₦airaland Forum

Dareal90s:
Is this what Naija Army has turned to? Save naija with ur vote come 2019.

That is what this Buhari has turned Nigerian Army into.
But may God punish any of us who, despite all these, still vote for the Nigga in 2019.

And yes, l voted for him in 2015 and it is a BIG MISTAKE.


If you say it was Ghadaffi's people dressed in Nigerian Army Uniform, then yo have to tell us WHY the real Nigerian Army has not been able to arrest or kill any of them, how they just wreack havoc on the people of the middle belt and why Myetti Allah Cattle Association for whom the same Buhari is a patron, has said the killings where as a result of the "Anti Open Grazing laws" passed in those state where the killings have been systematic and sustained.

Alennsar:
stinginess at it peak.wetin carry you go market?

Get over it.

If men dont assist you in the house (with your traditional chores like cooking, going to market, washing plates, washing cloths, e.t.c), you will still be the same gender saying men are heartless and uncaring!

What is wrong in a man going to the market, pls tell me?
What are you hiding in the market, that you think it will burst if the man goes to the market?
Under your 'gender-equality' ruse, dont you say what a man can do, a woman can also do?


Thing is women in general, are so evil, that they will find fault in EVERYTHING a man does.


As for me, l train my children, male and female, to be able to do what the other does - cooking, washing, shopping and all survival instincts.
Your husband or your wife is never going to be able to hold you to ransome over such small things, never.

silastemplar:
The bridge is at a cost of 108 billion not 177 bn according to BPE. Secondly, during the APC rally, Chris Ngige whispered to the VP after which he made the announcement that $2bn was just paid for the bridge gesturing towards Ngige while making the announcement thereby making it clear he was only Quoting Ngige. Afterwards, Osibanjo clarified the correct amount as N2bn through his media aide but of course Doyin Okupe carefully avoided mentioning that. Funny thing is, after all these theatrics by the yesterday's men(people who I recall how terrible their conducts were while in power) this current government will secure victory come 2019 not because they have been fantastic, but because there is no better option. I had rather remain with these guys than go back to a PDP govt.

Wonderful Post.

My worry is the bolded part of your statement.
In this country of over 180Million people, how can we say, with all confidence that there is no better option.... than this Buhari who has been a huge disappointed, not just to his opponents, but to his supporters as well?

Buhari has done well in a few things (he started well before getting derailed and collared by his inner caucus/cabal) but overall, he is a BIG MISTAKE and can only be scored 25%.

We need people with brains, fresh minds and people with vigour and love for dear country to come out.
It is embarrassing to say openly that Buhari or Atiku is THE BEST that this country can put forward.

But l understand that money-politics and ignorance on the part of our people (coupled with tribalism) will not even allow most Nigerians to see the good in people like Sowore....or at leats, change the status-quo.

Let us make up our minds that we dont want all these looting, analog gentriatics .... let us decide to vote for a candidate that is not older than 45yrs or 50yrs at the tops.

SalamRushdie:
Jonathan was a million times a better leader than the Buhari is , it so sad that people like me couldn't see that then .

Dont blame yourself too hard.....insight and wisdom were never part of your forte!

You blow, according to the direction of the wind blowing you.
Just like you are showing here, at this moment.

Cozee:
Oga use ur head na... na Atiku do wedding abi im son

You dont even have a head to use otherwise you will know the 'position' of parents, in organising a wedding.

Anyway, small boy like you have not done one before so, you are as clueless as Atiku.

BTW: Atiku is also American, carries an American passport (like most of our looting leaders) byt wants to be President of Nigeria.
I think we should just state it in our constitution that ANYONE who holds a foreign citizenship should never be allowed to carry a Presidential ballot in Nigeria.

Can you imagine onenFarah Al dodi becoming the Prime Minister of UK?

TonyeBarcanista:
I never wished to say this for the sake of party affiliation but I may have to say it.

Atiku wants to be President of Nigeria but took his son's wedding to Dubai, thereby adding value to Dubai economy at the expense of Nigeria's.

How many elite from UAE will take such occasion to Europe or America? How many European elite will take his to America or Dubai?


What a BIG MISS from the former Vice President

You took the words out of my mouth!
All these looters who dont beleive in Nigeria........... but wants to rule Migeria and Nigerians! BUT WHY?
So they can loot even the more.

How many Dubai citizens and elites, bring thier own wedding to Nigeria?
Atiku is just too Clueless and corrupt, to be a Nigerian President.

OyinO:
Holy Goat fire has consumed her

Child of Satan, your reward will come in full, when God decides.
keep insulting the Holy Spirit.

zakari247:
Christianity has brought nothing but corruption in Africa, prostitution, laziness, criminals in the name of holly spirit, murderers burying humans in the middle of churches for miracles. rather than build industries we build more churches that will add no economic value. more churches than hospitals, more pastors than doctors and engineers combined. people my generation please let throw Christianity back to those that brought it here. Christianity have made life for the common man more expensive. it has removed rationale in the reasoning of our leaders. can't you guys see how politicians steal our common wealth share part to the church and pastors and are blessed. we have many churches but yet the least God fearing people. we kill every day, we still, we cheat, we lie, we help enemies against our own blood. then of what use is Christianity and religion as a whole when they said it teaches moral value. if any come to buy my land and I discover he is going to build a church I will regect his proposal.

- Can you swear that all the 'evils' you mention above, dont exist in the Sharia state of Zamfara or other Islamic countries?
- Is it Christianity that brought about Boko Haram?
- Is it Christianity that brought about satanic and terrorists Herdsmen killing innocent children, deboweling pregnant women and slaughtering the elderly or are those Herdsmen Christians?
- Tell me any Islamic country that is better than most christian countries Germany, Switzerland, Canada, even America?

So, it is not about Christianity, it is about the "criminal persons" taking advantage of fools, using religion as a cover.
The truth is that "Man is abusing Religion for selfish gains".
Charlatans are using the name of God, pretending and fooling the gullible ones, that they are speaking to God.
And the Bible has even predicted these things ..... and when you see these things happening, know that the end is near - Jesus Christ.

moscobabs:
Religion has eaten up Africans brains how on earth would somebody in his/her right senses think that Prayers makes u pass exam or it makes u rich? African gullibility is on high level.

RIP anyway.... When next you come to this world don't come Africa so you can be able to read well and pass your exam

People like you, too young and too ignorant, are too quick to insult your ancestors... and God at times!
You all need to be careful.

The Bible said WORK and PRAY.

Take note:
It did not say Pray and Pray (No work).
Neither did it say Work and Work (No prayer).

Meaning, you will not succeed, if all you do is 'pray and pray' ...without studying properly (The WORK aspect).
Also, your success will be very limited, if all you do is work and work (study, study and study) ...without praying.

So, if like this girl, anyone chose to deceive themselves by doing just one aspect, instead of doing both, dont blame it on prayer, blame it on their ignorance.

I have seen too many examples (and l am one of them... you dont have to beleive me) of students who worked very hard and prayed well along with it, coming out of school with a first class or a strong 2/1.

Prayer works, if coupled with "work".
I can testify to that 101%.

mhisbliss:
I don't take advice from midgets who are not worthy to be in a conversation with me in the first place, you're too dumb to even comprehend what you wrote, and I'm wondering why I'm even replying your mentions, attention starved nitwit

hahahaha
Your symptoms are getting worse because you refused to go get treatment in a mental institution!
And stop abusing El Rufai, you are nothing other than a deranged, mentally unhinged online troll with psychologocal issues to deal with.

And please, stop wondering why you are replying me, it means l have diagnosed you properly and you cantstop replying me.

NwaAmaikpe:



Hey ya,
He should just soak his 'kini' in izal or kerosene.

It's not every married woman's pvssy you enter.
This is exactly the reason why I don't have sex with any woman whose husband is fetish.

Unlike our God who is merciful, their own gods have no joy and gives instantaneous judgement.

Serves him right.

Nigerian husbands needs to take a crash course from the Kenyan counterparts.

Instand punishment for this type of behaviour, is very desirable.
Its better than fighting or killing each other with knife.

femimailbox:
Now I'm in love with Science.
Humans keep advancing through technology but some people in this part of the world still living in bronze age!

Even after death you can still have a child thanks to frozen embryo and surrogacy.

Nigerians please wake up!

Who told you we are asleep?

Or is it because it is dark since there is no light from NEPA?

mhisbliss:
You're the confused and dumb one here, even if she's the worst person on earth, she doesn't deserve to be a punching bag and yea a man who hits his wife irrespective of the bone of contention is a jerk, an animal who should be locked away, he's lucky we ain't in the US.

And for you to think the woman's behavior justify the beating she got hence the two sides of a story crap you typed, it means you're also like him, a weak person who hits his wife, she married a divorcee, yes thats her first mistake, but she deserves a life nonetheless, the man must've sweet talk her into agreeing to marry him, so her mistake got her into this.

If you are as smart as you claim to be you should've seen through that, fish brain trying to be relevant by quoting me out of hundreds of comments, since theres two sides to every story i pray your mum becomes a punching bag like her, ode

Calm down and stop foaming from both sides of your mouth like a rabid dog on meth, going about abusing everybody here.

I did not write or imply all the rubbish you wrote up there but you are too excited and worked-up to even comprehend what l wrote.
You need help ASAP, your issues are deep and beyond Nairaland.
Go see a shrink before you remove cloth and go unclad in the street.

Kissup:
Why did d first wife leave?What happened to d first will happen to d second

The above is not cast in stone...and l have seen thousands of example of whay l say.

Why do you think every divorcee does nto deserve to be happy thereafter?

Take this woman for example, if she was still like 30yrs and she divorced this man that allegedly beat sher for no reason, do you think she deserves to meet a good man later, marry him and live happily thereafter or do you think she deserves to die of loneliness?

Are you estranged with your husband or are you the daughter of a Mother who went through such situation in d past?

delishpot:

I think they should be counselled properly to control their anger.
At that age, wisdom and good example is what they shold be showing.
No matter their differences, one person should show maturity, if the other is behaving like a child.

delishpot:
Sadly this is what the average Nigerian wife passes through at the hands of husbands. Tomorrow some foolish man[/b] will come out to write epistle about how Kids treat their mothers like gods while ignoring their dads who paid their bills. Look now many homes are passing throgh this type of shit in one form or the other but [b]hypocrites will not admit that their fathers over did the headship thing. God is watching and [b]will judge all of you[/b]vfor the shit your wives,mothers,sisters and daughters pass through.

Why are you sounding like a woman who got a raw deal from her husband?
Jeez! Cant you write without all these emotions?

Not just Nigeria but all over the world, Children treat their Mothers better than their fathers (on the average)
And this should not come as a suprise to any father or any smart person for that matter!

- Child stays in Mum's tommy for 9months, bond already established before birth
- Child suckles Mum's breast for another 9-24months, that is a no-brainer (even wives can attest to this breast sucking thing )
- Mum backs child for another three years or so
Fathers are trained to be stoic and independent, with self pride so the attachment to the child is not always there.

Fathers do what they do for their children.....and see it as a DUTY, for so as to create and attachment with the child for future exploitation.
That is where the difference lie.

And there are millions of homes where the mother will attest to it that the best thing that ever happened to them, is their husband.
Not everyone comes from a shitty home like yours ....and get over it please.

Kissup:
11th wife ke.Did his mum ask the first wife why she left the marriage?theres an adage in my place that says the cane he used in beating the first wife is at d back of the door waiting for d next

Always read and comprehend, before making your contribution!

- The man was divorced, before marrying his Mum (Check out the meaning of divorced)
- Once you are divorced, you are entitled to re-marry
- Marriages of first-timers ( no previous marriage) also suffer similar trials, fighting and even breakup, so whats your point?
- A lot of second-attempt marriages are very successful and worth emulating, so dont generalise.


BTW:
Where did you read that his Mum made the life of the first wife unbearable .............. or are you a 'sent-out-packing' first wife?
Where did you read that the old man is dating another lady and that is the cause of their fight?

Originalsly:
That's the reason for him to be told his wife is not alone in the world.... for him to believe it was the wife's relatives/friends.... .to rule out the involvement of his son. Almost always... if a man been beating his wife.... it takes the threat of violence or violence against him.... or the threat of imprisonment for him to back off.

I humbly disagree with you.
Please take a cue from the post of @Adebowale89.
There are so many ways fo de-escalating or even stopping fights in marriages.
Just that both parties are arrogant and full of pride, no one wants to be the "sheep".

BTW: if the son sends thugs but did not show-up himself (to rule out the son)....
What if the thugs were caught and they confess to who sent them (the son), is that not prison awaiting such son?
Charge: Conpiracy to murder, attempted murder
Sentence: 25yrs in prison........ for something that dialogue can resolve?

Adebowale89:
are you people a Christian? do you build any relationship with your dad prior to this abuse?


a family that pray together, stay together. bring yourself lower to a standard of a son to a father. talk to your dad, if you ve once address him rudely postrate and apologise, tell him you won't do it again, build a relationship with him, make him your best friend


then addressed your dad about the issue prior to that, talk to your mom to tolerate him whenever he's louding his voice at her just for peace to reign, since you're close to your mom, you should be able to address her cheerfully, so continue talking to your dad by telling him he should forgive your mom and always be patient with her because the way woman thinking is not the same with man, tell him you ve talked to her to always give you the honour as the head and some additional words



do you know you can tell someone is head is not correct and he/she won't get angry, the way you present it, is what matter. "what you did is wrong" you've tell that person his head is not correct because if his/her head is correct he will do the right thing in the first place



why I made that illustration is for you to know how to approach the matter. I was once a victim but when I grown to the level of addressing my parent I told my dad "is it a duty for man to always beat his wife whenever they ve a misunderstanding? I want to know so that I can plan how to start practicing how to beat my wife(sarcasm) he was so ashamed of himself that day and he couldn't utter a words, the beating ended that day



I hope my jargons help in anyway

Mehn, You deserve an award!
Some of these posters think it is a 'small thing' to lift up your hand and beat your own father (even in defense of your mother, against her husband!).

Op, you see, this is the type of person you should take advice from.

Beey:
Some comments make me mad.Like this one.Is there a reason good enough to beat a grown woman? Is she his wife or daughter? Were you there when his mom was running her mouth like you said? Gosh, these kind of comments just piss me off.It's like you are saying for his dad to get respect he must beat his mom up.Respect is earned & can't be obtained through force.Either you protect your mom because leaving her to be beaten up is betrayal in itself, or have her consider separation from your dad until a solution is found.

Calm down and stop getting too sentimental.

There is no good reason, good enough to beat up ANYONE, man or woman (gender has nothing to do with it).

Again, it takes TWO PEOPLE to fight, there are ways to "de-escalate" a volatile situation (keeping quiet, walking away, appeasement, e.t.c are just few examples) but there are also ways to Escalate it to a full blown crisis (talk-back, throwing the first slap, making derogatory statements, e.t.c are just few examples.
What you CHOSE TO DO (Man or Woman) in such situation...is YOUR CHOICE and you should be responsible for that.

Finally, a child is not born, to defend the "honor" of one parent against the other.... that is utter rubbish, you are just trying to appeal to sentiments, as most women do to their male child.

The best a child can do in such situation, is to separate the warring parents, try to settle their differences amicably by himself or with the help of others and if impossible, relocate one of the two "warriors" toa safe distance and out of reach.

Anything else will surely backfire on the child, in due course.

Originalsly:
Op...your father is a coward. You made a threat...he calmed down. He started again..... you have to follow through with your threat... or your mom will now see hell.... your father will give her all the beatings she missed while he was afraid of what you will do. I do understand you not wanting to raise your hands on your father...that's taboo... bUT....times are tough...for a small price you can always hire a thug or two to give him a small beat down.... quite a few slaps....thumps in the head..mild kicks in his backside...then drape him up by the collar.....and let him know all that is just a warning.... that his wife is not all alone in the world....he shpupd never again shout at her or worse..hit her......and should he ever relate this small physical discussion to anyone....he should be prepared to start a new life as a cripple....his life his choice. Do all this away from home...at his work site will be best.

Hehehehe...hire thug to beat him up?

You are assuming that all fathers are weak and cant do nothing!
What if the father is in a position to hire even tougher thugs to finish the child who sent thugs to beat him up?
What l am pointing out is that all these "advice of violence" is something you cannot predict where it will end.

Once a line is crossed by the son, "all bets are off" and they become sworn enemies.
In that situation, the father has the right to defend himself, using all possible means and you dont want to anger an old man, in such way (rubbing his pride).

Not to mention that he has other older, male children who can do the dirty job on his behalf.

We should always think things through, properly and think about the consequence of our actions, before embarking on them.

Temple1288:
You're completely wrong!

Beating up a woman only shows weakness! Absolute weakness.

What does a woman, beating up a man show?
Strength, right? Absolue strength, abi?

You people should grow up and stop using "gender" as a leverage.
No one (man or woman) should beat up the other, it is simply wrong.

But making it a 'woman' issue is arrant nonsense.

Troubledmind:
I'm Frederick (pseudonym) i come from a family where raising your hands against your parent is a taboo, my mum has been with my dad for 21 years, she's a second wife, the first wife is living elsewhere, they got divorced before my mum came, now my dad disrespect my mum everytime, he barks at her for nothing, even things that shouldn't cause trouble he'll pick offense, he beats her in our presence, back then when I was young and helpless I'll just watch and cry but now I'm grown, i can beat him up anytime now because I told him the last time that if he touches my mum again I'll kill him, i regret telling him that but i was enraged, this poor woman endured this for 21yrs, currently I'm not at home, i got a call from my kid sis telling me he has started again, since my last warning he was quiet, now he's back to his old self, the worst thing is, he has other children, he'll always call my siblings and tell them bad things about me and mum, they don't talk to her or me(my elder bro and sis) dont talk to me or mum, I'm the second child from mum and the ninth child from dad, he's always battering mum and causing a rift between me and my siblings.

He pays thier school fees including my old bro who's almost thirty and my immediate younger sis but he refused to pay mine, the only siblings that talk to me is the last born and the youngest girl, the rest sided my dad

Please what do i do, i dont want to be someone who beat up my dad

A lot of immature people have adviced you to beat your Dad (which is what l suppose you really want to hear) but before you do, l want you to ponder on one thing:
You have other grown-up brothers from the other wife of your father.
Can you beat those men as well?
What if you beat your Dad and one of them bigger brothers decided and beat the hell out fo you for beating "his own Dad"?
What if two or three of them even team-up and beat sheege sense into your head, can you handle that? Dont forget that he is not your own exclusive Dad, others wont fold their hand and watch you kill him for them

Because you are stronger than your Dad 'now', you think that gives you the license to take laws into your hand, not minding that you are placing a "curse" on your own head? Think about it for a minute, just one minute.
What is good for the Goose, is also good for the Gander.

Now, let me x-ray what you wrote, and hold you to account by your own words.

*Your Dad pays the school fees of everyone else, except you! What does that say of you?
*The other children side with your Dad! What does that say about your own character?
*You say your Dad "barks"! What does that say about you, as a son?
*You say your Dad 'causes rift' between you and your other siblings! What does that say about your personality and behaviour in the family?

The above clearly shows that you are a PROBLEM CHILD otherwise, your other siblings will not side with your Dad (at least not all of them).
For your Dad to refuse to pay your own school fees while paying for others, even a 30yr old, shows that he is a responsible man but you are just disobedient child of the family and you think using your mother's situation as an excuse, will allow you to get back at your Dad.

Generally speaking, let us assume your Dad and mother do quarrel a lot and being a man, he would definitely have the upper hand (no man will keep beating a woman, if she is not fighting back, over and over again. It is against the laws of conflict. Just think about it).
A good child will try to get to the root of the matter and try to "make peace" between the two, not take sides and want to beat one-up, for the other.
For your Dad to have lived with your mother for 21yrs, means there is something good about him and something good about your Mum...but differences do develop in all marriages and since a ship cant have two captains, without sinking, one of the parents must adopt the "sheep attitude" if the other has adopted a "goat attitude". But if yoru Dad is the Goat and your Mum also decides she wants to be a Goat, then they have to slug it out physically - That is a matter of choice for each of them.

Again, a sane child would have solicited the help of other older siblings, to amke peace in the marriage but a wayward one like you cant think along that line. You are just itching to beat up that old man, for all the anger you have bottled-up inside, against him.

But let me assure you of a few things:
- Karma is a bitch, beat up the man (assuming he is helpless), then watch what happens to you in future, even if you claim you wont touch your wife, it could just be a neighbours son that would pay you back..... but surely, you will get paid back with better 'interest'.

- If you beat that 'old man' up, there are "things" that the older generation can do to 'stronger young' men like you, to teach them the lesson of their life (you have made your self the 'enemy within' and would be treated as such).
Dont blame anybody if you become paralysed or run mad very soon.

- Your other older sibling, especially the Males, are watching you closely (they may not have said anything now) but the day they hear that you lay hands on their father, that is the day they would teach you a good lesson in life.

My advice for you, since it appears you are beyond redemption, is to move your Mum out of the house, to a house you rent for her outside so that she can be Queen and authority in that place.
While l dont support spouses getting physical with each other, especially older people, l think 21yrs is enough time to study and understand one's spouse and their 'temperament'. If by now, they still cant live together peacefully, she should seek alternative accomodation and leave the "mad man" alone to his madness.

mhisbliss:
Of all the section on nairaland you choosed to post this on romance section, where the likes of the two above can be found werey people.

Back to the matter, This is obviously an abusive marriage, i wonder why she said yes to a divorcee in the first place and even bearing it for 21good years,

Fighting him wont stop anything, you risk getting killed, you might kill him too, then people wont care what he did, they'll be like, look its that guy who killed his dad, you'll goto jail and your life is ruined, causing your poor mum more pains.

Just hustle hard, make the greens, get your mum a decent rented apartment and find her something to be doing, maybe a trade or sue your jerk of a father to court and compel him to sign an undertaking, that way the law will fight for you

Immature people like you should NEVER be giving advice, you just cant make-up the experience.

Read the story again, this time S-L-O-W-L-Y...

Even if the father is not here to tell his own side of the story (and we all know that when people report stories like this, they embellish it in such a way as to generate sympathy for themselves ) but a smart and experienced person/Judge will easily see through the one-sided story.
You have jumped to conclusion and even called the father a jerk!
You have called him an abuser.
You have questioned why she should marry a divorcee yet the same you, just two post below, is chastising another person who said she deserved what she got, for marrying a divorced person! You see how confused you are?

philip0906:
Same South Africa hosting Big Brother Nigeria. We give them our "money"(MTN, Shoprite,DSTV), they kill our people.

That is a reflection of how stoopid, Nigerians have become!

Jst to boycott Big Brother or MTN or DSTV or Shoprite, to prove their point, they cant!
Yet they cry and wail all over the place, about how SA natives are treating them.

We should learn to put our money, where our mouth is.

Flaghouse1:
Dabooomb,

At this juncture I would like to join the train of your discussion , well people only read few lines of a page just yo grasp what it's all about, in my days of secondary school comorehension ad essay writing we call it "skimming".the truth is that we rarely have time and most people reading some of this threads see it as a waste of their precious time. We need to imbide the reading culture into our system and like you said writing is an art or skill which can be learned or innate I agree with you on that 101% but these days the students we churn out of our higher institutions of learning say for the past 10-15 years are really lacking in this simple skills .

Now back to the 411,suing of dangote cement for breach of contract and possible remediation a to the client, i would say is not as easy as you think but can still be achieved, one needs to be very careful when embarking on such mission as this will be financially and energy sapping,sorry to say this but most of the lawyers we have these days are just there for the financial rewards and would not guide you properly if there is nothing for them.i use my self as a point of reference I just did a small transaction recently and the lawyer who brought the client to me was really hiding lots of facts from his client at a point things were not really working in favour of the client as the lawyer was more or less putting more petrol on the fire that was almost put off,to cut the long story short the lawyer called me telling me that I need to part with some money and the client also to enable certain ratifucation.

Summary is he who fights and run away leaves the fight another day , i am not accepting a deafitist attitude on this discourse I believe one day the masses will mobilize and set third right against organisations with monopolistic tendencies

You have said it all.
Nothing is easy
No pain, No gain
It is achievable....if we try but we must not feel defeated, even without attempting to try.
One day...one day..

I am hopeful we shall see the day.

At this point, l should thank everyone who contributed to the discuss about getting deserved justice, from both sides of the aile.
The discussion is not about a personality, itis about an issue and we should keep it at that.

That said.

I understand that if one lives in a house built with gutter sand, there is every possibility that the brain becomes increasingly dysfunctional at an early age, this chicken is coming to roost in its 'gutter-sand' coop at 4pm!
Na dem import the whole of America, to build a chicken coop in the last fouryears, na still dem dey pack gutter sand take do flooring of compound, yet na dem still dey buy any item mentioned here in any discuss, Wetin?

I dont like "Shadow Boxing", .............if you want to take-me-on, please quote me directly.
I have your cane under my chair, you hear, assinne over-weight He-Goat.

AngelicBeing:
l don't agree with the way it was posted on that wood posted by twinskenny, the prepaid meter in my house in lagos came with something like a POS machine, l don't know what they call it, once I buy unit from Phcn, I take it home, connect the POS machine to power in my bedroom and load it on the machine and it reflects immediately on my meter, you can check your balance, power usage etc on the machine, it looks like a POS, @Daboomb, can you please help me out with the name of the machine if you know it, thanks

The PHCN people just call it "Customer indoor Unit" when they installed mine.
The thing about this is that initially they say you need one for each Meter, which l found not to be true!
You can actually use just one to load any meter, as longas the Unit you are loading is bought on the meter number you want to load it on.

I am looking forward to the day, as l told them, when w can buy credit online and just by entering our meter Number, you can also load that credit on it over the web, without having to physically plug the indoor unit to the power socket and key-in the voucher.

That way, Angelic can load credit on his Meter at Banana island, all the way from Amelika!

Rubbiish:
Bros na wa for u ooo
Na this small discuss u for write this long thing...
Sir/Ma are u lastpage? Your write up reminds me of him/her....

I am a Male and what is this fixation on lastpage, on a website that has over a million user?
Why is anyone who writes well, always compared to him/her? I can remember a few people who have been asked the same question in the past, on this thread.

Though l consider the comparison a honor, l do admire him too and do try to emulate good things ..but does he have the monopoly of writing properly?
And why is it that people of today, abhor to read more than three lines, does it have to do with the 'texting/chatting culture' of snapchat and instagram?
Writing is an art and if you have what it takes, you can pen pages of insightful and intelligent posts, with out even bathing an eyelid.

Finally, the discuss is NOT a small thing (social issues of Justice, rights, fairness, empowerment, et.c are major issues), except you can say with your hand on your heart, that what l wrote does not make sense to you.

AngelicBeing:
Chai, this post got me thinking right now, like you rightly pointed out, after college in the West, l volunteered to work with an NGO, a homeless guy came to my organization and was given a meal

I don't really know what happened, immediately he ate the food, he was reacting to the food and was foaming from his mouth, Ambulance came and the guy was rushed to the hospital, it was later discovered by the doctor that the guy was allergic to the food that was given to him, to cut the long story short, the homeless guy contacted his attorney, my organization was sued but to maintain goodwill especially from donor agencies to my office, the board of directors agreed to an out of court settlement to kill the case, money was paid and the homeless man became rich overnight courtesy of the justice system.

if it was in Nigeria, who knows, it might be a different scenario, yes, I agree to going through the justice system to get redress

If it was in Nigeria, you will hear stories like:

- ordinary home, l dont have and you want me to sue an organisation like Dangotte?
- Hmmm... you want them to call me ungrateful, if l sue the organisation feeding me?
- God forbid, We will not see court case o.
- You cant win against such big organisation
- You cant get justice, it is too expensive, and so on and so forth!

Most people will look for similar, 'mentally negative' people to reinforce their self-imposed bondage to not be capable of getting justice.

Thing is, most big organisations prefer to maintain their 'good image', hence all the P.R using popular artists, and will opt to settle out of court, if they realize that they are really in a jam and the other side is not going to give up that easily.

I guess our selfishness, mental poverty and ignorance combined, has really ruined our possibilities.

Well, let them learn from this story of yours.
No venture, No possibilty of success.

BTW, it is an unfortunate adult who will not know that rain should not be expected, when their is a rainbow in the sky.
Even the Bible calls it a "sign of convenant" that God made, to assure man that he will not destroy the earth with water again.

I guess we just have to let people be who they want to be.

AngelicBeing:
Ok, l respect your opinion but for me, l have gone through the suing process several times in Nigeria before I left the country, not all cases really drag for long depending on the variables and the nitty-gritty involved.

Once I have a good case, if I can't use my highly placed individuals to seek redress, I will threaten the company to go on several social media to expose them or l consult my lawyer, l will use all the options available to get redress

I posted here few weeks ago how l got back over 4million Naira l paid for a land and the estate company wanted more money with their hidden fees, l used a good highly placed individual in Nigeria even without been on ground, just ordinary email / phone calls from me to my contacts and to the silly company and I got my money back with apologies

lastly, other people who paid are still lamenting and can't get there refund back

You always talk sense sha.

The thing is, we are very laid back in Nigeria, the cheaters know this, they know that we dont like to seek redress and will always give a hundred reasons why we should not or cannot.... so they exploit that mentality.

Most times, the slavery is of the mind, self-imposed and not physical!

Rubbiish:
You need to understand fighting justice from the average man context in this country. Getting justice is very expensive in this country. Your friends are rich, so they will have the money & connections to drag case with government. But u can't say same for a business man struggling to grow his brand, where will he get the money to be throwing around?
When dammy krane a nigerian artist was arrested in the US, he was given an attorney for free to defend him. That is how cheap fighting justice is abroad, but in Nigeria u need all the money & connections to get justice...Not when names like Dangote is involved, u will just lose the little money u have....Meaning your loss will outweigh the gain in the long run...

Let me take us back a bit, to what started this discussion so that we dont lose the context of the arguement (because there are some litigations that are just a waste of time and money, while there are others that are deemed a "jackpot" for the applicant):

- There was an 'offer' by Dangote to sell Cement at a given price and there was an 'acceptance' by the contractor to buy at that price.
- The contract was 'sealed' when the contractor paid for the goods (consideration). He is just awaiting delivery.
- According to the contractor, there was NO CLAUSE in the contract (T & C), to renegotiate or vary the price, after payment.
- The seller (Dangote) just 'uinilaterally' increased the price and refused to "perform the sealed contract" by not supplying the goods.
- Contractor contacted his Lawyer who, against all ethics of theprofession, said he should just swallow it, he cannot win!

That is the scenario and l offered that the Contractor has a good case and his Lawyer should even be happy to sue on his behalf, without collecting a kobo in advance (Prono Bono), while waiting to win the case and get a good cash-out.

Now, anyone with even the most basic knowledge of Contract law, Consumer Law on goods and services, knows that "all things being equal", this is a slam-dunk case that shouldnot even cost you a penny.

Back to your own post:
"Getting Justice" is 'expensive', anywhere in the world! Not just in Nigeria. Infact, go and ask our friend the America man, how much it costs to go through a divorce and he will tell you how expensive litigation is, from his experience, in America and the West in general.
Nigeria also has 'free legal services' for the less priviledged but you have to engage them at your own risk (bribery things)

The more money you have, the more the probability that you can get a good lawyer or a team of lawyers who can spring you from any criminal offense or any charge for that matter.

Having said that, we need to realise, need to understand that "there is always a price to pay, for the good things of life, including a fair and just society! Nothing good, comes free!
All these runaway 'I live in Atlanta, l am a US citizen' people should also realize that what they are enjoying in those foreign countries (where they are times, even treated as a non-entity) was bult on the 'price' paid in "blood and money", by some other 'poor' people like them.
Some 'ordinary persons' sued Walmart, sued Wickes, sued many other companies, for them to be able to respect and adhere to contracts that have been signed.
If those people were lamenting and giving excuses about why they cannot pursue their rights, if they are selfish and self-centred to think only about themselves and their business or what they will eat, those Western countries would not have been the "great, blissful, countries that you all run to".

This is why Nigeria is the way it is: Everyone is not ready to lift a finger, for the benefit of others, they are not ready to make any sacrifice (not for others) even for themselves, so that their future and that of their children can be better and comparable to that of the children of Americans, British, french, Swiss, e.t.c!
No pain, No Gain.

Again, not all court cases need money to start.
If you have a Lawyer who is worth his wig, some cases are taken without down-payment and the Lawyer uses such cases to 'publicise and polish his brand name'.
The money he gets when he wins the case, is where he gets paid from......... but that is for a smart Lawyer who can see that this case is as good as won and he knows what to do to win it, as opposed to just one charge-and-bail, law school failure.
This case is an example because it is just slam-dunk.

No matter how rich Dangote is, he cannot change what is already written down in the contract, even if he tries to influence the court, most judges will advice him to seek an out of court settlement when the case is this so obvious - that is money you just made!

Even the exposed runt that usually brandish America in every discussion and pulls out internet pictures like his friend, and claims his father owns any and everything under discussion is here shaking like a wet hen, when the issue of litigation was mentioned, yet he will be the first to be sounding like 'no one can cheat me and go free'!
I say people should always put their mouth, where their money is...... you can only lie for some time, reality will set-in evnetually.

How can Nigeria improve, how can everyone respect contracts, how can everyone be honest and trustworthy if and when some situations have not been tested and justice sought, to prove that you cannot always get away with murder.
if the family of every murdered victim claims that they cannot go to court to seek Justice because it is expensive to do so, then they should just keep quiet and allow themselves to be murdered and let the assailants get away smilling, to come back another day!

I see a lot of lamenting about willy-nilly increase in the price of iron, Cement, blocks, granite, e.t.c, what do you expect?, when fela says "Them slap your face, you keep quiet they look like monkey".... giving excuses like Mama dey for house, pickin never chop,.... ?