Yet I couldn’t see anywhere from those verses where Jesus commanded anybody to pray to him in order for him to come to the person’s heart. Nancy, I’m sure you must have tried all you could on this to proffer an answer but as it seems, the question I asked still lingers and as it seems, you’ve not given any satisfactory answer.

Whenever people talk about the Lord’s Prayer, it is easy to remember Matthew chapter 6 because the format “Our Father in the heavens, let your name be santified” is found in that Scripture. But now I’m asking where the format of this Sinner’s Prayer where you have to pray for “Jesus to come into your heart” is located in the Scripture. I hope you get now.

Nancy2020:
So you tried fixing the below into the Bible and it didn’t fit? Guess the internet was right that it stemmed from Catholicism and Protestantism then.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Since you want it from the Bible let me compile sinners prayer Bible origin which shows how to accept Jesus, now meditate on this scriptures below.
Romans 3:23).
Luke 13:5).
(1 John 1:10).
Romans 5:12).
Romans 10:10)
Romans 10:9).
John 3:16).
2 Corinthians 5:17).
John 1:12.
Write all this verse down then mediate on them say them out then you shall be saved.
You will receive Jesus by saying those words in the Bible.
Hope this is now acceptable to you.

freshboi88:

Your sense no big pass that of groundnut seed. I ask u question u no answered.
Where were dey answered
Oga provide answer jhoor....u dey use question answer question.
1. Why is Jesus not part of every creature ? Rev 5: 13-14
2. Why does Jesus receive the worship, praise, glory, blessing, honor that is given to Jehovah.
Provide the answer or shut up n wail with your father the devil

Hmm. You asked a question which was answered and you’re still ranting?
Listen kid, you’re not the Author and Finisher of my faith so you can’t dictate how I’m going to answer questions.

See why I said the questions you ask are always non sequitur . Go and look up the meaning of that word. You’re hinging on Revelation 5:13 which says that all creature will bow down to the Lamb means that he is not also a creation? So when the all kings of the nations came to bow down to Solomon, did that imply that he is not a king himself? Psalm 72:11

It’s just a pity that your reasoning is flawed and you have no one to tell you.

According to you, my response is weak yet you couldn’t counter any of the points, instead you had to repeat the questions like a broken record? The questions have been sufficiently answered. All you have to do is bring up a rebuttal. Helloooo, that’s how debates work if you haven’t noticed. It’s also obvious that clear reasoning doesn’t work on you so why bother myself any longer.

freshboi88:

Very weak ! Trying to deviate from the question and drag the conversation to something else
Phyton dancing...hahahaha
You guys are the ones that interpret that to mean that he is created. Trinity teaches that Jesus is God so is not created.
So going by your interpretation and doctrine.
Can u answer the question.
1. Why is Jesus not part of every creature
2. Why is he on the side of the creator receiving blessing, glory, praise and worship that is given to Jehovah
NWT
13 And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and underneath the earth+ and on the sea, and all the things in them, saying: “To the One sitting on the throne+ and to the Lamb+ be the blessing and the honor+ and the glory and the might forever and ever.”+ 14 The four living creatures were saying: “Amen!” and the elders fell down and worshipped.
Until u provide answer, no deviation

The answer is located at Isaiah 55:7 and also at Psalm 73:3-19 & Ecclesiastes 8:12,13 if they do not turn from their wicked ways.

freshboi88:

What did I tell u guys they will dodge the question.
I quoted your own transportation
1. Why is Jesus separated from every creature. Is he not supposed to be part of every creature as u guys teach
2. Why does he receive the same glory, honour, praise, worship, blessing that is given to Jehovah. Your own Bible says so.
These are the questions u are meant to answer not tap dancing and trying to deviate.
Can u provide the answers now

1. What do you mean by this statement? “Is he not supposed to be part of every creature as u guys teach” ?
Has Colossians 1:15 not be sufficient enough for this already?
Jesus being called the firstborn of all creation. is straightforward. It means he is also part of creation. Whereas Jehovah is the only One without a beginning. Psalm 93:2

When God told the Israelites to sanctify the firstborn of the all living things (Numbers 18:15) which included their sons, are we saying that the firstborns of the Israelites are not Israelites themselves? So if Colossians 1:15 calls Jesus the firstborn of every creation, doesn’t it mean that Jesus is also a creation himself?


2. OK then you’ll have to explain to us why God told the Israelites that they would receive praise and honor and glory as they stood out from the nations around them. Deuteronomy 26:19
Does it mean that they now held status of God too since they would receive glory and honor?

freshboi88:

I have made a meal out of the verse. Nd turn it against him with the truth of that scripture. N now his mouth is wide open with flies going in and out as they please

Why do you like to interfere in what doesn’t concern you? Was I talking to or about you?

Barristter07:

Equality is no longer by nature ?
2 Pet 1:4
" by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promises , so that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature "
They wont be humans anymore when this promise is fulfilled, they would posses God's Divine nature. Equality in the book of freshboi88 . God and his creations are now equal right ?

I remember this Scripture in particular used to give that living guy sleepless nights.

No no no I’m going on that rollercoaster with you again, since you’ve shown how uncouth you are in terms of knowledge. We already agreed earlier on this same thread that we’re following two different kinds of Jesus. As regards John 17:23, you claimed the prayer of your own Jesus was never answered and that’s the reason for your UNITY IN DIVERSITY while I claimed the prayer of my own Jesus was answered which resulted in the oneness in thought and teaching amongst Jehovah’s Witnesses. 1Corinthians 1:10, Ephesians 4:3, Philippians 2:2

Funny enough when the Witnesses quote Scriptures to show that Jesus is completely different from God, the Scriptures are clear, straightforward and definitive. BUT whenever you Trinitarians quote Scriptures in support of your doctrine, the meaning of the Scriptures is always vague.

freshboi88:

I love how your own Bible gives u guys away all the time
I think it's time to put an end to this arguement and bury u all once and for all to the glory of Jesus who is God almighty.
I'll use your own perverted scripture the NWT
NWT
Rev 5:13 And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and underneath the earth+ and on the sea, and all the things in them, saying: “To the One sitting on the throne+ and to the Lamb+ be the blessing and the honor+ and the glory and the might forever and ever.”+ 14 The four living creatures were saying: “Amen!” and the elders fell down and worshipped.
Questions that cannot be answered by JW because of their perverted doctrine.
1. Can the JW tell us why is John separates Jesus from every created being ? Isn't Jesus supposed to be part of the created beings worshipping God here according to JW doctrine ?
Pls tell us why !!!!
2. Why is Jesus together with Jehovah receiving the same praise, glory, might, worship, honor that is accorded to Jehovah by every creature that God made.
When you all can answer this...this debate can continue.
Trinitarians in the house let's press them for answers

freshboi88:

MuMu reasoning.
John 14:23 Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.
The ability to abide n dwell in multidues at the same time not only shows that u r a liar but u r a deceiver just like your father satan who u work for.
John 14:23 shows u the Omniscient nature of Jesus. Moses, u or I do not posses these qualities.
Only God Almighty does. Jesus is God Almighty

freshboi88:

See Painment. Jesus is God n there's nothing u or ur father satan can do about it

This boy you well so? You sure you know who you’re replying to? Where and when did I quote you that you mentioned me with this?
Well now that you mentioned me, Yes Jesus is God, just like Moses(Exodus 7:1) and just like you and me(Psalm 82:6) but he is not and never will be the Almighty God! Matthew 27:46, John 17:3, 20:17; Revelation 3:12

freshboi88:

I have answered this. Now it's Gods job to use the truth of the scripture to illuminate your mind through the power and workings of the Holy Spirit

Who are you talking to? Did I mention you?

MaxInDHouse:

Just go through their comments on other threads and try to hold yourself not to say a word because once any of them noticed a JW is around he will alert the others and the next thing is the topic of discussion will eventually change to Jehovah's Witnesses matter!
That's why i always laugh at this so called UNITY IN DIVERSITY, in fact i will always remember freshboi88 for this wonderful idea!

You don’t have to tell me, I’ve done it countless times. There was once I saw shadeyinka and MuttleyLaff some months back seriously arguing on one of these NL threads. Guess what their argument was all about?
Can God talk to himself and send himself to do errands? so you can imagine what Trinity does to the brains of people.

The other day I quietly observed a thread where that self-acclaimed Bishop and Nancy were conversing. Nancy asked him what his thoughts were on idolizing Mary since she’s a Catholic, and then the bishop didn’t want to be straightforward in his answer so he used style dodged the question with long talks. Later, in another thread, he claimed that Catholics were wrong in idolizing dead saints(Mary) in the absence of Nancy

My brother, UNITY IN DIVERSITY is the reigning thing now oo!

Nancy2020:
Pray:
Dear God, I am a sinner and need your forgiveness. I believe that Jesus Christ shed His precious blood and died for my sin. I am willing to change and turn from my sin. I now invite Jesus Christ to come into my heart and life as my personal Savior.
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Should I show you where Bible says if you confess your sin he will forgive you if you admit that you are a sinner he will help you.
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Should I show you where Bible said if you believe Jesus died for you you will be saved.
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Should I show you where Bible said if you confess and Repent God will forgive you.
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Should I show you where Bible said if you declare and accept Jesus he will come to you.
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Those Prayer point each is under the Bible instruction that is the point you did not understand just because they split it up and use normal words does not mean it is not under the Bible instruction.
Try to notice this things when you read it properly.

Okay. So still no Scriptural support for the below? You could simply say you’re satisfied with the popular traditions of men(Isaiah 29:13, Matthew 15:3) I’ll get the hint at once instead of all these.
So you tried fixing the below into the Bible and it didn’t fit? Guess the internet was right that it stemmed from Catholicism and Protestantism then.

Nancy2020:

6)
Pray:
Dear God, I am a sinner and need your forgiveness. I believe that Jesus Christ shed His precious blood and died for my sin. I am willing to change and turn from my sin. I now invite Jesus Christ to come into my heart and life as my personal Savior.

My question is and has always been where the format above appears in the Bible and so far it’s been story and story. When people talk of the Lord’s Prayer, the mind quickly goes to Matthew chapter 6. So now that we’re talking of the Sinner’s Prayer, I need you to show me where it’s stated like the Lord’s Prayer format. Shey you get now?

MaxInDHouse:

The funny thing is when you leave them few of them will disappear as if they no longer exist while the remaining will start arguing, insulting, abusing and cursing one another due to their UNITY IN DIVERSITY!

Wow. Just wow. I think it’s the “Unity in Diversity” that is at work.
Reminds me of the Pharisees and the Sadducees who were always at each other’s throats(Acts 23:7,8.) but would always unite to face Jesus. Matthew 22:34
Nice to know there’s nothing new under the sun. Ecclesiastes 1:9

Nancy2020:
We preach Jesus because there is no church that can save you only Jesus can save you ********************'******************
1)
You want to trust Jesus Christ today! Here's what you must do.
2)
Admit that you are a sinner and that you need God's help.
"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" (Romans 3:23)
"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" (Romans 5:12)
"If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us." (1 John 1:10)
3)
Be willing to change your mind and turn from your sin (repent).
Jesus said: "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." (Luke 13:5)
4)
Believe that Jesus Christ died for you, was buried, and rose from the dead.
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)
"But God commends his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners. Christ died for us." (Romans 5:8 )
"If you shall confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." (Romans 10:9)
5)
Through prayer, invite Jesus into your heart to become your personal Lord and Savior.
"For with the heart (core being) man believes unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." (Romans 10:10)
"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." (Romans 10:13)

6)
Pray:
Dear God, I am a sinner and need your forgiveness. I believe that Jesus Christ shed His precious blood and died for my sin. I am willing to change and turn from my sin. I now invite Jesus Christ to come into my heart and life as my personal Savior.

In Jesus name
Amen
"But as many as received him, to them He gave power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name:" (John 1:12)
"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new" [new life begins]. (2 Corinthians 5:17)
Say this prayer publicly here
Then watch God to begin his work in your life
Don't worry about a specific church to go to he will direct you on what to do
The holy spirit will begin to speak to you and teach you what to do
The one who knows all things he is ever present to guide you
It not by power or might but by my spirit says the lord
If you are really serious in knowing him then watch it happen miraculously
That is the kind of God we worship
Glory to God
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Interestingly, the highlighted was my only interest out of your entire post. So where is the point number 6 mentioned in the Bible? Because from the looks of it, there was no Scripture you used to back up the point. Why is that so?

Good afternoon am doing good hope you are doing well too.
You make me laugh you are asking me for the JW who said that when you your self refused to accept that Jesus is the Savior lol lol
If I ask another JW that knows Bible he will probably tell me to show him the JW that refuses to say Jesus is the Savior. Lol you guys jump from one denial to another no problem I love that God gave us the Bible rather than allowing us to believe group twisting it.
Tb above is the lord prayer that saves sinners.

Hmm. Why do you have a problem with mentioning the JW who said that we are the angels doing harvest? Or you lied?

Haba. Up to 7 people at once.
Barristter07 you get beef with all these people so? because when freshboi88 was getting his butt whooped, none of his friends came to bail him out so I’m shocked why they’re all after you like this.

DappaD:
Barristter07 handling four people at a time.
I doff cap for this boss!

Nancy2020:
if you were wise you would ask me to show you sinners prayer in the Bible even though it is called accepting Jesus as your Savior declaration.
Bishopkingsley already stated the outline on one of his post I won't bother to search scriptures I would just copy them from his post and show it to you because all the chapters are in the Bible each step in the Bible.
So stop arguing about it when there is evidence.
Saying you did not see the evidence in the Bible shows you don't read Bible or you read it out of context.

Hello Nancy, I trust you’re doing good this fine afternoon! We’re still on this? Okay let’s get this ironed out. In what Scripture does the “Sinner’s Prayer” have its basis? Google would have it that it originated from Protestantism and Catholicism. But since you know better let’s hear from you.

One guy here said JW says they are the angels Jesus talked about that will reap the harvest.
That sick way of interpretation of the Holy Bible.
But it how they taught you people that why you won't know accepting Jesus prayer when you see it in the Bible.

Really?! What is the name of this JW and what Scripture did he quote to explain what he said? Could it be that you misunderstood what he said?

Don’t you think creating a thread with a particular topic/question in mind would be more effective to get the attention of people?

Barristter07 handling four people at a time.
I doff cap for this boss!

Nancy2020:
there is no reverend or man of God that will tell you that you must place hand on your chest you can stay in any position and make those declaration of accepting Jesus as your lord God and Savior.
That is the main point and the prayer to make is in the Bible.
That is another point. It is stated in the Bible what you must do to be saved.
So are you going to say what to say and do to receive Jesus is not in the Bible.
So I can show it to you.
There are steps written down that you must do and believe.

Wahala it’s like you don’t know what the “Sinner’s Prayer” is all about? That’s the problem I normally do have with some people, you discuss with them and your IQ points keep reducing. Bible kwa you don’t know, even your traditions too you still don’t know. Funny enough when I searched on Google, no place was it based on Scripture. So it even has roots in Protestantism and Catholicism, not the Bible!

The outline to following Jesus was already stated at Matthew 16:24.

Nancy2020:
you said
Even the infamous “Sinner’s Prayer” has no basis in Scripture
If I show you those sinners prayer scripture place will you believe Jesus is your Savior.

Miss/Mrs Nancy2020, I’ve read and studied the Bible in-toto so I already know there’s no place in the Bible where Jesus said that you must place hand on your chest and recite an anthem that he should come into your heart. The points I made earlier are solidly based in the Scriptures, too bad you can’t refute any.

Nancy2020:
to agree to accept Jesus means to take Jesus as your only lord almighty and your Savior, it is not about comparing Jehovah's Witnesses Organization with Jesus that is an insult, you said JW is the group that can save you that is evil, Jesus is the one who can save you.
Until you accept him before you can have everlasting life.
And you must accept the holy spirit is not only just a force he is a person who speaks and gives advice etc.
The way to know cult they will tell you to check John 76:5
That in there that JW is the only way they won't even write down what that place says because they don't want you to know that it has no meaning to what they want to relay across.

Hmm wahala dey. So I quoted John 76:5 for you on this thread? First, it was Matthew 88:77-78, Nawa oh! Nothing man no go see.

The rest of your post is hogwash.
To you, accepting Jesus means placing hand on your chest and then deceiving yourself afterward to do “good”. Even the infamous “Sinner’s Prayer” has no basis in Scripture so the first sentences of your comment make no sense to me. It’s more funnier how you can’t quote Scriptures to back up your stand!

Meanwhile according to Jesus, accepting him means what he said Matthew 16:24
“If anyone wants to come after me, let him 1. disown himself and 2. pick up his torture stake and 3. keep following me”

Let’s consider each point in his statement.

1. TO DISOWN ONESELF means to submerge one’s personal desire, motives, thinking, goals, ambition and live instead for the one(Jesus) who died and was raised up by God. 2Corinthians 5:15
So in that event, the person’s whole thinking process changes and makes the doing of God’s will the most important thing in his life. Matthew 6:33

2. TO PICK UP ONE’S TORTURE STAKE mean that the person who plans on becoming Jesus’ disciple should be ready to face fierce opposition, persecution, scourging and death on account of being Jesus’ disciple(Matthew 16:25) but he should rejoice that his reward awaits him as he successfully endures to the end. Matthew 24:13

3. TO KEEP FOLLOWING JESUS means to continue following in his footsteps as Jesus becomes the person’s role model(1Peter 2:21) and he also continues observing Jesus’ commandments, keeps on heeding the instructions from his Master/Commander as a soldier of Christ, no matter how difficult it seems to be. 2Timothy 2:3

Who amongst you knows this and lives up to it? Your guess is as good as mine, NONE OF YOU. That’s why I said your version of accepting Jesus is only in your mouth, it can’t be seen from your works. Luke 6:46
Meanwhile, Jehovah’s Witnesses are doing excellently in this regard.

Nancy2020:
the same way God sent Jesus that is how he sent me to tell you that your Jw organization is from the devil.
That the new spiritual Ark in these last days
Is Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Only those who are in Jesus will have eternal life.
If you don't Repent and accept Jesus it will be too late for you when he comes back on the last day.

You’re just too funny, ma’am Nancy! How do you accept Jesus without obeying Jesus’ commandments then? John 14:15

Are Jehovah’s Witnesses OBEYING the commandments of Jesus?

1. To love Jehovah their God with their whole heart, whole soul and whole strength? Matthew 22:37

2. To preach and teach about God’s Kingdom(Matthew 10:11-13, 24:14) just like he(Jesus) did? Luke 4:43

3. To love their brothers and sisters more than their own physical family(Matthew 12:46-50) to the point that outsiders will confess that they love themselves too much? John 13:34-35

4. To be no part of the world by remaining neutral in the face of political and social issues(John 17:14-16) and instead advocate solely for God’s Kingdom? Daniel 2:44, Matthew 6:10, John 18:36

5. To treat all of God’s inspired Word as truth and not neglect any part of it? John 17:17

6. To refrain from using carnal weapons to resolve issues and refusing to participate in war? Matthew 26:52, Isaiah 2:2-4

7. To maintain a fine conduct before the eyes of many to the point that some will say “Jehovah’s Witnesses are the best set of Christians!” ? Matthew 5:13-16

How does either your church or you match up to any of these?
Who are the ones who have accepted Jesus with their actions instead of mouth? Luke 6:46
My best bet is on the Witnesses.

Titus 1:16 says that many claim to publicly know God, but they have disowned him by their works so if you’re accepting Jesus with nothing to show for it you’re in serious wahala. John 15:8

Nancy2020:
this is the question I asked you.
From the new convent Jehovah said which is the the new testaments Bible, who can save you?
But since you are afraid to say Jesus or since you don't like to pay honour to Jesus no problem.
Bible already told me the spirit of those who don't like to acknowledge what Jesus did the spirit they carry in them.
Now just like achorladey said, Both you and MaxInDHouse didn't bother to choose Jehovah’s organization. Dem Don throw Jehovah’s organization under the trailer.
Am so happy that you DappaD, have accepted that Jehovah's Witnesses organization is not our Savior.
Saying Jehovah is the Savior is truth but we that know who this Jehovah is already known he is one with Jesus that is why you see him as a man, the scriptures saying in many places just like Bishopkingsley pointed out, you see every Apostles of Jesus saying, Jesus Christ of Nazareth is the Savior.
Thanks for accepting that Jehovah's Witnesses Organization is not our Savior it is not easy to say the truth in this life.

Point of correction. I came to the conclusion long ago that the organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses are the only group of persons doing God’s will and it’s only those who are doing God’s will who are going to inherit everlasting life. 1John 2:17

You thought anybody could be saved in Noah’s day if they didn’t enter the Ark he built? I’m already 100000% convinced that the organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses are the new spiritual Ark in these last days(1Peter 3:21) The time left is greatly reduced(1Corinthians 7:29) and the reason we are even speaking to you is because now is the day of salvation for all to come to Jehovah’s mountain. 2Corinthians 6:2
The time you won’t see us again is fast approaching during the great tribulation when people will seek us to preach or talk to them but it won’t happen. Ezekiel 7:26
So just how it occurred in Noah’s day, that’s how it will occur in the nearest future. Luke 17:26-30

Nancy2020:
no matter how much you try to twist it like they say JW lov to do.
Let see what Jehovah want after Israel were misbehaving and after the blood of animals was not doing the work well.
Now if you continue to say that animals blood was better than Jesus blood then I would know how evil your heart is.
Jeremiah 31:31
“The days are coming,” declares the LORD, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah.
“The day is coming,” says the Jehovah, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and Judah.
“Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah,
Now if Jehovah can say this things that simply show which Bible among the two is on the better promise and which blood is the real covenant hinged on.
Next question.
From the new convent Jehovah said which is the the new testaments Bible, who can save you.

Thank you for your input but you mean to tell me you didn’t see this part in my post?

DappaD:

New/Old testaments as in you mean the two parts of the Bible or the old covenant God made with the nation of Israel or the new one he made with the anointed Christians?

Now if it’s about the old/new covenant, that’s a different ball game altogether but the rest assured that the introduction of the new covenant doesn’t render the Law given to the Israelites worthless, after all Paul said the Law was righteous and holy(Romans 7:12), only that we are not under obligation to carry with the same worship procedure as the ancient Israelites did(Romans 10:4) nevertheless there is a lot to learn from the Hebrew Scriptures(Old Testament) 1Corinthians 10:11
Since it forms part of God’s inspired Word. 2Timothy 3:16-17

When talking about the covenant God had with fleshly Israel(Exodus 19:5) and the one he now has with the spiritual Israel of God(Romans 9:6-8, Galatians 6:16) that’s a totally different topic!

GardenOfGod:
[s][/s]

Take up the challenge.... Yes or No?

I have more productive things to do, thank you.

GardenOfGod:

My runaway DappaD.... Are you aware that New World Translation and New World Greek-English Interlinear Translation clearly teaches that JESUS IS your JEHOVAH?



WHO WILL CHALLENGE The GardenOfGod?
I will create a new thread for the fresh scriptural challenge.

Meanwhile this was what this one said earlier.

GardenOfGod:

So it is for your own soul's sake to adhere to the advice of Paul to Timothy and Titus... Avoid them!

GardenOfGod:
You people are wasting your time arguing with non existent organisation.

Why are you not heeding Paul’s advise to avoid them? So you mean to tell you that you’re about to waste your time creating a new thread and arguing with what you called a non existent organization ?
If you cannot keep to your own words, then why should anyone take you seriously?

Nancy2020:
I have two questions for you.
(1)Is Jehovah the father of Jesus.
(2)the new testaments and the old testament which is more powerful which is the one Jehovah said is the current covenant Bible.

1. Yes! Jehovah is the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. John 20:17, 2Corinthians 1:3,4, 1Peter 1:3,4
Jehovah is referred to as the living God(Jeremiah 10:10) while Jesus is referred to as the Son of the living God. Matthew 16:16


2. New/Old testaments as in you mean the two parts of the Bible or the old covenant God made with the nation of Israel or the new one he made with the anointed Christians?
I guess you mean the former and well in that case, none is superior to the other, the entire 66Books of the Bible was produced as a result of God’s holy spirit. 2Timothy 3:16, 2Peter 1:19-21

This is what Romans 15:4 says on this matter.
“For all the things that were written beforehand[in the Old Testament] were written for our instruction, so that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope.”

Surely without the Old Testament, the New Testament would not have come into existence from what Paul is saying because the Law and the Prophets led the Jews to the Christ. Galatians 3:24

So once you begin to cherry pick parts of the Bible to apply in your life, it simply means you want to grieve God’s holy spirit(Ephesians 4:30) which is a serious sin. Matthew 12:31,32

freshboi88:

Shameless lots. You see u cannot answer the question.
So does honoring anyone on earth equate to honoring Jehovah.....

Your question is what we’ll call a non sequitur because it makes no sense and doesn’t follow the way of reasoning in this discussion.
The question was, you can honor someone you don’t worship, but can you worship someone you don’t honor? Only requires yes or no.

freshboi88:

So just one question to throw your logic inside the dustbin
Does the honor of my earthly father and mother and king equal honoring Jehovah?

The boy still hasn’t gone to hide his face after the way he embarrassed himself here? Well it is a fact that one can honor someone he doesn’t worship, like one’s parents, the authority etc. Ephesians 6:1, 1Peter 2:13
But one CANNOT worship someone he doesn’t honor and that’s where Jehovah is the only exception. Revelation 4:11
Or can you worship someone you don’t honor? I guess not. But you can honor someone you don’t worship.
That’s the secret behind the John 5:23 you’ve been quoting since.

Nancy2020:
if I ask you what must I do to be saved that is a different question from who can save you. Trying to play smart is nonsense. Even at the end MaxInDHouse refused to accept Jesus can save him do you know what he did he moved to old testament which Paul said is a shadow of things to come and he said Jehovah can save you. I accepted that and he was shocked I told him why Jehovah and Jesus can save you he began to wail.

Apart from my brother Max, two other hobnockers replied to my comment but I chose to reply to you because I’ve seen you’re been caught in the crossfire between truth and falsehood.

Jehovah is the only one who can save those who search for him and do his will. Isaiah 43:11, Zephaniah 2:3, 1John 2:17
That’s why you must exercise faith in Him first before his Son. John 14:1

Anything other than that, I’m sorry Jehovah and his Son have no business with you.

Nancy2020:
my friend even if you read Bible each second and the foundation of the Bible you read is from the pit of hell how can you understand what God is saying. There are multiple proves each day about how they twist your Bible.
God say in revelation don't add don't remove.
That is why you read the wrong thing and end up believing the wrong thing.
That is why you don't believe God is on earth.
That is why you don't believe holy spirit is a person who can speak that is why you don't believe in Jesus.
MaxInDHouse say Jesus can't save any one. If he had said what was in the Bible I would have believed in his message but lying against Jehovah many times shows JW is indeed a cult.

According to Jesus, the only way to salvation is to exercise faith in him and obey his commandments. John 3:16,36
So can Jesus save those his fleshly brothers who refused to put faith in him? John 7:5

Nancy2020:
if you have brains then Google will help you with the biggest church population. Like I said your Jw can't match us in the daily baptism if that is your vain mark.

The same person who was of the opinion that mentioning the name of one’s church is “childish”. Please what is the name of that church? I asked you earlier you didn’t favour me a response.
Note that a 1,000 of your church members cannot stand the efficacy of just 1 baptized Jehovah’s Witness.