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diordaves:
Sorry, again it depends on the design. As from 15 length of 12 mm rods. If the design includes beaming, the number will change significantly. If cars will drive over it, this will also affect the number.

Do you need d beam if vehicle will not be parked or climbing d soakaway?

shollywendy1:
I buy direct on autoscout24 and ship from belgium( belgo malien) . I have an immediate elder brother that does all the loading and shipping for me.
But that bus is a good machine suitable for our roads

Very very solid machine.. I think this is also from autoscout24 too, i saw it myself and i commisioned lade to inspect /pay/ and ship... Made attempt to sell it once when coro strike and distrupt my plan.. Generally t4 is strong, part full itire... Lucky you have a bro there, its quite expensive now.

Pearl1910:
Guilty conscience...he didn't call anybody's name

Ok, i don like your comment.. Okay?

LilX:
I sent you a mail sir

Apologies sir... Have been advise not to consider a driver from here....Maybe in future that might change, atleast not now..

IFSHR:
Fight a pig in the mud and he will beat you so badly at his home turf and make you more dirtier than you imagined....

Matter turn K leg you come quick turn am to farewell message..

I laugh in Chinese

Oyinbo say if you dey stay glass House no throw stone.

Hmmn, a PIG...... In d Mud... Home turf... Hmmn Ok now i get.. And am glad pig don quickly answer.....farewell message kill u there.. You must assume all of us dey drive kabukabu...

shollywendy1:
Mehn! This bus (vwT4) na machine. Yours is petrol or diesel?

Petrol... Git it from Lade007.... He's reliable.

Felicity0001:
AB*34*F*... Can you see how foolish you're? When i tell you say you're not smart you think say i dey lie... Now see your life?

Anywhere I see thus your corolla I go make sure say I jam am scatter

Fufu... Showing us pictures of April 13, 2020... na so una take dey deceive buyers, will post the first pictures of the car when they first bought it with captions like , first body, engine and gear works perfectly, AC chilling, used by my lasma wife, buy and drive.... but going for physical inspection na scab you go see.

Buy and drive kill you dia!!!

Ki lo n wi....

Felicity0001:
Lol... Funny baby husbando

Yes its a fair deal.

At least this one better pass that orobo bus wey you won give me for 20k per week but you shall no say this corolla na manual o so make we do 35k abeg don't worry about the maintainable and repairs it's on me I'll pay 350k upfront that's for 10months but we go put am for agreement say you no go collect car from my hand in 12months oh. You gree? DM for meet up!

See am! Ole oshi!

I wonder what kind of a driver will be using a stick in Lagos traffic... Abeg how old is the man driving that car because I'm very sure no young boy will take such an offer.

Now now you don quickly see another problem, LAGOS TRAFFIC, manual is meant for old man.. Lol.
No more engagement broda feli. You are completely finish, i mean you are finished completely.... Pls do have a pleasant day, driving and moving lagos.. May you live long to enjoy what you are sowing now...Amen.

Felicity0001:
See this fufu... Is it not you that is always crying like a baby to your wife's breast after driving against traffic? Baby man like you... If not your wife who is a lasma no be hungry for d9n kill you for Lagos? Just imagine this big I.di.ot. greedy man looking for drivers to enslave no wonder your wife always beat you up like a child, you go get drunk and come back to the house asking for food you wife work her ass out in the sun under the rain for just 70k salary to feed your st.u.pid ass...

Jealousy na him dey worry you, h9 and hustle Mr man and stop be8ng envious of hard working people like me who work hard to send their k8ds to school... You think its easy for a taxi driver to have a child in yhe university and others in private school? You will work inside my snickers baby husband no be mouth. You better go get a life rather than chasing me up and down... Ask your cohort wey carry my matter for head like bread where dem dey today? Go.at! No let me change am for you... You that couldn't pay for your wife's CS no be Lagos State government come to your rescue? With task payers money with my inclusive? You now open your guitar mouth to talk rubbish. Ingrate!

For how many years now you're atill looking for driver to drive your dead bus, how will you see when you are asking for 20k daily... 70% revenue... Omo ale... Ole ni a! Wait there that bus go rust away b4 you wake up from your slumber.

Oloshi omo!

Oya felicity, see my manual corolla wey i buy, about 700k then... Up till now, i still dey collect 15k...with d second driver now.... By August 1st, i will increase it to 20k..its still a fair deal, isn't it? But for you feli, i will give you for 12k, unto say you be chairman for association of lazy driver... But you will sign agreement o, you must not travel to edo.. Pull ur self up bro, you're not coherent and nobody cares about the cesspool you have found yourself.....Feli boy wey dey treat malaria with 20k, bandit!

pope191:
Get well soon boss

Get well wetin, you believe he's sick? Person wey wan scam partner this week, abi you know no say time to deliver don reach..

donfortune48:
Apart from Nov/Dec, there have never been a time drivers were grossing over 200k a week.
But there were times drivers were remitting 40k a week on e-hailing.

This year seem to be the highest earnings year on Uber/bolt. And this year is also the yr with least rental fee for partners. (covid period exclusive).

Even Jesusson that was an ant driver here 2yrs ago never made 100k net a week and he was on rental 35k/week. He never made over 20k net per day, yet he was paying 35k/week rent judiciously.

He narrated his earnings here that time. He pays car owner 5k/day and saves 3k/day for himself.

Mind you, a toks corolla was less than 1.5m that time and car parts were far cheaper then to compare with now.

So I really don't know why the hate over car owners now and the inconsiderate attack we're metting on them now.

This is what I wanted to confirm from veteran Gazzuzz. But seems he doesn't want to get involved.

Below is some of Jesusson's posts 2yrs ago. And he was the president of Ants drivers association.

I remember this post from jesusson..Everyday i made 3k for my self and car owner takes 5k.. I take my 3k home but car owner still needs to bring his 5k tomorrow to fix the car... How apt! You have forgotten that you need that 5k to fix d car to make another 3k or 10k or 20k as d case may be.
If Gazzuz, who is a qualified mechanic could sit on d fence as it relate to ehailing biz, you can imagine what others are going tru.... Atleast he will ensure good part, labor to fix any prob on d car will be almost zero, he will do a thorough inspection b4 paying for a car, whether toks or naija used, he's doing his own biz so he has time, he can schedule his time as he deemed fit. Yet, he sold out all his vehicle as at that time because he wasn't making money... One of d reason, as i got to know is Bad driver, like felicity.. You try to help him but village people wont allow.
Felicity only focus on the prob drivers are facing, talks about accident, his wife CS, how he used 20k to buy malaria drugs.. You can imagine! Hoodlum driver using 20k to buy drugs to treat malaria, you think you're talking to idiot like you, is that the lie you told your wife/partner so as not to drop anything this week? How much is coartem? Abi werey ni boy ni? na inside gutter you sleep?

Felicity0001:
Don't mind them later na him go tell person to have an open mind where as he doesn't.

That is just salary alone oooh, other allowances not included o but a taxi driver don't have health insurance, housing allowance, children allowance or what is it call again self, no sick leave (if you fall sick partner will still collect money), no holidays, no accident allowance nothing nothing at all. No pension, no HMO... I've spent over 20k since Monday on medication on myself alone... Kids, wife and parents own no join ooh.

Many companies take care of hospital bills of their workers and maternity bills for their wives even if its a CS they cover for it, how many partners here have ever buy paracetamol for their drivers here let alone hospital bill? What you'll hear them say is, u invite me when u dey enjoy ur wife? Can imagine such a thinking! That's to tell you they're jealous you've a lovely wife who stands by you.

I've seen and heard lot of drivers jad accident that affected them, some can't drive again for life and some even lots their life to hijackers and robbers but you see their partners moving on to another driver even with the car or most of them sell it off. Driver is left to carry his cross all by himself. And one foolish dapotemi who bought a manual car for N700k has the audacity to demand 70% of revenue driver makes... Can you imagine that?!!! See the outright wickedness.

An average uber driver works 10-15hrs daily. He partners with an owner for say 2yrs stretch. Many drivers are here on rental for 1,2,3 years, some with one partner while some with just 2 partners in those 2-3yrs yet the car still doesn't belong to them. Partner has broke even and driver is still paying 25k/30k weekly. Most of them have not been able to buy their own car... No be korope we hear say jesusson dey drive now... Just imagine! This is sb that was paying partner 35k oh... Korope! It is well shall

Again, i had to check where i made submission that partners should get 70% revenue and i found none... Bring it out if you have any, or forever be damn into a bottomless cesspool.....i made you an offer for my bus, pls reach out now, this might be an opportunity for you to be able to be the MAN of your home...Don't go hungry, mama radu wont give you free rice. Oponu ara galatia.
The bus and the blue corolla dey wink for background...

Egbon Feli, in case you want to switch to bus please let me know... I think early last year or thereabout (i will check doc for exact date), i bought a toks VW bus on this platform, from Lade007, he's based in Europe, i saw his numerous advert and i reached out, got the bus and it arrive safely. I have never met Lade007 before, and i parted with almost 2m then. He was true to his word, from day 1, despite few challenges which was not his fault. His integrity is intact...

You know why am saying this to you egbon feli, you are the symbol of failure on this thread, you have failed in almost everything you're known for....Maybe you should try my bus, i will reduce the rent, for the sake of that poor woman wey dey feed you for house. Now i see why you're so mad dru did not pay for your rice...Ebinna...

On Wednesday, i did retrieve my car as i intend doing... It will now go for 35k last, and by december Gods willing, it will be 40k...There is no crime if both partners and driver dey smile, if actually it is partnership..

We acknowledge the situation of thibgs when the period was tough, post covid.. Now everywhere na stew, we must also acknowledge it.. Egbon baby was one of those wey dey like my post then...

dapotemi:
I bought a bankers corolla in Feb 2020, bought it quite cheap as owner was relocating to canada, spent about 20k to put it in good shape, total cost is still less than 700k. I got a driver for it just two weeks ago, and am taking only 15k per week. Please, note that car is manual.
This period is quite tough for ehailing. A friend of mine said hes been working 6am to 7pm everyday, mon to sunday. Highest he has received after ALL DEDUCTION was just about 21k. Please, note the word HIGHEST. I usually huzzle with my car b4 and after work before, but for like a month now, i don stop am; its not worth it for me. It's easy for me to STOP because i still have my salary, many do not have such priviledge..Pls, i encourage PARTNERS to try and be reasonable with their demand this period. #Gracias

Egbon baby , see one of my old post, as u dey dig, i believe you might need this.. Lol

radautoworks:
the Uber model was never designed for rentals. If it was, functions would have been built in the app for transparency to both parties.

Nigerians did what they did best and tried to make more money out of someone's business model and this confusion is the result. Why all these issues? Because owners cannot verify renter trips and have no access to view. Of it was, rental agreements could be based on percentages to make it fair to ask parties but it is not. Why? BECAUSE UBER WAS NOT BUILT FOR THIS.

Uber would never have expected drivers to rent vehicles for this purpose (and in other countries it actually disqualifies you from driving).

Uber would have never expected two drivers to share an account.

Uber would never have expected all the creative saka which is why there are loopholes in the software. They never encountered such.

Uber would have never expected drivers to request themselves which is why in other countries there is no problem with having both driver and today app to my knowledge.

Nigerians did what they do best and shocked the crap out of Uber

All this can be solve only if we have INTEGRITY/HONESTY, which is lacking in most driver/rider. Nigerians always wants to cheat the system...How come almost everything that works perfectly usually becomes an issue once it's introduce here...It's just an integrity issue.
If owners can verify trips, am sure rental would not be this low/poor....How come a driver that comes to a negotiating table with NOTHING, albeit maybe one "power horse" ( a driver said he's offering energy) be talking about taking 70% of earned revenue...They said it's partnership. What kind of partnership offers you, a driver that is contributing zero naira, more than 70% of the revenue, to someone that finance the project 100%, to get maybe 30%. Some of you have tried to explained why it is so; but honestly, it is making sense to you because you are a driver now; hopefully if you cross to the other side, the partner side, it wont make sense again...and that is the DISHONEST part of it.
I still believe no matter the improvement that is made to the app, if you have this same dishonest people, well it might not just work out..

[quote author=IFSHR post=103867893][/quote]Hey, look at someone talking about being CIVIL....not even an insult of any kind to you...Then 48 hour after you're talking about civility. Ori e ti baje.

IFSHR:
The way you guys who claimed to be matured and exposed try to bully felicity is so wrong and unacceptable...

We should learn to deliver our diversified opinions without insults and swearing....just because his opinion is contrary to yours doesn't make him wrong, neither does it make you right.

His opinions doesn't have any control over your business, so why the cursing and insults.

He is not the one who will help you employ drivers, neither is he the one to decide your rent fee for you.

Felicity I will as well advise you pass your point without insult and cursing as well.

Let's try to be civil offline or online

It's very bad and totally uncalled for.

Is this from you or someone is using with your phone? You're advising people not to pass their point without insult? You're also telling us to be civil! Did you see one of your response to me, despite the fact that i never insulted you here. I did not reply you, because it's a waste of time. Let me look for your post again, you hypocritical pig.

Pearl1910:
Depends on how much u make a day, riders purse and Ur negotiating power.

25k a day is fine. At least he will not be moving around throughout the day. So less than 5k fuel.
But if rider is doing delivery job from point to point then 30k. Last

LOL....25K a day, less 5k (i doubt you will use 5k fuel going anywhere in this lagos in a day)! I will just assume 5k...so 20k a day it is.

for 7 days he get 140k abi, then the man that put down 2.5 mil get a whole 25k..What a fair bargain..

So out of every 20k, partner is getting just about 3,500 naira. Did you see the mentality that some of your colleagues are dishing out there?.

Did you see why PDP/APC is treating all of us this way? Did you notice the resemblance between PDP/APC and you guys here?

Slickleo:
Bros pls don't say such to blackbishop. 10x

Okay...you should tell him to choose his words carefully with me....

deedee44:
If you're referring to my own boldness, well I was born with it. And when I was on rentals, I never BEGGED

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Alright bros, make we focus, energy no dey.

Blackbishop:
Bro first you jump through stuff without a sense of understanding.where in my narration did you see analysing with a corolla and specifically used Dru as an example. Cuz almost everybody knows civic is synonymous to Dru
And times without numbers have they specifically highlight the importance of how to Minimise expenses and maximise profit.

Deadbeat business men like you run into lose becuz you fail to read thru the steps of running a business.

Deadbeat biz men!! LOL ...You will still use you second moniker to apologies....as you always do.

I will advice you son, stop using your business handle to throw insult...you will go hungry! Are you not the one that got married just yesterday? You're still a boy and you need to get focus.

deedee44:
Oga employer, with a heavy heart I'm breaking it to you that you are not anybody's employer. If you rent a shop, is the shop owner your employer?
The person driving your car is not your driver, he's your business partner. If you request and coincidentally he's the one that comes to pick you, my brother you're paying for that trip and you may even chop 1 star join.
Please try and read more about rent, let and lease then you will understand that once you give out your property in exchange for money, you have no business with how much the person makes with your property. Your argument is like renting out a shop and telling the person he/she will be paying you 66% of his/her profit monthly because you are the one that spent millions building the shop.

LOL, we no dey see all this boldness when coming to BEG for a car....one that is old enough to be my father was almost prostrating for me the other day...I will tell you a yoruba adage; Ti aja ba jeun yo tan.........
You guys keep using "shop" in your analysis; as if a landlord gives out his key to his house/shop without first getting paid!
Me, am only hoping that i will be paid! A shop owner does not hope!

CheerfulGiver:
I drive my own car. And here's my current weekly earnings. I'll quote you again at the end of today

No police, no lastma, no mechanic, no repairs.

I only added a liter of engine oil cos I realized my oil was short just after 3000 miles from last service.

Look for another name to use for your analysis. I have broken all shackles.

Apologies Cheerfulgiver..I know you drive your own car, a matrix if i can remember.

Yes, i see all the hardwork you put in to achieve this feat. They have accuse you of different thing; saka,shared account etc.

The truth is, because you are open with what most driver have sworn an oath to protect, for reason 's' best known to them.

About 3 month ago, i assist to facilitate a small job for a guy on my street, he's into ehailing and when i told him the salary is just 100k, he rejected it!

I was shock, he finished nysc just last year. He sincerely told me that he makes more money on ehailing and he can only leave for atleast 150k.

Yes, i understand what IFHR was saying, something about CONTRACT, yes we signed a contract and i intend to honor it.

Drivers here should stop pegging rent at 25k as if it is cast in stone, it is worth more than that! You are making money, pay what is fair!

Blackbishop:
Check this out, you have 4 cars on the platform delivering 25k weekly that is 100k per week, as a business man you are not putting your home expenses on it. Per month you have 400k steady and you have up to par cars no weekly wahala.

So according to Dru he only run services and not major repair in 6 months that is 2.4milla. servicing and the minor repairs coat him 300k for the six months on all his cars that is a balance of 2.1milla left.

So as a business man he his making more profit.

Blackbishop, am sorry please you're not making sense. A corrolla is 2.5 mil on the average now. Please, what makes you think there wont be stories from one or two or even all the driver in one month....My driver only deliver for the first 3 weeks before i start getting HUGE stories, same with most of my friend that has cars on the platform. When i was looking for a driver, someone on this platform inform me NEVER to take a driver on this platform, due to stories..Wait, you actually think all this drivers on this thread deliver promptly, without stories? Lol
All the partners that picked drivers from this platform, abeg how many of them ends well, abeg leave story. na today...Ask Dru, ask Gazzuz, ask jpworld, ask carshopper or so..Some are on the fence now. e get why

SHOOPSYN:
Driving is enjoyable but driving for long is not. Especially driving to earn which is different from driving privately. Driving for long have serious underlaying health implications.

Waking up by 4am and getting home by 11pm everyday does have its own HEALTH IMPLICATION. Quit this mentality oga

CheerfulGiver:
Dashboard posters are exceptionally gifted. They're not your average Joe.

The problem you have failed to identify is the problem that some drivers will not meet up even if you give them a brand new car that requires no repair except servicing, for the first 70,000 km

LOL......

northbird:
Do you drive or you are assuming like those who see dashboards.?

Cos without surge, I don't think you can do 40k conveniently in 2 days.

For me, i used to be a driver on the playform b4.. Work schedule will not allow it anymore. I stopped driving over a year ago... Yes, the average i was making then was about 80k to 100k weekly.. At first it was about 60k,then later i got some tips here and it improve to about 80k to 100k weekly, pls note that i reject trips alot.. I drove my car tru out.. I have never paid rental... Assuming am on rental and my daily bread is only from that source, i will make more money, i will drive to ANYWHERE.. Even traveling, i will go because money must be made. Even without seeing those dashboard, i believe ANY driver can and should make atleast 80k net, weekly... So pls, how much should a car owner that handles all repair or all major repairs get from 80k weekly for his investment of 2 million pls?
The answer cannot and should not be 25k, not even 30k sir... If youre saying 25k, then you should drive forever, driving is lucrative then.

As one of the improvement to d app, i wish ehailing company can find a way to alert owners on what was made, week in, week out.. I will leave d offline to you, chop am.
I will want to see, how cheerfulgiver, for instance will go to d owner of his car, and remit 25k, after making 250k. How his face will be like? Dru help me find one meme for that face..

IFSHR:
The aggregate salary of all her employee is more than what she earn....if you want to earn more diversify (the higher the number of car you have on the platform the higher your earning ).

Before she employed you went through interview and you both agreed on a fair remuneration...just like you did with the driver renting your car.....if you think you want more, then call your driver and renegotiate...it's simple and straightforward.

....I ask you again, what do you think is the fair weekly remittance ...

Thank you... Now i will lecture you.. The total salary of ALL staff where i work is just a little above 30 million.. Yes, that is what is paid monthly.. Do you know how much d company makes.. Well, after all deduction (rent/salary/operation/tax/COG/) etc.. My MD still pocket nothing less that a 100 mil. And am very serious.

Car owner should take at least 50% of all earning, after all deduction.. That is fair. Do you see d dashboard and account statement flying around recently? Do you think those guys should be paying 25k weekly?

Let me give you another scenerio... Assuming all earnings goes directly to the owner of d car, and by d end of d week, bolt pays 120k or 80k to d account of d car owner, the way they pay to your account weekly, can you come to d car owner and say oga remove your 25k from that 80k o and help me send d balance.. And you will still add, oga the two front tires no good again, you need to change it..
Let me reply as a car owner - - - - - Abi OLORIBURUKU ni Bobo driver yi ni...
(pls note am not insulting you in any way, just a scenario?