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PoliteActivist:Where's the spiritual, have you been there? Jesus returned to who? John 20:17 How many Gods are in heaven now? What did Jesus mean when he said the Father is the one true God? John 17:3 The Bible teaches that God and Jesus are two distinct beings. John 17:18,24 [18]Just as you sent me into the world, I am sending them into the world. [24]Father, I want these whom you have given me to be with me where I am. Then they can see all the glory you gave me because you loved me even before the world began! |
Better you took it back! And all of those you mentioned above are Prophets in Islam. God sent Angels to Lot and yet He's not a prophet right?God sent angels to many people, it's not because they are prophets. Angel was sent to Mary for example, she wasn't a prophet And Jacob that fought God was not a Prophet in your Bible? Seems your knowledge is really deficient.It's your know that's been tampered with your your Koran. And if your knowledge isn't deficient, at this your age, you wouldn't tell me the rabb means God in Arabic. Na Christians dey preach miracles! Most Prophets do have their miracles! Google it as i said.I didn't see no miracles. Our Islamic Shariah is in the Qur'an and Sunnah. Fornication is to lashes as stoning is to Adultery!What's the difference between the two ![]() Can you show me where the stoning is in the Koran? Stop the diversion! [b]The Question was why did Jesus stop people from stoning the adulterous woman according to the law when he commands people to obey the lawThat's what God commanded him to do. He brought the message about love. Where did Jesus say he brought a new covenant in the Bible? [b]He said he did not come to abolish the law but to fulfil it. Mat 5:17What did you understand by fulfill it? So he didn't come to stone sinner to death but save then and make salvation available for all nationsWould you like to be stoned to death if you sinned? That means he never fulfilled the law and he was a liar!What is your understanding of "came to fulfill it"? Angels are Jinn and demon! Stop this. I am trying not to call you a liar but you keep forcing me. Angels are made from light while Jinns are made from Smokeless fire! There make-up is different. An Angel cannot be a Jinn and vice versa. Apart from humans, we only have Jinn and Angels.Angels are made from light while jinns from smokeless fire and it made sense to you? Just stick to your Koran. No bible verse clearly states all this. Angels are not born by humans! Why does Jehovah have to send an Angel to be born by a human? Did Jesus ever say he was an angel?Did God ever promised the Messiah? Did he fufil His promise? If Jesus was a normal person, why wasn't he born like your prophet Mohammed and other biblical prophet? Jesus did said he was from heaven. He came from the Father. He was sent to earth. He received words directly from God. But stick to your Koran. If their was a need then why did Jesus forgot to write it? Is it not his duty?Did he write any book? He's the way the truth and the life. The Qur'an is a confirmation of what came before it and what is to come. The benefit is to worship the creator alone and not his creation born by his creation! The emphasis is to submit totally to the will of Allah (as Muslim)Is that what benefits means? Okay what are the benefits of accepting Islam as a religion personally? From the highlighted above, it means anyone could be Muslims without accepting Islam as a religion inasmuch they are worship the one true God Jehovah. Moses submitted to God, he was automatically a Muslim. He also brought a way of worshipping God, God gave the Israelites through him. I'm a happy Muslim ![]() No new religion. The only religion with Allah is Islam not Jehovah witness or Christianity! Most Christians scholars know that the books were not preserved like the Qur'an.Yeah allah is your God and you actually made sense by saying only Islam is from him. Don't mix your delusion caused by your Koran with reality, Jesus was born a Jew and the Jews had their religion, a way of worshipping God. Jesus was a Muslim as he submitted to the will of AllahJesus knew no Allah but he definitely submitted to his God Jehovah. . How did Jehovah gave birth to him? Did He sleep with Mary since you said Jehovah was his father and i know Mary was his mother?Mary conceived after the holy spirit (God's power) overshadowed her. The prophecy that he would be born of a virgin was fulfilled. God slept with Mary through the holy spirit. I think that's what you want to hear. You don't believe God can do miracles. Noah, Abraham, Jesus, Solomon, Moses, David and other Prophets were Muslims in the Qur'an. All of them were of the foremost Muslims of their time.Yeah Muslim means submitter. These people submitted to their powerful and living God. Was Christianity/Christian mentioned as a religion by Jesus? Church as used today was not mentioned. Everything in Christianity was actually coined by men! The Jehovah witness was coined by its founder Russell Charles Taze!Jesus promised that he will establish his church and the gate of hell will not prevail against it. Christianity is named after follower of Christ ![]() Can you give us authentic evidence for this claim? We have the killings done by Jehovah trying to force people to follow Him in the Old TestamentGod of Israel needed to establish his nation and opposing nations were destroyed. Jesus messages was spread on love, through just preaching and manifestation of God's power... No be go give you authentic lol. "Kill the unbelievers anywhere you find them"...is that familiar? The Christianity i know spread with force. The will force you to join them by fire by force. If you don't join them you won't get education. You must even change your name. Even in the hospitals, you see them forcing helpless people to accept Jesus for them to be cured.Lol eyah. All these your story story story ehn lol How did Mohammed get into Mecca back? How did both religion spread initially? Which one has the almighty God's hand in it? The Paul that Jesus didn't appoint when he was alive. Who knows what blinded him on his way to Damascus that made him write 14 Books of the Bible even more than all the remaining 11 disciples of Jesus. I think Paul proved Jesus made a mistake in his selection of the 12 disciples.What are you saying bobo Paul was a righteous man unlike your prophet he stayed unmarried and even advice us to stay unmarried. Your prophet no get self control reach there lol. He was not bloody unlike you prophet. He was filled with the holy spirit just like Jesus and did many miracles like raising the dead etc Jehovah God is really great. As a human he married wives no doubt. Do you pray not to get married? And the Hadith of the Allah marrying Mary to the Prophet is not even authentic as far as i know. You just choose to fill your head with unreliable reports which you can't even substantiate. Did Muhammad fight unbelievers or they fought him? Did Jesus leave Israel for him to be send to the world?Like Allah your God actually gave him vere to marry Zainab after like 10 wives already, unbelievable. Wetin person dé find for many wife wey e no fit get for one or four sef and standardized in Islam? It's your choice bro. I may choose to remain unmarried. The highlighted is a stupid question tbh. How did the alleged seal of the prophet enter Mecca back? Jesus taught his disciples not to carry sword and fight but love their enemy and pray for them and be at peace with all men. All your arguments are just baseless and points back to you!Frustrated fellow (Ff) I have checked the content well. Islam is the religion of peace. Christianity is not a religion but what was formed by men!Only if you know what peace means ![]() What's in the Koran that's already not in the Bible? What does your religion offer you? Is the Bible not enough for guidance? [quote author=AntiChristian post=111083353][/quote] |
AntiChristian:Is the story not true? Are the references false? Being the authentic one na |
AntiChristian:I did that already it's your responsibility to refute it by bringing the authentic hadiths or whatever |
PoliteActivist:God have him all authority God gave him an excellent name God made him both lord and Messiah Jesus himself said Jehovah God is the one true God He said the Father is greater than him. He did what the Father commanded him In the future he will eventually hand over the kingdom to God God said He's alone no one besides Him God never said he's sending himself. Jesus was referred to as son of God throughout to the four gospels. What else do you need? Are these all contradictions? |
PoliteActivist:Give us the verse that says Jesus is God the son or says he's the true God, can you? When you look the Bible from all angles, it crystal clear that God the Father is the only person that's God. Jesus got everything he has from his Father. Jesus only claimed to be the Christ, son of the living God. |
Resurrected Man is flesh and bone with power as Jesus proved to His disciplesJesus contradicted himself when he said flesh and blood can't enter the kingdom of heaven Abi? Jesus was indisputably transformed to spirit being when ascending into heaven. Besides, that verse is talking about this present sinful nature of ours, if not it'll also contradict JWs doctrine of living forever on paradise earth.Only the little flock are going to be with Jesus in his kingdom. The rest of the righteous one will live forever on. Abi God's kingdom won't extend to paradise earth again?God's kingdom will of course come to restore peace to earth. It will defeat human imperfect government and fufil the will of JEHOVAH for earth. Where did you read it from that He lost the equality?Is Jesus everything he's naturally or God made him to be so? Where did he get the authority he has? Who gave him his great name? Can the son be greater than the Father? Who appointed him to be the Messiah? If Jesus didn't humble himself and claimed equality then he wouldn't be where he's today. But the perfect Jesus humbled himself because he aware everything he got today was from the Father ![]() Jesus will never misbehave like Satan the devil did or any other imperfect humans. Let me just drop this one firstOkay I have to bring in different translations so that you can fully understand what that verse is talking about.Thanks This question should have been directed to you JWs that claimed, Jehovah killed his son in heaven and created another being that later became the killed Son.JWs don't believe anything not based on the Bible. Wait where did you get this? Is it some kind of myth? You won't understand this now until we go further on this thread.Alright I'm willing to understand ![]() Emusan: |
AntiChristian:This is you stake not mine. Ain't a Muslim. |
PoliteActivist:I don't have time arguing with you. It's pointless. Cos you have already proven that the Bible is full of contradictions. You can't prove that the Bible is contradiction and still go ahead to prove that only you opinion is valid, is the truth, no! Mind you "God the son" "Godhead", "trinity" ain't biblical terms, they were invented by men. |
AntiChristian:The narration I gave, is it valid? Are the references valid? |
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PoliteActivist:I won't talk about the contradiction until you respond to my comments. |
MaxInDHouse:I actually put up a good honest fight with that JW mam from new Zealand on trinity but my eyes were opened and everything made sense when I realized from the Bible that God the Father is the only true God, no one besides Him Deuteronomy 6:4 |
PoliteActivist:Do you remember what John said in revelation about those that add to God's word? No where in the Bible you would see "God the son" you will only see "God the Father". Why? Because the Father us the only through God. John 17:3 [3]And this is the way to have eternal life—to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth. 1 Corinthians 8:5-6 [5]There may be so-called gods both in heaven and on earth, and some people actually worship many gods and many lords. [6]But for us, There is one God, the Father, by whom all things were created, and for whom we live. And there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created, and through whom we live. The words of God don't contradicts each other. You still have a lot to learn. |
PoliteActivist:Lol. What are you talking about ![]() What bout what Peter said in acts of the apostles? John 14:28 [28]Remember what I told you: I am going away, but I will come back to you again. If you really loved me, you would be happy that I am going to the Father, who is greater than I am. John 12:49 [49]I[b] don’t speak on my own authority. The Father who sent me has commanded me what to say and how to say it.[/b] |
PoliteActivist:We know and believe Jesus is the promised Messiah. He's a mighty God isaiah 9:6 He did miracles through God's holy spirit but never claimed he was God. He only claimed that he is the son of the living God, the Messiah. He's not the one tue God nor equal to God the Father. |
PoliteActivist:Okay. Matthew 28:18 [18]Jesus came and told his disciples, “I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth. Who gave Jesus the authority? Acts of the Apostles 2:36 [36]“So let everyone in Israel know for certain that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, to be both Lord and Messiah!” Who made him lord and Messiah? Hebrews 1:4 [4]This shows that the Son is far greater than the angels, just as the name God gave him is greater than their names. Who gave Jesus the greater name? Philippians 2:9 [9]Therefore, God elevated him to the place of highest honor and gave him the name above all other names, Who elevated him and gave him the name? You know nothing bout Jesus bro ![]() |
AntiChristian:Why don't you bring the story with the authentic references if you have access to them? |
PoliteActivist:Who gave Jesus power to forgive sin? So if Jesus prayers were eventually answered and his disciples are in God just like Jesus and God are in each other, does it mean that the disciples are now part of Godhead? Did Jesus have to be in Godhead before he could be in his Father? |
Who is a Prophet and why was John not a Prophet in your own Bible?A Prophet is someone that receives message from God about event that will take place in the future. He stands as God's spokesman to His people. John indeed could be considered as a prophet but he had a specific mission. I take the highlighted back. But people like lot the cousin of Abraham, Abraham himself, Jacob, isaac, Joseph, Adam etc were not prophet. Google the miracles. He was bewitched and was cured by Allah.Just gimme ayah na or Hadith. If there were any miracles, how come I haven't heard any even from my Muslims friends. by preventing an adulterous woman from being stoned!Lol. Why did the Koran contain the ayah of stoning women caught in adultery at a time but was abrogated and replaced with a hundred lashes of cane? Jesus was the prophesied Messiah throughout the Hebrews scriptures and God promise to bring a new covenant. Jesus fulfilled the prophecies and brought the new covenant based on love and sealed by his blood. Jesus emphasized on love and showed how God the Father loves mankind. So he didn't come to stone sinner to death but save then and make salvation available for all nations. Angels in Islam can't rebel. Satan was not an Angel but a Jinn among the Angels. Jinns like humans have free will.Angels that rebelled against their creator according to the Bible are jinns and demons. Satan is an angel. The highlighted doesn't make any sense. Angels are Angels. They have no free will but only obeys the will of their Lord. Jesus was a human born by Mary a human. Angels are sent to earth by their Lord. They don't impregnate humans or get born as humans!Angels in the Bible have free wills but they obediently do the will of their creator out of love not compulsion. Our Jesus was an angel before JEHOVAH sent him as the promised Messiah and was born miraculously via virgin Mary. This question can be asked that what is in the old testament that is incomplete to warrant the new testament?The need for new testament is obvious. The old covenant was for the salvation of the Israelites while the new covenant sealed by Jesus is for the salvation of mankind. Actually, God's message has been destined to be completed by Muhammad not Jesus.What's in the Koran that's not already in the books before it? What are the benefits of having Islam as ones religion? How are you so sure you will be save? Muhammad was the last lap racer among the Prophets.First there's no need for any new religion from Jehovah God. My God is powerful enough to preserve His books unlike your God Allah that failed to preserve the books that came before you Koran (plagiarized from the Bible, Jewish Talmud, apocryphal books, myths etc.) If the Jews had salvation then they won't need Jesus. Ultimately Jesus was not a Christian nor Jehovah witness but a Muslim. Whoever dies without being a Muslim is doomedGod intended to save the world not just the Jews. Jesus wasn't a Muslim stop lying na ![]() Jesus was born as a Jew and Jehovah was his Father not your God. Mohammed/Zaid were the first Muslims stop the blasphemy. Where did I insult Christianity? Christianity is not even mentioned in the BibleWasn't Christ mentioned? Wasn't Christians mentioned? Wasn't church mentioned? You go school na, you should know how the word was coined. Islam was mentioned in the Koran but it was the wrong name. Islam spread through shedding of blood. I don't know how a prophet of God turned a politician and a military general at the same time. See Christianity spread through preaching and the manifestation of Jehovah's power through the holy spirit. Jesus disciples were hated and persecuted throughout their life. Paul dedicated his life to serving God and even stay unmarried, he was busy spreading the good news to the gentiles and doing great miracles. He traveled from continent to continent. What did Mohammed do? He kept marrying and marrying more wives. He said Allah will even marry him to Mary in heaven. He was sent to mankind but didn't leave Arabia. He had to fight unbeliever in order to establish Islam. Couldn't Allah do more than that? [quote author=AntiChristian post=111053958][/quote]Here is the big question: Which is the religion of peace, Islam or Christianity? Don't judge a book by it cover, you have to check its content first. |
Are they three persons in one God? |
PoliteActivist:John 17:21 [21]I pray that they will all be one, just as you and I are one—as you are in me, Father, and I am in you. And may they be in us so that the world will believe you sent me. John 20:23 [23]If you forgive anyone’s sins, they are forgiven. If you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.” I think Jesus apostles are in the God head too cos they could forgive sin and be in the Father just like Jesus. |
That was a mistake which I have already modified. Rabb is Lord and ILLAHI is God/god/Deity. The Shahaada is Laa Ilaaha illa Allah which means there is no deity/god worth of worship except Allah.You really want me to believe that after being in Islam for many years and have fully learned the Arabic language? ![]() Where did you modified it, did you qoute me and apologize for the mistake? Why would i intentionally deceive you on something that is online everywhere?This your contradicting statement is something else. So you know that it's online everywhere but still have me false information. Was that not on purpose ![]() This is another blunder from you. Allah has many names of which are Allah, Ar-Rahman, Ar-Rahim, Al-Malk, Al-Quddus, As-Salam, and many more. All these are online just type names of Allah on google.This are not even name but qualities attrubuted to your God. Jehovah is not even His name. It was translated as that some centuries ago!Just like Jesus isn't Jesus's name because it was transliterated from yesua abi Abdullah the father of your prophet worship which Allah? It's actually online everywhere that Christians and Jews before Mohammed use Allah as Arabic word for God and that doesn't mean they are serving the Muslim god. [quote author=AntiChristian post=111050955][/quote] |
AntiChristian:Your kidding right? I should bring chain of narration? lol. I have brought what I wanted to bring. It's left for you to prove that it's not authentic. I can't be doing everything for you na. |
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MaxInDHouse:Sir Wednesday is our meeting o. I need some backup ![]() |
I have been exposing the truth about the happenings in your Bible that you fail to understand.Keep up the good work ![]() How did the Bible expose that?Jesus teaching on divorce; Matthew 5:32 [32]But I say that a man who divorces his wife, unless she has been unfaithful (unchaste, adulterous), causes her to commit adultery. And anyone who marries a divorced woman also commits adultery. The story of Zaid, Zaynab and Mohammed contradicts God's divine law and teaching of Jesus. So Mohammed wasn't sent from the God of earlier prophet as he claimed. He's a false prophet! In Numbers 31:40, Jehovah got 32 virgins as His share of war booty when all the family members have been killed and only virgins were left behind.Yeah? I did ask you how virgins were detected back then which you refused to answer!Of course they had their ways but I don't know. [quote author=AntiChristian post=111018762][/quote] |
budaatum:I was in your shoe and I had to stop replying him. I named him madman |
AntiChristian:Who's the liar ![]() AntiChristian:I asked you "what is the general word for God in Arabic" Your response: Rabb!After glancing through few sites, I found out that "rabb" is thew Arabic word for lord or master What were you trying to do? You think I'm one of the gullible you can deceive? ![]() I also confirmed that allah is the primary word for god and it was used by Jews and Christians before Mohammed. And the fact that Mohammed's dad's name was Abdullah which means servant of allah, it proves that allah is not specific to the Muslims God. Apparently, Allah is not the proper name for God of the Muslims, your God doesn't have a name. Unlike the God of the Hebrews that declared His name to Moses and the children of Israel, JEHOVAH So Muslims can lie like this just like their prophet Muhammad ![]() Conclusion: Allah is a primary word for God. Small gods can be referred to as allah and the God of the Bible can also be referred to as Allah in Arabic language ![]()
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AntiChristian:You are a big liar for telling me that the general word for God is rabb. So Muslims can lie like this. Your following the footstep of your pseudo prophet. |
AntiChristian:The traditions state: Muhammad Ibn Yahya Ibn Hayyan narrated, "The Messenger of God came to Zaid Ibn Haritha's house seeking him. Perhaps the Messenger of God missed him at that time, that is why he said, 'Where is Zaid?' He went to his house seeking him and, when he did not find him, Zainab Bint Jahsh stood up to [meet] him in a house dress, but the Messenger of God turned away from her. She said, 'He is not here, Messenger of God, so please come in; my father and mother are your ransom.' The Messenger of God refused to come in. Zainab had hurried to dress herself when she heard that the Messenger of God was at her door, so she leapt in a hurry, and the Messenger of God liked her when she did that. He went away muttering something that was hardly understandable but for this sentence: 'Praise be to God who disposes the hearts.' When Zaid came back home, she told him that the Messenger of God came. Zaid asked, 'You asked him to come in, didn't you?' She replied, 'I bade him to, but he refused.' He said, 'Have you heard [him say] anything?' She answered, 'When he had turned away, I heard him say something that I could hardly understand. I heard him say, "Praise be to God who disposes the hearts." ' Zaid went out to the Messenger of God and said, 'O Messenger of God, I learned that you came to my house. Did you come in? O Messenger of God, my father and mother are your ransom. Perhaps you liked Zainab. I can leave her.' The Messenger of God said, 'Hold on to your wife.' Zaid said, 'O Messenger of God, I will leave her.' The Messenger of God said, 'Keep your wife.' So when Zaid left her, she finished her legal period after she had isolated herself from Zaid. While the Messenger of God was sitting and talking with `A´isha, he was taken in a trance, and when it lifted, he smiled and said, 'Who will go to Zainab to tell her that God wedded her to me from heaven?' The Messenger of God recited, 'Thus you told someone whom God had favoured and whom you yourself have favoured: "Hold on to your wife." '`A´isha said, 'I heard much about her beauty and, moreover, about how God wedded her from heaven, and I said, "For sure she will boast over this with us." ' Salama, the slave of the Messenger of God, hurried to tell her about that. She gave her some silver jewelry that she was wearing." (Ibn Sa`d, al-Tabaqat al-Kubra 9 vols. [Beirut: Dar Sader, n.d. `Iyad, al-Qadi. al-Shifa fi sifat al-Mustafa. Beirut, 1980], vol. 8, pp. 101-102; Muhammad Ibn Jarir al-Tabari, Jami`al-bayan `an ta´wil al-Qur´an [Annals of al-Tabari], Edited by Mahmud Muhammad Shakir. 30 vols [Cairo, 1968], vol. 2, p. 452ff.) And: "He had occasion to visit the house of Zaid, and upon seeing Zainab's unveiled face, had exclaimed, as a Moslem would say at the present day when admiring a beautiful picture or statue, Praise be to God, the ruler of hearts! The words, uttered in natural admiration, were often repeated by Zainab to her husband to show how even the Prophet praised her beauty, and naturally added to his displeasure." (Syed Ameer Ali, The Spirit of Islam [Chatto and Windus. London, England. 1974 (1890)], p. 235; |
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