₦airaland Forum

ice4u999:
May be you should try hanging out with me because that might change your mind a little bit and keep you longer than 2 weeks in Nigeria.
For me Naija is my own get away from all the stress oversea. I spend nothing less than 1 month when ever I am in Nigeria and a minimum of 2 trips on a good year.

The best place to invest is Nigeria. I know people that uses money made from rental properties in Nigeria to pay their mortgages in Canada.

As for me o because my family is still young, they spend a minimum of 3 months yearly in Nigeria and if I give them chance they will spend 1 year in Nigeria and 3 months overseas or even move completely to Naija.

Three Gboosa, to this "Ma-Nigga".
If you really have the Cash (as in 'not struggling' to belong), Nigeria is the place to be.
Over here, everything has a Price!
As long as you have the money, everything (as in EVERYTHING!) is for sale.

And you know what that means, if you are really loaded.

Like Bernanche will say, 'The higher the Risk, the Bigger the Returns'.
That is the best part about Nigeria.

adanny01:
After watching the video, i agree this cement will self level. It does that because of high viscosity just like custard powder would level itself after poking it with a finger.

Just saw your comment now.
Seems l was repeating what you already said.

mufutau55:
You can say that again o... if you say ready to mix cement fine, but self leveling cement? How?

Hajji M.

There is actually a self-leveling Cement (maybe not exacty our usual cement).

It has to do with the dense properties (I know we have all seen how Custard does, when you mix a little water with it in a bowl....it will level-out and adapt to the shape of the bowl. It is the best comparison l can think of) of the product.

I think it is mostly used in water-proofing of floors, where l have seen it before.

BeeBeeOoh:
Isn't it obvious that since these wanton killing by killer herdsmen started no northern governor, emir, sultan and so on haven't condemned the killings rather, they always justify it?



Can you imagine? So, what this man is tryna tell us is that people(be it Igbo, Yoruba etc) doing businesses in the north doesn't pay for the shops they are using or they didn't purchase the land's they built their hotels?

Truly, truly Nigeria is Federal Republic Of Cow

Last Bullet: Don't condemn Mr. Ango Abdullahi because he said the might of an average Fulani man

It is "terrorist talk" like these ones from Ango Abdullahi, that President Buhari is listening to, that is informing his callous reaction to these Fulani herdsmen killings.

Buhari surrounds himself with mentally-deranged, nepotistic creatures (l dont want to call him an animal, by virtue of his age) this and one should expect that they will influence his thinking.

But not to worry, snae Nigerians everywhere have a job to do, come 2019: Get this Patron of MACBAN (the Umbrella body for terrorist Fulani herdsmen) called Buhari, out of office first.

After that, we will remove all the other terrorists he has installed as head of our security agencies, then we will deal wih the terrorist themselves.

Imagine the senile Ango Abdullahi telling us "cars need tracks and cows need tracks"!
He is still leaving in the dark ages of 1904!
Someone should tell him that in 2018, cars use ROADS and Cows are RANCHED.

It is obvious from what all the Fulani terrorists are saying, that these Herdsmen killings are sanctioned from the highest level of Govt in this country and it is all about "Land grabbing"

Nigerians should be prepared to defend themselves. Form 'groups' and defend your villages/towns, since "top heirachy" the security agencies have been asked to lok the other way.
Middle Belters and Southerners in the Military should also be prepared to defend their land, if their Boss choses to defend his Fulani clan and not the whole country.

"Where Justice is denied, Self-help becomes an obligation"

Mathematical:


LALASTICLALA ABEG WHU CON BE THE LIER NW?

I smell match-fixing

The only Liar l know is called "Liar Mohammed"

lexy2014:
d army commander said they mobilized to arrest pipeline vandals. When did d army begin mobilizing in Honda

Buhari has given his orders to Buratai, Daura Lawal (DSS), Dambazau (Interior ministry) and other Fulani he has planted at the top of Nigeria's security agencies.

But let us see if One Fulani terrorist tribe, can defeat all the other over 200 tribes in Nigeria, come 2019.

chronique:
I blame the vigilante group for not wasting the idiots. We all know the herdsmen enjoy tacit support of the government of the day and the military. With what is going on today, nobody should even think of handing over those criminal herdsmen to the govt. The moment you find them with ak47,dispatch them to the other side immediately.

That was the exact instruction that the Head of Ghana Police gave to his men, concerningthese blood-sucking vermins called Fulani Herdsmen.

You dont need an AK47 to rear a cow!
These Fulani Herdsmen are nothing but Terrorists.

simplemach:
We know it was a mistake
A mistake that the presidency refused to act to curb the herdsmen menace
A mistake that the IGP is against Benue state gov't for initiating the anti grazing bill
A mistake that the agricultural minister said we have not done enough for the herdsmen
A mistake that all the northern elites are saying Nigeria belongs to the fulanis
A mistake that immediately the Benue state gov't ordered indigens to defend themselves, the president ordered clamp down on illegal arms peddlers
A mistake that the IGP said the fulani herdsmen terrorism is a mere comunal clash
A mistake that miyetti allah said they will continue attacking until the anti grazing bill is reversed
A mistake that the presidency ordered the immediate deployment of soldiers immediately fulani herdsmen were killed.

Karma never disappoints, that I'm sure of.

And a B.I.G mistake, that we elected this "Patron of Herdsmen", as Nigeria's President, back then in 2015.

But the "Mother of all Mistakes" will be if for one stupid reason or the other (like Tinubu suckling to Buahri for personal benefit, e.t.c), this senile cow is allowed to remain in Aso Rock, beyond February 2019.

Now, that will be an umpardonable 'mistake'.... if we can still cal lit a mistake!

bixton:
They are trying to spread the granite well so it will balance the truck for easy movement.....

Naaah!
They are doing "Yoshi".

That would fill another 5Ton Bedford, for sale to another customer

frigsfriday:
Where is the IGP? Your boys are dying

He is busy attacking the Gov of Benue state!

Uselsss man

hushpapi:
The wise Nigerians know their is nothing like Fulani herdsmen just political strategy of destroying the image of anyone in power (mr presidents)that refused to listen to the rules and relgulation given to you by the cabals. They won’t Hesitate to kill innocent people for the sake of bringing the name down. They want people to hate the person in power, tarnish his image. Multiple kills started from the military regions ( abacha, Babangida and olusegun obasanjo) then it’s got advance more and more in 2000. When they got a lot of home boys in power and those who respect them.


During the time of Jonathan it was Boko Haram, now is herdsmen. Who else wey go collect power to pray ooo. The evil doers are in a bad mood because Buhari refuse to let fuel scarcity get worst like they did during the time of Jonathan which almost led to civil war in Nigeria. Long time general strike.


like Buhari or hate Buhari am telling you he is fighting with the most dangerous people in Nigeria. They got money and power. If Buhari don’t bring them down, they will bring him down. They are ready to stop the good things from happening. They got refineries, houses abroad, planes and crazy money. We need buhari over and over again.

Please just STFU!
- Buhari is a Patron of MACBAN.
- Buhari led a delegation of this same MACBAN, to challnege the Governor of Oyo State, Lam Adesina, in year 2000, even when it was the herdsmen that were the attackers.
- Buhari, his IGP and Interior Minister, all said that it was the anti-grazing law the Govt or Gov Ortom passed, that caused the killings
- Myetti Allah Cattle Association (MACBAN) has said the killings will not stop unless the law was rescinded
- Even other states like Taraba, that just passed the law, these herdsmen have started slaughtering them
- the same Buhari said the herdsmen are from Libya and Mali, that they are not Nigerians, yet he cant arrest them
- The same Buhari could not even pay a condolence visit to Benue people, when almost hundred of them were slaughtered by these terorist Myetti Allah herdsmen

I will have loved to upload a video for you, so you see how inhuman these MACBAn people are, come and see how they tied people and stab them in all their vital organs, behind the neck, the heart, lungs and then cut-off their head.

Yet you still think this is about Political office of President?
Well, your village may be next and let me see if you will say the same thing after.

We are just waiting for 2019, to get rid of this clanish, corrupt herdsman that we mistakenly voted for.
"Mistakes" are meant to be corrected and we will correct this one

Nwodosis:
The herdsmen are not IPOBs that you guys were killing for fun, these are the real armed terrorists that show no mercy!

Yea, just remember that the same herdsmen came to Igbo lan including Enugu and slaughtered your aged parents and raped your sisters.
You might be feeling gleeful now but remember that what goeas round, will eventually come around.

Join hands to fight against evil, instead of acting like a dunce

Godswillnwaoma:
I will not and will never blame them, cus Africa especially Nigeria is synonymous to hell.

Our past and present leaders will never go unpunished, I repeat, they will never go unpunished.

Do something real or concrete joor...............and stop repeating yourself.

Christafarian:
While it may a source of concern that she is now pregnant, it goes to no issue for me, what however is more irritable is her attempt at garnering some sympathy in mischief by continually strapping to herself each time she appears in Court, that poor baby whose father has been gruesomely hacked to death in cold blood. Clasping on to the Quran has also been another gimmick to gain compassion. It won't work.

She is what we call a cold-hearted, calculated killer!

The baby will soon be taken off her, once winned of breast milk

amnesty7:
No drama of cuddling the baby again?

Now, it is drama of pregnancy!

Wayo-woman!

tooth4tooth:
How can mother of a six months old baby be pregnant?

Those Prison Warders ehn, they can do miracle o!

obi3x:
only in exceptional circumstances..gani v. Abacha

Break it down pls.
Gani filed more than a dozen cases against Abacha!
Which one are you citing?

SalamRushdie:
Something tells me if Buhari wasn't president this might not have happened because I have noticed that the poor governance coupled with the uncertainty in the land has made a lot of Nigerians short fused and cortisol pumped due to stress ..I might be wrong but my hunch tells me I am right .

Just make sure you never obey this your hunch, if it tells you to cross a Railway line........ I wont like you to be run-over by a speeding train.

May those village-enemies "telling you something" inside your head, die-die-die-die..die...die

spyder880:
This post got me laughing, you are saying the truth about cutting costs and eliminating middlemen but, do you really think the man climbing the roof to do the dirty work is the same man who will sit at the table to churn out the figures in meters and centimetres? It doesn't work that way in most Nigerian companies.

In most of the roofing companies I have worked with, they have a technical unit. The guys in the technical unit are responsible for visiting sites and climbing wood works to measure the roof, they also return to the company and press the calculator to estimate the exact need and produce a quote. Then you pay to the company if you agree with the quote.

The next thing is for the company to send the material with another team, the installation group. These installers climb the roof to fix the roofing sheets with the supervision of the technical team.

Is there anyone with a different experience out there?

When you have the 'estimators', who does the initial estimates and takes it to his company who sells and produce it, who then send their Roofer to do the Roofing, you would have fallen "inside a loop" because there are no check-and-balances to checkmate fraud, if there was one.

But the good thing about this option is that as long as you are "blissfully unaware" that any hanky-panky has gone on, you pay them and they will finish the job, on their own terms.

Let me ask:
- If the estimators added a few hundred meters to the measurement, how does a JoeBloggs lik eme know they have inflated the figures?
Abi l go climb Roof?
-When this iflated measuremnt gets to the company, is it not what you then pay-for, irrespective of whether it is inflated or not?
- If the final Sheets brought ot site is less that the estimated quantity, but it is still enough to finish your job (and once your job is finished, you are happy!
Blissfully unaware that you may have lost about half-a-millionNaira!
You will even give then tips for a job well-done and probably recommend them as "professionals"!

Anyway, we live in an unfortunate environment where TRUST and Self-Dignity, means nothing to our Business men..

back2sender:
Daboomb thanks so much for that exposition and thanks oga Hajji for confirming Jony Tech as been reliable but also to shine our eyes in business transactions.

Oga Daboomb my concern here is that 3 different people has been to my site to give qoutes but from hindsight these people are estimators and are not the actual people that will climb and fix the aluminium roofing sheets.

The question here is that can i cut off this estimators and find someone(roofer/carpentar) that can still measure the aluminium sheets needed and still climb and fix the roofing sheets.

The idea is to prune down the number of middle men in the chain.

This estimators dont do the jobs and they are the major sinkhole(fraud) in this process. I will pay directly to the company and sound a stern warning to the roofer am aware of thier tricks and also to the aluminium company staff. At least for them to know we know some of thier tricks. I work for my money and deserve to spend it wisely.
So what says thou, daboomb!

Oga Back2sender,

Reading what everyone has written (Spyder, folmus, kopell, e.tc), it is obvious that we all have different experiences (probably due to factors like location, company used, middlemen encountered, one-man people encountered, e.t.c) so, what l think we can do is harness all these 'experiences' such that we take measures to safeguard against each of them since not one of them seems perfect.

My own problem was with my initial Roofer (just enaged for Roofing only but he was the one who estimated the amount of sheets he would require).
What l did was to ensure that even if he 'estimated correctly or inflated', l wont hand him money to buy it nor will he be able to steal any excess.
That seems okay but what l never bargained for, was that the staff of the company will connive with my Roofer, to try to defraud me.
Infact, l am sure that they have done similar thing to so many people but because those people are likely not aware of being skimmed (let me ask: how many people have taken the time to ensure, by proper record keeping like keeping a digital copy of the first cutting sheet they used in paying at the company, compare it with the output (computer print out) of the cutting sheet the machine used to do the actual production?
How many Clients have 'both documents handy when they were about to pack their stuff and did a dilligent comparison of both and counted all cuttings to ensure it conformed with figures in the sheets? It is only your Roofers or Agents that claim to do that for you and give you assurances that all is well, when infact they are in cahoots with the sellers.

There is something beautiful about "blissful ignorance", as its said.
What you dont know, will not hurt your feelings, even if it is killing your pocket.

Anyway, putting all the advice given by all of us together, you can:
1.) Get Roofers (actual Roofers, not middle men with Suit and briefcase ) and let two or three of them give you measurements, with breakdown of the measurements i.e quantity of each part required: quanty of Angles, Eaves, e.tc that the sheets would be cut into.
That represents your "Roofer cutting-sheet".

By the time you have required-quantity from two or three independent Roofers, an average of all, should be close to what you need.
This is the amount you will order from the Aluminium company

2.) Decide on Roofer that will do your Roofing job

3.) Take that 'Roofer cutting-sheet' to the Company and let them issue you with their own official "payment cutting sheet", make payments to their bank account. Have a snap of Roofer-cutting sheet and Aluminium Company "payment-level" cutting sheet. You will need to compare, to make sure that all those figures are as stated.
When ready, just spring a surprise on them by demanding to make comparisons, one-by-one, of what you paid for, and what was actually, finally produced (that they are asking you to take away).

They will try to hurry you up, (Oga, vehicle is ready! Oga, please remove your own outside so we can produce for this person! Oga, everything is complete bla-bla-bla, e.t.c. They know exactly what they are doing and they are good at it. ).
Dont fall for it, just take your time and count every type that was produced for you (You will thank me on this particular part).

When you are satisfied that what is on ground, represents the actuals of what is on the computer cutting sheet, and these corresponds to what is on the 'payment cutting sheet' that you paid for, then you are free to monitor that all is loaded into your van and away you go

All you need do after that is enusre that your Roofer does not "weigh heavier" in the evening, than his weight when he came-in in the morning.
That is, he leaves with only what he came with, nothing more.
.

I laugh when people say Johny-Tec gave them everything and they are happy.
What or how did they know? what checks did they undertake? Do some of them even know how a computer cutting-sheet in that place looks like?
I am not shading anyone for being optimistic but l just want us to know that we can decide to "be happy" irrespective of what we know or what we dont know ....and we will be happy. it does not mean that all was well.

This post reminds me of when @Chekitaut did an exposee on the different kinds of gimmicks that Granite sellers perform.
From "Yoodi", to Ashewo-bed, to Tansho, to offloading, to Bambam, who ever believed that these "honest-looking Christian, Walahi-swearing sellers", can be up to no good?
Abeg, laugh wan kill me here.


NB: If you need a Roofer, young and wont steal your materials, does a good job because he is trained at First Aluminium and is also educated to a certain level, let me know and l may consider pasting his number for you. it still does not stop you from doing your due-dilligence on him.
I generally dont like recommending anyone.

back2sender:
Please who has CONTACT details, website inclusive of possible of aluminium longspan companies in iyana ipaja axis. Heard there is a lot of this companies in that axis and beyond.
Hajjwna your area be this oua give me answer.
Daboomb our in house encyclopedia please help a brother out.

There you go! See attached.
and there are others within 100m of the same place, along that line.


But please understand that your Roofer (even the one you take along) can connive with them to short-change you.
What 'can' happen is that the Roofer will tell you that you need to buy certain quantity of Sheets, based on the measuremnts.
It is based on this that a "cutting sheet" will be issued to you, upon which you will pay directly to the Aluminium company's bank account.

Now, what is this "cutting sheet" sef?
The cutting of the aluminium roofing sheets into various sizes like cladding, flashing, e.t.c is done automatically by means of a programmed instruction written in a paper called the "cutting sheet".

A customer is given this cutting-sheet, asked to go and make paymnet based on what is written there (your request) and this is given to the programmer who inserts it into the machine and the machine simply produce what you paid for,

It is what you pay for and give to the programmer, that is fed into the machine and produced
Nice and straight-forward, right?

Well, this is where the Nigerian factor comes-in.
Now, your Roofer, because he has not been allowed to go and buy the materials on his own, goes behind to meet the Company Supervisor and they cut a deal.

Your Roofer, in connivance with the compony Supervisor, writes another "cutting-sheet" with the exact amount of materials your house will need and produce that for you.
What you did not know is that your Roofer had inflated your Roofing-sheet requirements by as much as 30%- 40%.
You pay for 100% + 40% extra.
They issue you a cutting-sheet of 140% of requirements.
You pay for it and give the !40% cutting-sheet to the programmer.
The 100% cutting-sheet that was prepared behind you (a connivance between your Roofer and the Supervisor of the Aluminium Company) is now substituted for the one you paid for.

At the end of the day, they tell you "Computer cannot lie", what you paid for is what was programmed into the computer.
But if you are like me that scrutinise things properly, y[b]ou would have used your phone to snap the original (140%) cutting-sheet you paid for...and then cross-check every item that was produced, with what is on your phone![/b]

That is how alarm-blow and l created real wahala that closed down the company for that day, until every penny was refunded to me.
My Roofer bolted on seeing that alarm-don-blow!
I fished him out the following day and locked him up for five days while my Roof was finished.

Why am l telling you all these?
We should learn from other people's experience.
Going there to buy it yourself does not mean you cant be cheated or they wont attempt to swindle you.

Happy tripping.

If l may contribute:

Columns need a Basket, so as to reduce the 'punching-effect' (Pressure) of the Vertical force (Pressure = Force/Area) it is carrying.
This is a fact we should not even be arguing about.

Now, since the downward acting force is what the basket is "designed to reduce", you will all agree with me that if that Vertical Force is "negligible", we can as well do away with the Basket since it is designed to "spread that Force" acting downwards, which has now been said to be negligible..

This is why Bungalows of the olden days dont use columns, not to talk of adding a basket to the columns!
Those Bungalows have stood for almost a hundred years and all the rain and thunder of many decades has not collapsed them but we have newer building collapsing even before they are completed!

In essence, if the Vertical Force is negligible, you can do away with a column (as shown above) and by inference, do away with a basket.
Your house will still stand (and the obvious reason for that, is that, as they do in the olden days, you would have used "standard blocks and mortar-mix", to erect your house. Not th fake blocks of today).

So, using a basket, being for a reason, is not given.

And that brings me back to the origins of this current discussion: using basket in the columns of a Septic tank.
As l have pointed out above, it all depends on "how much vertical force" you envisage and therefore, have the intention of spreading.

With particular reference to my able builder, Abdulwastecx, if you are building a septic tank in some places, where the ground is unrepentantly very hard, the use of columns is an 'over-kill' and waste of money because in such places, l have seen such tanks built with just blocks (no columns at all) and they have stood there, doing their job for over fifty years now. No collapse!
Why?
Bceause such structure is carrying negligible wight and therefore the 'Vertical Force' (from Pressure = Force/Area) is also very negligible.
There is virtually nothing, in terms of "Force" to spread (which is the job of a basket! You wont spend moneyand effort, just to achieve nothing, would you?).

Thus, when someone says you can do a column without using a basket, the next question should be "what weight is that column carrying"? Is such weight/Force Negligible?

And l guess the man asking for "drawings" is thinking along that direction (Such drawing will show the 'Weight/Force' being carried, that necesitates the use of a column and hence, a basket).
Columns are not just for decoration, they are an engineering, structural functionality in a building though a lot of 'enthusiastic' builders just use "guesswork" to throw columns here and there, even where they are not necessary, not functional and a total waste.

To say all columns must carry a basket without being specific on what it is acrrying in terms of 'vertical force' is like saying all cars must have a cooling airconditioner or HQ-Surround Sound!
if it has one, good for the occupant.
if it does not have one, it will still serve its purpose of just taking the occupant from point A, to point B (but inside this heat ehn, dem go confess their sins sharp-sharp ) if that is all that matters to them.

Let us not turn this into another bric-brac (as l see it going, if we dont stop now).

Both sides of the arguement are correct but they are both arguing on different things. No congruency at all


Anyway, wetin l know sef.

AZUH:
omo I'm now a case study because of bad contractors ,I don't think my house will collapse , because there linter beam and paravet beam as well . This guys wan use fear kill me . I build that house with many money . More than 15m now.

Dont worry Azuh, it was all done in good humor.
I am sure you have also learned a lot, along the line and wont allow the same mistakes to be repeated!.
Remember that at a time, it was Egun (Chicken Coop, today Egun's Garage is looking very beautiful), and then back2sender and then so many other builder-clients like that.
Dont think you were singled-out because nobody has anything personal against you.

And Yes, your house wont collapse. You have good Columns.
You only need to take special steps to avoid water ingress and l hope you are not in nay area prone to flooding?

diordaves:
To be honest with you, the quote is good. I only have problem with the digging cost. Is Ota that rocky? 40k would do but you never know. But I think it's a good quote.

The quote is not good at all!

1.) Client is not building in a swampy area and as such, his septic tank need not be concrete all the way.
he can set it with Blocks and used Colums/Beams to reinforce it for added strength. Egun has given a pointer to laying cost and we know how much Blco is sold.

2.) With the chosen size and the Client having Sand, granite and Cement on ground already, why on earth does he need half-a-million Naira to do that size of septic tank?

3.) Did you notice that even at that, the bricklayer is asking for 20Tons of SAND?

Twenty Tons of sand, for christ sake!, when it is not that he wants to do Decking!

Anyway, what do l know.

NB: I dont recall who owns the attached pix but they are not mine.

rabcnesbit:
Good day house. So my quest for a septic tank and soak-away continues. Size of septic tank is (10ft x 8ft x 10ft) and soak-away is (7ft x 7ft x 6ft). Location is Sango Ota, Ogun State.

Digging – already done for N70k after hard bargaining.

Quote from bricklayer work: 1 lorry (20 tons) of sharp sand = N65k. 400 pcs of 9” blocks at N190/pc = N76k. Labour (includes setting blocks, plastering and casting) = N80k. Total = N221,000.

Quote from Welder: 12lengths (39ft) of 16mm N3,500/length = N42,000. 17 lengths (39ft) of 12mm at N2,000/length = N34,000. 7 lengths of 10mm N1,500/length = N10,500, binding wire = N2,000 labour = N8,000. Total = N96,500

Quote from Carpenter: 2 x 3 plank of 11 pcs at N500/pc = N5,500. Somi-wood 23 pcs at N1300/pc = N29,900. Nails 2 inches = N3000, 3 inches = N3000. Labour = N18, 000. Total = N59,400

Grand Total = (70k + 221k + 96.5k + 59.4k) = N446,900 Is this a reasonable amount for constructing a ST and SA of the aforementioned size! Cement, soft sand and granite not included as I have some of these already. Thank you

Aaaah!
They have killed this Client!

EgunMogaji:
I’ll look up my receipt when I get out of bed.

I used Nigerian tile throughout my project.

Egun, l am in-love with this your kitchen Countertop.

I was just reading-up on past posts, looking for something else, when l saw the below post of Egunmogajin.

How time changes. That was 2015, this is 2018.

bigtt76:
Can he not go to the private sector?

Do you even understand what the issue is about?
You think this is about setting-up a Pure-Water Business?

Have you not heard of the phrase "sentimental value", for things that are not quantified in monetary terms!

Please, always read and digest properly, before commenting...

dadexcel:
Hi, can you stamp on an already cast concrete floor.... Or must it be while the casting is ongoing... Please revert ASAP. Thanks

Can you answer this question?
I know someone who is thinking about the same thing

okerekeikpo:
Benue go hear am shebi they were laughing at Ipob now it's their turn and they are crying

STFU!

And who do you think will be next, after Benue don hear-am?
Go and see the map of Nigeria and see whose State is next, on the "cattle-Route".

Use your brain for once and get-off all these silly mentality of "enemy of my enemy, is my friend".
The Fulanis hate you even more than they hate the Tivs or Junkuns of Benue.

Escobar24:
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Go get your facts right you shallow minded fellow. One of those 7 persons mudered was a class made of mine, a practicing medical doctor. And none of them was fulani. Their only crime was their faith. Just because they were Muslims.

Stop making this into a "Religious matter" simply because you think it will make the Muslims down South to support this nonsense going-on.

Where you there to know whether they asked them if they were Muslims, Christians or even Atheist?
Are you saying the killers are non-muslims? Do you know the Religion of the killers and if 'yes', HOW?

While we all condemn wanton-killings (something the Govt of the day under Buhari has been encouraging by ignoring the issue for some time now), we all know that it is about seizing and stealing other people's land for Cattle-Routes.

The terrorist Fulani Myetti Allah Cattle Association (MACBAN), under Buhari think they can establisg a cattle route from the North, down to the West of Nigeria, on other people's land and if they dont agree, they will be slaughtered.
That is the A-Z of what is happening.

It has NOTHING to do with Religion.

ItsMeAboki:
Those who have been championing tribal politics and sowing the seed of hatred among Nigerians for their short term political gain should be happy with themselves as this conflict is slowly degenerating and taking a newer dimension of hostilities.

One thing is for sure, if the Fulani do not get justice; they will certainly come back and retaliate no matter how long it will take - even if it is to pass the obligation to the next generation because it is not their way to forgive.

This not an isolated incidence; it happens all the time in southern Kaduna, Plateau, Benue and Nassarawa States; where the locals will block highway traffic in search of innocent Hausa Fulani travellers to kill as reprisal against casualties they may have incurred in such communal clashes - of course these killing go un-reported by the mainstream media unless, of course if it is by the Fulani - often with verification.

Those therefore pushing this divisive hatred agenda should know that they too or their families may not be safe once Nigeria goes up in flames like Rwanda.

It is FOOLISH TALK from Fulani like you, the same foolish talk like Sultan of Sokoto SUMMONING the Governor of Benue State, IGP saying "ethnic millitias" should be disarmed (even when he himself has failed in his job to protect the innocent TIV people who got lsaughtered by the same Fulani terrorists), the muteness and pretence of President Buhari (who by the way, was head of a delegation of Fulani Herdsmen who came to challenge Gov Lam Adesina in 2000 when there was a clash between Fulani Herdsmen and locals in Oyo State, breathing fire and brimestone!)..... that will make things worse.

All Nigerians are watching and taking note of the double standards of our Fulani-dominated security forces.
But be assured that of the Govt fails in its duty to protect Nigerians, just because it thinks the fulani is above the law where the president is also a Fulani Herdsman, the People have an absolute right to protect themselves by all means possible.

No one is afraid of the Fulani and their Millitia from Mali to Chad or Sudan.
if they dont forgive, others too will not forgive them.
if they want trouble, then trouble they will get.

Everyone is now fed-up with these fulani-bloodletting, arrogance and care-less about what happens next...except self-preservation, which is a right

SalamRushdie:
Which DPO has ever been questioned over Herdmen attack in Nigeria ..which one?

Well, since it was Fulani that got killed this time, DPO must be questioned.
Even when people ran into a school compound under the guard of the Military in Benue state, the killer fulani Herdsmen still came and killed everyone under the nose of the Military "protectors"...... No one was questioned and not a single fulani herdsmen attacker was killed or arrested.

Nonsense,