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idmanzik:
Amen!!!

Now GEJ can go ahead and have Bianca, "na wetin him dey find since"

Goodluck to him, Goodluck to her (Bianca), Goodluck to everybody, Goodluck Nigeria.

Please what the basis for this statement?

i think it would make sence to syncronize databases with the national population commision. better yet a properly done national ID card can also serve as voters card

resource control in progress lol

flexdee:
The Minority Leader of the House, Mr. Femi Gbajabiamila, who shared the same view, told a reliable source in Abuja that the palliatives were a “dummy right from the start.” Grin Grin Grin

He argued that the President was merely attempting to “pull the wool” over the faces of Nigerians by promising palliatives that were theirs by right.

Gbajabiamila stated, “Under Section 17 of the 1999 Constitution (as amended), government is mandated to provide the same services it has promised as palliatives.
“The issues of health, transport and all that; these are the fundamental duties that government owes the citizenry.

“You cannot give me what rightly belongs to me in the guise of palliatives, while taking away the subsidy that I ought to enjoy.
“So, I am not surprised that they have decided to withdraw it; it was a dummy that I never ever bought.”

@ Beaf, try to see things from my own point of view, stop living in a fantasy world and open your eyes to the reality on ground.
There's nothing called SURE-P or whatever name you called it. The truth of the matter is that retardeen is not sincere and can never do anything meaningful to better the lot of Nigerian populace.

i would like to know how you arrived at the bolded, is it a right or what?

this thing tire me seriously sha

^^^ great news auwal87, i sincerely pray a strategy that adopts peace is agreed on, please no more loss of life. May allah be with you in this pursuit.

Beaf:
Don't mind the wicked people. Later on, you will see them crowding out to tell you how Itsekiri people are their brothers (when it is about sharing money or resources).
Nobody kicks his brother when he is on the floor calling for help.

Whenever there are oil spills, do we see this same lot? No, at such times thery act as if the news is a nuisance to their everyday life. But GEJ calls a company out on its civic duties and out pop Lucifer and his angels to tell us how bad and sad that is.

what is even more painfull is that chevron has just been asked to share the excess power which has been wasting away all this while, seeing how this simple and straight forward matter is causing so much pain really speaks volumes

^^^no hope for this one

^^^ just wish more people could reason like this

High_Chief:
Ojukwu single handedly withstood the might of Nigeria forces that got the massive support of the west for 3years. He gave them a fight worth their money, he did what he had to do and didnt chicken out in the face of troubles. No Nigerian has been able to do that till date. He didnt take his own life like some local champion from Ikenne, he didnt die to any weapon fashioned by man nor subjected to any humiliation as so much desired by his enemies, rather he died a natural death and about getting a state burial. Finally, he is so much loved and revered by his people and the happenings in the country today has vindicated him.

high chief, allow him to say whatever he wants about Ojukwu, whatever he says has more to do with the self esteem of an entire ethnic group than what Ojukwu really did,

aribisala0:
Argument?
With you and  which University


You really are not very bright are you.?
I thought you were just pretending!!
Okay I will spell it out

G.E.T.  L.O.S.T

lol, what a shame, ? Annoyed already, see how easy it was to breakdown yor precieved superiority, u remain an empty barrel, gudnite, ooo

aribisala0:
Argument?
With you and which University


You really are not very bright are you.?
I thought you were just pretending!!
Okay I will spell it out

G.E.T. L.O.S.T

lol, what a shame, ? Annoyed already, see how easy it was to breakdown yor precieved superiority, u remain an empty barrel, gudnite, ooo

it been proven beyond reasonable doubt that IOC arent just ordinary business people, they have actually over the years influenced our political space by hook or crook, that said, dont you thing that the failure of govt over the years has some links with the IOCs.

you cannot tell me u r fighting corruption without fighting for a change in the structure that encourages corruption, thats why some of us see it as just another political move to attack the president because he is from the SS, not because they r really interested in critizing but because of wht they feel they would loose.
You what to end corruption than let each state, lga start generating revenue and paying taxes, let senetors and HOR member get salaries from the wards, lga, they represent, let the govt focus on being a promoter of ideal business enviroment, not mudding up the enviroment by participating in it,
it is not about fighting individuals because if u replace this set with another set, we will have the same complaints after a while,
Therefore you can agree with me that occupynigeria may turn out to be one of the costliest jokes in our lifetime

in a completely deregulated down stream sector, govt will not run refineries, refineries will buy products form oil producers at market prices minus cost of transport to foreign countries and products will be sold to nigerians at competitive prices, to say there is no subsidy or govt should allocate oil chealply to local refineries is creating the conditions for the corruption we r trying to fight, plus it dull and will put us in the kind of trouble the OP is talking about.

Rininery margins are very thin and no major rifinerary will compete against a govt run refinery, Allow private people to come in now and create jobs,
Has it occured to anybody that we do not need to export raw crude? Imagin if we has 15 refineries in the country and we insisted on exporting only refined products, can u imagin the boast to the economy in terms of uplisting the middle class?

A more reasonable subsidy would be to provide tax breaks for refineries operating in country so that the refined products can get to the shores of foreign countries cheaper than what obtains on products refined in those countries,

We senators are chopping we will chop tooo, the prevailing atitude of occupy nigeria, what a shame

every body wants to takcle corruption while keeping the structure that sustains corruption, it has not occured to most of the posters here that we would not be wasting time and energy investigating fuel subsidy corruption if it was deregulated and totally managed by the private sector, i wonder y govt in its right sences should continue running refineries, y do nigerians deserve to pay less than market price for pms or any other product? Which forward thinking country in the world with nigerias population provides blanket subsidies for all and sundary?

Take a typical ministry, health ministry, the health minister has two jobs, one is policy formulation and heath regulation, the other is runnning hospitals, of course running hospitals is more lucrative because thats were the cash is, hospitals and such parastatals become avenues for political patronage, use to settle political sponsors and members,

Imagin if all hospitals were privately run and minister was left to concentrate on her primary job of policy formulation and regulating the health sector, ensuring that hospitals meet standards etc, secondly imagin the lack of moral burden when the minister seals off a substandard hospital becase the govt does not run substandard hospitals.

^^^ just because the media report say orders doesnt mean it actually happened, obviously deep hatrade is at play here, the second issue is the excess power being generated, did d govt ask chevron to build new power plants, it seems u guys just need the communities to continue suffering rather than use the excess power.

aribisala0:
daft as a brush

have u been reduced to insults now, what happened to the preaching about no need for insults during arguments? No need to get personal, no need to use pronouns, ur true self finally revealed, hypocrite extra ordinare

PHIPEX:
Sanusi, Boko Haram and Northern Nigeria’s poverty
Perhaps the most controversial statement to come out of Nigeria in recent weeks is Sanusi Lamido Sanusi’s linkage of the mass killings of innocent citizens in Northern Nigeria by the Boko Haram sect to the nature of distribution of oil revenues in Nigeria.
Sanusi Lamido Sanusi-Governor Central Bank of Nigeria

A statement like this coming from the Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) and a prominent personality from the North should not be taken lightly. Since the statement, as if on cue, a spread sheet showing the distribution of revenues among different states in Nigeria has suddenly surfaced on the internet in an apparent bid to show the uneven distribution of crude oil earnings in Nigeria.

I have read the original story as written by Financial Times, and the original story also quotes figures that show this so called uneven wealth distribution in Nigeria between Southern and Northern Nigeria. In the story by the Financial Times, Sanusi is quoted to have said “There is clearly a direct link between the very uneven nature of distribution of resources and the rising level of violence (in Northern Nigeria)”
Explaining further Sanusi states that “When you look at the figures and look at the size of the population in the north you can see there is a structural imbalance of enormous proportions,” Mr Sanusi said. “Those states (referring to the North) simply do not have enough money to meet basic needs while some states (referring to South South States) have too much money.”

Both statements from Sanusi are baffling especially when it is considered that they are being made by the governor of Nigeria’s Central Bank. Sanusi’s assertion that there is “clearly a direct link between the uneven nature of wealth distribution and rising level of violence in Northern Nigeria lacks merit. Elementary statistics teaches us that correlation does not necessarily mean causality except Sanusi is in possession of some proven work that establishes this link. If the above statement is to be valid, then Sanusi must be able to prove not only that the incidence of violence in Northern Nigeria has gone up as the resource distribution to the South South Nigeria went up.

However, we all know that there is no “rising” level of violence in Northern Nigeria. What we have in Northern Nigeria at present is just “another wave” of violence. History of violence in Northern Nigeria is as old as when Nigeria became an Independent state. It is violence in Northern Nigeria that plunged Nigeria into a civil war in 1966. Since the end of the civil war, there have been various incidences of violent riots in Northern Nigeria that have claimed the lives of thousands of Nigerians over the years. The statement by the CBN governor seems to suggest that violence is a stranger to Northern Nigeria. That certainly is not true.
Also the nature of violence in Northern Nigeria has never been poverty induced. It may always have been fuelled by the level of poverty but violence has always been religion induced. The victims in most cases of violence in Northern Nigeria has been primarily because they profess another form of religion and not because they were better off economically than their neighbours.

It is also sad that the CBN governor’s statement only reinforces the revenue sharing mentality that has been the bane of economic development in Nigeria over the years. The CBN governor seems not to see anything wrong in state’s running to Abuja every month to collect monthly allocations to share in their states without making efforts to develop the productive economic base of their states. It is not the money gotten from Abuja that will develop the states; it is the restructuring of the economic base of each of the state that will develop them.

As the CBN governor knows, the billions received by the South South have not necessarily changed the poverty profile of these states. As can be seen in the recently released poverty figures by Nigeria’s National Bureau of Statistics (NBS), the gap in the incidence of poverty between the money rich South South and the money poor North is not that wide. For example, the NBS figures shows that the number of people living below a dollar a day in South South stood at about 56.1 percent of the population of the South South. This is only slightly lower than that of the North Central where 59.7 percent of the population live on less than a dollar a day. The incidence of poverty is higher in the North East where 69 percent of the population live on less than a dollar a day while 70 percent of the population in North West live on less than a dollar a day.

However, the NBS figures does not factor into its calculations that fact that a South South resident who lives on less than a dollar a day has a higher health bill than his or her Northern counterpart and most likely shorter life expectancy due to the environmental degradation suffered from crude oil exploration which is the source of 90 per cent of the distributable revenues in the Federation that the CBN governor considers unfair. The implication is that the South South resident living on less than a dollar a day is even poorer than his Northern counterpart who does not have to face the peculiar environmental and health challenges faced by its Southern counterpart.

The CBN governor suggests that “It is necessary to focus funds on regenerating other regions if Nigeria “wants to secure long term stability.” Where are these funds going to come from? Is the governor suggesting that the Federal Government take money from other regions of Nigeria and use it to develop the North? Is he asking for revenues to be distributed on the basis of regional development needs? Or is he saying that since the South South “has too much money (based on his assumption) than they need”, this money should be taken from the South South and redistributed to Northern Nigeria? This suggestion completely ignores the fact that 90 percent of the revenues come from just one region at significant cost to their livelihood and environment.

From a CBN governor, one would have thought the suggestion should have been that States look critically at how to mobilize internally generated revenues like Lagos has done successfully. Mobilizing internally generated revenues is what drives development, not sharing revenues at the centre. Years of revenue sharing has only increased poverty and income inequality as the latest NBS poverty figures show.

[b]The lack of merit in Sanusi’s argument linking the uneven distribution of Nigeria’s revenues and the current violence in Northern Nigeria becomes even more obvious when distribution of revenues among states is examined more critically. The gross revenue distribution among State’s from 2008 to 2010 for example shows that Borno, the hot bed of Boko Haram activities got more revenues from the Federation account than Edo State in the South South part of Nigeria even when the 13 percent derivation revenues were added to Edo State’s revenue from the Federation. Borno State has had more revenues within the same period than each of the five states in South Eastern Nigeria.

Adamawa State, which has also had high incidence of Boko Haram activity has one of highest revenues per population in the country only lower than the South South States benefiting from 13 percent oil derivation. Adamawa has higher revenue per population than any of the South Eastern states and any of South Western States. It is also interesting that Bauchi, another hot bed of Boko Haram activity has higher revenue per population than several States in Southern Nigeria including Ogun State, Oyo State, Lagos State, Anambra, and Enugu among others. The residents of these Southern states have not taken to violence to resolve the low amount of revenues gotten from the Federation account; rather their governments have put in place strategies to increase internally generated revenues to support the dwindling revenues from the Federation account.

The CBN governor position sounds more sentimental than fact based. A man in his position should not make statements that have the tendency to incite the current unjustified killing of innocent Nigerians[/b]

http://osae-brown-insights..in/2012/02/sanusi-boko-haram-and-northern-nigerias.html?spref=fb

phipex, love this write up , lots of points, very sound argume

pvee:
Deregulate this industries so that people can come out with innovative and quality services. Thank you.

ekt_bear:
Rather than giving orders. . . deregulate the industry and things will take care of themselves.

ignorance reigns here

aribisala0:
Not my problem mate!

As long as you keep out of my way what you are and what you do is nothing to do with me

sorry i am confused, r we mates now? I tot u were of a superior calling? And do we keep out of each other ways if you have voluntiered to correct all my typos from now on,

dayokanu:
So what do you say about the one who fled to Abidjan and left his people at the mercies of the invaders

LOL I copied this from a Ibo website. If he didnt know what was coming his way, why did he arm himself with a rifle instead of running to Abidjan

@dayokanu, we now appreciate why you need to attack Ojukwu at every opportunity, i promise we wont take it personnel again, always feel free to cover the shame of genetic cowardice in any manner you feel might elevate your standing, you have my moral support

oyb:
precisely, so instead of bragging spend your bloody money on your infrastructure.

is that really too hard for you super rich dunces to understand?

so much annoyance and anger towards the niger deltans, sir, apart from being blessed with oil, what else have we done to you? Its really not our fault to have the oil there, but if we promise not to do it again will it reduce ur anger?

dayokanu:
Shortly afterward, a detachment of soldiers led by Captain Emmanuel Nwobosi arrived at Akintola’s residence. Upon sighting the soldiers, Akintola opened fire – lightly wounding a few of them including Capt Nwobosi. After bravely fighting for his life and engaging the soldiers in a gunfight, Akintola was shot dead by Nwobosi and his men.


That is what the Premier of the western Region did when he was faced by bloodthirsty soldiers from a particular group. He did not run to Abidjan

quite brave, for every rule there is an exception

dayokanu:
So whats the difference between kneeling down and begging compared to running to Abidjan?

there may be no differnce when you look at it from the surface, but when you observe that such behaviour are rampant amongst certain groups of people, it calls for concern

aribisala0:
No worries I am a considerate fellow. By the way it is grammar not gramm[b]e[/b]r and there really cannot be "too much" grammar perhaps you might want to direct your lean cognitive resources in that direction.

unfortunately i am from the nigerdelta inferior stock, do you mind using your supremely gifted infrastructure to correct any typo i make on NL? I would truely be an honour if you could do that

Dede1:
The useless lapper had expected Ojukwu, the grandson of Umudim warrior, to play Yoruba at the sight of an aggressor from northern region of Nigeria. There were three superior officers to both Ojukwu and Gowon in Nigerian armed forces [b]who had Yoruba blood in them. [/b]They either bowed down to accept a relative junior officer in Gowon as head of state or scampered to the anchored NNS Nigeria in Lagos Lagoon or Republic of Dahomey.

The marooned aribisalaolodo would have been happy if Ojukwu had sought refuge in nearby Kumba, Cameroon when Gowon and his colleagues from northern region of Nigeria staged the unsuccessful coup of July 29, 1966.

its really easy to understand y the average yourba man would attack Ojukwus bold attempt to secure a better deal for his people, there exist an innate desire to defend cowardic behaviours displayed by their generals, Remember diya and co kneeling down and begging, crying, this is certainly not a one off thing, for all you know it may be genetic,

aribisala0:
I do not know whether that is a rhetorical or merely an unintelligent question. Either way I will respond.

One may publish ideas,opinions etc as
a matter of public record which the proceedings of this forum are or
to foster intellectual solidarity with those who ALREADY share the same ideas,
as a general reminder
as a counter balance to ideas which contradicts one's ideas so as to neutralize the nature of the public discourse and
how it shapes politics policy or
even the recording of HISTORY,(lest it be said that only one story was told and heard}
for rhetorical or eristic reasons or
as an invitation to those who disagree to make a stronger or more convincing case or
indeed to persuade others of one's opinions.

This is by no means an exhaustive list of why one ventilates one's mental activity .In this instance i seek to persuade none who don't agree but to let them know,if they don't already,that their views will be scrutinized and challenged with utmost rigour and therefore must be of the highest standards.

I deliberately choose not to engage with you because i do not think it is fair to overburden your cognitive infrastructure

thanks for not choosing to overburden my cognitive infrastructure, i really appreciate the kind gesture,
Empty barrels actually do make the loudest noise, so much grammer, so little content,

Sweetlemon:
@Da Lover, I'm a babe not a 'guy'.
Thank God you know that it is a ''gradual thing'' so you should know that we just need to be patient while dealing with our problem from the root!
Swallow your pride! Start loving and respecting your Yoruba, Igbo, hausa, itshekiri etc neighbours while telling others to do so too. if that does not work then come back here and talk about spliting up and I will agree with you.

thanks for correcting the issue of ur sex,
what pride are you talking about? What is the essence of different groups living together? So i should swallow my pride and ask the northerners and yorubas to pay all their attention to crude oil and nothing else? The yorubas even try to pretend they are working hard for the control of the oil industry, but i sincerely cannot see what value the core north is thinking of bringing to the table, if they want to go, the door is wide open, there is no pride to be swallowed, be with us and contribute or get the hell out, shekina, end of story

aribisala0:
your approach is to ask question and answer by yourself .

I really do not think you are interested in my opinion.

Yours is good enough for you.OK?

I am not really trying persuade anyone.

Just to let others know that it is possible for two intelligent and rational human beings when presented with the same facts to draw exactly opposite conclusions.

We must learn how to accept that in our life .

you r not trying to persuade anyone, but u place ur comments in a public forum? To what end then, disply ur typing skills?
Yes two intelligent and rational human beings when presented with the same oppresive situations can display different traits,,,one may be cowed easily while anothe will confront it headlong know that freedom does not come free.

denitro:
^^ Thank you very much, ^^
A functioning government will do what functioning government in functioning countries do!!!!
BUY BACK EXCESS ELECTRICITY, SIMPLE

Australia,
Any excess electricity generated is fed back into the national power grid for other Australian households to use. The household is then reimbursed for supplying this renewable energy - and this offset appears on their energy invoice.


USA
Most states in the US have net metering bills that basically say the utility company is required to buy the power back from you at the same rate you buy power from them.

NIGERIA,
GEJ
GIVE YOUR EXCESS ELECTRICITY BACK FOR FREE,

does the national grid get to the communities now? Between now and the time it will get to the communities, should chevron hold on the the excess power? If you are facing so many power challanges, trying to improve your infrastructure and free power is wasting away somewhere shouldnt you take advantage of it? Lets use any figures and assume that right now, nigeria can only supply 1000 communities out of say 3000 communities nation wide due to lack of infrastructure development over the years, chevron facility sitting beside 4 out of the unserved 2000 communities, is wasting away its generated power, what should you do? Spend money on those 4 communities or elsewhere, you are providing examples of countries who have succeded in electrifing their whole country, and demanding that GEJ spend money F00LISHly,

sheyguy:
^Why not pay for the power instead of 'cornering' it under the guise of social responsibility. The power belongs to chevron. The same chevron that gives job, water, schools, roads, and healthcare to its parasitic host communities. Why on earth should Gej stoop so low? This man and his supporter should stop disgracing us all. How many social responsibilities are being forced on companies in other countries?
We are suppose to be supplying these oil companies power and not stealing from them.

olodo, so the host community is parasitic? Wonders shall never end, you must really feel very bad that backward nigerdeltan were the ones blessed with so much oil instead of advanced yoruba race, i can picture u now formulating strategies to exterminate the communities so they would distrub you and you IOC, your oando and conoil, adolf hitler