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[quote author=tpia@]but i already told you i did not find women to be more intelligent than men during my teenage years.[/quote]the men and women you are talking about in your teenage years - were they teenagers themselves or senior citizens?

that was actually the time I discovered females dont have higher IQs in general than males.

that's quite strange but then the question begs ---- how did you deduce the women then didn't have a higher intelligence quotient than their male counterparts?

dayokanu: In Sports Intelligent is the same as Talented.



On one level this is a remarkable boast, but from Best it sounds banal. George Best is an intelligent man. He has an IQ of 158 and was the only child in his class to pass his eleven-plus. But this 'yeah' is clearly, understandably, a tired answer to a question he has been asked far too many times. He has, after all, been told he is a genius so often that it seems unremarkable to him

Even a charitable assessment of George Best's character would have to allow that he has been immature, self-centred, vain, bloody-minded and possibly cynical in the way that he has made a lot of money out of talking about his illness - 'I use the press as much as it uses me,' he says

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/4725782/The-Best-of-all-worlds.html

you are a troglodyte!
what part of "within the same time frame" got lost on you? best was intelligent when he was young and he later became an addict of alcohol and possibly drugs and you are here
merging over 3 decades to prove combined intelligence and immaturity? you need to give back your degree certificate- you don't deserve it!

by a stroke of fate, if bill gates become an addict tomorrow and starts doing things that many would deem irresponsible, you would claim he is immature too? dayo--you cannot be intelligent this minute and be immature in the same instance. as at when george was described as intelligent with an intelligence quotient of 158, he wasn't immature then!
his alcoholism led him to do the unspeakable things he did later in life and it ultimately cost him his life!

dayokanu: Even in Sports the word intelligence and mature are not similar.

An example is George best, reputed to be one of the most intelligent british footballer ever but not matured in his conduct similar to Mario Ballotelli

i want to see the article that described george best as intelligent and immature in the same breath. failure to produce it in the next couple of hours then it's safe to conclude you are a lunatic! the moment anyone is described as immature then he is not intelligent within that time frame!

so in your opinion, you think balotelli is intelligent?

dayokanu: So at what point in time are girls more intelligent than men? Just between the age of 1-10? You were the same one that claimed starting to date makes them more intelligent, Are you saying Girls taking Common Entrance date?

listen to yourself - you guys are just confused! intelligence is diverse. being book smart is different from being street smart. this is why a common area boy can outfox davidylan even with his 4.999CGPA. when I said girls get more exposed than boys, I was talking about them being more street smart. this is why none of your secondary school class mates dated you and they were running after university boys then. to them then, you were mentally inferior!

In my primary school the top 6 were guys and only one girl made into the top 10 in my sets National Common entrance result

i don't expect you to claim otherwise. i am surprised you trimmed it down to top 6. the dayokanu of 3 yrs ago would have said the top 2000 students were males!

The topic is IQ which is Intelligence measurement not a maturity Quotient.

how does this affect the price of fish? you are making a blatant error of thinking only academicians can have a high intelligence quotient! you need brain tonic!

davidylan: Maturity does not necessarily come with intelligence. Are you trying to say the 40 yr old pepper seller is not mature since she is probably too dull to learn algebra?

the word maturity is often used to describe intelligence or when an individual makes the right decisions e.g. wayne rooney has now "mature". it means rooney is now more intelligent, smarter and makes the right decisions more often than not.

a pepper seller might not be book smart but will be intelligent in other ways. at least she knows a bit of arithmetic to know the correct change to give back to her customers. she's also smart enough to be involved in a profitable venture. how is she not intelligent?

[quote author=tpia@]i actually thought it was common knowledge women overall do not have a higher IQ than men.

rather surprising to find out there are people who believe otherwise.[/quote]when a life form breastfeeds, cook, wash, get pregnant, rear children, bleed for 5 days every month and does not die as a result - it will be almost impossible for her to ace the other gender who does not have to worry about these things. let's base this study on the period when the difference between the males and the females is negligible!

[quote author=tpia@]i actually thought it was common knowledge women overall do not have a higher IQ than men.

rather surprising to find out there are people who believe otherwise.[/quote]when a life form breastfeeds, cook, wash, rear children, bleed for 5 days every month and does not die as a result - it will be almost impossible for her to ace the other gender who does not have to worry about these things. let's base this study on the period when the difference between the males and the females is negligible!

dayokanu: How can you say girls are smarter based on this argument
In Secondary school and University most women are single and without marital/family pressures

the relationships most of the girls find themselves at this level are sometimes more mentally tasking than what older women face in their marriages. i think the competition to be accepted by the boys is one of the many distractions girls often face at this level. If you study the trajectory, girls shoot up in the early childhood then suddenly stop and the boys catch up with them and later leave the girls in their wake. the question is why do girls generally stop in their teens? what could be responsible?

Yet the men excel . Take a look at UME scores, the highest marks are mostly scored by guys, Are the 16yr old girls taking UME also thinking of families?

take a look at the national common entrance exams and you will find your answer.

Girls mature emotionally faster due to their exposure to older guys but maturity is not equal to intelligence.

emotionally or mentally?

Actually most book smart and intelligent people are known to be emotional babies e.g Seun Osewa

no comment!

davidylan: Not at all. Maturity is not the same as being inteligent. There are intelligent 5 yr olds who are emotionally immature and there are very mature 40 yr old folks who could not solve a simple algebraic problem even if their lives depended on it

they go hand in hand. maturity is technically sense of responsibility which comes with wisdom, intelligence, experience and sophistication. this is why most companies would even take a 2.1 student with loads of experience over a 1st class student with zero experience. actually, being old and being mature are 2 different things. there are 50 yr-old people that are immature etc. the ability to solve algebraic equations does not prove intelligence. people are intelligent in different ways asides academic intelligence. a music composer who has never been in a math class but composes brilliant musical songs is also intelligent in his own way!

maclatunji: According to Coogar, intelligence is in the hormones. Your hypothesis is easily testable in theory, we would just need to isolate the key "hormone(s)" that have induced the "greater intelligence" in women and administer it to young boys of the same age and IQ. Let's say 20 of them in the test group and another 20 in the control group. We would then measure their intelligence after administering the "female intelligence hormones" to them and allowing it to take full effect. If they show increased IQ over our control group, Professor Cooger would become world famous as the man who forever killed the argument on who is smarter between men and women?


However, if the experiment flops what would we call you? Not to talk of the she-men we would have as by-products of the experiment. The ethical questions of such a research would be something to consider too.

What do you think Professor Coogar?

Me, I say it is pointless. How about finding a practical cure for HIV/AIDS that can work for most people with all of this abundant genius eh?

except that those hormones you wanna pump them with will make the boys grow [color=#000000]b[/color]reasts, make them menstruate, etc which would have defeated the purpose of your experiment.

davidylan: I disagree with you here. Men are generally smarter than women but women mature faster than men.

that's another argument - you are now saying women are smarter than men just before they start thinking about looking for husbands, bothering about marriage and child rearing.....and it's only when women are distracted by raising a family that the men tend to have the upper hand over them.

in a nutshell, at teenage level - girls are smarter than boys but when you look beyond that, men later catch up and even overtake the women. i can accept that as an argument cos I know girls are generally smarter in the formative years than boys!

maclatunji: Key word there is "recorded", then again what about the distribution of intelligence. It is funny that you seek to be categorical with your position. However, if it was so certain, researchers wouldn't be spending millions of dollars every year trying to find a definitive answer to the question.

the researchers spending millions everyday trying to look for answers do so cos they do not want to accept what's already researched by their predecessors. distribution of intelligence is a different case entirely......various factors can contribute to any individual having a low/high intelligence quotient.

Let's put things in perspective here, the only reason we have a difference in terms of gender is because of reproduction. Intelligence can exist at the highest levels in both sexes, so it is quite futile to me to seek to promote one gender as being more intelligent than the other. It is that simple, if you disagree, good luck with it. I am not interested in a never-ending-argument with you.

the difference in gender is because of the chromosomes that constitute both sexes. after that, you look at the differences in the hormone levels of the male child in comparison to the female child. intelligence can surely exist at the highest level in both sexes but because of the hormone composition of the females, they are generally better than their male counterparts!

maclatunji: Going by your argument, you are more intelligent than every woman that has ever walked the face of the planet. Is that really what you are saying?

that's not what i am saying.....i am saying girls are generally smarter than their male counterparts if the playing field is even. in a nutshell, the smartest woman in the world would outwit the smartest man in the world! it's not even debatable. after all, a woman still holds the highest intelligence quotient ever recorded on the planet: marilyn vos savant!

maclatunji: @Fellis has taken the words out of my mouth, intelligence is not dependent on gender.

strength is not also dependent on gender, right? how some of you bagged your degrees should be questioned!

[quote author=tpia@]men are too easily distracted, but that has nothing to do with intelligence, just XY chromosome.

btw, folks here seem to be referring to relationships, while I am referring to IQ.[/quote]they are easily distracted because of their shorter attention span. girls are more attentive
with the mental capacity to remain focused. it has everything to do with intelligence. it is when boys stop grasping what they are being taught that they become bored and distracted!.

[quote author=tpia@]my teen years were actually when i discovered girls are not smarter than boys.[/quote]girls are way smarter...they get to be told the lessons of life far earlier than the boys of the same age. while they are reading novels that tend to broaden their horizons, the boys are still engrossed with comic books or sports magazines! the disparity is endless!

but going by what obtains on nl and the general trends these days, its quite possible your own observations are correct.

a cursory glance at the insurance paid by young drivers would also reveal boys pay more than their female counterparts. girls are generally smarter, more careful, more attentive and are less likely to take idiotic risks known to boys who wouldn't flinch to run 200mph just to feel bonz!

[quote author=tpia@]don't know about that.
are you saying being raised with girls will dumb down a boy? [/quote]when the playing field is levelled, the girls are generally smarter than their male counterparts.

i personally havent found this to be true.

this is easier to explain.
girls in their teens are smarter - they get easily exposed to the ways of the world far quicker than the boys. their suitors then are generally older whereas the boys of the same age tend to chase after girls younger than them. in a nutshell, you have 2 identical twins of opposite sex at the age of 16. the female gets chased by men in their 20s, her twin brother is busy chasing after his age mates and girls of 15 and below. who in your opinion would be more exposed?

there might be some iota of truth in the article! a girl born n bred in the same environment with a boy is usually smarter than the boy! girls are generally smarter than the boys of the same age!

StarBoard: You must be demented to think Bebe is class

you possess the brain capacity of a slug. bebe's stats as a winger is better than
what most big money strikers can boast of. if he's not class, why is he at old trafford
while you are busy tongue-cleaning the toilet seats at adamasingba sports complex!

From the above, I can safely deduce your parents were first cousins.
So you want us to assume someone is class based on 4 appearances last season?
You must be a dullar.d per excellence.

the inbred twit is outdoing himself. were you not a product of your father and his
first daughter? you don't have enough wisdom.....the tool that gives coogar the most
resistance sinks the quickest - its simple physics. the harder you try, the more grief you
get - you pube smoking vagrant!

StarBoard: Funny the original spin-doctor claims he knows what the "truth" is. . .

yes....i spew the truth at all times. i have never had to eat back my vomitus like you always do when analysing players - you often let your senses get beclouded by your myopia, acute idiocy and your intransigence to score cheap brownie points.

Mr, Truth telling his own version In half as usual.
What happened to the other half of the season?
If your brain hadn't been so flat as to need charging from the outlet of a transformer, you would remember that your "class" act was thrown out for disciplinary reasons.
Apparently youre still operating from 5 time zones behind GMT, so I can understand the lag in story-telling.Maybe I should wait for 5 hours before I get part two of the Bebe story.

It's now set in stone that rational thinking is impossible when the topic being discussed is centred around united players. A season is 9 months not 12 like you opined and bebe did not kick a ball for 7 months while at besiktas thus limiting him to just 4 sub appearances.

so i ask - how many goals is expected from a winger who made just 4 appearances in one season? 30? 40?
i reiterate....you are a schlepper and your lines are pitiful and a qualified general practitioner needs to drip your thalamus with blood tonic.

chic2pimp: Ibime and his love for Lampard.

Mention Lampard's name and bam he springs out of his hiding place abi nah Hole.

To be fair to him though over the last 10 years or so, only Xavi has performed better on a more consistent basis from the Central Midfield Position(with regards to Club side).

over the last 10 yrs? only xavi? if its about the number of appearances then lampard is the most durable player ever but in terms of top quality performances in the last 10 yrs then lampard wouldn't even be in the top ten midfielders in europe!

StarBoard: Bros, welcome o.
Your answer was as predictable as that earthworm 1025's rants.

that's what the "truth" does: predictable, pure, consistent, unerring, accurate, precise, spot-on!

Really?You believe the above?
Bebe's class didn't shine while on loan away.Why don't you post his stats while on loan?

if you had money to afford attention then you would know bebe damage his cruciates that kept him out for six months at the start of his loan! in that regard, bebe has no stats to work with while on loan!

you need "brain-tonic"!!!!