Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 2:29pm On Feb 07, 2022 |
Lol you can't quote the bible but you can quote trinitarians lol.  Trinitarians made God a mystery not the Bible. God the Father is the one true God there's. I Corinthians 8:6 I'm a physical body and the spirit or breath of God gives me life, without it I'm dead. Note that it's when God breath into Adam's lifeless body that he became a living " soul". fattprince: Well I can't quote bible but what I believe in Trinity is that it is a mystery as you have put it but just know that God is like you that's why they said we are created in His image. You consist of Body, soul which can also be called mind and spirit. Your body, is the container your soul is the actions, words you do while your spirit is operating on another dimension. So God the father is like the soul, the words and actions, Jesus Christ is the body, soul becoming a physical entity and Holy spirit is the spirit. Ruling the spiritual realm which is another dimension.
A saint was thinking about how to understand the Trinity one day and as he was meditating on a beach he came across a boy that was filling a small hole he has dug by the beach from the beach water. The saint asked him what he was doing, the boy replied by telling him he wants to empty the ocean into the hole. The saint told him it was impossible, that he can't empty the ocean talk more of it containing the hole. The boy replied him that same way he can't understand the trinity with his small physical mind. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 2:19pm On Feb 07, 2022 |
tctrills: I think I understand what you are trying to say,
I don't think you really do You believe that the father is the only savior.
Yes according to Isaiah 43:11 That Jesus Christ is not really the Savior but just someone used by the Savior so it's wrong to call him our Savior? Is this your point?
I know your aim was to prove that the the Father, YHWH is Jesus. It didn't go like that, you get?
Just the same way Paul acknowledged that there are many Gods and Lords in heaven and earth but the Father is the one God for christians, is the same way there are many saviors but God the Father is the SAVIOR.
He saves through others.
Obadiah 1:21 21 And saviours shall come up on bmount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; Na you quote this na stop fooling around. Pls is your name Okpoko? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(op): 1:58pm On Feb 07, 2022 |
Do you have a religion? diridiri: All Christians are wrong about most things, so yes. They will quote Leviticus 17:10, but they will not quote the passage in the bible that says you should stone a woman to death if she does not scream loudly enough while getting raped (Deuteronomy 22:23-24) or the one that says you should stone disobedient children to death, and so on and so forth.
I don't care what idiotic jargon they believe in though, as long as they stop knocking on my door on Saturday mornings while I'm trying to sleep. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 6:31am On Feb 07, 2022 |
 That is why I ask who the Father is repeatedly. It shouldn't take a separate thread for him to tell me. Lol, he didn't know that I've grown pass that  Few years ago i was confused about many things in the Bible. Today every truth I know from the Bible conforms together, no contradictions. MaxInDHouse: FUN CATCHING connotes NO SERIOUSNESS IN FAITH, everyone can hold unto his or her opinion without thinking any is unique. That's his goal
So he is fighting against your faith that is said to be the only channel to the true God. Once you agree with him that your fellow believers are simply robotic to have held such opinion he will take his leave.
Just agree with him that anyone can believe whatever they like in Jesus name, then he will call you his 'brother' and carry your comment to other JWs anywhere he finds them to show them what their fellow believer said about the Faith!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 9:45pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 8:59pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
God is the Savior and He chooses the means through which he saves. You are the one that have different versions of God. tctrills: Isaiah says you have only one Saviour Is Jesus your Saviour or not? The Father is the one God for us! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 8:55pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
You don't know me , do you? tctrills: No I was in your shoes a long tome ago. I have grown since then |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 8:29pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
tctrills: Not really. But I have been in you situation before I see. You think we are the same?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 8:28pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
tctrills: I love the fact that you are overwhelmed but before you run, I would give you another example that should calm you down. How many saviors do we have? Acts 13:23 From the descendants of this man, according to promise, God has brought to Israel a Savior, Jesus.
Isaiah 43:11
I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
Obadiah 1:21 21 And saviours shall come up on bmount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the Kingdom shall be the Lord's
How many Saviours do we have? 1 Thessalonians 5:9 [9] For God chose to save us through our Lord Jesus Christ, not to pour out his anger on us. 2 Timothy 1:9 [9] For God saved us and called us to live a holy life. He did this, not because we deserved it, but because that was his plan from before the beginning of time—to show us his grace through Christ Jesus. It's about what God wills and chooses now. Me run? Never! I don't want to waste my time with you. You remember what i said yesterday? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 8:19pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
tctrills: I understand how you feel Eeyah see therapist! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(op): 8:15pm On Feb 06, 2022*. Modified: 3:02pm On Feb 07, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 8:13pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
tctrills: sir I don't get your point here. Jesus to moses to tell the children of Israel that I Am sent him. In John, he again told Israel that he is I Am. So simple. Please explain the point you are trying to make Your assumption that Jesus is Jehovah not mine  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 8:12pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
achorladey: The word "Big deal" comes from your end 
Learn. Na from you end o learn oga |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 8:11pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
Lol go give your dogma to another person not me. Paul didn't make it clear that though there are many gods but na the Father Dem know as GOD? tctrills: I told you, different verses in the bible use the Word God in different ways. It key is to understand who it is talking about. You cannot be bringing up verses and ignoring other verses. Look into all the verses. Both Jesus Christ and David refer to Man as God. They were not wrong. John 17 3 isn't wrong also neither is 1 Corinthians 8:5. In these verses, Jesus Christ was pointing us to worship the Father. Paul taught that Jesus Christ became equal to the Father. Jesus also taught be ye perfect like your Father in Heaven showing that even man can reach the level. Became equal Abi? No wahala  bye! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 8:05pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
tctrills: Actually, I just quoted word for word Lemme rephrase that with another name. "Before Abraham was, tctrills". Does it make sense to you? "Before Abraham was, YHWH". E make Sense Abi? But see how God Himself used the name.. "Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, 'I AM' hath sent me unto you."
Learn baba |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 8:00pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
achorladey: The word big deal comes from your end not mine.
Why you dey make I comot jare when you know I have freedom to sleep here. Learn to follow discussion. Na your end baba!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:58pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
tctrills: Yes, we both read it. The key is to understand when the bible is referring to the Father, the Son or even to man. Do you get it. You talk as if your the author of the Bible. How many God did the bible say we have according to Deuteronomy 6 4, 1 Corinthians 8 6, and John 17 3? 1 Corinthians 8:5 [5] There may be so-called gods both in heaven and on earth, and some people actually worship many gods and many lords. BUT[6]But for us, There is one God, the Father, by whom all things were created, and for whom we live. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:50pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
tctrills: I Am is the name of Jehovah. Exodus 3.14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. He didn't say he's the IAM. He only said before Abraham was, he already existed. He was talking bout his existence. He ain't claiming no God's name |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:48pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:45pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
achorladey: Nairaland give me the platform and airtime to do so already now. Thanks for the reminder anywhere but I have been doing that too.
Changing goalpost to SIN 
Learn to face the discussion
Na me waka come myself, na me go waka go back myself.  I don't why you make big deal out of nothing. Should my "it could not be true" turn to argument? If like sleep here. Na your wahala. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:42pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
tctrills: Nna let's clear this up then open another post. For now, we are learning that Jesup is Jehovah. All scripture point to that fact. John recorded. John 8:58 58 Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” This should clear your doubts Jesus already existed before Abraham existed, period! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:39pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
You mean your learning right? Na your mistranslations point to that tctrills: Nna let's clear this up then open another post. For now, we are learning that Jesup is Jehovah. All scripture point to that fact. John recorded. John 8:58 58 Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” This should clear your doubts |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:38pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
tctrills: I thought we agreed to discuss that when we are through with this. Who's the Father doesn't require discussion! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:37pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:34pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
tctrills: I love your use of capital red. It shows you are following. Mtcheew see you sha  Who's the Father? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:32pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
tctrills: Well the Apostle Thomas recognized Jesus as his Lord and God so did The Apostle John so clearly Paul was not saying what you think Does Jesus have a God and a Father? Is he equal to Him? Didn't God made Moses a God unto Pharaoh? Is Moses equal to God? Didn't God made Jesus both Lord and messiah? Is Jesus equal to God? Acts 2:36 Jesus is God, the Father is God, do we have two Gods not one? Who's the Father? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:25pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
tctrills: I am not getting your question here. You have an issue with the Jews? WHO'S THE FATHER!? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:19pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
tctrills: I am not sure I get you questions Are you saying psalm 82.6 is not in the bible? At different verses, different people have been called God.
You can't understand it. Maybe you should read it again The key is to understand who that passage is referring to.
Okay Most of the time in the old testament, it refers to Jesup Christ Jehovah.
Abeg no let the Jews hear about this o This is an assumption you haven't resolved cos you haven't told us who the Father is Other times it refers to our Heavenly Father. Do you understand? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:11pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
You mean the same kind of worship Yorubas render to their kings? Like bowing down to them or paying homage to them? Is that what worshipping the Father in spirit and truth all about? Learn ogbeni  tctrills: Jesus taught his followers to worship the father that is correct. His purpose is to direct us to his father. Still Jesus Chist was and is worshipped. The wise men came to worship him. The Apostles worshipped him. Mary worshipped him. All these accounts are in your bible |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:08pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
I don't understand the verse. Your funny tctrills  Paul said there many Gods (man, Jesus, stone, silver etc) but to them they have only one GOD who's the Father. Learn baba  tctrills: I Dont think you understand the verses you quoted. You should have quoted the whole thing to get understanding.can help you with it if you don't mind. 5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. Paul acknowledged that there are more than one God but he pointed us to the Godhead. He is telling us that we can't be concern with the other Gods. Hope that helps
But read also John 1.1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:02pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
achorladey: When you are told to learn to read and follow discussion. You think na child's play. Now let me assist with how people reason.....
You can as well say I'm not a person  Look at the way Emusan used his words, He is not speculating anything.
You see your use of words..... it could..... be fake. You are in essence telling Emusan what he said is either true or false. You are introducing speculations and assumptions into it.
Yes it could be true or false. Your job was to confirm what he said not unnecessary comments  Since you know you are not the Lord that gives joy why are you assuming or speculating on what the Lord has already done. Why?
Lol using emojis in comments means the lord has given you joy i laugh in Hebrew. Face discussion and learn. 
Do you face discussion and learn? 
I can decide to any emojis here and there, it doesn't have anything to do with my feelings ogbeni. I know your tactics 
When i said I've had experience on using emojis on the internet, you certainly do understand what I meant  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 6:48pm On Feb 06, 2022 |
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