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Ok, the batton just passed from Abozola to Olabowale.
Few Q for u tho:
Was God limited. as u claimed when Ur Quran or u moslems claim that the Bible which is the word of God is corrupted?
As in, God DID NOT have the power to protect the Bible.
Or He GROWS in power hence He cudnt protect the Bible from corruption but OVERTIME has grown in power
to protect Quran?/
U r the one who limits God or even ur Allah.
Cos u try to mentally figure him out and limit His operation to only what ur finit mind can handle.
And the finite minds of ur teachers of comparative religion gathering tryin to box an infinite God.

U talked bout KA BI o Ko Si in yoruba. Doesnt that mean u cant Q God?
So if God says the way to salvation if by sendin Jesus, y Q him?
If he say Today hav i begoten thee, referin to Jesus, who r to to Q the Kabio ko si?
U contradict urself ma friend.

Lastly if i may ask, what part of the Bible is Corrupted?
Cos u ket sayn Paul this Paul that? Is ur issues with d epistles od paul?
Majority of u agree that the old testament is the word of God , so i need an answer here.
oNe

uplawal:
WHY ARE U WATCHING,PLS, WE DNT WORSHIP THE SAME GOD,you worship THREE WHILE WE WORSHIP ONE,also,one of yours died 2000yrs ago,just the remaining two working for you now,and mostly you invoke the spirit of the dead god too thereby not allowing it to rest peacefully

Abuzola  1:
[b]Thank you my sister, [/b]don't want to play us wayo, muslims ain't fool

Abuzola,
have seen quite a number of your post.
Initially i tot u were interested in true Discussion, but i'v niticed u on an onslaught.
Deliberately psting provokin topic and subjects to cause chaos, guess u get the kicks from it.
If u were a christian and u post the sort of blasphemies u posted bout Jesus christ and  christianity
about Mohammed or islam u kno the kind of fiery jihadist indignation u wuldda got from moslems.

U aint searchin for knowledge, u r all out to xpose how contradictorily ignorant u are and to make public
how far ur self delusion and brainwash has gone.
Just look at how u just seconded sm1 who said Jesus died 2000yrs ago, claimin u aint fools
but how eva provin u r indeed one cos u'v always said He didnt even die?
Now this is the last time i'll ask u-
It's e'rthin' ok wit u? Hope all is well wit u oo.
cos at this rate u goin, hmmmmmnn-------
oNe

Now to the question:
why do we suffer for Adam &Eve's sin, with the view of the quote
According to the book of Deuteronomy 24: 16 Which says. .

The fathers shall not be put ot death for the children,
neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers;
every man shall be put to death for his own sin. .
Lemme try and give u an example tho very pedestian:
the head of state/president aligns with or signs anythin that culd bring sanctions,
tho he signed it but we'l all pay for his error, even tho we did not sign.
Adam was like a fedral head of humanity so d result of his action will be felt by all.
That is one part.
Now there is individual responsibility, so if u as an individual traffic drug, U will be prosecuted, not the state u r from but U
the government of d country wont try Nigeria, or because of that deny ur brother or sister visa but U d drug trafficker.
But Christ has redemmed us from that curse becos he just like adam came in a representative capacity, the reason he was
called The 2Nd Adam,d life giving spirit.

VIOLENCE: yea, there has been religoius war from different religions. Pple go to war when emotion rises and they anger or sth.
Most politically and control motivated, but that has changed for some religions. While some are waxin stronger propelled by the absordity of a fantasy promise.
PPle fite always for different reason, but when u support ur mayhem or ur killing is backed by ur religious book, i hav issues with that.

Abuzola 1:
jesus never intend to die, look how he was troubled and prayed to God to remove the cup of crucifiction,
'Then jesus went with them to a place called Gethsemane and he said to his disciples,'sit here while i go wonder and pray' and taking with him peter and two sons of Zebedee , he began to be sorrowful and troubled.
Then he said to them,'my soul is sorrowful even to death,
remain here and watch with me.
And going a little further he fell on his face (like the muslim do) and prayed,'my father if this is possible, remove this cup pass from me, nevertheless not as i will but as thou will'

mathew 26:36-39

because he knew what it was all about, he knew the prophesy concernin his redemptive work.
He understood d enormous burden and sorrow unto death the experience will be. Takin the sin
of humanity upon oneself is the only thing that can make him be so troubled, it aint easy and he admitted it.
BUT, ABUZOLA
here u go again quotin d scripture, but earlier u said he didnt even die!
Cos further in d book u quoted his death, burial and resurection was documented.
So dont u think u r sooooo distorted and fragmented in ur understanding??
So i ask again hope all is well wit u?
oNe

i have little, infact no regard for a 2faced confused ignorant individual.
Abuzola, did u say Jesus was a fraud?
Yet ur Quran acknowledges him, not just as a prophet but as not A messiah but THE Messiah.
So wat r u on about, tot u said U pple believe in Jesus too,
so u believe in a Fraud? I hope all is well witya o.
Secondly, how come u only quote the bible tho ignorantly to push ur weak arguement.
And when u see other parts of the same bible u quoted as support quoted in the right context
u start spewin garbage? The bible is only right when u myopically USE it erronously?

Blood sacrifice: if both religion to some extent believe there's sth Unique n special bout jesus,
knowin d sacifice of dove, animal and all sort of common animals as practiced earlier culd take the sins of a Nation
how much more will the precious blood of jesus cleans from our unrighteousness
The simplicity of d gospel is a trouble for many who will rather toil for what they cant humanly attain
rather than accept a free gift of salvation.
So, as it's written: "How can we escape if we neglet such a way of salvation"
It irks me when pple just suddenly act/talk d fool cos they pushin an argument.
oNe

True, most christians do not know as much of Islam as mulims kno of christianity.
But i think the reason is clear enuff.
1-Christianity is older than islam
2-Bible heroes and figures are mentioned in Quran
3-Jesus the sole foundation of the christian faith is mentioned in d Quran tho
not as Son of God but also as the Messiah.
So is in not expected that those who follow the book of Quran will hav knowledge bout Christianity?
Howeva u cant expect the reverse from a christian, and dont blame them, plus, it's not a minus.
Afterall NOTHING, i mean zilch was mentioned in the christian faith or book bout islam.

Btw, i kno those who r involved in this COMPARATIVE RELIGION FORUM, most are moslems.
I have moslem friends who STUDY it,mostly to look for errors in d christian faith and the likes.
I also hav an Eastern religion guy, (cant rmemba if he's a Budhist now or Krishna) they all know
so much bout chritianity than we know of them, cos they make it a task to study christianity most time
for argument discussion purposes.
Another point is e'rone wit a kind of inspiration claims it's from God but most time we kno it's from a god or gods.
Scientific gnosis or general spiritist realm gnosticism doesnt always authenticate a revelation being from God.
We kno satan has knowledge, infact awsome knowledge at that, he wasnt called Lucifer for nothin.
He was the light bearer and we kno Light represents knowledge, so lets not start trippin'.

oNe

Sorry im jumpin into this late.
Dunno if the answer's been given, but
here is ma take on it.
Apparently d poster is not well studied.
Reference is make to d 4 corners, there was mention of 4 winds etc
doesnt that tell it's a ref. to d 4points?
North South East and West?
as in east wind,et al,
This is a no brainer. It doesnt mean that d earth is flat.
However check this:


Isaiah 40:22
NIV: He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth,
and its people are like grasshoppers. .

Proverbs 8:27 "When He established the heavens,
I was there, When He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep

Job 22:14 (NIV)

Thick clouds veil him, so he does not see us
 as he goes about in the[b] vaulted[/b] heavens.'

All these make it crystal clear that the bible wasnt teachin flatness of our world by those ur quotes.
So nxt time try and control ur itchy finger and d urge to hit ur keypad
when what u r about to type has no solid base.
oNe

U only PASS the courvoisier walkin by the bar -M9- im spectacular

If u say u the BEST MAN then walk behind the GROOM-Iceprince-Blaze

the nation's Power is Unstable cos dudes in power are Power Drunk-dAvenchy cant be life

Im more Pissed than d Penis[b]-illbliss[/b]
oNe

Y y'all subliminally authenicatin' a Beef btw Mi and M9.
They both gave props to each other on their albums.
Until any1 can evidently prove this, stop generatin n spreadin hate!
That said, M.i is definately hoTTttttt. Im soo feelin d dude.
Hav a10 track collection not found anywhere and im just feelin d dude'
i like him alot, i respect M9 alot.
I think they bot holding the game to ransom by delayin the
mixtape they plan to put out,
If it happens, ol'boy,

ur career's on now but im heading for the switch
to off it over some bullshit conflict
pull ma trigger once neva need 2shots
kick ur lifeless body with a brand new choks-M9- D nite b4 ma shit drops

i dumb im crazy im schitzo
music all over ur ass no sisco
and ma bars lock ur bars down
and ma cars, wait u got no cars now-Mi-make some noise
oNe

Neva had a KID but they say i turned POP
ok, im popular
so say hi to the new kinda hustler - OD

My career got depth, see it's like KOREA cos it got SOUL- dAvenchy

Dudes thinkin im from PLATEAU'S capital the way i drop JAWS-dAvenchy

y'all ready heard soul food desert is the next- Icebergslim

oNe

javalove:
right now u r dying for a drink/
tap water wont kill so quench your thirst from a sink/
then, all of a sudden one chick dressed in pink/
looks in your direction, and starts to wink/
and u think, yeah right, she give u green light/
yea right, she got a dark spectacles in her eyes/
lmao!!!, Fake Up In Da Club (Modenine)

yea right she just got a speck in her eye

javalove:
right now u r dying for a drink/
tap water wont kill so quench your thirst from a sink/
then, all of a sudden one chick dressed in pink/
looks in your direction, and starts to wink/
and u think, yeah right, she give u green light/
yea right, she got a dark spectacles in her eyes/
she not even your type so dont even try/
and by the way, she came with a muscular guy/
So act like Issac hayes and do the WALK ON BY/
Stop at the bar with a pad and pen one more time/
Start to copy names of drinks u wanna put in your rhymes/
your tele-tubby ways will only fool the lay men/
Now its getting bright, amen, its 6 am/
Time to leave the building, like u came in a benz/
When u strolling to the bus stop wiv 2 of your friends/
Wait for next weekend so u can fo it again, lmao!!!, Fake Up In Da Club (Modenine)

LWKMD, talk bout the mention of moet hennesy barcardi craze in every 9ja song.

oNe

im killin all ur meta-fore fathers/
u worship my work like pergus the idol carvers/
AFro hiphop needs to go see the Barbers/-

steady beat to make u BOB like NESTER while im JAMIN'-M9 360º poetry


Like hooker in a Mouth Action queue i make head line

i only club when i go to battle cavemen

at ur concert i Cheer u wit wat i Sit on- M9 collabo


im tony montana u can get ur face scared
the undertaker will lead u to the graveyard
let d telefone ring bringgggg rrrrrringg, rrrriiiinnng, M.I Got urself a Nine

and M drop shit like he spit in the loo
and so sick like Ne-yo caught the flu
got blood on ma hand like wat did i do
d pple wasnt ready for lyrics this true
wasnt ready for the way M which u grew
u took an old art make d shit sound new
6 three times is d number of the beast
16 bars is wat is normally released---- M.I Straight to d top



wat i spit drops n words split u into 2 like veil
me wit no Message in ma rhyme is Abdurashim wit no Grail
im takin shot at u cos u in d Game like Quail

i solemnly swear to speak d truth
nothin but the truth so i step in vocal booth
like Kunta im takin this strait back to the Root
and if i Uproot the Less will u follow me to d end like Ruth?
pple wanna call me out but end up callin for truce------------------dAvenchy Freestyle

denzel2009:
Sorry to bump into this thread, is DBR based in London? Cos I knw someone called DBR.

So y not ask the someONE u know.
Cos this one is based in afgan
Wat it do.
oNe

i was so carried away by ma own request i didnt even read urs.
Did u say "Winger" psssshhh i hav that.
Lets see if lala comes tru tho.
oNe

@
lalaboi
dude, wat it do.
this is strayin from the topic but i need u to help me out.
There's this track titled Summer time by Dipo.
I'v combed e'rwhere for it wit no luck, even esnipe.
That track is hot and it'l be nice if u cld bail me out
tnx.
oNe

classick:
@DBR
yeah man,it's 4 real,i bin there,done tracks with them and they are dope as hell,they just charging 18k so upcoming acts who aint got doe can record their stuff,when i first heard of them i couldnt beleive it too and i tot their quality would be wack till i gave em a try and found out they are even better than most of these guys charging crazy fees.
DBR give em a try and u wont regret it,their sound quality is off tha chain.

ps,it's 25k they charge now,was there yesterday and double six told me, mad beats i heard too.

@n d lloyds,your a P**SY,a BIG FAT P**SY 4 TRYING TO KNOCK ANOTHER MAN'S HUSTLE.
who are u sef?

K STRIKA AND DBR,HOLA @ PHAT WALL MUZIK,DEM BOYZ ARE TOO MUCH!!!

Aiite man,nice one. Yea a whole lotta cats need the push.
Big up to phatwall, that's a good look.
D'loyd, i understand u lookin out for your profession
advocatin producers shud get well paid for wat they do but
u shud understand wat d economy is sayin and phatwall just givin
cats a helpin hand. I'v heard bout u too D'loyd and i think both of u shud be thinkin of
collaboratin cos u fam. aiite. So sheath your sword guys and shake hands and take back d
curses, lets move the game up.
oNe

~Sauron~:
Opinions will always be polarised on Eminem. I accept that!!!
But to say people applaud him cos he spits crap is kinda ridiculous to me.
Over 80 million records sold and we are still here debating if he's crap or not?? Astounding!!!

This was how MTV saw the CYPHER

Mos Def started off the cypher introducing the three MCs and proclaiming that since they were in his hometown, "I gotta do this for Brooklyn." The Mighty Mos proceeded to shout out various blocks in the borough in his freestyle. Black Thought represented for Philly and completely blacked out. And Eminem brought up the rear and completely murdered it. Slim Shady blended the pill-popping, inane pop culture references and amazing lyrical talent that everyone was expecting from Rehab.

Yet again, the word "MURDERED" was used.

And there u go again, using sales as the yardstick.

Is Britney better than  Aguilera HELL NO, but she sold more.
stop TRYING to equate SALES with ABILITY.
Weezy /Souljah boy r as WACK as they come. But internet and how people can push music,
couple that with the fact that back in the day WHITE folks did NOTT buy HIP HOP like they do TODAY.
is the reason those dudes get a mention in same sentence wit d likes of Heav D, Rakim, LL, Kane, KRS, Chuck, Kool G Rap.

Goes further to prove lotta pple buy crap

MURDERED was the word used for Em'
ok, maybe but to me i see the COMPLETELY MURDERED IT for EM and
COMPLETELY BLACKED OUT for BT as mere interchangin synonyms, IMO.
It's easy to hastily rate Em better in that cypher, but goin tru d lines u posted,
any1 who could seperate lyricism from flow technicality and shock factor wld give BT the Nike.
oNe

Krayola:
there is no song at that link

dude i downloaded mine from this link, u can give it a shot.
http://rapidshare.com/files/301914413/Jones_connect.mp3
oNe

I like, nahhhh i luv Em.
The boy's as talented as hell.
His flow delivery, is off the chain.
He's masterd the Technicality of in-rhymes and multies.
Or who else can spit crap and make pple applaud?
Truth be told after Saurone posted the lyrics of the cypher,
just as as expected BT killed it, if on nothin,lyrically

Dudes r just confusin' lyricism with flow dexterity
Em's one of the greatest in the latter, i loved his delivery to death
(but not the nu crap he's doin on Relapse)
the new voice texture aint werkin for me)
But lyrically in this cypher i rate him below BT.
Yea the Obama Dalar lama, was brilliant
but , Im i d only one tired on Em's Instruments fixation
Good look Bamsyle, Afrocynic.
oNe

shiiiiii.
who r these boyz??
9ja rap game is so elevatin now,
"most rappers sneeze but im d one comin at u[i](argtchuuu)[/i] bless me", niceeee
Boys r spitttin nowadayz.
sick sick beat,, im luvin this.
waitin for the d teeto and sauceK version.
Good look Dipozit, Los.
oNe

@ PHAT WALL STUDIOS WE CHARGE 18K PER TRACK(eighteen thousand naira)

THIS COVERS PRODUCTION OF THE INSTRUMENTAL,RECORDING,MIXING AND MASTERING.TOP QUALITY SOUND GUARANTEED.

really??
18k for all of these services??
Hmmmmmm, is this a get attention move or u for real?
Dunno bout this, but it aint washin with me.
oNe

st-kris:
while its possible he is involved in some secret society, it still remains speculation until some concrete evidence is put forward. so dont come here acting like you have some inside information or something, but u just aint telling. if u really want to inform people, dont do it by painting a vague picture.

and also, quick question; what effect does the line "jesus cant save u, life starts where the church ends" have on a muslim, jew, hindu, budhist or any non-christian jayz fan?

while its important for us to be objective in our responses, the burden is on u to provide adequate substance to your theories.

Ummmm, Recitation is such a powerful thing u dont wanna take it for granted.
Now for me, whether Jay involvement in secret society r SPECULATIONS,
whether there r empirical EVIDENCE or not is least of ma worries.
The fact remain that he is anti christ, note i said he is and not he is THE anti christ.
His lyrical position shows he opposes christ jesus and that pains me sooo much.
cos i like d dude, his music, i think he's talented, but the way he vilifies Christ and d church.
So when one begins to recite some of those line it sips into ur mind, the way reciting scriptural verses
help solidify ones faith and resolve on issue,

As to what what happens to non-christian fans, well, lemme answer that this way:
a dude tells e'rone who cares to listen that he's a vegetarian and he hates pple who eat meat,
tell em how there nothin good in meat and lots of derogratories bout
that does a lot for others who dont eat meat for wateva reason and make them dislike those who do more.
Especially if d dude talkin is influential, successful and got it goin on. dyu get.

i wld hav commented on this point in a different way but this is a safer route.
oNe

Me, i like this oo.
Melodic shiiit. There's gotta be offence smwia. some1 has vexed kelly.
"U say make them follow u bumper to bumper
point of correction na fender to bumper"
Ouuuuuchhhhh!
This aint bad jooor
oNe

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:mnaoBK4HjfMJ:forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php%3Ftopic%3D72816.0+mob+deep+illuminati&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ng&client=firefox-a

any1 who thinks this is all a joke is really a joker, for real.
We r so hip that we take no cognisant of deep/spiritual things.
I'v always known bout the illuminati/freemason/new world order.
Call it an agenda if u will.
It's not a figment of imagination this shit is real.
I like Jayas a rapper i listen to his stuff,im put off by some of the things he says
But he's just playin his own part in d whole arrangement.
Read bout Afrikan bambata, Grandmaster flash and the furious five in regards of culture creation.
See the role that Hiphop is playin.
Educate urselves dudes.
There is time to party n be hip and bop ur heads
there's also time to be pedagogic,deep and really know "what's Up"

oNe

rapjunkie:
@rhymestein, DBR, dejiarayo

Can one of u please give me the contact details for Modenines's management?

Somebody has asked me to get the contact for serious biz.

Cheers

Dunno bout his managment contact. Can give u his #s tho.
But u know that aint gon be on this thread.
So like 2pac, how do u want it?
oNe

In the absence of facts any opinion well crafted and laced with quasi-good intention seem like factand novel.

First all, this is NOT a Mode9 track, he was featured.
It's not even a Cashino track as sm1 else mentioned.
It is an Illbliss' track.
The track is NOT even a "New Joint" as erronously posted.
That shiiiii is like 4 yrs old!!!.
And it's the remix of the original SALUTE by illbliss of his HOMEGROWN tape.

@Audio
As genuine as ur concerns seem, i do not see the connection btw this track and the
"instant gratification" pep talk and how being featured on this track is "killing his own legacy"
not only are those strong words but i think they r erroneous as well, at least IMO judging with the facts.

Is he not already workin with young producers, JJagz, jahmix,Kraft, Mendo,worked with YQ,Mo chedah etc?
Is he not gettin more mainstream appeal while still representing the Underground cats?
@Chrisical
Yea there was a time that these dudes were just reelin out tracks like they breathin, but hey
they need time off so they dont burn out fast, plus they all workin on their albums, i hope Rugged too.
In the hiatus go and listen to their old materials-
M.i's got talk bout it album and Illegalmixtape and numerous feature,
M9 got PS album,Mode over Premo and 090909mixtapes and lots of features,
d rest of 'em sure have some hot singles and features too.
So listen to 'em and prep urself for there upcomin albums.
But to answer ur Q of "where are they"? I say there cookin' up a storm in the Kitchen.
oNe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSNWeMqdEm0&feature=related
Go tru 1-10, They dont come this real no more!
also check

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqrjLRHVsuA&NR=1
Tupac the realest.
oNe

SAURONE< MALLMALC
I respect ur views on issues, especially when it's devoid of bias and emotionality.
So do this Listen to M9's BOOM on the Mode on Premo mixtape
Then Listen to Badman, then come back and tell me about the rhyme scheme,flow and all
being MI-ishhh. Until then u guys aint sayin nothin'
oNe

mbulela:
with all due respect, your analogy is fundamentally fault.
to be a great you must mix commercial success with outstanding talent.
one without the other is questionable.
talent is relatively subjective but commercial success is obvious to all and easily measurable.
until Mode has a measure of both, all these greatest and best adjectives are misplaced.
mention one great, without a measure of both.
btw, why greatest rapper alive? is the greatest dead?

Is the greatest dead?
U wuddnt ask that Q if u r one of those who think Biggie is the greatest
And if u r one of those who think it's 2pac u'l quickly rethink the relevance of that Q.
Plus, it's also a parlance, BRA-Best Rapper Alive, of Greatest Rapper Alive.

As per a MEASURE OF BOTH COMMERCIAL SUCCESS and OUTSTANDING SKILL
The question is does M9 not posses this? Except im ignorant of watya mean by "a measure o[/b]f".
So i say ma friend, that the [b]"fundamental" flaw u ascribed to Mightymike's view has no foundation either.
Thank u.
oNe

Current form wise, witout bias or an iota of doubt, Bouqui!
Flow, lyrical content, style, cadence, beat,
she got it all locked down. A tough call btw her and Blaise tho.
Then of course Kel.
But imm feelin Zara, mehhn there somethin bout that gurl that's sultry,
oNe

Havent heard the album, but heard bout 3 tracks already.
If TAKE U AWAY and SUN SOUN is anythin to go by
then this is the shiiittt right here!!
Now this is the BOUQUI i'v been waitin on.
Luv those 2 tracks, me think she came hard.
Definately a femcee to look out for, let the rest sun soun, lol
oNe