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achorladey:
Throughout this discussion I have repeatedly said TRINITARIANS accept and believe in God the Father despite the fact that there are two other persons in the trinity.

Do they believe Him as the bible teaches?
Where is that option, "free me make I Japa"?

The discussion is not about when trinity go end or not. You were the one thinking opening a thread to show that trinity is a false doctrine will make it dead and buried like one of your brother said. Here we are the TRINITY won't end with you. Do your own and waka pass.

When did you start reading my thoughts
My post won't make anything end but I'm finding person with a heart that yearns for the truth not apostates.

Mind you false religion will end soon when Jesus comes back with his kingdom

achorladey:
Who is your master?

tctrills:
How do you mean?

tctrills:
We learn of Jephthah in Judges 11 who sacrificed his daughter. Was it an act of righteousness or murder?

AntiChristian:
No! Ritual in this context is what is not called Yahoo Plus in Nigeria. Killing people for others to progress. This is similar to what you claim God did by sending His son to be killed for others to progress!

Jejemey:
“Alcohol can’t prevent you from making heaven, it’s medicinal” – Rev. Fr. Oluoma (See Video)

Rev. Fr. Oluoma, a Nigerian clergyman, claims that drinking alcohol is not a sin and that it will not keep anyone from reaching heaven.

See full video here
https://epasswords.com.ng/alcohol-cant-prevent-you-from-making-heaven-its-medicinal-rev-fr-oluoma-see-video/

achorladey:
You can choose to backpedal and backtrack.



Learn you no gree. You have been citing scripture up and down and it is all before you. Here it is again

For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth,+ just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 6 there is actually to us one God,+ the Father,+ from whom all things are and we for him;+ and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are+ and we through him.

When Paul call God, the Father. Is it a name or a title?

When Paul say one Lord, Jesus Christ? Is Jesus Christ is it a name or title? . You see the construction.

This would have been the best scripture for PAUL to make people know God by YHWH yet he choose the Father just like his master Jesus christ call God, Father.

Once again is Father a name?





It is kind of a name . You see how reasoning take dey be.

I never knew the Bible you carry also contains BRIGHTER GRAMMAR 1 - 6 and it teaches you proper names or nouns as it were. . Na the religious organization studying Bible with you dey play grammar with your thinking and reasoning. In the final analysis NOUNS na NAMES. Learn.



I have been speaking for cornelboy all this while. . You saw it and know yourself that there is God, the Father in the trinity and and God, the Father in the Bible of which TRINITARIANS [b]worship and love[/b]



Me I grew up in Ogun believing environment. All I hear are incantations .



You are not the only person hearing them call Jesus. You and I know in that TRINITY belief there is God the Father aka YHWH and you know they use YHWH in their worship long before those known as Jehovah’s witnesses came into existence.



In Trinity you(cornelboy) said there are two other persons apart from God the Father and I believe that should tell you TRINITARIANS still worship God the Father since the truth is that God is the Father . Abi God no be the Father again?



God the Father of which TRINITARIANS equally do except you deny the absence of God the Father in the TRINITY



I see someone backtracking. In reality you know they use it and by extension your point above means using God's name doesn't count as sign or identification of people carrying out TRUE worship. You see how the reasoning take be.

I identity my God YHWH and i worship him directly easy peasy.

TRINITARIANS identify God as the FATHER aka and worship him DIRECTLY too After all when utterance are made about the Trinity and what it means . God the FATHER comes first



To and fro of the surface of the earth



Na your palaver until ALWAYS is not ALWAYS. You go learn



In Lagbaja's voice, oro wa ti yera idea is NEED



Merry with it.



I am not in the business of name calling.



For example, the first resurrection is under way or Jesus returned in 1914 spiritually, come to Jehovah’s organization for salvation

Jehovah saves

Jesus saves

Jehovah’s organization saves. Yeah right......... THE HOLY TRINITY



God the Father used his own mouth to tell the nation of Israel so many things regarding worship of him. It still did not stop the Israelites doing what they want going after gods of surrounding nations .

No matter how strict the Roman Catholic strictly follow the commandment of YHWH, practised what you call pure worship of the early church many will still come out of the mother all churches Roman Catholic to become another religious organization called Jehovah’s witnesses and will say they are the ONLY TRUE and PUREST WORSHIPPERS of God. Face reality. Many too are coming out of what you call those practising purest form of worship aka Jehovah’s witnesses



Upon the numerous one given already OK oooo.



You saw it, you hide behind accused without telling .

Where in Malachi 3:1 did it state Russell is the messenger preparing way for Jesus spiritual return abi wetin dem call am in 1914




Why I choose is because I get freedom to choose what to belong to.

But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.




One Jason Derulo song for you titled RIDDIN SOLO . The call by Jesus to that rich man na SOLO CALL . Read many of the works of those who wrote the Bible na RIDDIN SOLO nobody in the Bible put others under compulsion to join a religious organization.



That particular one I buy for your bookshop now? You remember?



Which one is universal salvation?

achorladey:


Since the discussion started with you bring a statement of mine that I stated categorically and word for word that God means TRINITY.

achorladey:
Acholardey asked...



cornelboy responded....




You have your response then. Oga cornelboy, I didn't force you to respond to it.



My question had been what was the instruction of your master at Acts 1:8. You were dancing around it with the question above. Did your master forget that asking him to bear witness about him does not stop you from bearing witness about his father before uttering those words? Huh



When you are in a discussion with someone now according to you I know you don't need to smart. Thanks for bringing it to my notice

Janosky:
Continue DECEIVING yourself.
What has Achorladey learned from twisting?

Acts 15:14-17 & 1 Peter 4:16,by whose name did Peter identify himself?
Matthew 12:15-18, John 5:43,by whose name did Jesus Christ identify himself?
Achorladey is arguing AGAINST his own Bible.
TUEH !!!!!!

Do you Achorladey & his 3 deities Polytheists worshippers agree you are JWs?
The evidences against you plenty for Nairaland, Achorladey Deceptive clown.



Romans 10:12, This deceptive clown, did the Jews & Gentiles in Jesus days pray to Jesus as their lord who is rich toward all calling on him?

[b] Matthew 6:9,11Deceptive clown wey no dey even respect the Lord's prayer.
Matthew 6:11, Jesus dey supply your daily bread?
Achorladey you are very deceptive and wicked!
Kai !!!!![/b]

Read up Matthew 6:32, 2 Corinthians 9:8 & Romans 2:4, see as Paul and Matthew highlight your deception on this forum. .
Matthew 6:32
For the Gentiles strive after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them.

Romans 2:4
Or do you disregard the riches of His kindness, tolerance, and patience, not realizing that God's kindness leads you to repentance?

2 Corinthians 9:8
And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that in all things, at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work.

Continue your Mumu, deceptive clown

achorladey:
Na you call am twisting. Learn

I know your tactics. No be politics we de play here baba

The reason I asked you earlier who are you called by name

A. Jehovah’s witnesses

B. Jesus witnesses

Do you agree that all other Christian denominations are Jehovah’s witnesses then and by name?

How would they be JWs by name
I've asked you many times; does JWS name stop them from bearing witness of Christ? Don't they bear witness of Christ?
No de prove smart oga kola

Na the Bible verse you use yourself now. Wetin be the meaning of very

Very character of God means God Himself Abi no wahala

You dey enjoy the whinning and cruising

achorladey:
You didn't ask me who God created in his own image. I didn't answer question based on who is equal to God or not.

E kaabo baba



See how your question comes back to you below....

Did that stop them from bearing witness of God the Father YHWH (transliterated to Jehovah)?..... cornelboy., 2022

achorladey:
Learn you no learn

I SHALL PROVE TO WHAT I SHALL PROVE TO BE. THE I AM THAT I AM



They don't and many who listened to them see them as people who bear witness about the death and resurrection of Jesus christ. They see them as followers of Jesus Christ and some went as far as calling them CHRISTIANS. Peter went further by stating.........

If you are being reproached* for the name of Christ, you are happy, because the spirit of glory, yes, the spirit of God, is resting upon you.


But if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not feel ashamed, but let him keep on glorifying God while bearing this name.



When they bear witness about Jesus christ they bear witness about the VERY CHARACTER of GOD like the Bible translation you use put it.



Wetin be my score?

achorladey:
How did Jesus call God? Make I help you ask Jesus, Jesus why you dey call God Father when you know sey that one no be proper noun or name?

You do know that Father is not God's proper name. It's kind of a title.
I'll ask again what's God's name?

Backtracking is what I see from your earlier stands

Baba kola speak for yourself. You saw it yourself that the bible didn't support Trinity

Good you know the story of the transliteration of the name . The question remain do they use it and are they still using it in their worship?

I grew up in Trinity believing environment. All i hear is Jesus. Even when they use YHWH, they still think it's Jesus. Trinity is confusion, it's blinded christians from worshipping the Father in spirit and truth.

Who did Jesus and the bible said we should direct our worship to?

In your Bible teach book, it is stated knowing and using it is part of the identification of true Christians. Do TRINITARIANS use it?

Using His name doesn't even make Trinity scriptural. Learn!

You know the FATHER will cry like small baby when Jesus is worshipped

I identity my God YHWH and i worship him directly easy peasy.

You sure sey na the same Bible we dey read?

Where you get your own bible

Baba you can start learning from Quran. it seems no be the same bible we dey read

How would reading the Koran solve the problem, if we were reading different Bible?
Ọ̀rọ̀ e ti yé mi continue catching cruise

But you know TRINITARIANS of nowadays still call God the FATHER YHWH

Wow this your point has proved that Trinity is scriptural

Awon ati Eyin aso kan naa le wo

Nígbà tó jẹ́ wípé semi atheist ni ẹ́
The Truth is one

Trinity THEORY. They are not just telling it. They have repeatedly use Bible to defend their stands concerning it. It has been here with us for decades, centuries and millennium long before the existence of the religious organization you belong and beyond

If Trinity was a doctrines completely supported by the bible will there be need for this thread?
If the self acclaim mother of all churches, the Roman Catholic had strictly follow the commandments of YHWH, practised the pure act of worship of the early church, would there be need for JW today?

I believe the above applies to many of what you call God's truth in the one and only purest form of worship all over the world

Make example na
You accused someone without telling what he did

Iwe Ibile ni support ti wa

Why you choose not to belong to any christian group. Na solo you de follow play with your God? Ìyẹn náà dáa

Abi na book of Mormon you de read now, so you believe in universal salvation

Dollarremix:
You know how many people way church destroy?
Your root can never destroy you,it will only find solutions to your problems.

hales:
A man after Gods own heart !!!!

Dollarremix:
Nothing pass tradition my brother. Africans let's go back to our root.

Sammie0000:
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PastorMIsBack:
After lifting you up spiritually, they buy you beer?

achorladey:
I am not in the business of name calling

PastorMIsBack:
I know some of you would prefer the beer

Duration: 59 seconds


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVs__24tFPA

achorladey:
I am not a name manufacturer .

Rosement:
I pardon you for assuming wrongly, I'm use to your wrong assumptions already. I was so busy, I had some important things to do but good to know someone here missed me.

achorladey:
Father that is what Jesus used the most in calling God.

Father na proper noun Abi i like your tactics.

Check above. Jesus didn't address the Father as Jesus.

Wow I'm surprised he didn't

When your eyes and ears want to see and hear only what you are allowed to see and hear you will not know that they use more than YHWH in worship .

This actually is for you . I only believe what the Bible teaches not some random trinitarians doctrine.

Before the existence of the religious organization of Jehovah's Witnesses they met TRINITARIAN using YHWH. Some will even tell you what you have come to know as JEHOVAH was given to you by a CATHOLIC MONK

I know the story bout the transliteration of Jehovah's name. Same way Jesus name was transliterated.
It's a fact that trinitarians of today know little or nothing bout God the Father who's the true almighty God. They are blinded by the man made doctrine that they think God is Jesus!

Directing all their worship to the TRINITY includes the FATHER and Jesus.

Show me anywhere from the bible where it tells us to direct our worship to anything besides God the Father!

The fact is anywhere "God" is mentioned in the bible, it always refer to the Father not Trinity or Jesus!
Baba learn from the bible!

TRINITARIANS will tell you, you don't understand what it means. Be careful

Thank Jehovah it's not what the Bible tells

You are free to keep wondering

Ọmọ ìyá láwọn méjèjì. Irọ́ lórí irọ́.

TRINITARIANS will tell you TRINITY is not a false doctrine

It is, because the theory didn't conform with the Bible's teaching. When a lie is told over and over, it becomes the truth.
They can only "tell" but can't use the Bible to support their theory

Ti e ba n ja bo. E ma fori la le sa oooo

Baba àwa ò lè já bó. Bíbélì ni support wa

ifiokjohn:
agreed. I remember one quote in the Bible Micah 5:2 where God was talking about the beginning of Christ being from eternity. But GOD has never spoken about any Prophet like that. So how can someone who has always existed be just a prophet?

achorladey:
Na so we dey lost people inside discussion. UNITARIAN as used here by me is to show Janosky that he believe that God is ONE.

I haven't even said anything concerning who that ONE GOD is except him calling his ONE GOD = DOGHEAD

Learn.




When you read the above you will see how jumping on my use of unitarians is irrelevant here




And we no both UNITARIANS and TRINITARIANS you are talking about made HEAVEN with such beliefs

achorladey:
E pele ti yin sir deliberately or not deliberately



Na your own words go nail you. Here it is below....

.

You see how you dey manipulate yourself and this doctrine




Their is always a clause and I see the but . Reality tells me they love Jesus and by extension the God the FATHER. Taking the words of TRINITARIANS over the Bible still does not prevent that.




Do TRINITARIANS worship God the Father? After all na THREE persons dey this TRINITY?

ifiokjohn:
That Jesus isn't a prophet as the moslims will want us to believe

ifiokjohn:
stil, why will David call someone he has never seen before His Lord. Meaning the person is above David.

Weather it is Sarah's way of calling Abraham Lord or the one that meant Adonai. The Question remains that why will David use that word or call the Messiah who is said to be his own son Lord?