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DappaD:
Been following for a while and at this point I think it’s clear OP just wants to deceive himself even after seeing his error, that’s why he’s refusing to highlight the definite article “ho” in the screenshot of Matthew 22:32 he’s been pasting everywhere. Should someone lecture the OP on what a definite article means?
It’s pretty clear and simple. Once there is a definite article ‘ho’ or ‘ton’, you know it’s referring only to a distinct person meanwhile the absence of it shows the wide range of persons who could answer that title/name.
“ho Theos” = “ton Theon” = “the God” = JEHOVAH, which appears at the Matthew 22:32 and John 14:1
Whereas the absence of the definite article in John 1:1c already tells you that Logos is NOT the same person as “ton Theon” in John 1:1b. There are also no definite articles at Exodus 7:1 and John 10:34 which further buttresses the point that Jesus is not the true God whom he prayed to at John 17:3.

Unless OP can show us the definite article “ho” or “ton” that appears before “theos” in John 1:1c before we’ll agree that he knows what he’s saying.

DappaD:
Been following for a while and at this point I think it’s clear OP just wants to deceive himself even after seeing his error, that’s why he’s refusing to highlight the definite article “ho” in the screenshot of Matthew 22:32 he’s been pasting everywhere. Should someone lecture the OP on what a definite article means?
It’s pretty clear and simple. Once there is a definite article ‘ho’ or ‘ton’, you know it’s referring only to a distinct person meanwhile the absence of it shows the wide range of persons who could answer that title/name.
“ho Theos” = “ton Theon” = “the God” = JEHOVAH, which appears at the Matthew 22:32 and John 14:1
Whereas the absence of the definite article in John 1:1c already tells you that Logos is NOT the same person as “ton Theon” in John 1:1b. There are also no definite articles at Exodus 7:1 and John 10:34 which further buttresses the point that Jesus is not the true God whom he prayed to at John 17:3.

Unless OP can show us the definite article “ho” or “ton” that appears before “theos” in John 1:1c before we’ll agree that he knows what he’s saying.

MaxInDHouse:

My brother i'm just catching fun with this misinformed churchgoers.
I can imagine the looks on their faces as i'm hitting them hard with the scriptures and backing it up with living evidence while they're all arguing blindly on letters they can't put to use!
My brother it's really exciting fighting more than ten persons at once and all of them are languishing in torment as they can't PRESENT what exactly they're accusing JWs for!
The OP say JWs hate Jesus but so far so good it's like only JWs can substantiate with action what Jesus said in the Bible!

Vickyvice:
yes. Myself. If you read Bible, you will know they are d only ones studying it, while d rest are false religion and they know it, that's y mentioning anything Jehovah witness scares them

MaxInDHouse:
Please i have a question!
Could this be the same multitude mentioned here?
And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare to THOSE WHO DWELL ON THE EARTH, to every nation and tribe and tongue and people.
Revelations 14:6

Thank you all for your contributions and this is where we will draw the curtain as regards the topic since the riddle has been solved.

DappaD:
Getting to find out the identity of this “great multitude”, involves knowing where they are located. Revelation 7:9,15 mentions they are stationed before the throne of God. Does that mean they are in heaven? Evidence from within the Bible shows this is not so. Isaiah 66:1a says, “Thus saith Jehovah, Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool:”—American Standard Version.
Normally, we all know what a throne and footstool are. But notice that God said that the earth is his footstool? And where is the footstool located? Before the throne of course!
https://www.smp.org/size/files/c490c524b684a9c1129bc49b3ff28a8d/Isa66_1_ThroneFootstool.jpg.540x.jpg
Hence, the “great multitude” standing before the throne means they are on earth, which is God’s footstool.

Next is to find out whether these group of persons are really humans or whether they are spirit beings, because being on earth is not enough to deduce whether they are humans or spirit beings.

Kayberg:
So, your error here, the Bible said they were before the throne of GOD, not in HIS footstool.
Take note.

DappaD:

Normally, we all know what a throne and footstool are. But notice that God said that the earth is his footstool? And where is the footstool located? Before the throne of course!

https://www.smp.org/size/files/c490c524b684a9c1129bc49b3ff28a8d/Isa66_1_ThroneFootstool.jpg.540x.jpg

Kayberg:
Those who came out of the great tribulation are those who went through it, but held their faith still.
The reason for you not to believe that this world will be no more is because you think it is too large for GOD to terminate it.
Have you not read that GOD created all things, and for 'HIS pleasure they are, and were created?'
Now, what do you think will happen to the earth if the pleasure of sustaining it is no longer in GOD, since He had created a new one?
Is this earth clean before you?
Is this earth clean before GOD?
Was there no seas on this earth?
Will the seas be dried up?
Will GOD return all souls back to this world after resurrection?

MaxInDHouse:
Over to you brother DappaD!

Your return visit!

MaxInDHouse:

I noticed that you said nothing about the HEAVEN that will also be DESTROYED by FIRE, but keep emphasizing on EARTH whereas both were mentioned together for destruction!
So where will God, Jesus, angels and all those that followed Jesus to heaven be by then? John 14:1-4
Please can you expatiate on these Bible verses?
Psalms 37:9-11
Proverbs 2:20-22
And
Do not love either the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him; because everything in the world—the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the showy display of one’s means of life—does not originate with the Father, but originates with the world. Furthermore, the world is passing away and so is its desire, but the one who does the will of God remains forever. 1John 2:15-17

Kayberg:
JW's lies and misconceptions.
Read the Bible and understand before you go out to teach, else you'd have nothing to teach other than self conceived doctrines and heresies.
If the great multitude came out of the great tribulation which they had in the world, why would they be returned to the same world which will be melted according to:
“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.”
— 2 Peter 3:10 (KJV)
and;
“And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.”
— Revelation 20:11 (KJV)
If you really love this world that much as to always return or remain on it, will you call the LORD JESUS CHRIST a liar for always saying, "Heaven and earth shall pass away…."?
Or have you had your pages of Revelation 21 removed or torn off your Bible?
Just a tip, says,:
Revelation 21 (KJV)¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
¹ And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
² And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Come on!
Stop these heresies already.
It's annoying.

MaxInDHouse:
Please i have a question!
Could this be the same multitude mentioned here?
And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare to THOSE WHO DWELL ON THE EARTH, to every nation and tribe and tongue and people.
Revelations 14:6

DappaD:
Getting to find out the identity of this “great multitude”, involves knowing where they are located. Revelation 7:9,15 mentions they are stationed before the throne of God. Does that mean they are in heaven? Evidence from within the Bible shows this is not so. Isaiah 66:1a says, “Thus saith Jehovah, Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool:”—American Standard Version.
Normally, we all know what a throne and footstool are. But notice that God said that the earth is his footstool? And where is the footstool located? Before the throne of course!
https://www.smp.org/size/files/c490c524b684a9c1129bc49b3ff28a8d/Isa66_1_ThroneFootstool.jpg.540x.jpg
Hence, the “great multitude” standing before the throne means they are on earth, which is God’s footstool.

Next is to find out whether these group of persons are really humans or whether they are spirit beings, because being on earth is not enough to deduce whether they are humans or spirit beings.

1Sharon:
So God wants Nigeria to remain a ----hole ?

MadeINchenzen2:
Leaving them to sort themselves out while he minds his business.

MaxInDHouse:
So quote the book we both agree upon not the one you yourself called a fabrication!

MaxInDHouse:
Just try to be patient and keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

MaxInDHouse:
Good morning brother!
I'm just tormenting [redacted] with that question.
Do you know why?
I remembered how the Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis in the first century kept criticizing Jesus' work up and down, then they confronted him openly regarding the authority backing him to set standards {Mark 11:27} this is what [redacted] has been doing since criticizing the GB over the authority they have to set standards for those under them.
Jesus asked those critics a very dicey question.
Everyone (including this critics) knew John the baptist who baptized Jesus and told people publicly that Jesus is the Lamb of God who will take away the sin of the world {John 1:29} so Jesus asked the critics what they think about John the baptist, who sent him? Is he from God or from men? {Mark 11:30} just as i'm asking [redacted] if he is a worshiper of the same God backing JWs work.
But it's so shocking that those first century critics were far much more intelligent than 21th century critics like [redacted]!
Before responding to Jesus' dicey question they thought within themselves that it will not make any sense if they should say all the good works people saw John doing is from men neither can they say God sent him because if they say he's from God Jesus will ask them "why don't you believe (trust) what he said about me?" So they came back and told Jesus "we don't know" Mark 11:31-33}
[redacted] stupidly said he is worshiping the same God that's backing up JWs activities yet he's always the first person to criticize them publicly.
Isn't that preposterous?
cc Splinz

livingchrist:
It is my duty to present the truth to those in false religion like Jehovah witnesses so they escape the trap of the devil.