronaldo - not fat ronaldo! @18/19, rooney was the better player!!

Are Tevez/Aguero's styles similar to Messi to warrant comparisons?

yes!
they all play for argentina - same built, same stocky frames, similar attributes!

If Fergie was daft enough to give Ashley Young that contract(which I still feel is fraudulent at best), then Nani should take up the challenge to prove the old man wrong,instead of bitching like a wimp about his contract.

nani has proven himself already - he's won our player of the season, he's been the mos productive winger in the top division in the last 3 seasons....the ashley young you deride at every given opportunity was our most productive winger last season - it seems you just love arguing against facts and logic.....it's a no brainer - fergie would give nani what he wants and he would be very idiotic to let him leave the club!

for the umpteenth time, mention a better winger than nani in the premier league and stop evading the question.....

https://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5072eyo2U1r5fgkto1_1280.jpg

picture of the day - who can name the 2 youngsters in the pic?

debosky: So Fergie dropping Rooney for RVP last week says something about the value of Rooney?

i wonder.....

RVP was rubbish at the Euros, did that stop Utd paying 250k for him?

ronaldo was rubbish in euro 2008, did it stop Madrid paying £80 m?
starboard is a fantasist!

Your weak logic doesn't stand up to scrutiny. The fact is that coaches pick players with the best form/attributes at a particular time, and it doesn't mean the others were rubbish. A player's performance over the course of the season is the best reflection - 10 goals and 14 assists is a high level of performance in any season in the EPL no matter how you cut it.

more than 24 hrs later and starboard has not mentioned a better wined than nani in the premier league and he wants us to sell him and replace him with who? jarvis? lennon? adam johnson? larsson? mcclean? gervinho?

Nani is a maverick - by nature that makes him inconsistent, just like Robben. Your issue is more to do with the type of player Nani is than his performances. If you're looking for Valencia-type performances you're wasting your time because they are different types of players.

nailed!
the type of player nani is makes him inconsistent but it also makes him a magician! this is why he's more likely to conjure something out of nothing cos he's not afraid to take risks!
valencia on the other hand loves to play it safe and he's far predictable! a pacy fullback renders valencia impotent cos he lacks the trickery nani has got!

chamotex: Wrong!
Wenger watched Elokobi tonight. It's going to happen

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arsenal should sign drogba!

bittyend: I don't think the police are allowed to give an official statement about an accused, until him/her has been charged with the offence. The undisclosed 'sources' might be people from the police. I also don't think this particular media outlet would risk getting sued for billions, just to create a sensational headline about murder. The guy in question is a celebrity, and murder is a serious crime.

the police are not allowed to give official statement that they are holding an individual for questioning? in which part of the world? please don't make me laugh! they don't have to disclose what they are asking him but it's the right of the media to know if someone is being held or not - standard!!!!

If this story turns out to be false, the actor should file a civil case for billions of naira.

how many people have won such civil case in nigeria where a trial can last 44 years? please let's be realisitc - such nonsense is fantasy!

bittyend: And you think Nigerian police would give them those things in the bolded part, when the guy in question hasn't been charged?

i mean a photo/video of any police officer confirming the story! a statement from the police is enough: "we can confirm we have mr so and so here for police questioning, investigation is still going on so we cannot say much for now". that is enough for me!

however, this idiotic journalist just plucked out lies from his rectum and you want me to take his words as the gospel? hell no! he's a fraud!

bittyend: This is his side of the story

I don't think he would be in the homicide section of the force headquarters, if he was clean. I know he's innocent, till proven guilty in a court of law, but he's in the homicide section, and law abiding citizens don't get locked up there.

so because he said so makes it the gospel truth? why didn't he go to the homicide section and get a statement or a quote from the media officer to confirm the actor is actually there for police questioning? no photos, no video clips, no official statement from the homicide section to confirm the man is actually there and you want me to just follow this story?

my guy - this is lazy journalism!

Shollypopz: Who's being an a*ss now?

you, shollypopz!

Just in case u are thinking of giving ur wife an ultimatum one day, just rmbr a Shollypopz [/b]warned u.........

i doubt my wife would even need me to threaten her before she respects my wishes - she wants my happiness cos she can only be at peace when i am happy!

[b]The op's last reply to this thread:

"contd, on my trust issue, because she so much trusted me all these while, i also want to get a level where i can trust her so much too. Her trusting me gives me some confidence, i need her to have some confidence. But that aside, the issue of comunicating with an Ex is what i dont like, its nt healthy, & dats why i left all my Exes to enjoy their homes, rather giving them old memories. thks God she now understand with me. We are working on d healing process now. Thk u all & God bless".

they are working on the process? goodluck to them - i hope she listens for good now and puts her ex in a distant memory! exes are exes for a reason: a closed chapter, if i have to communicate with my ex every week then why did i leave her in the first place?

Always bear in mind that on NL, u only hear one side of the story.........

yes we do and we all form our opinion based on what we read/hear!!! my response to what i hear solves what i have heard!

bittyend: I know what you mean; I guess that was why the messenger had to quote 'sources', without naming the sources. Perhaps, the messenger is just trying to play safe, in case the story turns out to be false.

trying to play safe? he's crucified the actor with his idiotic article! he has already passed judgement on the actor without hearing the other side of the story!

The ethics of Journalism don't work in today's journalism, sensationalism has taken over, not just in Nigeria but all over the world.

i understand this perfectly - i do condemn some shitty articles on dailymail, the sun, etc as well. however, those media outlets won't even sink this deep to report an article. no matter the sensationalism, they still paint a balanced picture and they would always make the effort to hear from the other party!

Shollypopz: I think 'Nairalanders' scan through ppl's post and they don't read diligently....

is that what you do?

What Kobojunkie has been trying to say is:
1.) Tell the op not to take action that would hurt his marriage even more e.g giving ultimatums, threatening.....

the op has tried to be a gentleman but the wife went back to open talks again with her ex!
you mean the op should fold his hands - of course, ultimatums and threats should be made!

2.) All the op can do is complain to his wife 'bitterly' (as d op likes to put it) and hope that she respects his feelings enough to break the chains of communication with her ex.

the op should hope the wife respects his feelings? the same feelings she pissed on the first time? you are assuming this woman is normal, she's not!!! the only way to straighten her up is to take the respect by force! the subtle way has not worked otherwise we won't be here - so what makes you think it would work now....

3.) The op is only contemplating that there has been further conversations going on with his wife and her ex apart from a few happy birthday calls, condolence visit when her mum/dad died........Kobojunkie is trying to say the conversations btw d Op's wife and her Ex might be completely harmless and the op needs to act rationally.

if it walks like a [color=#000000]c[/color]ock, talks like a [color=#000000]c[/color]ock then it must be a [color=#000000]c[/color]ock! my intuition is enough, i don't have to wait until my spouse gets knocked up by her ex before i act accordingly! why should any married woman be talking to her ex? what are they discussing? reminiscing about the sex they had back in the days or not - some women are just twisted!

I don't know who [b]Kobojunkie [/b]is, in fact I just noticed the 'person' on NL, but I'm sure he/she is a 'super person', lol

i don't know kobo too but my gut instincts say she's an arse!

*btw, I love ur profile picture*

I love yours too!

bittyend: It seems you haven't been of Guardian UK lately. Using 'source' is common practice in today's journalism, and it isn't only Nigerian journalists. CNN and other big media sources do the same.

The most important thing is the message, not the messenger.

if the message is untrue, the messenger might get stoned to death!
this is not player transfer news - this is about smearing the reputation of an innocent man and the death of his wife! the police or the hospital have not made any official statement and this author lied the autopsy of the corpse has been done and a certain toxic pill was found in her system. you actually believe this nonsense?

Shollypopz: Exactly what [b]Kobojunkie [/b]was trying to say.....Absolutely, no respect!!

.....SMH!.........

no respect? has the wife respected me by speaking to her ex after i have told her to stop?
be following kobojunkie's ill-advised comments. she's probably someone's punchbag in a village in kogi state who comes to nairaland to form superwoman!

stagger: Doctors in the house, is it possible to discover an intact pill in someone's "system" so many hours after swallowing?

This story looks like a real BS story; so full of sh[i]i[/i]t. Besides what truth ever comes out of torture?

the most idiotic story ever written but trust nigerians to swallow it line hook and sinker. everything a nigerian reads on the internet is the truth! eba particles have distorted the thought process of the average nigerian!

[color=#000000]r[/color]etarded article!
a source revealed, a source said, a source confessed - what source? police? relatives? eye witness? neighbours? this is lazy journalism and an attempt to tarnish the image of this guy! i am not buying this nonsense article!

may amadioha impregnate the author of this article with 3 albino midgets!!!

Kobojunkie: Look, if you want to advice him personally, go right ahead. But do not pretend you can throw my argument down so you can make your inane comments. What I said does not change, regardless of the circumstances. YOU ABSOLUTELY DO NOT TRY TO FORCE YOUR WILL AND YOUR INSECURITIES ON OTHERS .. . EVEN THOSE YOU ARE MARRIED TO.

arrant nonsense!
so even if the person he's married to is behaving like an animal, the husband has no right to correct her? where do people get their warped philosophies from? his wife is talking to her ex for goodness sake - do dogs associate with cats? any married woman who prefers speaking to her ex against her husband's wish is a [color=#000000]w[/color]hore or an aspiring hoodrat! how many women would feel comfortable with their husbands chit-chatting with their exes??

i trust my wifey - dem no born am well!

chamotex: Galatasaray away should be the only place we are allowed to drop points

welcome to hell!

sisikill needs orheptal!

[quote author=Erelu_Y]@ obadiah777: Please tell us where in the UK you studied and we'll be able to tell you why it's possibly a shytttt. Even so, and as many have rightly asserted on this thread, the facilities, faculties and milieus of the best Nigerian university cannot be compared with those of the worst UK university. In fact, there is no basis for any such comparisons. It's like comparing Idaho in the USA and Idaho in Ekiti. lol.[/quote]idaho in ekiti beats Idaho of usa hands down!!!

[quote author=Sisi_Kill]Call me naive oh but I've always been of the opinion that you have sexxx with someone you feel intimately close to, someone you trust and are very attracted to. So I just can't understand how OP can still find the monster she has describe here attractive enough to have sexx with him again and again.[/quote]yes, you are naive!
sex doesn't have to be with someone you love, trust, gravitational force of attraction, etc
forget your mills and boon, sex is a reflex action. when you are hungry, you eat. thirst - drink, itch - scratch!

It's either one just lays there like a log of wood, taking a flight of fancy while the deed is being done (And that has to be one hell of a flight of fancy) or the verbal and physical abuse is a form of pre-intimacy. . .warped but pre-intimacy nonetheless.

can't blame the op - she's still his wife!
marriage duties must be fulfilled. she was hoping her method would work but it wasn't to be.

montelik: damn, after last year I was hoping for a tougher group so complacency wouldn't be a concern.

if we get anything less than 15 points in this group, fergie should be sacked!

StarBoard: Please spare me jor.
This news about his contract details has been on since the Euros.So it's not a new thing.
I repeat:if Nani was all that,as people think he is, I'm sure he'd not be a United player by now.

other clubs know united won't sell him so they didn't even try - spaletti of zenit tabled £25m bid but fergie rejected it! why would united sell nani? if nani was a player of another club, fergie would have bought him. that's our dna - we stock out and out wingers!

As per the Pep bid, even if it were true, that was 2s easons ago:an age in football.Ask many people what happened 2 seasons ago and all you'll get are very vague responses.
And i'm yet to see what you mean by Nani exploding.He never has.Ronaldo exploded for 42 goals in one season.Rooney exploded for 34 goals in one season by April and would have gotten more had injury not scuppered his season.

guardiola wanted nani - it's all over the net, it's not a question of if it were true.....
nani exploded when he won our player of the season - got the highest number of assists in the league(20 in the premier league alone) - explosion is not only about scoring goals alone!

Not going to get into a name-calling game with you because modern football has moved beyong wing-play, and wingers are adapting to other styles that suit today's game.
And quit making excuses for Nani.

nani would play to the instructions of his gaffer - you saw him in the euros, one of the best players @ the tourney! did he look out of place amongst the wingers in that tourney? he even did well than ronaldo minus goal scoring - he was always the one making the final pass.....13 key passes!

All that talk about not being perfect is what i don't understand.Also, I'm not understanding why you say Giggs in his prime was frustrating.For effs sake, Giggs is avenues ahead of Nani.Let Nani decide an FA Cup tie vs our bitterest rivals with a place in the finals at stake by beating 5 men and scoring, then I'll agree they should be named in the same sentence

nani put in a much better performance against the same rival in his debut season here.... man utd 4-0 arsenal(2008)! nani was so good arsene wenger accused him of showboating! giggs was frustrating, more frustrating than nani but ryan played in a much better team with keane, scholes, stam, yorke, etc. when united had a stronger team in 07/08, nani was mercurial!

I don't need this futsall nonsense to make me think he is effective.Giggs with his one leg remains the best left winger in United's history,and Nani doesn;t even get into the same argument on the right when limited and less-talented players are mentioned.

yeah, let's compare giggs to nani - nani has spent 21 seasons at old trafford so the comparison is justified. this argument is tedious! giggs gets this accolades because of his longevity not necessarily because of his performance. giggs would have been sold since 2007 if mourinho was our gaffer! which ryan giggs are we talking about here?

Nani can't play both wings effectively.He has to cut in to his right foot when he's on the left to get anything off.Even the right wing we think he excels in, he makes it seem like hard work.So how is he the best winger in the league when he's hardly efficient?

he's as good on the left as he can be on the right! when he mauled arsenal and liverpool in 07/08, he did so from the left channel! we are lucky we have a player like him! he has bailed us out from sticky situations more than any winger has done for his club since we have had him here......

Contradicting how?
You gave stats on Sunday showing how Dembele was a more efficient player than Anderson and Cleverley.You then staarted telling us how the same Dembele excelled when Sidwell was brought in midway to the second half.How then are we to believe that stats tell us everything when they didn't tell us his performance between substitutions?
Stats are just stats:I never read much into them.It's what I see in games that makes me come to conclusions.

i have told you - dembele was non-existent in the first half when it was a straight match-up between ando-clev and dembele-diarra. the united boys ran rings around him. martin jol said the same, the stats said the same. then vidic scored an own goal which completely changed the tide of the game. smart martin jol then pushed dembele further up the pitch to trouble our shaky defense partnership - dembele mauled our defence, not the midfield!

Like I said, I'd take efficiency over flash,so if Nani likes, let him wow everybody from now till kingdom come.If Valencia will provide the telling pass (how many of those does Nani provide) more often than do one step over after the other,I'm ok.

nani has got both in his ammo - he has got flair and he's pretty efficient - his stats(productivity) shat on valencia's. nani can shoot better, dribble better and make something out of the ordinary! apart from rooney, nani is the only other player that can wave the magic wand out of nowhere and deliver! it's not debatable and he's scored more goals against tough defences than any other winter in the league! abeg, tony valencia is 2 light years below nani! he's afraid to try and too conservative, in this business - fortune favours the brave!

Even Vidic said United have to forget about playing pretty and focus on winning back the title two days ago.Which do you prefer:wow or we won?

vidic should shut up and sort out his fitness problems first before pointing fingers. he scored an own goal, got dominated by fellaini and was given a horrid time by dembele and ruiz....what chutzpah has he got to point fingers? wow or victory? i want both and nani gives us both!

I mentioned Gael Clichy and Philip Lahm, you're bringing a central defender nobody takes seriously who was asked to play at full back and you expect me to believe Nani does things to full-backs.You talk about Kompany stupidly going in wit hhis studs up and you credit it to Nani.Why didn't he do same when we played City three months later at the Etihad?

so which of these big names has valencia murdered? nani sold it to kompany and kompany bought it. it was this same nani that won us the shield after we went 2 goals down. he got the equaliser and the winner(by [color=#000000]r[/color]aping kompany)!

What about his performances against the likes of Ashley Cole,Leighton Baines, to mention a few in England? And of those "game-changing"moments, how many have United gone on to win courtesy of Nani?

nani has mauled all those fullbacks way way before - do i need to jog your memory? you forgot nani's belter against chelsea last season? his numerous decapitation of baines in previous duels? why are you trying to rewrite history?

Nani is in a position where folks will inevitably compare him to Ronaldo:same club,same nationality.Similar style of play.Nani gels his hair too like his countryman.
So where do the Rooney/Ronaldo comparisons come from?What begat the Valencia/Messi comparison?

rooney was a better player than ronaldo at 18/19, how did ronaldo leave rooney in the pits? why should we compare nani to ronaldo? i don't see city fans compare tevez/aguero to messi or do you?

Didn't you post a stat on how Nani achieved 100 goals faster than Ronaldo in United when we beat Chelsea at OT last season?So how am I wrong here?

the basis of that comparison was by the virtue of the position they play for man utd not because of their nationality. i would have done the same for pius ikedia and ronaldo if they both played for man utd!

Theo Walcott is an Arsenal player and I have no business whatsoever with him.Let Nani's talking be done on the pitch and the pay-rise will come.When he becomes a sought-after player by clubs around Europe,no one will need to convince United of the need to give him a boost. If Nani is using Walcott as inspiration, then he is even sillier than I give him credit for.

nani has about 18 months left on his contract - this is the time to renegotiate his contract, it has nothing to do with walcott or balotelli. nani deserves a raise especially when ashley young is on £120k/week!! if we wait till he shows something on the pitch, his contract would run down to 6 months - fergie should pay up and stop brainfarting!

since the media have managed to sensationalize this news now then those students won't be deported except the ones who don't have the "leave to remain" in the united kingdom. sadly, they might all lose a year as most universities have completed registration and gearing up to start a new session! much ado about nothing really - only few schools in the london area are worth the stress - others are just shyte!!

APII: 1. Nonso is guilty for selling a control drug without doctors prescription.

no one has argued he wasn't guilty of selling a controlled drug - although i would get the same controlled drug in every state capital in nigeria without producing a doctor's prescription note!

2. It is likely that Cynthia's murderers may have told police that they do buy from Nonso sometimes, because I don't think police just woke up one morning and decide to rope Nonso into the matter.

if they told the police they do get the drugs from nonso, then it would have been a straight arrest! they wouldn't need to send an old man to nonso to pretend he needed the drug to cure his stomach pain! the nigerian police i know are shoddy and thoughtless - they just assumed the pharmacy where the drug was bought must be in the same vicinity of the crime scene! i am not convinced the police know where the drug was bought!!!!

texazzpete: Bloody lies on the part of the hotel management.

I've stayed in some other Cosmilla suites before and never have I been asked to produce identification before checking in.

All this medicine-after-death whitewashing of reputation is just so obvious!

that's nigeria for you - if it's possible, police would arrest the hotel staff just to milk money from them. it was from this same hotel the police were able to watch the cctv of the murder suspects and get their identities - but someone must always pay the price when something like this happens. the hotel staff would join the 45 million unemployed youths in the country!

nigeria - i hail thee!

StarBoard: Trust me, coogar,no one cares about wingers too much to be bothered.If that were the case,why wouldn't the Chelseas, the Citys,the Barcelonas, the Madrids be scampering for his signature at the slightest hint of a contractual dispute with United?.
No one is talking about his performance vs Everton.His performances generally have not been consistent enough to warrant (a)the notion that he adds anything new in terms of dimension to United's play, and (b)a demand for a rise in pay.The Everton game is an example of what can happen on his bad day,and be honest, there have been a lot of them.

they are not scampering for his signature because of the timing of the news. most clubs have finished their summer shopping and dealing with how to bed in their fresh acquisitions. 2 seasons ago - even before nani exploded in this league, pep guardiola made a bid for him that we rejected.... i could fish out this news if you push me!

You're claiming Nani is the best winger in the EPL.I beg to disagree.How can he be the best winger when he can't even take a corner to beat the first man or deliver a telling cross from distance to pick out someone in the box, as we saw vs Everton?
We don't need a replacement for Nani.We've got Young,Valencia and even Giggs.

nani is the best winger in the league - you would have to name a better winger to at least counter my argument - not pointing out nani's weaknesses. he's a winger for crying out loud. their art has no perfection - they would always be frustrating unlike central midfielders who dictate the flow of the game! was giggs not frustrating in his prime?

Which validates my position that the world doesn't care too much about wingers anymore.

the world isn't man utd - we play 4-4-2/4-3-3 more often than any other formation so we need our out n out wingers. every club has its own philosophy and ours seem to work well with wingers like nani. i have thrown down the gauntlet - name a better winger in the whole of premier league - start with one winger who can play both left n right flanks and own it like nani does....

Stats don't tell the whole story, as you know during the Dembele argument.
Nani is a liability. Besides he's as useless on the left as Valencia is on the right.You said that yourself (not exactly verbatim) but that's not even my point.For all his ambidextrousity,he's not half as effective as Valencia is.I'm sure you get infuriorated at least once by Nani when he tries to go for glory when a simple pass would have been the better option, and his baloon to row z for good measure.
If we're concerned about stats, I think we should give the ones that have to do with pass completion/ball retention and see how effective he is to the over-all play for us.

you are even contradicting yourself.......
only statistics can tell who is effective and who isn't.....what the eyes see can often misguide us because of the love/hate of the style of different players. statistically, nani is better than valencia. that said, nani frustrates fans more and this is because he is not afraid to try out outrageous moves - valencia loves to play it too safe and this is why nani has more wow moments than valencia can ever have.......nani is more explosive - always willing to do the outrageous and when it pays off, we go wow! when it doesn't, we take out kitchen knives and hack him down........nani's superior game changing ability makes him much better than valencia and he's only 25!

Unfortunately it's ironic that anyone with the above emboldened traits can find some way to make up for those defects. If he claims to be a winger, as we think he is or as we feel he is masquerading as, I'm sure you know that those two traits are enough to nullify whatever threats he has to offer for us. Áside from mauling Clichy at the Emirates and dealing with Lahm at OT in the Champions League, can anyone remember when last the "mercurial"Lius Nani did anything damaging to an opposing marker?

ask djorou that question when he clashed with nani @ the emirates just last season!
ask vincent kompany when he was forced to cop a red card as a result of nani tearing him a new one! nani has more game changing moments than any winger the premier league has seen since ronaldo's departure! it's not even debatable - there's no better traditional winger anywhere better than nani in the united kingdom!

My point is, he needs to solidify his game to the point where opposing teams give themselves two weeks notice to map out a detailed and specific plan to deal with him when they know a match vs United is at hand, just like Ronaldo used to give oppossing coaches nightmares for days towards the end of his United stint.Otherwise,there's nothing special and spectacular about him and there's no basis for him demanding for a pay-hike.

so if nani can't play like the best player on the planet then he's shyte? has rooney played like fat ronaldo? has valencia played like messi? please - you should stop this line of argument. nani and ronaldo are 2 different individuals. you are doing the equivalent of saying alhaji dangote is not successful, he's not as rich as mark zuckerberg!

theo walcott is haggling for a pay rise and nani shouldn't? rooney is on £250k per week and you think nani should remain on £90k/week? let's reason objectively - there's no daylight between rooney and nani in my opinion and alex fergie would be extremely [color=#000000]s[/color]tupid to sell nani at this point in his united career! nani is one of the heartbeats of that team. opposition fear him even if some of our fans don't!

bxg: http://www.redmancunian.com/2012/08/28/why-selling-nani-would-be-a-huge-mistake/
You all shld hav a look

why should we sell nani? is there a better winger in the premier league? sell nani with 2 days before the transfer window slams shut and then get who to replace him? theo walcott? downing? lennon? pennant? do these critics know what they are talking about @ all? sell nani on the back of a poor game @ everton? we should sell rooney and vidic too cos they were poor on the night too!

nani's criticisms make me laugh - he's inconsistent? there's no consistent winger anywhere on the planet. every fan complains about their wingers - arsenal fans can't stand walcott/gervinho/arshavin......bayern can't stand robben and sometimes diss ribery, liverpool fans want to get rid of downing, adam johnson just got sold by city, and i can go on and on!

luis nani is mercurial - he gives our attack a different dimension. he's ambidextrous unlike valencia who cannot use his left foot to do anything. nani's stats should be looked into and compared to the other wingers in the top division and maybe then people would appreciate the job he does for us......rather than sell nani, i would rather have giggs/scholes sold.....

[quote author=tpia@]so far what everyone heard was the killers paid forher airfare and hotel room.[/quote]duh! cynthia is dead - her own version of the story cannot be heard, his killers said they paid for her ticket and accommodation, how do we know they are speaking the truth?

this is actually standard procedure used in runs transactions- not saying she was one.

but this is not runs.....this is date [color=#000000]r[/color]ape!

verification of the money used would include where the ticket was purchased, etc.

this doesn't make sense!
you are in lagos, i am in kano - if you sent money to my account from lagos and i purchased ticket in kano, does where the ticket was purchased signify who actually paid the ticket? come on - task your brains!

kindly stop grasping at straws plz.

you are the one jumping into conclusions without exploring other possibilities - no one can say for sure who paid for what. cynthia is dead and i don't believe those murderers!