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OlaoChi:
thanks you actually have something to say unlike the other two trolling

I have more questions though
If you say the Akoko-edo are not in any way connected to Akoko in Ondo and Kogi but adopted the name "Akoko" for commercial and political purposes what is to say they didn't adopt the "edo" suffix for similar reason
bear in mind that "Edo" as an ethnic description refers to the people of the Benin Kingdom, similar people are just "Edoid" ie. Edo-like, people like Esan and Afemai are not Benin

Also the op, who claims to come from Ibillo stated that Ibillo was founded by Yoruba migrants, what then is the true foundation of Ibillo

Thanks a lot. The truth is that all Edoid people see themselves as part of the Benin Kingdom on account of the fact that they all at one time or the other migrated from Benin even though in their new destinations they fell outside the sphere of influence of the Oba of Benin.
For example the Etsakos' documented history has it that they were a clan in Benin which decided to migrate out of Benin to the present location in anger over a policy of the king which was not favourable to the continued existence of that clan within the Kingdom, so they chose to migrate to a location where they would be totally outside the influence of the unfriendly Benin King. And actually they achieved just that by moving to the Etsakos areas of today. Now should that suggest that they are not actually Edo's just because they deliberately took themselves out of the Benin Kingdom's physical boundaries? Another example is the Ebu clan which actually left Idah and settled in their current location in Northern part of Delta State in search of total freedom from the Attah of Idah's influence. Now does the existence of Ebus outside Attah's influence for centuries now translate to being no longer descendants of the Igala Kingdom?
As for the OP's claim that Ibillo has roots among Yorubas, it is a difficult assertion as the Okpameri language which Ibillo people speak shares more words with Edo Language than Yoruba if at all it does. Their dressing and traditional institutions reflect mostly Benin. The OP did not however give plausible details of the Yoruba involved founding of Ibillo.

9jakool:
Even suggesting all of Ovia is too generous. There are Yoruba dialects like Ikale and Usen spoken in parts of Ovia NE and Ovia SW.

Those are not Yoruba dialects. What you have there is just convergence of words. For example in Igarra there local are names like Ozioma, Eneze, Ubani, etc which also are borne by Igbos and have Igbo meanings, but it is mere convergence and does not establish any linguistic affinity between the two peoples.
When the usen people however speak the Yoruba person does not understand.

macof:
If you don't know the difference between Kingdom and Empire that's not my problem really

And I purposely stated 6 because parts of Orhiomwon belongs to Ika - Igbos

Rather than charge out on "ethnic defence mission" you should have stated what you think Bini kingdom comprises and prove how I'm wrong.

So because part of Orhiomwon consists of Ikas, then the whole of Orhiomwon is not Edo? What kind of logic is this one? Then what language is the name "Orhiomwon" itself? And I guess the non-Ika parts of Orhiomwon are Yorubas, right? Guy your expansionism drive stinks. Your actual Yoruba brothers are trapped in Kogi and Kwara States and have been agitating to join their kits and kind in either Ondo or Ekiti but ironically and unfortunately you feel more concerned about dragging into Ondo state the Edo tribes who have never agitated for such. Please where on earth does this kind of absurdity happen? Why not focus on your real brothers who have always been erroneously placed in the Northern Regions since before 1900?

orhiomwon:
Don't Mention My Name Again

Are you for real?

OlaoChi:
but you claim to be an historian and even call yourself historyworld, you should be able to tell fiction from history unless you are trying to say Akoko have no history and all the stories Akoko people say about themselves are lies too, which I cannot believe. And you really have to act reasonable and stop all this emotional outburst, I'm just here to learn if you have nothing to offer you can bounce and give space to others who know the history and demographics of the area, after all you cannot force your opinion on others. Edo in their name signifies Edo state not Edo people because there are Akoko in Kogi and Ondo states, are they Edo too?
there are also many things wrong with this assertion of yours, Pre colonial maps try to portray States along with any vassal they might have ie. Benin Empire with vassals that were not part of Benin kingdom
there is a difference between a Kingdom and an Empire with vassal kingdoms under its administration and these Maps were largely inaccurate due to the Europeans lack of knowledge on the demographics and geography of the ingenious African people many assumptions were made without the Europeans going inland themselves, some cities east would be portrayed to be west, this is general knowledge i believe. European ideas about Africa of pre-colonial times are being debunked by Europeans themselves due to lack of sufficient knowledge, this your reliance on European maps is an erroneous move as the Europeans would not have known Akoko towns, so Akoko cannot be featured in pre-colonial maps, are there records of europeans visiting Akokoland? I guess not

The Akokos in Kogi and Ondo are actually Yorubas but Akoko-Edos are not. I am an Akoko-Edo person and I tell this to you as the horses mouth.


Akoko-Edo was cut into Midwest along with other Edoid tribes because they were clearly not Yorubas and had nothing in common with them otherwise they would have been left in the Western Region during the creation of Midwest.
As for the Yoruba factor, here is the truth, kiss it for once:
The geographical area currently known as Akoko-Edo was initially known as and called Igarra-Edo by the colonial authorities which observed that nearly all the inhabitants are Edoid in language and traditions. The inclusion of Igarra root in the name was on account of the level of primacy which Igarra exhibited among the other settlements even though Igarra was not the largest tribe nor the second largest. However with time and more enlightenment the other tribes began to agitate that the name Igarra-Edo was not truly representative of the actual diversity of the area. But neither did any other single tribe have a simple majority to confer on it the status of overwhelming majority. This led to a logjam which in an attempt to resolve the different tribes, including the Igarrans themselves, had to agree to pick a neutral name to replace Igarra in the name. Owing to historical familiarity with their Akoko neighbors through trade interactions over centuries coupled with the fact that they were already placed in the newly created Western Region, they thought it strategic to adopt the Akoko root and moreso to gain political relevance within the Western Region given the fact that qualification for entitlement from the Regional government was not much by merit as was by real or apparent majority membership.
That was how the people came to use Akoko and not that they we're Yorubas.
However with the creation of Midwest, the Yoruba factor became unnecessary and began to die a natural death. For the teaching of Local Language, schools reverted to teaching the mother tongues of the villages in which they were located and the use of Yoruba language in communication became progressively discouraged and resented. In the end the only Yoruboid village that ever existed in Akoko-Edo and was actually founded by Yorubas was encouraged to get themselves carved into Ondo State. And this was done in IBB's 1991 States creation and boundary adjustment as the village in question called Imeri located on the Northwestern end of Akoko-Edo was carved into Ondo State.
Thereafter Akoko-Edo has become devoid of all traces of Yoruba.

macof:
"Do not be like the uneducated Edos on this forum. There is no schooling the person you quoted can give me, to assume that is even an insult"

You are obviously a typical uneducated Yoruba on an expansionism mission that had already failed. The guy shooled you. Live with that.

"I reside very very far away from Ife. And my hometown is not Ife, as that appears to be your assumption.
I am sure not Edo, but it is wrong to think one would have to be Edo to know who is Edo and who is not, you seem oblivious to the concept of Study and research through that one will know that Edo state is different from Edo ethnicity which Akoko is not"



" of course I do, not because I have a problem with Bini but because it makes no sense that Oduduwa would come from Bini and Ife would have no tradition of that..even in Bini there is no tradition of that, this Bini connection story is a recent concoction, so inconsistent with the already known facts. I have given my reasons for refuting this so many times, some of them are:
1. Oduduwa - Odu - da - Uwa(Iwa; standard Yoruba)... basic Yoruba, which meaning has nothing to do with Imadoduwa or Izoduwa
2. is it Imadoduwa or Izoduwa? the story claims both names, doesnt make sense, this is an obvious sign that the story is made up
3. the coronation rites of the Oba of Bini doesnt connect him to the Ogiso, everything is a reflection of a totally new Dynasty
4. the name 'Oduduwa' is known in Bini as 'Oduduwa' there is even an Oduduwa festival. what sense does it make to call him Oduduwa when you say he is Izoduwa or Imadoduwa. No traditions exist with him being referred to as Imadoduwa or Izoduwa

Oduduwa might as well come from Bini, after all there are Obas in Yorubaland who came from Bini like the Ogoga of Ikere-Ekiti. But you need evidence, that is why no reputable historian takes the Ikaledehan story seriously."


"Again, I am not Ife.

95% of Akoko-Edo are not made up of Edo migrants, Even Ibillo and Igarra the largest towns are not, I expect you to know this
There are towns in Akoko-edo founded by Yorubas, towns founded by Edo, towns by other Ethnicities in Nigeria, this cannot be denied.
Another undeniable fact is that Akoko-Edo and Akoko-Ondo are together Akoko as a whole, do not try to separate Akoko-edo. So I am not even claiming Akoko as a whole are originally Yoruba, because that is not true, the area is multi -cultural and -linguistic but the Yoruba factor(which has existed since pre-colonial times) is fast becoming dominant"

You are obviously a typical uneducated Yoruba bigot on an expansionism mission that has already failed. The guy schooled you. Live with that.

Much as you don't have to be Edo before you can know about Edo, you however can't know Edo more than the Edos themselves. I may have a lot of literature about Yorubas at my disposal online but that will and can never make me more knowledgeable about Yorubas than a Yoruba person born and bred in Yoruba land. So when an Edo person born and bred in Edo State speaks you listen and learn from his first hand knowledge rather than insist on the incomplete and inaccurate knowledge you gleaned from online articles and books written by non-native scholars like you. You don't claim you know me more than I know myself. That is absurd and moronic.

So you went all that length to resist the Izoduwa story which appears to you as a Binis' attempt to impose their own version of your identity on you yet you are here at the same time trying to impose your own concocted idea of Akoko-Edo people's Identify and history on them even when an Akoko-Edo person is here refuting it all and telling you the fact as a native? Is that not hypocritic? See your life?

Sorry for you. I am an Akoko-Edo person born and brought up there and still live there. You are hallucinating. Almost all Akoko-Edo towns and villages are inhabited by ancient Bini Migrants. Most of their languages and dialects share a lot of words with Bini Language. Ibillo people are part of the ethnic group called Okpameri which is the largest in Akoko-Edo. Other Okpameri towns are Lampese, Bekuma, Imoga, Kakumo, Somorika, Ekor, Ilepi, Ugboshi Afe, Ugboshi Ele, Makeke, Anyauza, Ogbe, etc. None of them was founded by any Yoruba historical figure. They all migrated from Benin at different times.
The next largest tribe is the Uneme tribe which has towns and villages like Uneme-Nekhua, Uneme Erhurhu, Uneme-Akpama, Uneme-Osu, Ekpedo, etc. None of them was founded by any Yoruba. Unemes are metal smiths till today - a skill they carried from their ancestral Benin home. Their language is almost purely Benin.
Igarra is just the largest town but not the largest tribe. In fact Igarra is the third largest tribe in Akoko-Edo. So your assumption that the largest size of Igarra automatically translates to largest tribe status for them showcases your stark ignorance about Akoko-Edo and further proves that you are on an expansionism mission which will surely fail.
Other Akoko-Edo settlements are Okpe, Ijaja, Enwan, Akuku, Ososo, Egbigere, Sasaro, Ushi, Anyaran, Ojirami, Ojah, Atteh, Ikpeshi, etc.They are all together fifty six in number. None of them has any history of being founded by Yorubas.
Akoko-Edo is in Edo State while Akoko-Ondo is in Ondo State. So I am left wondering what you mean by your claim that they are together. Akoko-Edo was cut into Midwest along with other Edoid tribes because they were clearly not Yorubas and had nothing in common with them otherwise they would have been left in the Western Region during the creation of Midwest.
As for the Yoruba factor about which you exposed immense ignorance, here is the truth, kiss it for once:

The geographical area currently known as Akoko-Edo was initially known as and called Igarra-Edo by the colonial authorities which observed that nearly all the inhabitants are Edoid in language and traditions. The inclusion of Igarra root in the name was on account of the level of primacy which Igarra exhibited among the other settlements even though Igarra was not the largest tribe nor the second largest. However with time and more enlightenment the other tribes began to agitate that the name Igarra-Edo was not truly representative of the actual diversity of the area. But neither did any other single tribe have a simple majority to confer on it the status of overwhelming majority. This led to a logjam which in an attempt to resolve the different tribes, including the Igarrans themselves, had to agree to pick a neutral name to replace Igarra in the name. Owing to historical familiarity with their Akoko neighbors through trade interactions over centuries coupled with the fact that they were already placed in the newly created Western Region, they thought it strategic to adopt the Akoko root and moreso to gain political relevance within the Western Region given the fact that qualification for entitlement from the Regional government was not much by merit as was by real or apparent majority membership.
That was how the people came to use Akoko and not that they we're Yorubas.
However with the creation of Midwest, the Yoruba factor became unnecessary and began to die a natural death. For the teaching of Local Language, schools reverted to teaching the mother tongues of the villages in which they were located and the use of Yoruba language in communication became progressively discouraged and resented. In the end the only Yoruboid village that ever existed in Akoko-Edo and was actually founded by Yorubas was encouraged to get themselves carved into Ondo State. And this was done in IBB's 1991 States creation and boundary adjustment as the village in question called Imeri located on the Northwestern end of Akoko-Edo was carved into Ondo State.
Thereafter Akoko-Edo has become devoid of all traces of Yoruba.

macof:
You are a dunce. I've said leave my mentions, your level of intelligence is too low for me to engage in yet another back and forth on another thread.

I'll jst leave you with this;

Benin kingdom is just Bini people, even Esan are not Part of Bini kingdom. Bini kingdom ends at Ovia LGA, all in all, Bini kingdom comprises parts of 6 LGAs in Edo state
Learn the difference between Kingdom and Empire

But of course you can keep your delusions rather than to face your so called French medical education

Please stop saying what you don't know. If at all your assumption that Bini kingdom was limited to the present Edo South LGAs were to be regarded as the truth, then it would have also failed because there are actually 7 LGAs in Edo South and not 6 as you would want your readers to believe. They are
1. Oredo
2. Orhiomwon
3. Egor
4. Ikpoba-Okah
5. Ovia NE
6. Ovia SW
7. Uhumwode.

Please your knowledge about Edo people is not detailed hence your false assumptions regarding the Kingdom and its people.

historyworld031:
Prove your claims.
You claim that their name is not AKOKO-EDO, then prove it.
You really have to take a look at the pre-colonial maps before saying such and such place was not part of the Benin Kingdom.
The entire Edo state was a small part of the Benin Kingdom.
The likes of you just keep confusing Benin Kingdom with its capital (Benin City).
And claiming that the Benin empire no longer exists is nonsensical, the people of the empire are still alive, the empire is not any less existing than your ife village or the sokoto caliphate. I know that you yorubas are very busy claiming bits after bits of the Benin empire with the usual "you be yoruba, you dey come from ife".
I just keep wondering why yoruba just have this incredible vanity to think that they know us Edo better than we know ourselves.
You don't even base your "knowledge" on scientific nor histoical facts but on some yoruba story tellers tales or on your personal emotions.
Hear what the Esan princes have to say about Omo n'Oba n'Edo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MqF5JhgX0g
You have to understand this, we Edo are one people with one king: Omo n'Oba n'Edo.
Can you imagine your arrogance ?
I actually wonder if you do know that the expression "Oba of Benin" is actually not the real title of the Oba, his real title is "Omo n'Oba n'Edo". One fact which I doubt you ever knew. Also I doubt that you actually knew that the name of the people of the Benin Kingdom is Edo.
And stop this foolish "analysis" about language, we all speak english today, does that make us british ?
People learn other languages in order to interact with other peoples (trade, conquest, marrage ...)
By the way, when my Dad was in the army, he learnt haussa, are you going to claim that he is partly haussa now ?
Jamaicans speak english, does that make them british ?
The irish speak english, does that make them englishmen ?
The problem with you macof is that your intellect is very small. You don't know what in hell you are talking about, you can't reason, all you can do is parrot others.

Thank you for taking your time to school him. He resides far away in Ife and from there he is saying who belongs to Edo and who doesn't, yet when Binis claim his Ife was first ruled by Ozoduwa a Benin prince he gets annoyed. How can an Ife man claim he knows Akoko-Edo more than the people themselves? There is no part of Akoko-Edo that Yorubas are indigenous to. 95℅ of the towns and villages are made up of Benin Migrants whose languages have over time diverged from one another due to differences in times of exodus from the Benin Kingdom. The remaining 5℅ are the Oshuku descendants there whose migrational origin is suspected to be entirely outside Nigeria.
The Akoko root in the name Akoko-Edo was purely for administrative identity and does not in any way connote any cultural or linguistic relationship with Yorubas.
If they are actually Yorubas then how come Yoruba chiefs in the Western Region Assembly pre-Midwest creation used to refer to them derogatorily as "kobokobo" by which they meant a strange people whose languages were incomprehensible?
Yorubas should leave Edo State alone please.
They accuse Kanu of dragging the SS into Biafra but are themselves guilty of dragging a non-Yoruba people into Oodua. This is shameful and hypocritical.

macof:
Not being Yoruba doesn't mean they have nothing to do with Yoruba

Yoruba and Igala share a common origin, one more closely connected than the Yoruba-Edo-Igbo origin infact, and the Okun- Ekiti sub groups have had a lot of interaction with the Igala for centuries.

Don't take all lay man's translation seriously, just because aljharem gave his suggestion doesn't mean that's all to it...

You obviously don't know that Igarra (Etuno) is different from Igala.
Igarra refers to a town in Edo State and has no linguistic affinity with Igala in Kogi State. They are totally different from each other, so don't confuse them at all. It is like assuming that a village in Delta State called Ashaka is inhabited by Hausa-Fulanis just because there is another village named Ashaka too in Funakaye LGA of Gombe State. It doesn't work that way. In fact there is a town named Igara in Brazil but is not in any way related to Igarra in Edo State Nigeria.
Igalas speak Igala Language which has a lot of Yoruba variants in it. But Igarras speak Etuno Language which has nothing to do with Yoruba as you have already seen above.

aljharem:
Based on my dialect and I am from Lagos

Ozioma means something good
adaviriku means not seeing death
Asusheyi means Asu did this
Iramofu means some have


Take more my yoruba is not even good !

In Igarra usage:
Ozioma means a responsible child develops the trait naturally and not due much to parental efforts.
Iramofu means the future always is greater than the past and present.
Adaviriku means that a responsible father is a like a forest into which members of the family run for protection.
Asusheyi is actually a condensed pronunciation of A si ewu sha eyi and it transliterates to 'You should not hurry' meaning no hurry in life.

So they are not Yoruba names and have nothing to do with Yoruba.

Jejebaba:
Hello BnSTIL,
A friend sent me this message this morning asking for my advice.
"My father bought 800,000 unit of Wema bank share at 10 Naira (public offer) years back. He is not the monitoring type and he didnt tell me . Now he wasnt able to monitor it till the price goes down to 0.5 kobo and the bad thing is that since he bought it , Wema bank hasnt give dividend. what should he do"

Your dad's investment in Wema has obviously reduced to one twentieth of its value. But that shouldn't be a cause for alarm as the investment can be managed to within the next few years ahead yield back the original capital and even additional profit if you get good advice and are willing to take it. The Nigerian Stock market is a place where there are as much chances of gain as of loss. All it takes to be a winner in it is refusal to give up, timely information and promptly acting on it. A lot of folks you see here lost bigger fortunes than your dad courtesy of the 2007/2008 manipulation/ bubble burst but have been able to recover all and even made more gains by refusing to quit or give in to the psychological devastation that came with it.
I will therefore advise that your dad sells those units of Wema right away to avoid 100℅ loss which may soon come to be on the strength of the 1k rule, and then use the proceeds to keep buying into other currently profitable companies in succession such that with the power of compound interest he will have in good time recovered his initial capital and additional profit. Patience, positive mindset and fortitude are the keys here.

valentinenwoko:
Any news on Deap Capital, multiverse PLC

DEAP Capital's accounts are still largely in the red zone.

chinedusamson:
Hi, how can one buy stocks from the NSE. Please I've been aspiring to know, invest and trade stocks. I believe I'm in the right forum. Please any good info will be well appreciated.

Visit any stockbroking firm of your choice and register to open an account with CSCS through the stockbroking firm. Account opening takes 72 working hours. Then you make deposits into the stockbroking firm's account and you start trading. It is that simple.
If you don't yet know any stockbroking firm you can search them out on Google and then choose any one that catches your fancy.

The first Church was the very temple in Jerusalem on the strength of the fact that it was in it that the curtains were torn into two to herald Christianity.
Then came the next set of churches which were established wherever the apostle stopped over during their missionary journeys with examples as; The Church in Corinth, The Church in Galatia, The Church in Rome, The Church in Philipi, The Church in Colosae, etc.
In the Book of Revelations, Jesus sent messages to the churches in Ephesus, Philadelphia, Laodicea, Pergamum, Thyatira, Smyrna, and Sardis.
All the above show clearly that biblically churches were given purely geographical names (i.e. named after the cities or towns in which they were located) and never given names invented by their founders.
In addition, the Church in Jerusalem had control over all of them as all doctrinal misunderstandings in the satellite churches always got referred back to it.
So to me, names like Catholic, Anglican, Baptist, Apostolic, Church of God, Deeper Life, etc are a deviation from the original intent of Christ.

veecovee:
No wonder Jesus said that the harlots go first us enter heaven

Only on the condition that the harlot repents. An unrepentant harlot that refuses to be sober when his double speak is pointed out to him is a hypocrite and has no place in heaven. To underscore how disgusting hypocrisy was in the eyes of Jesus you need to recall that only the sin of hypocrisy could elicit curses from him.
So please let us stick to the original intent of this thread. There are adherents of different religions here, and if everyone decides to choke this place with his religion's literature, you will obviously not like it.

Agbalowomeri:
You mean Ogboni

More like Nairalanders Price Influence Fraternity ( NPIF).

RabbiDoracle:
I think he meant crowdfunding to buy up firms. If big money guys submit cash, they can give bloc shares and control firms by planting a director in the board.

Carl Icahn style!

Yeah, I got his drift.

sellydion:
Thanks. 100% in a year on Yr N5m - N50m no do! Haba, people want carry market put for pocket ?

From N5m to N50m is 1000℅ increase. May we get another Forte Oil story next year.

Zhirinovsky:
My People!

I need new friends preferably from this forum. with whom I can rub minds on how to break the bank from stock trading. We should have a get together this December, maybe after christmas. Where do you see yourself in the next 3 years? If you see yourself owning a fund whether Hedge fund or a finance house, I will like to meet you!

maybe we can contribute towards the get together!

I will love to meet y'all gurus;BBM, FXUSER, CP,YOK,DOLLARTEX,veecovee, infact everybody here!! especially oga Loco, he sounds like someone with the raw ginger to get the money

God Bless Us All!!

You obviously want to create an NL based Stock Exchange cabal. Not a bad idea though. After all one of the shortest cuts to sustainable wealth in Nigeria is through cabal membership.

rebekah2011:
Sir, you need patience. It will get there but it will take time. Zenith Bank has good figures.

I share your conviction about the assurance that it will get there someday, but the ingredient of patience is what I can't risk for Zenith.
Long term patience could be disastrously counterproductive in this Nigerian bourse.

fxuser:
Fidelity

- jumps to full bid ! dis hunters will not allow it to retrace proper lollx

I have learnt from experience that to enter during a retracement a stock being driven by freshly released improvements in fundamentals a delay beyond the third day of the retracement is risky.

robobo:
hello chief

wld appr8 if u share this analysis or point to the source

thank you

One would ordinarily expect Zenith to have been dragging the N41-43 range with GTB going by comparative size but here is a quite convincing explanation to the contrary.
https://nairametrics.com/why-gtb-did-better-than-zenith-in-2016/

Manonamission:
Ehn! Wait o. What's the issue with Zenith gaan gan?

I saw one online analysis on Zenith and going by it Zenith may remain a laggard for quite long.

Zhirinovsky:
It would have been more profitable if this Bulls picks one stock at a time

Your long throat for geometric profit no get mate.

fopishow:
Gurus in the house, i am thinking of loading Okomu and presco long term say one year. Is this advisable?

Okomu and Presco are currently enjoying favourable atmosphere through the government's agro-based companies favourable policy. How long the policies are likely to be retained should be your guide.

nonsobaba:
Edo with oil wells having a budget of 146 billion while Anambra has 166 billion. Where are those afonjas mocking the Anambra budget?

Since the inception of his administration Obaseki has granted lots and lots of tax waivers especially to those involved in unskilled labour in order to give a human face to his government. For debtor companies he offered to write off certain percentages of their debt if they paid up the balance within a given time frame. He recently reduced tax by 66℅ for market women in the state all in a bid to stimulate liquidity and spending power. Had he not granted these waivers and drastic tax cuts he could have submitted a budget of N200b.

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Very interesting thread.

Duru1:
You probably will continue to wallow in this ignorant stream of thought if you do not brush up on your knowledge base. The question you should first pose to yourself is "when did NNDP break from AG? The formation of NNDP by the rebellious Action Group stalwarts led to Awolowo's incarceration.

And you surely will continue to wallow in self delusion till you decide to rely on logic and refrain from abusive language in debates.

The question you should rather ask yourself is which predated which between Zik's decision to coalesce with NPC in 1960, and the formation of NNDP in 1962.

The part of my post which you bolded in my mention would suggest that your response was going to explain why Zik preferred the North in 1960. But Ironically your response was totally off the mark as it was about the creation of NNDP which happened in 1962 and therefore could only have been an effect and not a cause of Zik's 1960 decision. The causes of an event naturally predates the event and not the other way round. What happened in 1999 could not have been caused by what is currently happening now in 2017.

ClintonJr:
I like the way Yorubas are beating around the bush just to drag Zik into the mess, then turn a blind eye to the role Akintola played in jailing Awolowo #backstabbers

The usual disease of assuming that it takes only a Yoruba person to see through the naivete and myopia of Zik.
Zik signed all the documents with which Balewa implemented Awolowo's jail sentence.
Igbos and their incurable self enslavement disposition towards Gambaris.

vinlinks:
My three question,

1, Are they Nigerians both the north and south west going to allow the Igbos to select their choice for the Igbo president?

2, What if they bring Rochas Okorocha as the Igbo president, what are we going to do ? because it didn't solve the problem.

3, After they allow Igbo to be the President may be one or two tenure, they will now rule us for another 56 years ?

Your fear that the Hausas and Yorubas are likely to connive together to seeing that the Igbo president goes to an Igbo man who is not the Igbos' choice reminds one of how Igbos too colluded with Hausas in 1999 to railroad to power an OBJ who was not the Yorubas' choice.
What goes around surely has a way of coming around. Only a question of time.

leo1234:
I don't understand the stock again.

I see a temporary retracement not a reversal.