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Angelfrost:
Nah... Anyone who can succeed in Nigeria, can succeed abroad, as long as he goes there legally and as a needed professional.

Anyone who fails in Nigeria might also fail abroad... Either side doesn't guarantee success.

It's a good thing we are having this Japa conversations now, especially in the face of stricter immigration laws.


For everyone suffering or failing to succeed abroad, there are at least 4 times many faring worse in Nigeria.

If succeeding in Nigeria were that easy or sure, why do people spend so much money and take that much risk to relocate?!!


Let's just fix our nation, and quit this abroad comparisons... Looking and fishing for negative happenings abroad to justify post-colonial rot in the Giant of Africa is just stupid.

Tendd:
Sex or companionship seem to be a complex or huge deal overseas.Everyone is playing hard to get or rather keeping to themselves.Men that naturally were hunters are also keeping to themselves for fear of rejection or labelled a freek or disrespectful towards women.The Feminist movement too is misleading women.Some think everything must be on their own terms which in turn complicates the issue of finding a right soul mate.Nigerian is bad in many ways but l prefer somethings here to the ways of the west.

EMIOMOADEOYE:
Sometimes, I wonder where these ideologies stem from.

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with a woman striving for financial independence—it’s commendable. But the real question is: what’s the motive?

Take a moment to reflect on this.

A financially independent woman faces her own set of challenges. The reality is, as a woman gets older, her pool of viable options in the dating and marriage market tends to shrink. Add significant wealth into the equation, and the options narrow even further. Men in higher socioeconomic classes typically have their own choices, and this dynamic can complicate relationships.

After dedicating so much time to building financial independence, time may no longer be on her side. Unfortunately, this often places her lower in the proverbial pecking order.

Moreover, many men naturally assess their steps carefully when they find themselves with a partner who is wealthier than they are. While some women might dismiss this as insecurity, let’s be honest—every man wants to feel secure and respected in his own home. He’s not looking for potential conflicts rooted in ego clashes with an “independent” woman.

A real man faces immense challenges daily, negotiating a demanding world to provide and protect. When he returns home, he seeks peace—a sanctuary to recharge for the next battle, not a battleground where his position is questioned or his worth diminished.

Ultimately, the essence of a fulfilling partnership is balance, understanding, and respect—not dominance or competition. Financial independence is a great tool, but without the right perspective and intentions, it can easily become a barrier rather than a blessing.

Daniel058:
These are men of God I can comfortably listen to their messages

David OGBUELI

Arome OSAYI

CHRIS OYAHKILOME

MICHAEL OROKPO

JOHN ANOSIKE

FEMI LAZARUS

JOEL OGEBE
LAWRENCE OYOR

ISAAC EFFA
APOSTLE VICTOR



The one I can really follow their teachings re just 3 ,DAVID OGBUELI, AROME OSAYI AND MICHAEL OROKPO

I can't really follow motivational speakers,they will end up making me feel that God does not exist

planetx:
What security issues? All the flights to Nigeria in December are all fully booked with both Nigerians and foreigners. Stop listening to all this people without papers always trying to discourage people from visiting home.

abbey621:
Even if you japa, you would still experience things based on your inability to plan ahead or plan for the known and unknown variables. In Atlanta, if you don't leave for work before 6:30am or after 10am, you are bound to encounter delays, if you drive during rainy season or winter, you're bound to be delayed by car wrecks. Depending on the type of vehicle you drive and the neighborhood, police go dey stop you on the regular especially if you're the type that forgets to buckle up or you love speeding

Depending on where you live in the USA, you're bound to experience hurricane or tornadoes causing electricity outage for a week or longer, you can be homeless in a blink of en eye if disaster strikes.

Depending on the city you live, you might be battling with gunshots and mad people, oh let's not forget you that love driving your vehicle on almost empty, e sure die you go need your fuel tpump replaced or fuel line flushed, no road side mechanic like 9ja wey go charge you cheap labor o, for here it could cost you anywhere from $1000 (1.7 milla).

Now now, you might be thinking haba shebi na to get abroad and gbam high income jobs dey await me for backyard........Not so fast Simba .

The probability of you getting an office job with a good pay within your first 3 years is less than 10% without connections. What is more likely is that you'll end up doing more blue collar jobs to make ends meet while you live with a rommate or a one bed apartment, you'll work your job or jobs just to be able to pay bills and forget savings o, na survival mode you go dey especially for UK, if you be woman you go find sympathy but if you be man even dogs go dey bark you until you make am!

Finally, yes 9ja is a terrible place and japa is a MUST for those who can see the writing on the wall but thread softly, not all japas are created equal. Arm yourself with as much information and resources as possible, know the laws and the place you want to japa, set realistic expectations and be prepared to work three times as hard as you're currently.....MAY THE ODDS FAVOR YOU!

Ikinternational:
The truth about Nigeria currently is....if you don't have somebody abroad that cares about your well being, you're fuvcked.

The abroad people are the secret engine that keeps Nigerians going. That is the pure truth

The abroad people are doing God's work.... quietly

Remove their money from this economy and you'll quickly see what real shege looks like

Take it or leave it....I don't talk rubbish

advanceDNA:
I like as all women think they will marry billionaires ....

Badmashiii:
The reason for most ladies objections to polygamy is not entirely religious,rather it's mostly about power and control.

If she's the only wife and you happened to be a bloody billionaire,she can control you and your billions. using what you may ask? with her pussy of course.

Also,she and her children get to inherit all what you had without having to share with another wife and her children.

If you know how calculative ladies naturally are,you'll be very cautious and clever in your dealings with them.

olaztek:
The current inflation is making our hardwork fruitless. You work, work and work tirelessly and you have nothing to show for it except feeding and paying basic bills.

Single guys are lucky because they have only their mouth to feed and they are also unlucky because it is now extremely difficult to settle down and start a family.

Eriokanmi:
It's good to Japa but look for opportunities there and bring it back home. I graduated, top of my class in my time, also japad to school in America. I came back with opportunities and they keep adding up. Strive to be independent else, you'd end up building some else's empire and fortune with your precious time. A lot of members here are enjoying some of those benefits I brought home without noticing. I read of the most-recent one here, of which somebody posted a review and I smiled. If you want to japa on a schooling level, don't spend all your time schooling cos time waits for no man. As soon as you finish, get a job and grow on it. You fit do your PhD while working. If you wan be like us, search for opportunities and bring it back home.

Doing business in the Nigerian terrain could be tough but it still remains one of the greatest investment destinations in africa today. You can argue with the Chinese and Indians who keep thronging our land while the land owners are busy running away without any assurances of future.

I'm not saying this to support the government of the day. I hate them with passion. They're the reason we're this backward today. Instead of investing in the country they've wilfully destroyed, they're busy investing in Ghana, UAE, Malta, etc. If I say vote them out now, their hungry doggs will attack me as usual.

Sonnobax15:

A married man who boarded my keke yesterday was telling me that had it been he wasn't married with 3 kids already,that he'd had ran away due to the economy shege he's been facing...But the fact that he has already got 3 kids and he can't japa and leave the whole load for his wife alone is the reason he's still where he is right now

Omoh,the truth is that marriage is so overrated....I stand not to be pressured by anybody to go into it without being ready on my own........

"Wedding na for one day,but marriage na forever"

ferfer:
The influx of immigrants serve a purpose. Let us ask ourselves, who are the greatest beneficiaries of this influx? Food, clothing and accommodation represent the bare necessities for anyone's survival. And there is arguable proof that by letting in the record number of immigrants, the economy is doing well.

Loblaw Companies (owner of grocery chains Real Canadian Superstore, Wholesale, Independent Grocer, Shoppers Drug Mart) reported a first-quarter 2024 revenue of $13.58 billion, a 4.5% increase from the previous year, and a quarterly profit of $459 million, a 9.8% increase.
During Dollarama’s latest quarterly conference call, CEO Neil Rossy called Canada’s growing population a “driver in the future.” The Montreal-based company sells a wide assortment of discount household essentials like knives, forks, pots and pans through more than 1,500 stores across Canada. BMO Capital Markets estimates nearly a third of Dollarama’s 2025 same-store sales growth will come from “elevated levels of immigration into Canada.”

And the Prime Minister was on record saying that they need the housing situation to stay that way to maintain the retirement nest egg of the older generation. Let me quote him - “Housing needs to retain its value,” Mr. Trudeau told The Globe and Mail’s City Space podcast. “It’s a huge part of people’s potential for retirement and future nest egg.”
The best way to maintain this value is to let in record number of immigrants.

Here is a quote from Maximilien Roy, VP of the industry lobby group Restaurant Canada "We need to have international students coming in. It's a key group working in the industry for us." Immigrants bring in money, no matter how small. They need bank accounts (RBC, CIBC, BMO, TD..), phone lines (Telus, Rogers...) etc.

So here are my two cents about this issue. Please note that these reflect my opinion and are not necessarily the objective truth.

1) The interest groups behind this record immigration are non partisan - if it were the Cons, the-same will happen. There is only one anti immigration party in Canada and I will not bother to name it.
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/understanding-the-changing-ratio-of-working-age-canadians-to-seniors-and-its-consequences

2) Things have moved from the realm of what is proper/ethical/right. It is now about 'what favors me'. I will give an example of this. In the next 24hours the City of Saskatoon will vote whether to accept or reject the federal government Home Accelerator Funding - this is tailored towards building apartments along BRT routes. The question is, why would they even consider rejecting free money to build homes when the city is being plagued by historically low housing availability in the face of record influx?
There will be stiff opposition against accepting this from the FG. This stems from the fear of devaluation that comes from building apartment complex beside "these people's" 500k homes.

3) So I have moved to the realm of conspiracy theory now. You see, record immigration depresses wages. This is the blood stained claws of Capitalism. The employer prefer more people being available for the few available positions. The employer prefer 24/7 availability for a casual or temporary position - there are less responsibilities on the part of the employer to the employee with regards to a part time/casual position. These are only possible when there are more people.
In the face of rising inflation, it is intuitive for workers to demand for an increment in wages and working conditions. This is happening in various jurisdictions for unionized professions. But for those 'other jobs' (yes, you know the jobs I am referring to) na OYO o!

4) This situation is perfect for the movers and shakers of this country and if it were the Cons in power, the-same would have happened. The lobby groups finance the various political parties and it is perfectly legal. Yes, it's looking likely that the Libs will be kicked out but I doubt if things will change even with the new party.
My brother/sister, make we shine our eyes. Be ye wise as serpents and meek as doves.

Kenn55:
My advice to people who read some of these craps thrown out here by people who claim to know especially the ones that claim to reside abroad is that they should ask the person what their own profile is.

The question should be: how old were you when you migrated? What visa do you have? What is your academic background? What is your work experience? What indemand skill do you have? Where do you reside? How long have you migrated? Etc.

Before you start talking nonsense we should know the details and make our known judgment.

Some people don't have what it takes to get to some certain level but instead of acknowledging it and try to work hard, they try to make it look like everyone failed, to make themselves feel good.

I was at Apple headquarters in California last December for their end of year party on the invitation from my cousin who works there. I saw a sizable number of Nigerians that work there and I was so impressed in a place dominated by Asians. All the Nigerians I met there had one thing in common. They were all PHD holders in software engineering, computer science, electronics, nanotechnology and other hard core fields from top schools in US and Canada. Some of them have bought houses in San Jose and living well.

The story is the same for Amazon, Google, Facebook and many other silicon valley giants. There are Nigerians there doing their thing in the same America the @op is ranting about.

All of us come aboard but no be all of us come the same way, no be all of us get the same profile and skills, no be all of us get the same mentality and ambition so no be all of us go find am easy or difficult. Know this and know peace.

If you don't have what it takes to get to some level due to circumstances beyond your control, it is not the end of the world. Manage the one wey you get and thank God. Stop trying to paint everyone with the same brush, no be all of us de pass through wetin you dey pass through.

Domaining101:
Lolzz. One reason i can never relocate abroad to stay. How i wan take dey fûck 5 days a week for abroad? My love for sex and women (Nigerian ;Dwomen especially) No go gree me. Here you no need guide or fine too much, just hold small money and package yourself well, na toto go dey find you come. But the abroad wey you dey go, the money wey you get na him everybody for there get too, if not more. Not like their girls don't like money too ohh, but the kind money you need to dey fûck their girls steady, you gats be millionaire in dollars, dey drive the least Lamborghini SVJ That's why i pray every day for Nigeria to remain like this because if this country better, toto go expensive and to fornicate regularly will become difficult.

richiemcgold:
Hahaaaaaa, you just brought back those old memories, chai!
Risky burger, old buka, new buka OMG!

That travails of Burkina is still fresh in my memory till today. I was there when he was pursued from amphi down to sports complex. Na so my guy tear race enter bush 😆😆

There was another scenario where professor Rogers makanjuola was locked up in his office by protesting students. I wonder where all those guys you mentioned are right now - - the saburis, legacy, tony fash, 3As, obesere and others. I graduated in the year diamond became sug president.

And on that D'banj's show, my group were very close to the stage that night. I remember how one very giant rat (okete) suddenly crawled outside while the show was going on. Many guys went after it right away but it was eventually caught by one of my guys. The thing sef amazed D'banj and don jazzy. What a memory 😆😆😆

But all in all, OAU gave me more bad memories than the good ones, especially how a supposed 4 years of study eventually turned to 7 and half years for me. Lecture boycott every now and then, sometimes because of Unilorin, internal ASUU/NASU strike, national strike, extra year, sadist lecturers, supervisor wahala... Damn!

MT:
While your argument was persuasive, you could not deny that for every one like you we have over 100 of individuals who are at the wrong end of the stick.

Some are so frustrated with what they are currently doing that they want out desperately, and they wont mind what it takes to get a sizable amount of money to restart their lives somewhere else because they feel they have invested in the country as well.

Such notion is wrong and should be condemned but it is a reality.

An average african man is not satisfied with the definition of UK comfortablility (which you described in your write up). Africa culture has a different definition to comfortabilty.

I repeat, I am not making an excuse for them, my intention was to tell others coming to have a realistic assessment of the country they are coming into and lower their expectations at the same time. Few people realise the dream of African definiton of wealth while living abroad even as a professional, as the system is rigged to always "take more" the higher you go.

Fujiyama:
^^^
The majority of people worldwide lead what we call 'ordinary' lives.

They have jobs, raise families, save, invest, serve their communities, retire etc.

The problem is that somehow, we have devalued these solid, character building, community building activities and characteristics. We deride them as 'ordinary' or 'unremarkable'. Nothing could be further from the truth.

What we deride as 'ordinary' is solid. What we devalue as 'ordinary' is dependable. What we diminish as 'unremarkable' is reliable. But...what we need to realize is that 'ordinary' creates VALUE.

There are millions of people whose names the world will never get to hear. Some of them are well known - but only within their profession, trade or vocation. Others may not be so well known. But they have put in the years of hard work and built VALUE. They may not have fame (which often comes with its own costs)...and frankly, some people don't even want fame - but they have built value. And that, in and of itself is remarkable.

The end goal is to strive to be the best at what you do. That may or may not bring 'fame' but it doesn't matter. Creating value brings visible results and that is remarkable. That's what counts.

Welcomme:
Are you really comparing UK economy to Canada? Check their GDP and even GDP per capita, inflation rate and unemployment rate, you will know Canada isn't close. The only advantage of Canada is the ease of getting PR. Even menial jobs are hard to come by in Canada now.

etrange:
To those saying he should focus on making money and forget about isolation, what you guys fail to understand is that one cannot make money if he isn't in good mental and physical health. To those saying he should come back or stop complaining, the dude only shared his observation. That doesn't necessarily mean Nigeria is better. The truth is that when you travel, you'll see things that you wish weren't the case, and there's nothing bad in sharing them. Canada welcomed a lot of Nigerians this year, so expect to see more threads like this.

As a canadian citizen myself, my advice to the dude is to fearlessly put himself out there. The life we want doesn't come by chance especially in a place like Canada where your next-door neighbor doesn't even know what you look like. You'll have to cautiously put yourself in a position to meet and interact with people and stay open minded while at it (origin, race, religion, sexuality, class etc. shouldn't be a barrier). Go to meet-ups (meetup.com), get volunteer jobs to give back to the community and meet people, go to the gym, bars or pubs aren't bad if it's your thing, go to the office even if you're allowed to work from home, join new-comer programs, etc. Show genuine interest in people. Trust me, they're also looking for connections. Some of these things will backfire. You'll meet some people that will treat you badly or some annoying people, but don't worry. Once you make one friend, it'll double your potentials to make more cause they'll bring thier own friends into the mix. And once you have a healthy social circle, you won't see Canada as an isolation camp anymore.

Again, he should find a balance between being the guy that knows how to save money and the guy that knows how to stay simulated. Some people move to cheaper cities to save money but end up destroying their mental health cause these small cities are very laid-back and they are not as diverse as the big ones. Depending on your personality, it might pay you more to live in a small condo in the city center than in a house in the suburbs. We say wants over needs, but sometimes, we confuse our needs as just wants and we end up neglecting them. Pay attention.

Good luck!

Emaprince:
Women are naturally hypergamous ...and are not built to be providers

Forget the fake equality they are pursuing. They know the actual role of a man. And if you can't live up to the billing, you aren't man enough in her eye and all that attraction will die a natural death.

It's possible she will even start dating high caliber man and be denying you sex cos all that sweetness about you is gone. You think being romantic can take you anywhere as a man? As a man, your first purpose on earth is to work your socks off to be financially stable. Whether your wife loves you or not, your financial stability should come first. It is the only thing that can save you in tough times. No one loves you as a man. You came to the world to suffer and take care of people around you. Especially the women and kids.

Every man's prayer point should be lead by asking God to always bless the works of your hands..and put you in position to be able to provide for those dependent on you. You can NEVER depend on a woman. NEVER ever try it.

Kenn55:
No where is 100% good. Every country, system, policy, anything in this life etc comes with both positive and negatives.

The problem is that a lot of people don't even know what they want out of life and a lot of people also don't know how to analyze and evaluate issues.

A place,policy,country in short anything is said to be good if the positive outweighs the negative. That means you have to list all the positive and negatives and weigh them to see which outweighs the other and match it to your aspirations and ambitions of your life not another person's aspirations.

What happens is that most of us don't know what we want or just want everything. You can't have it all,choose your battle. For example, someone doesn't want to pay tax but want 24/7 light, water, good roads, world class infrastructure, quality education,quality healthcare,security etc, that is not possible, so you either stay where you don't pay taxes and manage whatever service you get and don't complain or you pay the tax, get the services and don't complain.

In Canada, whether you are jobless, homeless,rich poor etc, as long as you are a citizen or PR, your healthcare treatment is free of charge. My wife had a medical procedure of recent that would have cost us $17k if we were to pay but we paid nothing. This is one of the reasons why our taxes are higher than say USA cos of the universal health care funded by tax payers.

If people can just define what they want and make proper analysis, all these useless threads and complains on this forum will disappear

spiSeyi:
Wealth is only made by solving big problems and you can only build wealth in an environment with more problems because you will have a lot of problems to solve.
Have you ever imagined why big Chinese and Indian firms are penetrating Africa, especially Nigeria .
Only 2-5% of the black race have a sense of mission and that is why we have a few billionaires.
Those who japa lack the sense of mission and all they want is to live a life of daily bread . and I can tell you that japa will not make anybody wealthy but just get them some basic comforts in life. The 100k USD some folks are receiving as yearly pay abroad is what Dangote and the likes pay for a night stay in hotels . The bottom line there is nothing wrong with living for daily bread and creating generational wealth because it is a matter of choice.

nairalanda1:
Just know that as you think their laws are rubbish, they too think your laws are rubbish.

The thing is, when you go abroad, you have to do as they do abroad to an extent. You have to find out about the dos and don'ts

Like now, if you were going to Saudi , would you go with a bible to start preaching the word to Saudis on the street., or carry beer and drink it on the streets of Saudi.? Or would you go to Russia and stand in Moscow and shout that Putin is a thief and a liar, out loud?

Or would a white man come to Kano, here in Nigeria, and kiss his gay husband on the street of the old city of Kano?

If you want to change their laws, then do what it takes to become a citizen, and then agitate for that. Othwerwise, as a guest, you got to follow the rules.

NuCypher:
Good discussion! Let me give my own opinion. Warning: this is a long one! Sorry

I think many people coming to Canada come with too many expectations. These expectations often start with that well-known worry inherent in the constant “why is VFS delaying my passports?”, “who can I send a message to”, “I just messaged the MP of my district”, bla bla bla. THat offs me on a steady. You are sending mail to VFS to hurry along with your passport that will certainly come if you don’t lift a finger, yet you are not even researching the other things you need to do to SURVIVE in canada. You are not researching the techniques with which to get a job. You are not investigating LinkedIn and looking into how to build a good profile. You are basically instead worrying day and night about VFS sending a passport that will certainly come to you. I’m digressing sha, but I just responded to one of them today, so it’s sort of fresh in my head. Not knowing it is a problem is a big thing.

But that’s besides the point. For me, I can easily imagine anyone regretting their coming to Canada. It’s very easy to regret it. You get here full of so many expectations. The country is after all just north of America. It’s basically America’s 51st state, lmao. So, opportunities should abound, right? Well, wrong! There is nowhere in the world where opportunities are handed out like a chicken on a plate. Not even in the Nigeria you were coming from. Many a times, we have to work for our opportunities everywhere we find ourselves. In any case, it’s easy to regret. You are working odd jobs. You are paying the type of rent you have never paid in your life. Car insurance for a year is basically the same amount of money you will pay for a year’s rent in Lekki. No be juju be that? Lmao! One other thing some of those youtubers mention (I’ll come to them in a minute), is that they have to pay for daycare, or that there’s nobody to help them with their children, or that they are afraid of what is being taught in the schools, so they must send their wards to catholic schools. All well and good. Another complaint is loneliness, how it’s very difficult to find someone to marry, said in the breadth as if it’s any easier in Lagos (Nearly all the men in Lagos are mad! –now, that’s a good reference book).

In any case, it’s easy for anyone to regret their Canada move. Coming in with so many expectations and finding Canada trash these expectations one after the other, they become disillusioned and start to wallow in regret.

But not everyone does. I know because I have a couple of friends who will tell you immediately that Canada has done for them what Nigeria could never have done. One of my friends I was talking to the other day, who was working pretty much an executive assistant job in Deloitte in Nigeria, now finds herself in a position here in Canada that she could never have imagined being in Nigeria. In fact, she actually almost lost her life, but thanks to the same Canada health system that YouTubers love to vilify, she is well and alive today. And not just that, she and her husband have a much better marriage than they did in Nigeria, they recently bought a house that has risen tremendously in value, and are doing extremely well for themselves, all from working what are regular jobs in Canada, not tech jobs, not nursing jobs, etc. Standard, regular jobs. They boast of a net worth they will never have approached in at least 10 years of working in Nigeria.

That aside, personal stories aside. living in a different country and expecting things to obtain like they do in your home country is really just plain stupid. There’s no loneliness in Canada; there’s just a Canada way of life. There’s a way people (and Canadians generally) live in this country that appears to suggest or cause loneliness, but it’s the way of life. People are mostly indoors in winter time, because it’s cold outside. Most get-togethers happen among friends, not strangers. Sports is a very good way of passing time in this country and that cuts across. Football (or what is called soccer) is not a popular sport here. Put simply, there’s a way of life. If you come from Nigeria and you can’t find people to play football with you, it’s not because they are boring. Dude, wake up! Most people just don’t play football here. Have you tried hockey!? In Nigeria, it’s not out of place to just walk into a random party on the street and suddenly get accepted by those celebrating. You could even be served food. In Yoruba parlance, they call it “mogbo moya”. You can’t do that here. It’s the culture. Celebrations happen mostly among friends known very well to each other. I read something the other day when someone said “Christmas was so boring in Canada.” No dude, CHristmas is not boring in Canada. They just don’t celebrate Christmas here like they do in Nigeria. CHristmas is mostly sitting at a table with family, having a good discussion and a drink. Maybe find or get into a friend group where you could also do the same? And there are places you can find friend groups. Start with a church, if you are lost. If you are not a church person, but you are still “lonely”, again, start with a church. They’ll accept you. Or look for friend groups on whatsapp, telegram channels, etc. There’s always one or two things going on. What you shouldn’t expect is that someone will literally come and drag you from inside your apartment to come hang out with them. Even that doesn’t happen in Lagos. But people often get so carried away with their loneliness, that they think everything else should start with them.

And on these YouTubers who are quick to post the “top 10 reasons why people are leaving Canada”, maybe we need to start first with why they themselves haven’t left? That’s possibly a sensitive trigger question for them. I’m sure they are having it so good with their fast uploads/download speeds, their restaurant outings, their “follow me grocery shopping” and nobody is snatching their phones, or their “I went on a Jamaican vacation” to be too bothered about leaving Canada. The life they portray in their videos may in fact be literally impossible if they were not in Canada. That can only say one thing, and that is that they do these videos just for the clicks and the views. Nothing else.
People may in fact be leaving Canada. That’s not unusual. It’s not automatic that everyone will have success in Canada. That’s not written in stone anywhere. To succeed in life, we have to apply ourselves in different ways. But to think Canada doesn’t make the path easy is to tell a lie. I know a few people who have pivoted into tech in Canada from taking a few courses online and truly applying themselves. Admittedly, this happens in Nigeria too, just as it does in Canada. But if you don’t want it badly, why should you expect to get it? And of course, the pay can never be commensurate.

One of the YouTubers I was listening to the other day also mentioned something about how daycare is expensive for them. I'm actually quite surprised she didn't expect this before coming to Canada. It simply means she didn't do her research well. If she did, she'd have planned better for this. Maybe prioritize only WFH jobs? Maybe move without the kids for starters? Whatever is possible, good research will most certainly tell her what to do. What's plain dumb is coming on YouTube to lament about it, as if it was not expected. There's a reason most Canadians are content with just having one or two kids and no more. This is something they have an intimate understanding of while growing up. Most of them have even ruled out kids completely, which is not an entirely bad move for someone who wants to stay financially independent. Again, it's the way of life. And that's why you will hardly ever see a Canadian go on YouTube to complain about expensive daycare. The Nigerian, on the other hand, comes into the country expecting things to be exactly like they left it in Nigeria. Sorry, babe, that's not how life works. You needed to understand this well before making your Canada move. If you did, you will plan much better for it.

It’s not a surprise that an idle mind is the devil’s workshop. That saying is truer than ever about those who wallow on their couch in Canada thinking about what fancy life they had in Nigeria and why they can’t have the same in Canada. They grovel in their previous success and cannot replicate it. You start to wonder if they really truly succeeded in Nigeria or if it was just all luck. Was passing that exam in Nigeria a fluke for them? If it wasn’t, why are they struggling with passing their exams here? Did they truly understand the subject? Did they have the passion for what they did in Nigeria? One of the tales I told up there about the couple who succeeded in Canada actually has a side to it that’s not that impressive. The wife was a practicing doctor in Nigeria who couldn’t scale the hurdle of practicing in Canada. Talking to her, you could perceive she wasn’t even passionate about being a doctor at all. Little wonder she couldn’t truly apply herself in Canada to scale that well-known, difficult hurdle. She ended up with a government job that she still enjoys now anyways. But at least, she’s not complaining like the many others.

There are different sides to Canada, let’s be real. There’s the good and the bad. But one thing I can tell you for real is that opportunities abound, but only if you set your mind to earning those opportunities. That much is true.

[/quote][quote author=Acidosis post=125520196]The truth of the matter is that Nigerian women in the UK will always have an edge over their husbands. This is not about the UK laws but the fact that most japa trips from Nigerian families were initiated by the madam of the house (wives). Many will do anything and everything to remain in that country, including destroying the marriage.

EduTechTainMent:
When it comes to jaapa-ing, Nigerians suddenly become motivational speakers, and become overly optimistic and sentimental.

What many fail to realise is that fingers are not equal and destinies differ. What worked for taiye may not work for kehinde.

What many also fail to understand is that having money is not the absolute solution to all the problems of life and doesn't guarantee happiness. We all have what makes us tick. Not all millionaires are happy. Happiness and richness comes from contentment of mind. That should not stop one from aspiring and striving to work towards the best

People are quick to recommend asking someone to start from the bottom of the ladder forgetting to factor in the mental stress and feeling of failure/depression that may result from that. Not everyone can withstand such. Not everyone can survive that. During such periods, the family you all based your actions on may eventually be lost due ones temperament.

There aren't any guarantees in life. Not everyone will make it in Nigeria and definitely not everyone will make it abroad. Globally it's all about huzzling and jama jama. Till death comes knocking, man shall continue huzzling. Everybody dey hussle to make ends meet. Even the natural borns abroad.


Yes, as a family man, your family and kids are a top priority. Abroad doesn't automatically guarantee your kids will be successful in life. It also depends on what yardstick we use to measure our success or failure.

Bringing up your kids in Nigeria also doesn't guarantee your kids won't be successful in life. Many of those clamoring for jaapa were born and bred in Nigeria, and yet you can say they have a relatively comfortable life.

Money is important, very important Infact, but it isn't everything. Those who are pro jaapa are quick to point out the opportunities the kids will get by virtue of staying abroad. What about the inherent risks? LGBTQ, mental health challenges, peer pressure, loss of sense of family and heritage, etc. All these risks are also present in Nigeria but at varying degrees. So one has to be thorough in analysing the pros and cons of his/her japaa and most importantly do not be pressured into following the popular bandwagon effect- many are japaaing, let me do same.

There comes a time in a man's life when all he needs is stability - to grow, enjoy life, enjoy the fruits of his labour and dedicate his time to family. For how many decades will a man continue chasing the world. Personally I believe OP has gotten to that stage in his life where stability matters a lot and not uncertainties. What most people will want the OP to do is spend 2/3 of his life chasing the world. When manpikin wan rest.


I can understand the Ops dilemma. All I would advice is take your time and read through all the advises gotten from this thread both from the pro japaa and anti japaa gangs. There is lots of wisdom in what has been shared on here by both parties. Then ultimately seek divine guidance and take the leap hoping for the very best. Whatever you do though, have a positive and growth mindset and do not regret your decision. I wish you and your family the very best.

EduTechTainMent:
When it comes to jaapa-ing, Nigerians suddenly become motivational speakers, and become overly optimistic and sentimental.

What many fail to realise is that fingers are not equal and destinies differ. What worked for taiye may not work for kehinde.

What many also fail to understand is that having money is not the absolute solution to all the problems of life and doesn't guarantee happiness. We all have what makes us tick. Not all millionaires are happy. Happiness and richness comes from contentment of mind. That should not stop one from aspiring and striving to work towards the best

People are quick to recommend asking someone to start from the bottom of the ladder forgetting to factor in the mental stress and feeling of failure/depression that may result from that. Not everyone can withstand such. Not everyone can survive that. During such periods, the family you all based your actions on may eventually be lost due ones temperament.

There aren't any guarantees in life. Not everyone will make it in Nigeria and definitely not everyone will make it abroad. Globally it's all about huzzling and jama jama. Till death comes knocking, man shall continue huzzling. Everybody dey hussle to make ends meet. Even the natural borns abroad.


Yes, as a family man, your family and kids are a top priority. Abroad doesn't automatically guarantee your kids will be successful in life. It also depends on what yardstick we use to measure our success or failure.

Bringing up your kids in Nigeria also doesn't guarantee your kids won't be successful in life. Many of those clamoring for jaapa were born and bred in Nigeria, and yet you can say they have a relatively comfortable life.

Money is important, very important Infact, but it isn't everything. Those who are pro jaapa are quick to point out the opportunities the kids will get by virtue of staying abroad. What about the inherent risks? LGBTQ, mental health challenges, peer pressure, loss of sense of family and heritage, etc. All these risks are also present in Nigeria but at varying degrees. So one has to be thorough in analysing the pros and cons of his/her japaa and most importantly do not be pressured into following the popular bandwagon effect- many are japaaing, let me do same.

There comes a time in a man's life when all he needs is stability - to grow, enjoy life, enjoy the fruits of his labour and dedicate his time to family. For how many decades will a man continue chasing the world. Personally I believe OP has gotten to that stage in his life where stability matters a lot and not uncertainties. What most people will want the OP to do is spend 2/3 of his life chasing the ;Dworld. When manpikin wan rest.


I can understand the Ops dilemma. All I would advice is take your time and read through all the advises gotten from this thread both from the pro japaa and anti japaa gangs. There is lots of wisdom in what has been shared on here by both parties. Then ultimately seek divine guidance and take the leap hoping for the very best. Whatever you do though, have a positive and growth mindset and do not regret your decision. I wish you and your family the very best.

t2luv1:
I'm going to let you in on a secret when it comes to this land of milk and honey we all call the USA, When coming from Nigeria the first people you happen to stay with upon your arrival will determine 70% of whatever happens to you in this country. If the people are into crime trust me you will be in it too. If they go to school trust me you will go too. If all they do is drive a cab or Uber trust me you will do the same. If they go to church trust me you will too. True