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Emusan:
Funny enough you can't do without eating blood from animals you killed. So if eating or drinking of blood is the way you interpreted it then, you're not obeying that law.

Thou my post you quoted above is how your brother internationally add his own word into God's word.

Which you never addressed

achorladey:
See person wey talk sey I no sabi pass blood . You abandoned post on your thread to look for silencer on apostate thread

What is your friend doing on an APOSTATE thread? After all he said people like you should not talk to apostates as commanded by your G. O. D aka Guardians of Our Doctrines

Emusan:
Acts 15:28-29 never limited the blood to ONLY PERSON'S BLOOD but since you know you can't do without eating blood from animals you have to add "PERSON'S BLOOD"

Dubious JWs



Russell and his pagan team



Yes! Are you obeying God's commandment?



We know you Mr continue to deceive yourself

Emusan:
Even you know that if we search your perverted NWT from now till you'll receive sense, you can't find the word "better performing group" there.

So why citing different verses where such word never existed?

Well, that's JWs abracadabra



So Jehovah can answer my prayer when I'm not JWs

Can you see how deluded you are.

Rosement:
You believe I am wrong, I believe you are wrong. Life is not hard, everybody has a right to their beliefs. So let's hold on to our beliefs because we cannot force each other. Instead of trying to change other's belief or forcing them to agree that you are the best, preach, so that those that agree with your views will accept it.

Why did the Bible say καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος and not και θεός ήταν ο λόγος.
καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος (or) kaí Theós ín o lógos - means And God was the word.
και θεός ήταν ο λόγος (or) kai theós ítan o lógos - means And a god was the word.

A determiner is a member of a class of words used to modify nouns or noun equivalents. Determiners help clarify what a noun is referring to and are typically placed before descriptive adjectives.

This is simple Greek and English translation, there is no twist to it, so assumptions are not needed. John 1:1 is lacking a determiner because a determiner is not needed to qualify the true God of Heaven but in 2 Corinthians 4:4, there is a determiner explaining that satan is only the god of this world and not of Heaven. If you want to talk about President Buhari to a stranger in Nigeria, you can just say the president without using a determiner but if you are talking about another president, in order not to mislead the stranger it is compulsory for you to use a determiner to specific.

The Bible cannot mislead us and it is very explainatory. There is no verse in the Bible were satan or any other small god was mentioned as a god singularly without using a determiner, such mistakes did not occur in the Bible. If you are not trying to backup your claims you would have understood this immediately.

This is my own view of the Bible, you don't have to accept mine because I have no right over you, in the same way you have no right over me and I don't have to accept your views also. For peace to reign, let's not try to understand each other.

sonmvayina:
Genesis chapter 1 vs 1

achorladey:
In this case the person wey asked first is not sincere . You must tag or label the person

MaxInDHouse:
They came again to Jerusalem. And as he was walking in the temple, the chief priests and the scribes and the elders came and said to him: “By what authority do you do these things? Or who gave you this authority to do these things?” Jesus said to them: “I will ask you one question. Answer me, and I will tell you by what authority I do these things. Was the baptism by John from heaven or from men? Answer me.” So they began to reason among themselves, saying: “If we say, ‘From heaven,’ he will say, ‘Why, then, did you not believe him?’ But dare we say, ‘From men’?” They were in fear of the crowd, for these all held that John had really been a prophet. So they answered Jesus: “We do not know.” Jesus said to them: “Neither am I telling you by what authority I do these things" Mark 11:27-33

Questions may raise questions so if truthfully the one who asked first is sincere then there's no reason for hide and seek.
There are thousands of sects claiming worshipers of God so if someone singled out one to be questioned then an intelligent observer will ask "do you know a better performing group?"
If you people will not attempt the simple question then there's no need asking JWs five or ten questions!

Rosement:
Thanks for being concerned but I really don't need your advice, I know how to ask the true God of Heaven for forgiveness. Remove what is in your own eyes first, you are not a Saint either, so you are no place to correct me because your corrections are of no use, you should only correct your brothers in faith.

sonmvayina:
Thus is where you are lost...

I have decided to get the new world translation of psalm 104: 29-31..

Read it and explain it how you understand it...

Thanks

sonmvayina:
You still don't get it? Do you...

We are spirt being dwelling within a physical body made from the DUST of the earth.. when the spirt leaves the body death occurs. ..the spirt is the real us. "Send forth YOUR spirt and they are created....take it and they die ..psalm 104:29-31..

It goes back to the spirt realm..spirit have no body to feel..and they are forbidden to interfere with what is going on ...on earth. God punish one of his prophet for conjuring the spirt of Samuel I guess.


Hope it is not over you.

Rosement:
Cornelboy, I understand that you are very bias but what will you do call this?

MaxInDHouse:
I think what this young woman wants is for you guys to stop quoting her not explanation of what you believe.
Because the more you explain the more it seems you're forcing your beliefs down her throat and she's not ready to accept anything from you!

Rosement:
Cornelboy, MaxInDHouse directed this message to me. What would you call this? What is the point of even covering up the truth, it is already clear to everyone that jws are criticists. Next time, before you accuse me or backup an accuser, first observe your brothers in faith and make sure they are perfect.

Rosement:
Oh, I should add articles to all the verses that claim Jesus is God in order to allow your claim make sense, the truth is I am not interested in pleasing you. I have told you severally to hold on to your believe and not pester me. There is no need for you to continue bothering me, I will continue to worship Jesus as God as long as I live.

The New Testament was majorly written in Greek. Reading online articles or dwelling on what you are told will not help, try to go on a pilgrimage to Jerusalem and you will find out a lot of new things. There is a difference between Theós (God) and énas Theós (a god).

MaxInDHouse:
Because the dead knows nothing, they can't love or hate, neither can they do anything afterwards! Ecclesiastes 9:5-6

So at death there's nothing like discovery!

MaxInDHouse:
OK

Nobody555 Rosement:
Definitely criticizing and insulting other religions, even wrongly accusing them is not bad. So you know your a human not an angel
He didn't even criticize any body or church, he only said "JWs have the purest form of worship" and that "roman Catholic influenced Christianity of today with their dogmas". And you know yourself that these are facts.

But you came shouting "don't criticize bla bla bla" and all you have been doing is criticizing, insulting and giving false accusations.

Instead of blindly accusing that they worship Satan and idols, i would rather you bring evidence.

MaxInDHouse:
i try sending you email, it says mail not sent.
dj450701@gmail.com mail me an I'll reply

Rosement:
They have been brainwashed by that ignorant bloke, Russell. Some of them don't even understand that they are serving the devil and following wrong teaching.

Rosement:
This is just your own assumption of what John 1:1. I don't agree with your view of the Bible but I have no interest in arguing with you. Peace be onto you too.

Rosement:
I don't accept Russell's version of the Bible and I don't believe his words either. Let just accept that we are both right. I am really not interested in arguing, believe whatever you want to believe, l will continue to hold on to my belief. If I am on the wrong path, Jesus will not even answer me when I address Him as God. I have got a lot of personal experience and the Holy Spirit has been working through me. Thanks again for your concern.

John1:1
New International Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

New Living Translation
In the beginning the Word already existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God.

English Standard Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Berean Study Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Berean Literal Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

King James Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

New King James Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

New American Standard Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

NASB 1995
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

NASB 1977
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Amplified Bible
In the beginning [before all time] was the Word (Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself.

Christian Standard Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

American Standard Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
In the origin The Word had been existing and That Word had been existing with God and That Word was himself God.

Contemporary English Version
In the beginning was the one who is called the Word. The Word was with God and was truly God.

Douay-Rheims Bible
IN the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

English Revised Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Good News Translation
In the beginning the Word already existed; the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
In the beginning the Word already existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God.

International Standard Version
In the beginning, the Word existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Literal Standard Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God;

NET Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was fully God.

New Heart English Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Weymouth New Testament
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

World English Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Young's Literal Translation
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God;

sonmvayina:
What of you die and discover none exist and it has always been you all along..

Kobojunkie:
I never said I don't accept the book of Hebrews. I instead don't accept the doctrines and traditions of men which Jesus Christ warned were not of Him - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13 . .

As I made clear to you what is declared in Hebrew 10 vs 9 - 15 cannot coexist with Jesus Christ's own decree in Matthew 5 vs 17 - 19 - the messages contradict each other. And since my trust is in Jesus Christ, every doctrine and tradition which stands in contradiction to His Word, I reject.

But it seems you would rather believe that which is written in Hebrews 10 vs 9 - 15 over that which Jesus Christ proclaimed, yet you avoid the questions that arise as a result of your belief. Why?

Kobojunkie:
Part of God's word, you say? But God's Word, we are told in scripture, refers to the Word out of God's Mouth and Jesus Christ is He. Your Bible is simply a collection of writings which document God's Word, the words of Satan, demons as devils along with the Opinion of men.

1. The book of Hebrews may be a book in your Bible, but I believe the author's work is meant instead as an opinion piece written of God. When God’s law of 2/3 witnesses, which requires that that every truth revealed through men to be established there must be at least 2 or 3 witnesses to same truth, is applied to what is written in it, we find that much of what is stated by the author is not backed by any witnesses in scripture. Instead a good portion of the author's ideas stands in contradiction with the Word of God Himself.

2. The Old Covenant Law/standard never gave to the High Priests, who were men drawn from the tribe of Levi, power to cancel the Law nor render it obsolete and this Law was God's agreement with the people of Israel.

Jesus Christ came as a Jew and He lived His life in complete submission to and obedience of the Old Covenant Law of Moses, in much the same way as any man would. He fulfilled the requirements of the Law as God required men to, and this by living without sin (holy), a righteous existence, and going to his death a righteous man.

In the future, the very same Jesus Christ will again return to fulfill God's end of the Old Covenant bargain when He will raise the Old Covenant righteous from the grave and grant then the promise of a long life in the land of Canaan. But so far, this part of the fulfillment is still to come.

You claim Jesus Christ is greater than the Levites and I ask again by the Old Covenant Standard set by God Himself, how is Jesus Christ greater than the Levites and the other Jews? Why set Him up for us as a High Priest, a title that belongs to the Levites?

3. Recall that Jesus Christ said, again, He did not come to abolish the Old Covenant but to fulfill it.

Where in the Old Covenant promise of a New Covenant tells us that the Messiah would cancel the Old Covenant, and explains this "once and for all" of yours?

Here's a clue! Stop regurgitating what you have swallowed from what you have read of only in the book of Hebrews, and instead find out where else in scripture the claims made are also to be found.

4. None of what I have said so far is of the doctrines and traditions of men. If you think it to be, be sure to point to it.

MaxInDHouse:
Send the number you're using for browsing to my gmail and let's see what we can both do monthly for the data!

MaxInDHouse:
You missed his point!
He never said he has the Holy Spirit rather he said he has the holy ghost
So you can't expect the fruitage of God's Holy Spirit from him, it's that of the ghost he called "holy" that will be evident in him!

MaxInDHouse:
Do you know that i often enjoy my time on this forum because it gives me the opportunity to know that only Jehovah's Witnesses are taught what is benefitial others are just languishing in self deceit! Amos 8:11
Just imagine the 144,000 that Jesus himself told John that they will become kings and priests in heaven {Revelations 20:1-6} someone just opened his mouth and said "they're just going to sing in heaven" and this same person wants to correct a global organization of competent Bible students on what the Bible really teach!

MaxInDHouse:
144,000 are going to sing in heaven;

Kobojunkie:
The verse above does not answer the question unless you are suggesting that God, in His Old Covenant, somewhere suggested that by using a High Priest, He would render obsolete the Old Law, in that case, I ask that you present this scriptural evidence for us to see.

Jesus Christ was not of the tribe of Levi and so could not have been among the Old Covenant High Priests, this as set by God Himself!

So again...1a. First, do you at least see how Hebrews 10 vs 9 - 10 and Matthew 5 vs 17 - 19 since one contradicts the other?

1b. Look, call it what yo want but the fact is the Old Covenant is an eternal Covenant/Contract between God and the children of Israel,. Meaning the only two signers to this Covenant/agreement/Contract are God and the Jews, and hence the only ones who can fulfill said Covenant are , you guessed it, God and the children of Israel - no third-parties!

And as Jesus Christ told you there in Matthew 5 vs 17 - 19, He did not come to do away with the Law but to fulfill it.

So, the question to answer is this, did Jesus Christ come as God to fulfill the Law or did He come as a man/Jew to fulfill that Covenant, much like other Jews would.

2. God never promised the Israelites He would do away with the Old Covenant when the New Covenant arrived - both Contracts are everlasting and so remain binding to this day - every jew born into into world even today is born bound to the Old Covenant.

And at that, all Jews who become of Jesus Christ retain their claim to the promise of the Old Covenant in the New Covenant - Yes, they still have claim to the long life in the land of Canaan promised by God to them in the Old Covenant. Ofcourse Gentiles in the New Covenant do not have such a promise to lay claim to..

achorladey:
You wey talk sey you never see policies guiding una blood doctrine sabi everything

achorladey:
True talk dey sound like nonsense . I hope you are from the southwest. You should understand better.