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Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 2:29pm On Feb 07, 2022
Lol you can't quote the bible but you can quote trinitarians lol. grin
Trinitarians made God a mystery not the Bible.

God the Father is the one true God there's.
I Corinthians 8:6

I'm a physical body and the spirit or breath of God gives me life, without it I'm dead.

Note that it's when God breath into Adam's lifeless body that he became a living "soul".



fattprince:
Well I can't quote bible but what I believe in Trinity is that it is a mystery as you have put it but just know that God is like you that's why they said we are created in His image. You consist of Body, soul which can also be called mind and spirit. Your body, is the container your soul is the actions, words you do while your spirit is operating on another dimension. So God the father is like the soul, the words and actions, Jesus Christ is the body, soul becoming a physical entity and Holy spirit is the spirit. Ruling the spiritual realm which is another dimension.

A saint was thinking about how to understand the Trinity one day and as he was meditating on a beach he came across a boy that was filling a small hole he has dug by the beach from the beach water. The saint asked him what he was doing, the boy replied by telling him he wants to empty the ocean into the hole. The saint told him it was impossible, that he can't empty the ocean talk more of it containing the hole. The boy replied him that same way he can't understand the trinity with his small physical mind.
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 2:19pm On Feb 07, 2022
tctrills:
I think I understand what you are trying to say,

I don't think you really do
You believe that the father is the only savior.

Yes according to Isaiah 43:11
That Jesus Christ is not really the Savior but just someone used by the Savior so it's wrong to call him our Savior? Is this your point?

I know your aim was to prove that the the Father, YHWH is Jesus. It didn't go like that, you get?

Just the same way Paul acknowledged that there are many Gods and Lords in heaven and earth but the Father is the one God for christians, is the same way there are many saviors but God the Father is the SAVIOR.

He saves through others.

Obadiah 1:21
21 And saviours shall come up on bmount Zion to judge the mount of Esau;

Na you quote this na grin stop fooling around.
Pls is your name Okpoko?
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(op): 1:58pm On Feb 07, 2022
Do you have a religion?

diridiri:
All Christians are wrong about most things, so yes.
They will quote Leviticus 17:10, but they will not quote the passage in the bible that says you should stone a woman to death if she does not scream loudly enough while getting raped (Deuteronomy 22:23-24) or the one that says you should stone disobedient children to death, and so on and so forth.

I don't care what idiotic jargon they believe in though, as long as they stop knocking on my door on Saturday mornings while I'm trying to sleep.
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 6:31am On Feb 07, 2022
cheesy cheesy
That is why I ask who the Father is repeatedly.
It shouldn't take a separate thread for him to tell me.
Lol, he didn't know that I've grown pass that grin

Few years ago i was confused about many things in the Bible. Today every truth I know from the Bible conforms together, no contradictions.



MaxInDHouse:
FUN CATCHING connotes NO SERIOUSNESS IN FAITH, everyone can hold unto his or her opinion without thinking any is unique. That's his goal

So he is fighting against your faith that is said to be the only channel to the true God. Once you agree with him that your fellow believers are simply robotic to have held such opinion he will take his leave.

Just agree with him that anyone can believe whatever they like in Jesus name, then he will call you his 'brother' and carry your comment to other JWs anywhere he finds them to show them what their fellow believer said about the Faith! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 9:45pm On Feb 06, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
It's all about CATCHING SOME FUN! cheesy
But the argument will continue even while you are catching fun! wink
smiley smiley The guy is something. Why would he be catching fun with serious matter like this?
I think that's why I always feel that i waste my time arguing foolishly with him.
He actually made me go two nights without sleeping for nothing sad
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 8:59pm On Feb 06, 2022
God is the Savior and He chooses the means through which he saves.

You are the one that have different versions of God.



tctrills:
Isaiah says you have only one Saviour
Is Jesus your Saviour or not?
The Father is the one God for us!
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 8:55pm On Feb 06, 2022
You don't know me , do you?

tctrills:
No I was in your shoes a long tome ago. I have grown since then
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 8:29pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
Not really. But I have been in you situation before
I see. You think we are the same? grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 8:28pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
I love the fact that you are overwhelmed but before you run, I would give you another example that should calm you down.
How many saviors do we have?
Acts 13:23
From the descendants of this man, according to promise, God has brought to Israel a Savior, Jesus.

Isaiah 43:11

I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Obadiah 1:21
21 And saviours shall come up on bmount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the Kingdom shall be the Lord's

How many Saviours do we have?
1 Thessalonians 5:9
[9]For God chose to save us through our Lord Jesus Christ, not to pour out his anger on us.


2 Timothy 1:9
[9]For God saved us and called us to live a holy life. He did this, not because we deserved it, but because that was his plan from before the beginning of time—to show us his grace through Christ Jesus.

It's about what God wills and chooses now.

Me run? Never!

I don't want to waste my time with you. You remember what i said yesterday?
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 8:19pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
I understand how you feel
Eeyah see therapist!
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(op):
Emusan:
I said it before that this thread will be pushed to 40 pages by the lying liar whose claimed he's done with this thread .

My prediction is more accurate than that of Russell and his pagan team combine cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy grin cheesy grin
Where did you say it?

I'll have to believe that you don't know what pagan means grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 8:13pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
sir I don't get your point here. Jesus to moses to tell the children of Israel that I Am sent him. In John, he again told Israel that he is I Am. So simple.
Please explain the point you are trying to make
Your assumption that Jesus is Jehovah not mine smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 8:12pm On Feb 06, 2022
achorladey:
The word "Big deal" comes from your end grin grin

Learn.
Na from you end o learn oga
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 8:11pm On Feb 06, 2022
Lol go give your dogma to another person not me.
Paul didn't make it clear that though there are many gods but na the Father Dem know as GOD?


tctrills:
I told you, different verses in the bible use the Word God in different ways. It key is to understand who it is talking about.
You cannot be bringing up verses and ignoring other verses.
Look into all the verses.
Both Jesus Christ and David refer to Man as God. They were not wrong.
John 17 3 isn't wrong also neither is 1 Corinthians 8:5. In these verses, Jesus Christ was pointing us to worship the Father.
Paul taught that Jesus Christ became equal to the Father.
Jesus also taught be ye perfect like your Father in Heaven showing that even man can reach the level.
Became equal Abi? No wahala grin grin bye!
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 8:05pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
Actually, I just quoted word for word
Lemme rephrase that with another name.

"Before Abraham was, tctrills". Does it make sense to you?

"Before Abraham was, YHWH". E make Sense Abi?

But see how God Himself used the name..

"Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, 'I AM' hath sent me unto you."


Learn baba
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 8:00pm On Feb 06, 2022
achorladey:
The word big deal comes from your end not mine.



Why you dey make I comot jare when you know I have freedom to sleep here. Learn to follow discussion.
Na your end baba!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:58pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
Yes, we both read it. The key is to understand when the bible is referring to the Father, the Son or even to man.
Do you get it.
You talk as if your the author of the Bible.

How many God did the bible say we have according to Deuteronomy 6 4, 1 Corinthians 8 6, and John 17 3?

1 Corinthians 8:5
[5]There may be so-called gods both in heaven and on earth, and some people actually worship many gods and many lords.

BUT


[6]But for us,
There is one God, the Father,
    by whom all things were created,
    and for whom we live.
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:50pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
I Am is the name of Jehovah.
Exodus 3.14
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
He didn't say he's the IAM. He only said before Abraham was, he already existed. He was talking bout his existence.
He ain't claiming no God's name
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:48pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
Well, I can't force you to accept the bible.
The Bible calls Jesus God and tells you he was worshipped.
Yet you doubt
grin grin grin

The bible also call men Gods.
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:45pm On Feb 06, 2022
achorladey:
Nairaland give me the platform and airtime to do so already now. Thanks for the reminder anywhere but I have been doing that too.



Changing goalpost to SIN grin



Learn to face the discussion



Na me waka come myself, na me go waka go back myself. grin grin
I don't why you make big deal out of nothing.
Should my "it could not be true" turn to argument?

If like sleep here. Na your wahala.
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:42pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
Nna let's clear this up then open another post.
For now, we are learning that Jesup is Jehovah.
All scripture point to that fact.
John recorded.
John 8:58
58 Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
This should clear your doubts
Jesus already existed before Abraham existed, period!
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:39pm On Feb 06, 2022
You mean your learning right?
Na your mistranslations point to that

tctrills:
Nna let's clear this up then open another post.
For now, we are learning that Jesup is Jehovah.
All scripture point to that fact.
John recorded.
John 8:58
58 Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
This should clear your doubts
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:38pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
I thought we agreed to discuss that when we are through with this.
Who's the Father doesn't require discussion!
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:37pm On Feb 06, 2022
Just say whatever you like ogbeni kola.
So assumption and speculation don turn sin Abi grin grin

You never make assumptions for you life huh
Comot here jare

achorladey:
I don't have to go low towards name calling to prove a point grin grin



Na person dey behind the keyboard grin grin



Now he agreed to his speculations and assumptions grin grin Learn.

His statement need not confirmation in the first place which shows you are not happy that I am glad in the Lord grin grin

Here is Emusan point earlier below



But you rather join your brother in Jehovah to say it denotes SADISTIC HEART. grin grin. Where is your "it has nothing to do with my feelings" here now?

Learn.



You are not the one giving joy in the first place.



You know I do.



No one holds you back on what you want to do with the emojis and you have learnt using emojis as it concerns your feelings but your contradictions here is seen in expressing your feelings about what another person said about the emojis grin grin

So how come e no concern you again? grin grin



When did you disclose that to me? Diversion tactics
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:34pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
I love your use of capital red. It shows you are following.
Mtcheew see you sha grin

Who's the Father?
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:32pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
Well the Apostle Thomas recognized Jesus as his Lord and God so did The Apostle John so clearly Paul was not saying what you think
Does Jesus have a God and a Father? Is he equal to Him?

Didn't God made Moses a God unto Pharaoh? Is Moses equal to God?

Didn't God made Jesus both Lord and messiah? Is Jesus equal to God? Acts 2:36

Jesus is God, the Father is God, do we have two Gods not one?

Who's the Father?
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:25pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
I am not getting your question here. You have an issue with the Jews?
WHO'S THE FATHER!?
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:19pm On Feb 06, 2022
tctrills:
I am not sure I get you questions
Are you saying psalm 82.6 is not in the bible?
At different verses, different people have been called God.

You can't understand it. Maybe you should read it again
The key is to understand who that passage is referring to.

Okay
Most of the time in the old testament, it refers to Jesup Christ Jehovah.

Abeg no let the Jews hear about this o
This is an assumption you haven't resolved cos you haven't told us who the Father is
Other times it refers to our Heavenly Father. Do you understand?
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:11pm On Feb 06, 2022
You mean the same kind of worship Yorubas render to their kings? Like bowing down to them or paying homage to them?

Is that what worshipping the Father in spirit and truth all about?
Learn ogbeni grin

tctrills:
Jesus taught his followers to worship the father that is correct. His purpose is to direct us to his father. Still Jesus Chist was and is worshipped.
The wise men came to worship him.
The Apostles worshipped him.
Mary worshipped him.
All these accounts are in your bible
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:08pm On Feb 06, 2022
I don't understand the verse. Your funny tctrills grin grin
Paul said there many Gods (man, Jesus, stone, silver etc) but to them they have only one GOD who's the Father.

Learn baba grin grin



tctrills:
I Dont think you understand the verses you quoted. You should have quoted the whole thing to get understanding.can help you with it if you don't mind.
5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)

6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Paul acknowledged that there are more than one God but he pointed us to the Godhead. He is telling us that we can't be concern with the other Gods.
Hope that helps

But read also John 1.1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 7:02pm On Feb 06, 2022
achorladey:
When you are told to learn to read and follow discussion. You think na child's play. Now let me assist with how people reason.....

You can as well say I'm not a person grin
Look at the way Emusan used his words, He is not speculating anything.

You see your use of words..... it could..... be fake. You are in essence telling Emusan what he said is either true or false. You are introducing speculations and assumptions into it.

Yes it could be true or false. Your job was to confirm what he said not unnecessary comments grin
Since you know you are not the Lord that gives joy grin grin grin why are you assuming or speculating on what the Lord has already done. Why?

Lol using emojis in comments means the lord has given you joy grin i laugh in Hebrew.
Face discussion and learn. grin grin

Do you face discussion and learn? grin

I can decide to any emojis here and there, it doesn't have anything to do with my feelings ogbeni. I know your tactics wink

When i said I've had experience on using emojis on the internet, you certainly do understand what I meant grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion! Is God A Mystery Or Trinity Is False Doctrine?? by cornelboy(f): 6:48pm On Feb 06, 2022
I like the way you twisted what he said.
Your words don't change anything bout me or my feelings. cool

achorladey:
I am cornelboy spokesman you know all this while. The post you responded to has the moniker cornelboy above it. grin grin grin

Your brother in Jehovah said post with this emoji grin means SADISTIC heart. It means you have a SADISTIC HEART niyen when I saw it in your post to.

The moment I told your brother in Jehovah that he has a SADISTIC heart since he use that emoji. He backed off into something else grin grin grin

E maa fi oro won ara yin wo now grin grin

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