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Tycyborg:So you dont know even the food we eat are not good for our body when we eat too much? it disorganised our digestive system or even might makes us sick... So does that mean we shouldn't eat anymore? One thing is if anything is too much it becomes bad... Smoking is never bad but when it gets too much then it is considered bad... If you mean smoking can kill us then you know how harzadous this country is with smokes and fumes coming from companies and vehicles? It they could have just killed us 5 to 10 years after our birth since smoke is bad. in the village my grandmother uses firewood to cook since she was a little girl and she didn't die. please stop misleading people...if you don't like smoking its okay but don't say its a sin. simple

Enough of the excuses. You would have done well not to include the highlighted in your concluding statements because what I presented was the Bible’s view on the matter. I’m in no way responsible for whether you respect the Bible or follow the counsel found in it so please next time know how to construct your sentences.

I’m still looking for either the OP or any other person to disprove the points I clearly laid earlier, so far it’s only “You’re wrong, You’re wrong” and making up excuses yet absolutely no one could put up a strong logical argument from the Bible that’s why I’ve been ignoring most of the petty comments.

First step is to understand the make up of humans. We are completely physical beings made from the dust of the earth. Genesis 2:7
The Bible refers to a “soul”(Hebrew: nephesh) in the above Scripture as a living and breathing creature, not some metaphysical part of the human being that separates when death occurs.

Our first father, Adam was the first soul created and had the prospect of living forever in the garden of Eden so he was never meant to die if he had obeyed the simple instructions given to him by God. Genesis 2:16-17

But we all know what transpired, Adam sinned and became subject to death(Genesis 3:19) and since we are all his offspring, we also inherited sin and error from him(Psalm 51:5) and became subject to death so that death has not escaped any human since that time. Romans 5:12-14

Since human beings are the souls themselves i.e. physical, breathing creatures, needing food and water for sustenance etc, when humans die as a result of the Adamic sin, we return to the dust of the earth and become nonexistent(Psalm 146:4, Ecclesiastes 9:5-10) as if in a deep sleep that can only be reversed through resurrection(Isaiah 26:19, John 5:28-29, Acts 24:15) meaning that the human soul is not immortal but subject to destruction. Ezekiel 18:4

essenjack:

You're wrong.
"we should
not contaminate our bodies with
harmful substances such as the
above which you mentioned since
they are lead cause of dreadful disease"
one of the reasons i'm smoking marijuana is because of its health function. It actually cured me of a particular diseases since then i've been noticing other health benefits.

Oh really? So I need to also educate you on the harmful effects of carbon monoxide that ones inhales while smoking?

You see, there’s always that point when one is deeply engrossed in a habit to the point that he can’t see beyond his nose and finds excuses for everything.
Well, if you did believe that it was NOT wrong, you wouldn’t have to come to NL to seek validation in the first place. You asked a question seeking answers from a Biblical viewpoint, which was given in simple terms but as they say, “Truth is bitter” and since you would rather favour the lie over the truth and will want others to tell you what you want to hear(2Timothy 4:3,4) there’s no problem but I’m sorry to burst your bubble because the Bible condemns smoking(2Corinthians 7:1) and anyone telling you it’s not wrong deeply hates you from the bottom of his heart. 1John 4:20

essenjack: Please I need a spiritual/Biblical answer to this question, cos in a society like ours, most Christians tends to judge and condemn smokers.
I smoke (only Marijuana) for obvious reason(s) known to me.

From a Biblical standpoint, we are given the admonition to “cleanse ourselves from all filthiness[or defilement] of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.” —2Corinthians 7:1
And so that implies that we should not contaminate our bodies with harmful substances such as the above which you mentioned since they are lead cause of dreadful disease which culminates in death and more importantly, that one who smokes or abuses his body becomes unclean and an unclean person will not inherit God’s Kingdom. Ephesians 5:5

MaxInDHouse:
He thought that will make any sense!
I have met a missionary who left the organization simply because he wasn't appointed as member of the Governing Body. My brother can you imagine i met this man even while i'm yet to get baptized?
After a lengthy chat with him he burst into tears because i made him feel that Jehovah still care for him no matter his condition. That's when he began telling me that his two sons are elders in their respective congregations and one is even the coordinator of his congregation!
The questions i asked him that brought tears out of his eyes:
"Who inculcated the truth in the hearts of your sons?" Deuteronomy 6:7
"Who is now battling to remove what you taught them from their hearts?"
"What do you think about Korah and his sons?"
Then he typed Please stop! stop!! stop!!! you're already making me cry!
My brother even i that has not shed tears ever since i became a soldier burst into tears that very day!

Had it been his children were not spiritually strong on their own(Matthew 13:21), they would have found every reason to leave Jehovah’s organization seeing that their pops who was a full-time servant had not developed resilience in the face of disappointment. That’s why we are ever encouraged to build and nurture our faith personally (Matthew 7:24-27, James 4:8.) and not look at the next person(Galatians 6:4) so that even though our children, father, mother, marriage mate or “best friend” in the congregation leave, we will remain ever steadfast in the truth. Ephesians 6:14

My brother, I shouldn’t even be on this thread so adiós.

Bondatt:

I laugh. If you know who some of us were in the organization and what our "privileges of service" were, you won't even fancy this your show of "wit".

Whether you be RP, MS, elder, CO, Bethelite before you comot, nobody really send so don’t even play that card. After all Korah had privilege of carrying the ark of the Testimony along with the other Kohathites(Numbers 4:4-15) but later become rebellious(Numbers 16:1-3), does it mean that Jehovah is no longer the true God(Deuteronomy 4:39) or did that nullify his covenant with the nation of Israel? Exodus 19:5
Or what of Jesus who personally chose Judas Iscariot to be one of his foremost disciples(Mark 3:14-19) and even received the privilege of handling monetal affairs(John 13:29) but later was driven by greed &betrayed his master(Matthew 26:47), does that mean that Jesus had poor judgment and ceased being the only way to the true God? John 14:6

First of, was it you I quoted that you replied me these three times? Why are you swallowing panadol for another person’s headache?

blueAgent:

That's why you people are jokers, no one takes JW seriously.
If this refers to birthday, then why do the Israelites mourn knowing that the Egyptians that they lived with also mourn the dead?

Because mourning is completely natural and common to all humans regardless of tribe, culture, language. Numbers 20:29, Ecclesiastes 3:4

Question is, what is natural about celebrating your birthday? Don’t you know that there are still ancient civilizations today where they hold feasts and make merry and mourn their dead since those are more like natural feelings common to all humans but never give importance to the day they were born? If the white men who invaded Africa didn’t tell you to place importance on your birthday, would you have cared? Don’t you also know that placing emphasis on your date of birth gives rise to astrology/horoscopes which are forms of spiritism that Satan is currently using to blind the eyes of billions? 2Corinthians 4:4

When you begin to hear someone say that because he or she was born in so-so month, then it means he is either shy, strong or intelligent etc making it look all fun and harmless but we know the real mastermind behind all of such(2Corinthians 2:11, 1Peter 5:8.) and all those engaging in spiritistic practices will never see God’s Kingdom. Galatians 5:19-21

That’s why there are a thousand and one things wrong with birthdays but the joy of downing Isi-ewu with Orijin has blurred your reasoning!

blueAgent:

You are the biggest clown I have ever seen.
You mean if he was not invited he would have gone to Herod birthday?
How does that prove that birthday is wrong?
Was it all wedding feast that Jesus attended?
Except for turning water into wine, the story of Jesus attending a wedding feast would not have been mentioned and false teachers like you will claim it is wrong to have wedding feast.

If weddings meant nothing to Jesus, why did he attend one(John 2:1) and use a similar scenario on a number of occasions in his parables and teachings? Matthew 22:1-14, 25:10, Luke 14:8
Why did Jesus not attend Herod’s birthday party or why did Jesus not make use of birthdays in his illustrations like he did with marriage ceremonies—you cannot even explain why a marriage feast is one of the important facets in Biblical prophecy. Revelation 19:7-9

blueAgent:

Learn to read and understand before commenting.
Like Paul says in Roman 14:6 anyone can regard any day unto God as special be it your birthday or not but what matters is that in all, all Glory should be given only to God.
Romans 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

Wait, I thought Barristter07 dealt severely with this topic of Romans 14:6, even using a Yoruba traditional feast(which I’m not familiar with) as an example? Paul was not referring to God-dishonouring celebrations after all there were many revelries and wild parties held on days set aside by pagans in Paul’s day but he warned Christians never to get involved with them(Romans 13:13) so the point you tried to make with Romans 14:6 is already dead on arrival.

blueAgent:

This guys are jokers.

The references below proves that even the first century Christians who saw Jesus live and direct were also JOKERS so we’re following in their footsteps. 1Corinthians 10:11

“During the Christian era, the early followers of Christ didn’t believe in celebrating birthdays, preferring—as was the case in earlier eras—of honoring one’s death. Their belief was that only in death was there true deliverance worthy of honoring one’s ‘death day’ [a reference to Ecclesiastes 7:1, where Solomon asserts that the day of one’s death is better than the day of one’s birth]. They also believed that Egyptian and Greek birthday celebrations were pagan festivals and should not be duplicated”—(“The Strange Origins of Our Modern Birthday Customs,” August 13, 2008).

“Nay, indeed, the law does not permit us to make festivals at the birth of our children, and
thereby afford occasion of drinking to excess.”—(Josephus. Against Apion, Book II, Chapter 26)

I have one in my office would never join in birthday celebrations see it as sin, but can Bleep anything lockable.
Big time hypocrites.

Please be civilized and stop using profanity because you’re intent on proving a dead point. Go and report to the congregation the person in question associates with and if your claim is found true, let’s see if his actions will be condoned(1Corinthians 6:18) or if he will be disciplined accordingly. 1Corinthians 5:12, Hebrews 12:11

KNOWMORE56:

You cannot provide any scripture where God commanded dancing during weddings just as you cannot see it for birthday celebration.
If the above is not true then prove it wrong.

You want to make your own rules and use them as a standard to judge who? Me?
The first thing you should ask is, when did God ever institute a wedding ceremony? If he did not, then why did Jesus attend a wedding ceremony? John 2:1
Are you telling me that Jesus and his disciples were not aware of Herod’s birthday party? Matthew 14:6
So why weren’t they in attendance seeing that they regularly attended get-togethers? Mark 14:3, Luke 5:29

The scriptures is full of commandment against erecting any thing ( not just calf) and call it god;
and you are asking me to tell you why God was not happy with them?
Again, before they entered the Promised Land, God told them ALL the things that the people of the land were practicing that He hates.
But birthday celebration was not mentioned.
True or false, DappaD?

Leviticus 18:3a
“You must not behave as they do in the land of Egypt”
All the practices the Egyptians engaged in, the Israelites were NOT to imitate including birthdays. Genesis 40:20-22

Since He did not mention birthday celebration, it's either it didn't exist or He did not see anything wrong with it.
Jesus, my Lord and God, did not say anything about it.
Watch tower is digging histories written down by unbelievers as concrete facts that God is not pleased with birthday celebration!

No problem. It was those 8 men in New York who put Genesis 40:20-22 and Mark 6:21-29 in your Bible.

I even heard they withdrew because the ESL do not award points for a draw game.

KNOWMORE56:

You are now using respected historian in place of the scriptures: I don't believe them. I only know that pagans have the duplicate of ALL the practices.

When the Witnesses used Genesis 40:20-22 & Mark 6:21-29, did you listen then?
Many Jewish historians gave credence to the events that occurred during Jesus’ day and during the Acts of the Apostles showing that the Bible is truly inspired by God(2Timothy 3:16) and agreeable with secular history. Romans 15:4
So it is either the first century Christians were wrong for believing birthdays were a pagan practice or it is you who should do some reevaluation.

KNOWMORE56:
Ecclesiastes 3 :1-6 is there for you to read.
My point is, positive happenings and negative happenings are mentioned in the chapter. If you separate them, birthday/ the day to be born will surely be with dancing, rejoicing.
What I'm saying is birthday in the chapter worth a happening that should command dancing, celebration, rejoicing.
I have also told you that the the wedding day dancing that you are so fascinated with does not appear there.
Moreover, you are a Watch tower devotee, watch tower devotees don't believe the scripture but their 8 men.

That’s why I brought up the below which you ignored? Do you think the below was not a happy occasion—a moment to rejoice for those Israelites?

DappaD:
Perhaps you should take a cue from the Israelites who engaged in calf worship(idolatry) and still termed it “a festival to Jehovah”(Exodus 32:5) and even “sat down to eat and drink”(Exodus 32:6) but was God pleased? Did this celebration glorify his name seeing that the practice originated with false worship?
Exodus 32:10

Why did the Jews and Christians think it was such a horrendous practice?

“During the Christian era, the early followers of Christ didn’t believe in celebrating
birthdays, preferring—as was the case in earlier eras—of honoring one’s death. Their belief
was that only in death was there true deliverance worthy of honoring one’s ‘death day’ [a reference to Ecclesiastes 7:1, where Solomon asserts that the day of one’s death is better
than the day of one’s birth]. They also believed that Egyptian and Greek birthday
celebrations were pagan festivals and should not be duplicated”—(“The Strange Origins of Our Modern Birthday Customs,” August 13, 2008).

KNOWMORE56:
[/b]
"...hence does not please God...."[b]
Please can you show where He said that He is not pleased with birthday celebration?

The earlier Christians already had guidelines to follow based on principles found at 1Corinthians 10:20-22 and several others.

“During the Christian era, the early followers of Christ didn’t believe in celebrating
birthdays, preferring—as was the case in earlier eras—of honoring one’s death. Their belief
was that only in death was there true deliverance worthy of honoring one’s ‘death day’ [a reference to Ecclesiastes 7:1, where Solomon asserts that the day of one’s death is better
than the day of one’s birth]. They also believed that Egyptian and Greek birthday
celebrations were pagan festivals and should not be duplicated”— (“The Strange Origins of Our Modern Birthday Customs,” August 13, 2008).


Even a well respected historical writer who was a Jew in the first century attested to birthdays being a pagan custom:

“Nay, indeed, the law does not permit us to make festivals at the birth of our children, and
thereby afford occasion of drinking to excess.”—(Josephus. Against Apion, Book II, Chapter 26)

KNOWMORE56:
Confess your sins to Jesus now.

Okay go and tell the followers of Jesus who saw him live and direct to confess their sins to their master for believing the above?

KNOWMORE56:

It's ok by me if you don't understand that that is what you mean by the statement below:
[/b]"...Besides, Jehovah is the one who ordered the erection of the tabernacle(Exodus chapter 37) and later the temple(2Samuel 7:13..…[b]

KNOWMORE56:

[/b]"...there is absolutely nothing natural [b] about continuously celebrating the day one is born after his birth. In fact, regarding the anguish and..."
A. You showed up here and posted that people are supporting practices that has no scriptural backup;
I then posted that if it is because "it does not have scriptural backup" ( i.e according to your organization ), then your organization is full of practices that have no scriptural backup:
1. Dancing during weddings
2. Painting and perming.
B. You posted that Christmas celebration is associated with false worship.
I posted that if that is the case, your organization should not have been building halls. Because it was started by pagans or associated with false worship ( in your words).1 Chronicles 10: 10; 2 Samuel 7:1-6.
You now posted that "it is natural" to dance during weddings but unnatural to dance during birthday. You have left the idea of scriptural to natural.
Confess your sins to Jesus now and come out of the organization....
Haughtiness is very bad. Humbly apologize for false accusations.

So you cannot prove that birthdays are NOT associated with false worship? For the fact alone that you’re making unnecessary comparisons here and there means you already know it has no Scriptural support so by force by fire you must find a connection between the things that happen naturally to ALL humans and already established pagan celebrations? Again, please quote me ONLY when you have SOLID points else I’ll ignore. I’m not dealing with slow people today.

blueAgent:
No one celebrates the day he was born, rather people thank God that day for making it possible for them to see one year added to their life.
Of course a year in a mans life automatically starts from the day he was born.

However you want to put it, it is not supported by Scripture and was practiced by die-hard pagans. Genesis 40:20-22, Mark 6:21-29

I believe Barristter07 and Janosky have done justice to this subject already—explaining from the Scriptures and accurate historical records that the celebration does not originate with pure worship and hence does not please God so I need not bother myself explaining more.
The way you replied to me, is sort of sending the message that you need a “go-ahead” or an approval from the Witnesses? Okay so if they don’t agree with you, kasala don burst be that? Mark 7:5

KNOWMORE56:

You have already discovered that calling wedding day happy day but birthday sad day spews unsound logic.
Just humbly apologize!

Did God institute marriage or not? Genesis 2:24
Did God’s Son attend a wedding or not? John 2:1

Did God’s Son not know that Herod ruler in Judea was hosting a birthday party where his daughter was a star dancer? If he was, why wasn’t God’s Son in attendance seeing that he regularly attended social gatherings such as weddings(John 2:1) and get-togethers? Mark 14:3, Luke 5:29

The bone of contention is this: Do all “happy” moments please God? Ephesians 5:10
Do you think the below was not a “happy” moment for the idolatrous Israelites?

DappaD:

Perhaps you should take a cue from the Israelites who engaged in calf worship(idolatry) and still termed it “a festival to Jehovah”(Exodus 32:5) and even “sat down to eat and drink”(Exodus 32:6) but was God pleased? Did this celebration glorify his name seeing that the practice originated with false worship?
Exodus 32:10

KNOWMORE56:

[/b]"So what is natural about it? "[b]
The thing that makes people cry when loved ones die is exactly what makes them dance and celebrate when loved ones are born.

Children are a special present from God(Psalm 127:3) so when a child is born, the parents rejoice just as they would when receiving gifts.

But like has been said, there is no Scriptural backup you can give in support of your birthday celebrations instead it’s using unrelated points so that it could be that you gave a word out.

It is a great thing of joy for a year ty be added to ones years. Showing appreciation for one more year added..
You are deceived if you can't show appreciation for one more year added.
Did God command any body to cry/ weep for his dead, and forbade people who dance and rejoice because one more year is added to their years?

The highlighted is where because the line is drawn because it is tied with false worship(Genesis 40:20-22) and there is absolutely nothing natural about continuously celebrating the day one is born after his birth. In fact, regarding the anguish and suffering humans go through(Romans 5:12), it is rightly expected that one curses the day he was born and not rejoice over it(Job 3:1) so again, there is nothing natural about celebrating one’s birth.

I wonder what they were doing there in the first place? Just go dey gum body for where the senior men dey.

KNOWMORE56:

[/b]"When one is in a happy mood such as attending a wedding, it is only natural that the person begins to move his body in a rhythm(dancing) because that is the time apportioned for it(Ecclesiastes 3:4b) "[b]
Wedding should be happy mood but birthday should be sad mood.
The word opposite of mourn is laugh, rejoice, dance.
Ecclesiastes 3:1-6 talks of birth and death; rejoice and mourn. No wedding is mentioned.
Yet your organization said you should not rejoice and dance on birthday but you should do it on wedding day.
You are welcome from Watch tower!
Although there is no place where it's said that wedding day is the time apportioned for dancing.

Please endeavour to quote me when you have solid points. I dislike going round and round in circles especially when the other party constantly spews unsound logic.

KNOWMORE56:

Lol can you correct the lies below:
"[/b]Besides, Jehovah is the one who ordered the erection of the tabernacle(Exodus chapter 37) and later the temple(2Samuel 7:13) even giving specifications about how the temple should be built(1Chronicles 28:9-21" [b]
God and David, who brought the idea of building a Temple?
At what time is Tabernacle = temple?
Canopy and the temple have no comparison.

Please go over my post as carefully as you can and show me where I ever said such a thing.

KNOWMORE56:

Lol. Read these your comment and compare with your guy's, then remove the Watch tower glass from your face:
[/b]"So because there are similarities in the activities of the Israelites and the nations, it now gives one the excuse to carry on in their practices? "
"...pagan use of flowers or garlands did not mean that true worshipers always had to avoid using them"[b]
No record of dancing during weddings in the Word. It is pagans practices, yet your organization are into it.
They can even play and dance to Hiphop music, where is it copy from?

Let me even make things easier for you. We all know there are certain things that come natural to all humans based on conscience and a working brain(Romans 2:14-15) and there are what we’ll term “values” or tradition that varies from culture to culture.
When one is in a happy mood such as attending a wedding, it is only natural that the person begins to move his body in a rhythm(dancing) because that is the time apportioned for it(Ecclesiastes 3:4b) whereas when one is in a sad mood, perhaps a loved one dies, he feels hurt and then mourns the loss of that person since there is also a time apportioned for it. Numbers 20:29, Ecclesiastes 3:4a

Like I said earlier, these kind of things come naturally to all humans but please what is natural about celebrating the day that one was born? I mean, if the white men who invaded Africa didn’t bring their tradition of celebrating birthdays, would anybody have cared to know the day they were born talk more go ahead to celebrate it? So what is natural about it? Job 3:1

Learn how to directly use the Scriptures to support your argument because using adjacent and unrelated points to make an argument means nothing.

MaxInDHouse: Frustration comes when people wants to refute what is obvious or when they are battling to establish what is not true.
These people are ready to kill their God's given conscience as long as you won't approve what they want to do!
The OP won't have any issue with you had it been you just answered his question without quoting the scriptures (judgment) but he's no longer comfortable after seeing how you guys answered his question using the Bible.
If anyone wants to celebrate birthdays there's no problem all we're saying is it's not part of the celebration of God's ancient servants. So if anyone has been practicing it (unknowingly that it's pagan custom) you either stop it as someone that's following the examples of God's servants or continue with it as someone who doesn't care. PERIOD!

It’s them bringing up pagan practices and using it to justify the birthday celebration that amazes me. I never thought some people could stoop so low. Mr KNOWMORE56 is the funniest of them all. He said he didn’t have any problem with those who choose to celebrate their birthdays(to him, it’s no big deal) then he started making up rules about how this birthday celebration should go? Lol? When there’s no directive given anywhere in the Scriptures for such? When in fact such celebrations contain revelries and bring dishonour to God’s name? Romans 13:13, 1Peter 4:3
Even if the Bible said in literal terms that “you SHOULD NOT celebrate your birthday” it wouldn’t matter to the obstinate ones because even delicate matters such as God’s standards on morality and marriage is still a debatable issue amongst them. 1Thessalonians 4:3, Hebrews 13:4
The half brother of Jesus duly noted that if one after knowing the truth, still chose to turn a blind eye, he would be accountable. James 4:17

KNOWMORE56:

I have actually sought for a JW who will volunteer to help me KNOWMORE...if you have come up to help, that's ok...
Below is the submission of one of your fellow:
[/b]"...pagan use of flowers or garlands did not mean that true worshipers always had to avoid using them"[b]
Do you agree with him?

Sorry, what? Was it pagans who created ornamental plants now or Jehovah God? Genesis 2:9
Your points do not have to be this weak and weightless, but I guess I shouldn’t have expected much.

KNOWMORE56: @ DappaD...
Do you know that pagans were the 1st to build houses/halls for their gods before David thought of doing the same?
So can you see that your Jehovah's halls are pagans practices?
*. 1 Samuel 5:2 "KJV:When the Philistines took the ark of God, they brought it into THE HOUSE OF DAGON, and set it by Dagon"
*. 1 Chronicles 10:10 "KJV:And they put his armour in the house of their gods, and fastened his head in THE TEMPLE OF DAGON."
this was before the temple in Jerusalem was built.
So now, what do you say is your reason for not celebrating birthdays and Christmas?
Will you avoid building halls for the same reason?
Watch tower is more or less fault finders, accuser of the brethren:
*. 2 Timothy 3:3 "KJV:Without natural affection, trucebreakers, FALSE ACCUSERS, incontinent, fierce, DESPISERS OF THOSE THAT ARE GOOD,"
*. Revelation 12:10 "KJV:And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for THE ACCUSER OF OUR BRETHREN IS CAST DOWN, which accused them before our God day and night."
Watch tower is cast down, in Jesus name.

So because there are similarities in the activities of the Israelites and the nations, it now gives one the excuse to carry on in their practices?

No nah, the Levites should stand under sun and offer worship to Jehovah because they should not build a house for their own God?

Lol. That’s the weakest stance you can ever take because pure worship was only carried out in Israel and the Law set them aside from the rest of the nations surrounding them. Deuteronomy 4:5-8

Besides, Jehovah is the one who ordered the erection of the tabernacle(Exodus chapter 37) and later the temple(2Samuel 7:13) even giving specifications about how the temple should be built(1Chronicles 28:9-21) so you already lost it completely using this as a point unless you can show where God incorporated birthdays into Israelite’s culture(Leviticus 18:3) or even gave his blessing/approval of any birthday celebration like he did with the temple? 2Chronicles 7:1

KNOWMORE56: I have never celebrated my birthday but I don't condemn those who are doing it (i.e. if no sin is involved).
We are adviced to invite our friends and invite a preacher who will preach to them during the celebration. That way, some souls can be won into the kingdom and Jesus will be glorified No buying/drinking of alcohol, no worldliness of any type. If you know you can't keep to these, better no do am.

There are a lot of other things wrong with your post but I’ll address just the highlighted.

Doesn’t the Bible say that whether we’re eating or drinking, we should do it to God’s glory? 1Corinthians 10:31, Ecclesiastes 2:24
How does engaging in a practice that has so far been proven to originate with false worship give glory to God?

Perhaps you should take a cue from the Israelites who engaged in calf worship(idolatry) and still termed it “a festival to Jehovah”(Exodus 32:5) and even “sat down to eat and drink” (Exodus 32:6) but was God pleased? Did this celebration glorify his name seeing that the practice originated with false worship?
Exodus 32:10

I thought your moniker spoke much about the kind of person you are, that is, being inquisitive and all that. I’m beginning to see that’s not really the case. Because if you indeed wanted to KNOWMORE, you’ll figure out that the Witnesses have been right all along because you cannot mix celebrations associated with false worship(birthday, Christmas, Easter) and true worship since it has never been acceptable from God’s standpoint at any point in history. 2Kings 17:32-34, 2Corinthians 6:14-17

MightySparrow: Reading through the thread needsanwer, is insincere with his question. He is already a JW wanting to peddle his belief.
My take is you are not sincere, your question is and or you are not reasonable.
Wise Nairalanders, pls ignore him.

After all the efforts in trying to subvert and discourage the Bible student failed, of course the next thing to conclude is the highlighted. With the little I know from the responses of needanswer, I can see that his heart is like the fine soil in Jesus’ illustration because he’s actually GETTING THE SENSE of the truth(Matthew 13:23) so whatever anyone says to try to discourage him will not deter him from his goal since Jehovah God himself has made the truth grow in our friend’s heart. 1Corinthians 3:6

I’m not even the first person to notice this. MuttleyLaff even did better than you with his acting.
Kid go play in the sand and leave spiritual things to the mature people. Hebrews 5:14

@truespeak, Dtruthspeaker, since you want to have the final word, fine.

Dtruthspeaker:

DappaD, I have been addressing Living Christ since and I was still working there when I saw your mention.
So I do not know what is going on here neither have I spoken to you!

truespeak:

I am not the Dtruthspeaker, go through my posts if you dare for my personae is reflected in all my posts!
As I said earlier you pick the Scripture that Supports you and Delete/Throw away that which does not Support you
Nonetheless I have answered you and you have not Validly Rebutted!
Thus it is settled!
You cunningly seek to deviate from the issue which I have Already Answered to a Fresh issue not in contention!
Thus the Issue between us is Settled!

Yeah, now run away with your tail between your legs. Next time, check out who you’re talking to first before lashing out so that you avoid this kind of embarrassment next time.

Dtruthspeaker, I know it’s you. You can’t muster the courage to approach me with your normal moniker. Quite sad.

truespeak:

Funny how you take the part of the Scriptures you think supports you but throw away the remainder that Opposes you for even the John 3:16 which you claim Supports you Clearly Stated in 1 John 5:7 that "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one"
So John Does not Support you But Opposes and Slays you!
Thus you fall!

Those words are spurious words added to the Bible because they do not appear in the original Greek manuscripts. Do your own research.
Perhaps you should search up “Johannine Comma” and see that it was an addition by the Latin Vulgate which gradually crept into the King James. Modern Bible translators have noticed this error and the honest ones have excluded it since it was never part of the inspired letters of John.
The Bible’s warning never changes—the one who corrupt God’s word by adding or removing—will not gain everlasting life. Revelation 22:18-19

Also you say John 3:16 Supports your "no Hell Wish" as though the Verse does not continue in 3:18 which says" but he that believeth not is condemned already"
Thus Again Opposing and Slaying you for the Bible All Over, Answers the Question on Where Shall the Condemned be, which I know, you know but you wish to wish on rather than face Reality and Truth!
You may wish on it is your right but if you bring it to the Public we shall verily set it Aright!

For your information, every human being right from Cain til today inherited sin and death from the first man Adam(Romans 5:12) therefore everyone of us is a condemned sinner liable to death. Romans 5:18
Since we are all sinners, the only thing we deserve is death. Romans 6:23

The gist of John 3:16 is this: In order to show justice & mercy to Adam’s offspring who only inherited sin, God had to send another Adam(1Corinthians 15:45) one who is an equivalent of Adam in the person of Jesus to offer his life as a ransom sacrifice(Matthew 20:28) so as to purchase us from under the death-dealing conditions which Adam put us under. Romans 8:21

Only those who exercise faith and obey Jesus Christ will be rewarded with the life that Adam threw away(Genesis 3:19), those who prove stubborn and refuse to acknowledge this lifeline will remain in their sin and die off as condemned sinners that they already are. John 8:21-24
That’s the import of John 3:18.

Funny enough John 3:16 disproves the Trinity and hellfire doctrine at the same time.

needanswer:
You are right, I am satisfied. I am not yet a JW, I believe examine if maybe there was something BETTER elsewhere. That part he said he doesnt know which is not helpful.

I don’t normally comment on these sort of threads but I quietly followed to see what the OP could come up with. Unfortunately it was the same old story. The jwfacts website he’s directing you to, is even owned and run by one who doesn’t believe in either God or the Bible.

Only God’s Kingdom can fix the earth’s environmental problems. Human efforts are futile.