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Dtruthspeaker:
Ehen you don talk True!

E remain your former brother in self deceit MaxinDHouse and other jws to stop lying themselves.

Come on out and fly your true colours!

Plus you think the rich man in the Lazarus case did not have such a plan to make hell comfortable?

Your not following the thread totally.

Dtruthspeaker:
Still deceiving yourself yet again, for you are now deceiving yourself with kill which brings death ONLY ON EARTH, FORGETTING THAT DEATH TOO WILL BE WITH YOU CRYING ITS OWN CRY!

chai! You can lie to yourself Africa Size Lie.

Revelation 20:14 NLT
[14]Then death and the grave (hell) were thrown into the lake of fire. This lake of fire is the second death.
So death and hell or grave is something that can cry and feel pain abi?

Death is abstract na. It can't burn in a literal fire.

You'll keep reading and won't understand untill put away your pride and study with the JWs.

Revelation 21:4
[4]He will wipe every tear from their eyes, and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain. All these things are gone forever.”
1 Corinthians 15:26
[26]And the last enemy to be destroyed is death.

You see for yourself now that what revelation 20:14 means is that death will be destroyed.
Lake of fire symbolises eternal destruction.
In conclusion, death and grave/hell will cease to exist, they will be more.

achorladey:
Did you see me teach you God is three persons?

Pls follow discussion abeg.

So what have you been teaching on nairaland?

achorladey:
When you read, understand what you read and learn. Get to understand what the person you are discussing with is passing across. Now read this slowly and learn as I rephrase the above Post of yours



Apostle Paul also carry the scriptures and support his teachings using the scriptures

See what the beroeans did.....Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.


As it applies to the religious organisation you belong


The Jehovah's witnesses also carry the Bible and even support their pagan doctrines with the Bible.

Cornelboy, what are you expected to do?



Who draw people to himself so that they know the truth?



Good for you.

Like now the truth I personally see from the Bible about the person of God is that:He's one single person and he's the Father Jehovah . Deuteronomy 6:4, Ephesians 4:6, 1 Corinthians 8:5&6, John 17:3.

Is that not the truth about God?

Do you think God is three persons?

achorladey:
I know you carry a Bible. Check the pure teaching of the apostle there. That is the reason why Paul wrote the account in Ephesians 4.

That was what the beroeans did. When Paul preached to them, they were examining the teachings of Paul using the Bible. They didn't la cram la pour it into their brains because it is APOSTLE PAUL that is talking, after all he was hand picked by Jesus Christ to become an apostle

We have much to say about this, but it is hard to make it clear to you because you no longer try to understand. In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not solid food! Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. 14 But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.



Since you know the HEAD is Jesus Christ, listen and follow what the head says. When other part of the body asked you to do something or teach something, examine and cross examine it with what the head says.




All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

It is not the religious organisation set up by men that is USEFUL or as it were INSPIRED for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training

The Catholics also carry the Bible and even support their pagan doctrines with the Bible.

How can an individual know the truth?
Can an individual stand to be the body of Christ?

Like now the truth I personally see from the Bible about the person of God is that:
He's one single person and he's the Father Jehovah . Deuteronomy 6:4, Ephesians 4:6, 1 Corinthians 8:5&6, John 17:3.

Is that not the truth about God?

Jesus is a God that has another superior GOD.
John 20:17.

achorladey:
Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.

Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ.

From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.

How can we achieve that since the Bible clearly teaches that the church is the body of Christ and Christ is the head?

If religious organizations are teaching their own teachings, what is the pure doctrines of the apostles gangan?

What's the difference?
Both man and animal depends on oxygen, food, water etc to survive.
Both have similar organs that carry out some important functions in the body.
Both man and animal die and return to the dust.

Adam was created to dominate everything for eternity. But he sinned and died just like any animal would die and decay.

If a wicked or a sinful person die, he remains dead forever in his grave.

achorladey:
Baba it is not until you reach school that all this exist. Sometimes our eyes see what we want to see. Even before going to school had you taken your time to look well you would have seen the confusion and conflicts that exist within the system.


Men will always interpret the scripture to suit the religious organisation they set up in order for it to survive.

So what should we do ?
We can't just keep following the doctrines of men na?

KaluwisxPRO:
and so what? this is a public forum wether you created a useless topic means nothing when your intention is to spread false information with no basis.

Raise the dead righteous indeed, in what earth? To do what? As dead spirits with what direction? To continue worshiping who for the rest of your life?

My friend just keep quiet and say what you know

Check my posts in the thread. I have said what I know already.

KaluwisxPRO:
My friend just keep quiet and say what you know

Sorry I'm the creator of this thread.
Peace bro!

KaluwisxPRO:
So you mean after you die, you go to hell and get burnt by fire? Because of what exactly?

If you truly believe you were created by the same person who put you in hell fire, then what was the purpose of your creation? For you to be in this world to do the will of someone else and if you do not he puts you in hell fire?
Sounds like a master and slave relationship to me.

That's it. Religion portrays the true GOD as wicked. In contrast, God is love, he would never do that.

mariovito:
Nah mahn, not going down that warren anymore.

Okay..
Do you know you can live on earth forever?

You see, if the Roman Catholics which are obviously the mother of all churches didn't distort Bible truth and spoil pure worship, you wouldn't have been skeptical about religion when you were a kid.

Give it a try, come study the Bible with us. It's worth it. You'll see the difference.

For example, hell is not real, it was invented by Roman Catholics religion.
God is just one single person not a mystery trinity.

Kobojunkie:
Where do you get this idea that unbearable pain is that which turns fatal?

Have you ever visited a hospital before to see patients living with what many, even they themselves, refer to as unbearable pain to may ask how long they had to live that way with death nowhere in sight and euthanasia not an option available to them?.

If people would burn in hell forever, it would definitely be an endurable pain in immortality and eternal life.

CoronaVirusPro:
The bible tells us the dead and the living have nothing in common.

You will be going to garden of Eden to eat fruits and drink water till rapture comes.

No Ogbono, Egusi, palm wine, banga, white soup
No palm-wine, Hennessy, champagne or whisky
No goat meat, cow-tail or cat-fish pepper-soup.

Most of all, No sex, peniss will just be there for nothing sake.

Enjoy life please! Heaven cannot offer more than what's on Earth

See bro. The garden and earth was on this earth. God created the first man to dominate. He sinnec an brough death to all of us.

In death, we'll be unconscious, no activities. But God will later raise the righteous up to live forever on this same earth (regenerated earth). The difference is that, there won't be any form of evil in the new earth and God will rule it directly. Everyone will live in eternal peace. Everyone will have abundance of food, good shelter etc.

mariovito:
Oh, no, I'm not JW.

And thanks for your offer, but I'll have to decline. I'm no longer religious. I'm nonbeliever at the moment.

Don't be religious just come know the TRUTH.

Suspect1:
noise indeed.

Your also making noise.

Kobojunkie:
According to collinsdictionary.com, see below.

So, can you now explain how it you arrived at your previous conclusion??

that you feel unable to accept it or deal with it.

What happens when you couldn't deal with it?
It becomes do overwhelming that it turns to something more fatal.

Kobojunkie:
How did you reach the above conclusion?

Check the dictionary of unendurable and unbearable.

Kobojunkie:
1. After exactly how long, Dr cornelboy? Some of them have been writhing in pain for many many years, so how much longer before they die?,

So how bearable do you consider their kind of pain?

2. You still haven't explain exactly how the Lord is the strength of those who have to live in anguish, without ability to die or collapse nor sleep for eternity?

If the pain is unbearable, they won't be burning forever in eternal life.

SSIPON:
You still haven't answered the question. Is Jesus God or not? The concept of trinity is believed by most Christians. If Jesus is not God then what is He? An angel? A spirit?

A Spirit, angel and man could be God.
The Father who is the one God is a spirit. So does Jesus His son.
God made some men gods on earth.

Kobojunkie:
1. Please explain how undoubtedly logical it is to believe eternal torment bearable?

2. I don't know what reality you refer to but I have seem patients who pretty much collapse from the painful torment of their existence only to have to wake up moments later to continue screaming in anguish. So, you will need to please explain how you consider a case such as the above bearable since the patient collapse rather give up the ghost.

If the patient didn't recover and continued to languish in pain, he would definitely give up the ghost. It would come to a point he wouldn't be able to bear.

But for hell fire just be there burning for eternity, they lord is your strength.

mariovito:
I've always been skeptical as a kid.

But actively denounced the white man religion in 2014.

As an Anglican kid, I was confused when I get to school and find my other mates who are also Christians wearing rosaries, scapula, chaplets and all but I didn't wear one or needed to one.

That was where the confusion started.

Sorry for that.
Are you still in confusion and you want to JWs to assist you? They can help you see the TRUTH about God, life and the Bible.

I first thought you were one the Jehovah witnesses

CoronaVirusPro:
Better enjoy your life

Their is no cat-fish pepper-soup and beer in death o. No cigarettes and fine ladies. Everybody be wearing white garment that you wont even see ass and boobs.

I'm actually preparing myself to enjoy life forever.
Like even if I die now, I won't die forever. God will remember me and raise me from the dead and will live on earth forever under Jesus's direct rulership/government!

blazingblender:
Wait before
Where you a Christian??
Truely if the trumpet would sound
All of us will be heading straight to hell

If Jesus came today, the wicked would be judged and sent to Gehenna not "hell fire".
While the righteous will live forever on earth under Jesus's direct rule..

mariovito:
I admire your pragmatic approach.

Thanks bro.
How long have you been in the TRUTH?

Ammishaddai:
You have an idea of what you wish for yourself . But try putting your hand in fire for 5 seconds and see if you can endure it.

Religion invented hell bro.
The reward for sinners is eternal death (they will cease to exist) not eternal life in hell.

So if sinners and wicked people went to hell burning in fire for eternity, two things happen:
1. They have eternal life
2. They will be/are able to bear the pain for the eternity.

You wanna study the Bible with the JWs?

Suspect1:
useless noise! I ever read.

Eternal life is eternal life Baba!

Kobojunkie:
Please start by explaining to us the following:

1. Where do you get the idea from that the pain will be bearable?
2. Where do you get the idea from that you will have power yo endure the pain and suffering in eternal damnation?,

If the pain and torment will be forever, it's undoubtedly logical to say it's bearable and that God is the one that made it so. What do you think?
Cos in reality, when pain becomes too much, unbearable, it would kill. Since that won't happen in hell, definitely I will have my eternal life in a bearable torment.

Eternal life is eternal life

If indeed wicked people and sinners will go to hell i.e have eternal life but in bearable pain, then there's no reason for me to forfeit the enjoyments of this life for some life in heaven.

After all, if I started doing contrary to God's will, I will still eternal life plus power to endure the pain and suffering in hell fire forever. I'll also be immortal!

Dtruthspeaker:
SEE FRAUD!

I HAVE BEEN SAYING LEVITICUS 6:12/13 BUT NOW BECAUSE YOU CAN NOT ANSWER, YOU HAVE CHANGED IT TO LEVITICUS 6:9-13 THAT IS NOT IN ISSUE AS PROVEN BELOW BY YOUR EARLIER POST.



SO, ON TOP SELF DECEIT, IS THE ACT OF FRAUD AND LYING. THE NEXT BUS STOP IS STEALING.

SEE HOW DIFFERENT BOTH SCRIPTURES YOU POSTED ARE BECAUSE OF YOUR INTENTION TO DO FRAUD!

SO WHEN JW ARE EXACTLY LIARS AND SELF DECEIVERS LIKE THEIR ATHEISTS BROTHERS, HOW CAN YOU PEOPLE EVER ACCEPT HELLFIRE? AFTER ALL, THEY ARE BOTH FAT FOR THAT FIRE!

NO ROAD, JW BOY! NO ROAD AT ALL!

Dummy

Dtruthspeaker:
Everyone knows the Lazarus who was connected to a certain person in the hell, who shows that hell is a very very bad place to be.

AND TO REMEMBER THAT THE SAME STORY SHOWS THAT ABRAHAM AND LAZARUS ARE NOT IN HELL, AS YOU AND YOUR GROUP HAD BEEN TRYING TO SAY.

SO, SEE, BY YOUR OWN DOING, YOUR OWN LIE HAS BEEN BROKEN TO PIECES!

NO ROAD!

If wicked people will also have eternal life, I think it's time for me to go do money rituals.