₦airaland Forum

zendy:
You keep changing positions each time. Now it is no longer the declaration of Biafra that caused Gowon to reverse on true federalism, it was because Ojukwu insisted on the confederation agreed at Aburi. Laughable. Who told you that the majority wanted a return to pre-Ironsi times? Who where this majority? The North? All 4 Regional Military Governors and Gowon signed a binding agreement in Aburi on behalf of their people. why would Gowon unilalterally renege on what he signed with others? How can a person sign an agreement, have a change of heart and not call all those he signed the agreement with to renegotiate? Your argument is really funny. So Ojukwu was stubborn and adamant on confederation, Gowon wanted a return to pre-Ironsi times, but because Ojukwu was stubborn, Gowon now decided to ignore Ojukwu and the same majority who want true federalism and decided to introduce full blown unitary rule by dividing the regions, and making things much worse than either Ironsi or Ojukwu advocated for? Who are you kidding? So where was this so called majority that wanted true federalism when Gowon was doing this? Where were they when Gowon won the war and there was no more stubborn Ojukwu? Why did the same unitary system continue? So Ironsi started a bad precedence and all of you happily ran with it, even fought a war to keep running with it and kept running with the same precedence in an even worse form for 50 years. Who are you people kidding?

Guy face the truth. Long before the first coup, the North has always wanted economic and political domination of Nigeria. The first coup and counter coup was the perfect excuse to put that agenda in place. Knowing that the Western Region had no fight in them, the only opposition they faced and still face is from the former Eastern Region and part of the former Mid west Region which some people now collectively call SE/SS. So they implemented 'divide and rule' Thats why Aburi agreement was bad fir them, it stopped their plans for domination in its tracks cause Ojukwu thats what they were up to.

Do you know that the Northern officers who conducted the counter coup initially wanted to seceed the North out of Nigeria? But they realised that the North would not be viable without the South and changed tune to what their political fathers wanted which was control of Nigeria. The war was inevitable because the Igbo man was not prepared to accept Northern domination as readily as the Yoruba man was. Our history has taught us all that Nigeria does not work as a nation and we are all better apart than together.

I have not changed position. In the prevailing circumstances Ojukwu's insistence on Aburi Accord or nothing else was already a disguised declaration of a separate republic. Awolowo's announcement that 'if the East was allowed to go the West too would go' was an indication that Ojukwu's body language was showing clearly that he, deep down in his mind, was already making concrete preparations to declare Biafra despite insisting on Aburi Accord implementation on the surface. In fact his proposal of regional army at Aburi was not only strange to the whole world as no other country had ever even thought of that, but was also an indirect way of seeking power in advance to declare Biafra should Gowon implement the accord. If not for a secession strategy why would anyone propose a regionalized army? Where has such ever happened? Then what is the meaning of army?
In principle, apart from Ojukwu, the the other three military regional governors did not really represent their regions' civilian populace's interest because they were forced on them by Ironsi. They were not voted into their positions by those civilians. Before they left for Aburi they did not consult the civilian masses in any way, therefore their blind endorsement of Ojukwu's numerous Confederal proposals was not representative of the true wish of the civilian populace of their respective regions. Only Ojukwu could be said to have been properly accepted by his own region's people to represent them because he was chosen for them by a fellow Easterner - Ironsi and was practically consulting the Eastern Regional Assembly for most of the steps he took. If the known leading politicians endorsed and loved by their people in each of each of the regions had been allowed to represent their regions at Aburi, do you think Ojukwu's confederal proposals would have scaled through for Gowon to sign? Recall that in arrival of Ojukwu and Gowon from Aburi, it was these leading politicians from other regions that rejected the Aburi Accord with their peoples support because they were not carried along to Aburi coupled with the fact that the outcome of that accord was far from the wishes of the civilians they represented. Those civilians from the 3 other regions were the majority and not the 4 regional military governors who represented a military establishment that had illegally imposed themselves on them.
Gowon had no choice but to renege on the agreement because on return he got to know that what he mistakenly signed was the interest of a very small minority and not the majority. There is nothing morally wrong about that. It would have even been morally wrong for him to stick to the accord after the overwhelming majority told him on his arrival that it was contrary to their expectation and therefore did not want it implemented.
Ojukwu's stubbornness was ultimately aimed at declaring a separate republic by all means, and a military government at the centre would not allow it since the constitution did not provide for that. In fact the constitution had it that the unity of Nigeria was non-negotiable courtesy of Zik. There was no secession clause in it, and it was endorsed like that by all at the time of formulation, including Igbos
. Even prior to that time the same Ironsi and the same Ojukwu never allowed Isaac Boro's declaration of secession see the light of the day on account of the non negotiability of Nigeria's unity. So Gowon too had to defend the unity of the country by any means possible just as Ironsi and Ojukwu too did to Isaac Boro earlier on. Therefore the majority who wanted federalism did not mind whatever strategy (whether reverting to unitary system) Gowon used to prevent Ojukwu's secession or confederacy which would have endanger their lives. If secession would not endanger peoples lives, then why did Ojukwu and Ironsi not allow Isaac Boro go?
It doesn't matter if we spend 50 years trying to get federalism back.
Who introduced an evil remains the guiltiest irrespective of the extent to which others later copied it. Adam ate only fruit thus committing far lesser sin that most people who came after him. But he is still called the father of sin because he set the precedent in the first instsnce.

Your insinuation that the North and West broke Aburi Accord because they wanted to dominate is a distortion of facts. Recall that the North initially did not want to be part of Nigeria but even described Nigeria as the mistake of 1914 prior to independence. In fact Ahmadu Bello repeatedly asked for the de-amalgamation of Nigeria and same with Tafawa Balewa. It was Zik who kept on courting them into co-forming a country with the South. The same Zik gave them power over the South by taking the NCNC into an alliance with the NPC to throw up Balewa as the first ruler instead of the all-South alliance that would have made a Southerner, specifically Zik himself, the first prime minister to help curtail the born to rule agenda. So whose fault?

zendy:
You are running away from the real issues and countering your own arguement. Ironsi did not abolish the 4 Regions. The 4 Regions were still existing the day Ironsi died, so how could he have abolished it? What Ironsi did was to centralise Government, the 4 Regions stayed intact.

Gowon went to Aburi to talk peace with Ojukwu and the 3 other military Governors. They debated for two days and signed an agreement. If Gowon went back home and decided that the Aburi agreement he signed infront of the president of Ghana was not right, he should sought a second meeting to amend it. Lets not forget that this was military rule and in the military, a junior officer does not dictate to his senior. Of the four military Governors of the time, Lt Colonel Ojukwu, Colonel Adebayo, Lt Colonel Ejoor and Lt Colonel Katsina. Adebayo, Ejoor and Ojukwu were all senior to Gowon. Only Katsina was junior to Gowon.

For Gowon to have held a meeting with his seniors, signed the agreement with them and gone back home to sing another tune is in it self a very bad thing.

You said that Gowon reneged on the Aburi agreement because of the wishes of the majority who wanted the pre-Ironsi situation? Then why didnt he do that? Instead, Gowon went ahead to dismember the 4 regions into 12 states. Why did he do this? Ironsi did not cut up the Regions, he onky changed the mechanics of how it was run. Aburi did not cut up the Regions, it only changed the mechanics of how it was run. Only Gowon came and not only changed the mechanics of how the 4 Regions were run but also cut them up into 12 pieces.

For your information, Gowon announced the division of the 4 Regions into 12 states on the 27th of May 1967, as a result, Ojukwu declared Biafra 3 days later on the 30th. So this talk of yours that declaring Biafra caused Gowon to reverse on true federalism is nonsense.

Had Gowon not cut up the 4 Regions, those 4 Regions would still have reverted to pre-Ironsi situation whenever civilian rule returned.

Your argument that the continued existence of the regions under Ironsi automatically meant federalism was still in place is very faulty when looked at against the fundamentals of what unitary system and federalism entail. In principle what makes a society federal is not the mere existence of regions or subnational divisions in it but the extent to which those divisions are autonomous and independent of the centre. That Britain has districts and regions like Sheffield, etc does not automatically translate to Britain being a federalism. Actually Britain is a unitary state because even though regions are present in it, the centre has overwhelming control over them. That was similar to what Ironsi did. He left the regions in existence but was actually weakening them and stripping them of their autonomy in favour of the centre, thereby subtly converting Nigeria to a unitary state. The regions that existed under Ironsi were very very weak and almost dead. His centralization of the civil service was an attack on the most fundamental definitive feature of regional autonomy. Regions which had lost control over their civil service had lost everything else as the civil service is the pivot and life blood of any administrative entity. The civil service generates the revenue, implements the governments programmes and policies, and practically runs the government. In fact the civil service is the only tool by which any government operates and does its business of governance. So unifying the civil service was tantamount to taking away government from the regions completely. It was like removing the engine of the regional governments and taking those engines to the centre. Then what was left in the regions even though they were still existing merely on paper?
Your defense with the claim that Gowon's division of the country into 12 states came before Ojukwu's declaration of Biafra is nonsense. After majority of Nigerians rejected the Aburi Accord, it was practically impossible for Gowon to continue with his already commenced process of returning Nigeria to the pre-Ironsi status quo because Ojukwu had already mounted the campaign of 'On Aburi Accord ALONE we stand' thereby making it clear that he would not under any condition or for any reason accept anything other than confederacy which ironically the majority did not want. His mind was made up so Gowon did not need to waste his time trying to convince him again that majority wanted just a full return to federalism and not confederacy.
If Ojukwu had agreed with the majority that we went back exactly to pre-Ironsi federalism, Gowon would not have split into states the regions which he was already rescuing from Ironsi's damage.
Your argument on seniority in the army is irrelevant because there was chaos at that moment and that the choas was not an about internal affairs of the army but was even more about the affairs of the civilian populace. So army hierarchy considerations had to be jettisoned in the interest of seeking the best solution that resonated with the wish of the civilian majority. Soldiers don't exist for themselves but for civilians.

blues20:
Ignore that dude. An Edoid jack that sees nothing good related to Indigbo. Dig his posts and see for youreself.... Igboid aka Pazianza have given him enough dose on history lessons, but his blind hate will never allow him accept the truth.

It would have been better if you had addressed the issues raised.
Please can you tell me why no single Igbo person or group rose publicly to dissociate themselves from Ironsi's centralization of the civil service despite knowing fully well that such automatically meant he would also centralize the revenue sources in order for the centre to be able to meet the financial obligations of the centralized civil service, thus a first step towards killing of resource control.
I want real answers and not insinuations of hate against indigbo please.

However bad the circumstances had become, a military intervention was in no way justified. In fact Tafawa Balewa had already started realizing his mistakes and had begun trying to break loose from Ahmadu Bello's apron strings to become his own man. In the last interview he granted to the press he had already indicated a readiness to release all those in jail and settle the matter amicably out of court. Even Okotie-Eboh too waa already calling on Balewa to retrace some of his steps against the UPGA in the interest of saving the young democracy. So why the coup?
Civilians always have a way of coming back to their senses and shifting grounds for peace and harmony. That is why they say no permanent fiends or enemies in politics, but only permanent interest.

With the near anarchy currently in Nigeria from the massacres of Odi, Zakibiam, to Gbaramatu and Oporoza, to the Shiites, to the Ipob protesters, etc, would you say a coup is currently justified?

zendy:
You should get some facts straight.

The first coup happend because of the general unrest in the land such as the 1963 census, the badly flawed elections of 1964 and the violence that it caused in the Western Region and other places in 1965. So its not like all was well when Nzeogwu and others struck in January 1966.

Nzeogwus coup was not an Igbo coup, even one of the main coup plotters, Major Ademoyega, said so in his book. Besides, Major Ademoyega, Captain Adeleke and Lt Oyewole were all major participants of the coup who were not Igbos. Even Northern foot soldiers were by far the largest participants of the coup.

Nzeogwus coup was initially popular with Nigerians. There was no way civilians could have carried on in that situation. With much of the military in support of the coup and Nzeogwu a national hero, there was no way civilians could have continued and Ironsi could not have handed over to civilians within 6 months.

Decree 34 promulgated by Ironsi was done with the full acceptance of the supreme military council and not something Ironsi alone made. Also, decree 34 did not abolish the regions. All it did was centralise Government which is how all military Governments run. The Regions still had a high degree of autonomy while Ironsi was there. Had Gowon and his Northern cohorts not abolished reagions and created states, Nigeria would have returned to the way things were run whenever civilians returned.

If Ironsi can be blamed for making a mistake with decree 34, what happend in Aburi was daylight robbery. When a loose federation had already been negotiated, Gowon went back on the agreement and created states which forced Ojukwu to seceed the Eastern Region out of Nigeria. Funnily enough, you will see people criticise Ironsi for decree 34 but hardly see the same people ever criticise Gowon for braking the Aburi agreement, creating states, taking away resource control and creating a worse unitary form of Government than Ironsi ever did.

Decree 34 actually abolished the regions. In fact by that decree Ironsi changed Nigeria's official name from 'Federal Republic of Nigeria' to just 'Republic of Nigeria' meaning that the federating units had ceased to exist. In the broadcast in which he announced that decree he even argued that intense regionalism had failed the country and just had to be replaced with a very strong centrist structure.
Recall that Gowon, in an attempt to placate the North, made his own decree 56 which reversed Ironsi's unification decree. If Ironsi's decree 34 did not abolish the regions and centralize the government, then why did Gowon find it necessary to make his own decree 56?
Your claims on Aburi Accord are quite distorted. The truth is that after Gowon reversed Ironsi's decree and returned Nigeria to the four structure status quo ante amidst other on-going attempts to reverse all other undesirable changes Ironsi made, the continued retaliatory massacre of Igbos by Hausas in the North which had gone full swing prior to that time forced Ojukwu's eyes open to the the futility of the 'One-Nigeria' pursuit which Zik had inspired in him and in all Igbo's all along. The assassination of Ironsi also further demoralized Ojukwu so much that the combined despondency from these two ugly scenarios actuated him into seeking a structure even looser than the status quo ante which Gowon had just started returning Nigeria to by his decree 56 among others. This culminated in the scheduling of the Aburi meeting as demanded by Ojukwu and to which Gowon consented on the assumption that Ojukwu like everyone else wanted a return to the full pre-Ironsi structure. At the meeting however Ojukwu's proposals went beyond the previous federal arrangement to pure confederacy. Out of ignorance of the difference between federalism and Confederacy Gowon agreed to Ojukwu's confederal proposals. But on return to Nigeria, the majority back home were shocked to see that Gowon had ignorantly accepted confederacy as against their expectation of a return squarely to the purely federal structure which Ironsi derailed. This made them advise Gowon to renege. So Gowon's reneging on the Aburi Accord was not his own personal decision but that of the majority of the other Nigerian tribes who expected to see their much cherished federalism restored but were shocked to see Confederacy being offered in the name of Aburi Accord. Of course they had to reject it flat.
Consequently, Ojukwu felt frustrated and declared Biafra. Gowon then had to, as a strategy to frustrate Ojukwu, begin to undo the reversals he had already made to Ironsi's changes. This included a re-centralization of the structure to weaken Ojukwu. Had Ojukwu's proposals at Aburi just stopped at federalism and not icontaminated with elements of confederacy, the accord would not have been rejected on arrival in Nigeria. Had Ojukwu not declared Biafra, Gowon would not have started reversing himself on returning Nigeria to the true federalism we had before the advent of Ironsi.
I agree with you that the prevailing circumstances in the first republic were tending towards anarchy. But we all know that the circumstances were as a result of Tafawa Balewa's abuse of power at the centre. If the centre's abuse of its little powers could caused so much anarchy, then commonsense and logic dictated that whoever came to the rescue with sincere intentions, either through a coup or whichever way else, should have further removed more powers from the centre to forestall the kind of abuse which Balewa perpetrated. But Ironsi came in and ironically began to strengthen the centre in the name of arresting the drift into anarchy. Was it not the powers at the centre that caused the anarchical circumstance in the first instance? This is my issue with Ironsi.
Gowon was too ignorant to have known that a constitution could be freely tampered with by a military officer had Ironsi not set the precedent.

Fremancipation:
First of all it was ironsi and ojukwu that made the first coup by Nzeogu not to succeed as planned.They led the counter coup that disrupted the first coup.

Do you also know that during ironsi time, the military was seen as the savior and they brought stability to the chaos going on in the nation. Very few, apart from the north felt it was a bad idea because people were just fed up with the dirty politics going on at that time.

BBC has a documentary online that they showed peoples reactions in Lagos after ironsi took over and most taught it was a good idea.

It was 6 months later that the north redefined the coup as an Igbo coup even though the names of the coup plotters had yourubas, south south and middle belters.

I am sure that ironsi overtime would have been pressured to return to regional government not just from other Nigerians but from igbos. We have always been the biggest critic of our own. Ask any sitting Igbo governor.


Finally, if your agenda is to lay blame on igbos but at the same time you refuse to see the need to Restructure Nigeria because you think its punishment for Igbo then you will be shocked that the outcome is actually having the opposite effect. Don't let hatred for Igbos blind you from seeing the bigger picture.

We are not talking about who planned the coup or who crushed it or who coloured it as a tribal coup.
We are talking of how federalism was dismantled and by who.
That has nothing to do with the coup which was an event of its own.
That Ironsi stopped the coup and then took over power for himself removes the credit from him. The objective of the five majors' coup was for military to take over. So if Ironsi, after stopping the coup, took over as a military man himself then of what use was his stopping the coup? His action yielded the same result as that of the boys whose coup he stopped.
So what was the difference? Truncation of democracy was going to be the result of both.
Moreover, of what benefit was his stopping of the coup after all the targeted people had been killed including innocent civilians and innocent army officer.
The fact that killing of Igbo's continued under Ironsi's regime and that even he himself was later killed means that his taking over power did not really stop the chaos.
Like I already said, it would have been correct to say he stopped the coup if and only if he had sworn in Dipcharima, replaced the slain premiers with their deputies and left the stage as a honourable professional army officer.
Military take over was military take over whether by Ironsi or by the five majors. If I must choose I would have even preferred that Ironsi never stopped the coup because the five majors' government would not have dismantled federalism since Nzeogwu in one of his interviews with journalists before he died described Aguyi Ironsi's unification decree as silly.
However, stories of the details of the coup do not alter the fact that Ironsi and Ojukwu put us in this mess. This is the simple truth Igbo's should accept and stop creating the impression that Northerners are the cause of our woes. It is only when we all mutually admit where our own brothers were wrong that we can succeed in restoring our true federalism. Blaming others and trying to rationalize the ugly quotas our kinsmen contributed to this mess will not engender the trust and cooperation we seek. If each and every Southern tribe is ready to admit where their own kinsmen were wrong in their actions in those trying times. I tell you that we will get Nigeria restructured within 6 months whether the North likes it or not.

Fremancipation:
Yes I and so many other Igbos will be fighting against it because we hate injustice. Any unjust system is unsustainable and a recipe for disaster. Igbos from my upbringing know this very well.

In addition, Igbo societies are traditionally democratic. That's why we never had empire or tried to conquer our neighbors. Example is ogoni people who are a very small group surrounded by Igbo clans yet our ancestors never conquered or colonized them. They maintain their language and culture even though they were surrounded by Igbo clans.

Then why did you people not join all the other tribes when they were cautioning and fighting against Ironsi and Ojukwu for laying the foundation of this unjust system by centralizing the civil service?
I have never read it anywhere that any Igbo individual or group came out to publicly condemn Ironsi and Ojukwu while the duo unified the civil service by military fiat.
How come the Igbo's whom you claim are culturally democratic watched their own equally supposedly democratic brothers subvert a democratically prepared constitution with unilateral military fiat?
Mind you that each initial regional civil service was being paid their salaries from the revenue purses of their respective regions. So unifying the civil service already signaled a unifying of all revenue sources to the centre as a decentralized centre with 25% remittances could not have been able to take over salary responsibility for a unified civil service without equally unifying the revenue sources to the centre. So Ironsi's unification of the civil service was a very clear step towards the eventual centralization of the revenue sources, thus a destruction of resource control.
Why was it that no single Igbo man publicly disagreed with his civil service unification as other tribes did, if truly Igbo's hate oppression and injustice?

Fremancipation:
So your rationale is that Igbo man created the unitary system which was wrong but because Hausa man continued it for 50 years after multiple genocide and multiple coups, we must continue to remain in it just to punish igbos.

Well I have breaking news for you. The unitary system which you all have been supporting is actually hurting Nigeria more than it has hurt ndigbo specifically.

Igbos are the most adaptable group and are doing much better than the rest of other groups in Nigeria. So if your idea of continuing the unitary system was to punish igbos, you have failed woefully in that mission.

And finally because of it, all the poor Asian nations that Nigeria was richer than in the 60s and 70s such as South Korea has surpassed us and left us in the dust. Good luck with your punishment for ndigbo.

It didn't work for awolowo or Buhari and it will not work for you guys. cc Deadlytruth

Assuming Ironsi had not been killed and overthrown and his government had been left to entrench the unitary system with Igbo's perpetually in control of the centre under that arrangement as Ironsi envisaged, would you yourself have by now been asking for a scrapping of unitary system and demanding a return to the initial strictly federal structure? Be honest!

No one is suggesting that we must maintain this unjust status quo in order to punish Igbo's for introducing it. Far from that! Al we are saying is that Igbo's should stop playing this innocent victims card creating the impression that they are completely blameless as regards the failed state of Nigeria. In an atmosphere of honesty every one should admit where and how his own tribe contributed to the derailment of Nigeria from our strictly federal structure to this unitary system mess which seems impossible to get out from. And if you ask me, I am even of the opinion that the North which we Southerners heap all the blames on are actually the least guilty. They were initially so conservative of their agricultural economy built on groundnut farming that they did not initially eye oil revenue from another region. But Southerners, particularly of the Igbo extraction, kept on calling them sectional in orientation and tribalistic for their conservative stand on issues. But when they decided to become "liberal" and "nationalistic" in outlook and revenue seeking, we again began to call them oil revenue parasites. What exactly did we want?

HopeAtHand:
And they are now asking that it be returned back to the initial system, a system that is in best interest of all. Is dat not good??

The way they are doing the asking is not good because in doing so they are refusing to confess that they were the ones who took us away from that structure in the first instance but trying to create the impression that other tribes did that.

Recall that all that was in January immediately he seized power from civilians. He, Ironsi, would later on in May of that same year promulgate the Unification Decree which dissolved the regions and replaced them with 35 provinces to be headed by soldiers whom he hoped would report to him. In what kind of federation do the heads of the federating units report to the centre? In fact the best way Ironsi would have controlled the situation was to simply court martial the coupists as a deterrent to other young soldiers against the future, replace the slain premiers with their deputies, release all the political prisoners and reconcile them, swear in Alhaji Dipcharima whom the NPC, as the senior coalition partner of the NCNC, threw up as replacement for murdered Balewa, and leave the stage as a professional military man.
With that our democracy would have been preserved and spared of the long chain of subsequent coups, the likes of Gowon, Murtala Mohammed, Obj, IBB, Abacha, Shagari, etc would never have ever tasted power, the National tragedy of war which took innocent lives in millions would have been avoided and Ironsi's name would have gone down into history as a hero of democracy in the whole of Africa with a legacy shining brightly against the African leaders sit tight attitude. Perhaps he might not have even died by now. Ironsi was just a man of greed and very poor sense of judgement.

Fremancipation:
Ironsi did it to bring things back under control after the coup. The nation was very chaotic that period and the only way as a military man he knew to control things was to set up a civilian command structure that mirrored the military. He never dissolved the regions. They were left intact.

You get it wrong again. The cause of the anarchy then was all about which party formed alliances with which and who was perceived to have rigged elections and censuses. It had absolutely nothing to do with the civil service or structure of government. So one expected Ironsi to have busied himself with the reviewing or cancelling the disputed elections or censuses or better still calling all the politicians to a round table to address these issues. But he left all that completely and went after the civil service which by law is not even connected to politics and politicians whose misunderstandings were the cause of the problem. How exactly was the unification of the civil service supposed to quell the riots in the western region, calm the Northerners over the overnight gruesome assassinations of their leading lights, convince the Northern military officers that justice would be done, placate the supporters of Akintola who was murdered, placate Northerners over the shooting of Ahmadu Bello's wife directly on her pregnant abdomen, placate the Yoruba's and Northerners over the cruel killing of a lot of their fine innocent top rank gentlemen officers?
All these were the real potential sources of further anarchy. So how could an act of tinkering with the civil service have addressed all those issues? What concerns civil service with the assassination of politicians and military officers?
If at all one would even relate the issues with the structure, then one can safely say that the anarchy was partly caused by an abuse and misuse of powers of the central government headed by Tafawa Balewa. Now if the centre could so abuse power to cause anarchy, simple logic therefore dictated that whoever sincerely came with the mission of arresting the situation and returning normalcy should have even reduced the powers of the centre to prevent such abuse in future meaning a further decentralization of all sectors including civil service. But ironically Ironsi unified the civil service thereby further concentrating more powers at the very centre whose abuse of power caused the mess in the first instance. So Ironsi was the cause of our problems any way you look at it.

Fremancipation:
No matter how many times you guys repeat this lies, it will never become true.

Ironsi left the regions intact the way they were. He only nationalized all the civil service in the regions and put it under military command.

It was actually coward Gowon that dissolved the region through state creation.

Let us even assume you are correct. But by nationalizing the civil service Ironsi made it known to hitherto ignorant Gowon that anyone can bastardize the constitution without following due process and go free with it. And Gowon only followed suit.
Why nationalize the civil service when no one asked him for that? In whose interest did he do that?
It is like saying Adam only ate the fruit and caused the sin of disobedience only and therefore cannot be blamed for every other sin that came to be as a ripple effect if his disobedience.

[quote author=caleboxylic post=52486876]You call it simple restructing after your people rejected aburri agreement. We are waiting at the NASS to vote against it ok. 3million biafrans died beacuse You people said no to resource control . God Will punish any NASS member from Biafra That Will support it.
After Biafra, You people should negotiate with Nigeria for resource control ok. Myopic set of people. As ojukwu told Wiwa' good morning to all of u fighting for resource control". Biafra or nothing. Biafra without ikwerre, izon, oron, urhobo, itsekeiri, Edo and others is my dream country. Biafra of igbo nation, ibibio, anang, efik, ogoja, igala and idoma if they all wish to join is my dream country.

I mentioned igala and idoma because of Wawa people. Ibibio, efik, ogoja and anang because we all suffered during and after Biafra war. Even the 20pounds policy from devilish Awolowo affected them.[/qtjrae

In 1960 we started with 75% resource control, but just 6 years later two Biafrans named Aguyi Ironsi and Ojukwu dismantled it and forcefully replaced it with this unitary system against the advice of the ikwerre, izon, oron, urhobo, Hausa Fulani Yorubas, itsekeiri, Edo, ibibio, anang, efik, ogoja, igala and idoma.

Aburi Accord was rejected by all these tribes mentioned above because it did not really seek to return us to the truly federal structure which Ironsi and Ojukwu abolished but was a document proposing confederacy which was entirely new to Nigeria and Nigerians.

Fremancipation:
Don't mind them they have been waiting for stupid restructure for more than 50 years. Ok let's continue. At least biafrans are talking the talk and walking the walk. Not waiting for useless restructure that will never happen.

Actually Nigeria started with the kind of beautiful structure the Niger Deltans now hope and pray we return to. But sadly, it was the Biafrans that dismantled that good structure and replaced it with this current one we all now complain against.

Fremancipation:
Those hoping on restructuring never learn from history. Why did Gowan reneged on the aburi accord even though it did exactly what Niger deltans is begging for today? Why?

To northerners, restructuring is almost like breaking away because at the end of the day, restructuring will deny them the unlimited access to your oil which they enjoy today.

That was a bit missed by you.
In actual fact Nigeria started exactly with the kind of structure which the Niger Delta currently begs for. If that structure was left to stay, no one would have been asking for restructuring today as it was a structure which summarily lguaranteed 75% resource control. But unfortunately, just six years into the life of that structure, an Igbo man, Aguyi Ironsi, used military might to pioneer the dismantling of it by a unilateral alteration of the constitution at a time the public did not complain about the constitution let alone ask for a review of it. Ironsi ignored every wise counsel to retrace his steps but he was too adamant to see the terrible future danger which others could see in an overcentralized system of governance for a country like Nigeria. By that ill-conceived and myopic step, Ironsi set in motion a mechanism which would later lead Nigeria to a failed state status by totally corrupting the constitution from its strictly federal form to this unjust and criminal unitary form which the Niger Delta now seeks restructuring.
The Aburi Accord was NOT a proposal for a return to the federalism Ironsi dismantled but rather a proposal for the adoption of confederacy which was altogether new to Nigeria, hence its being rejected by the Niger Delta and indeed the rest Nigeria. If Aburi Accord proposals were exactly a demand for a return to the federal structure we enjoyed in the status quo ante before Ironsi came, no one would have rejected it.

Kenechi1:
Edo people made a huge mistake. In 5 months time they will start complaining about this obaseki guy. Edo people I just want to say that we warned you, but you guys failed to listen.

Unfortunately you did not give details as to why you believe Edos made a mistake by preferring Obaseki.
In actual fact Edos decision to reject Iyamu was borne out of the need not to repeat the mistake they made in 1999 by voting in the Lucky Igbinedion government which this same Iyamu was part of and which ruined Edo State so completely that Edo would have collapsed and got merged with another state if not for Oshiomhole's advent. Of all the 36 states Edo was the hardest hit by OBJ/PDP misrule from 1999 to 2007. Edos learn lessons from their past and don't forget easily. They also do not forgive. It is not like Ekiti where Fayose, after many years of being impeached for fraud, got voted back into power. Such can't happen in Edo. Iyamu had been tested in Edo State long ago and he failed. It is obvious you lack deep understanding of the nature and political philosophy of Edo people. That is the only state in Nigeria for now where people vote based on real issues only rather than the general Nigerian ethno-religious and mundane basis of voting. Let Obsseki fail us like Igbinedion/Iyamu failed us and you'll see Edo people change to another party totally different from PDP and APC. They could try APGA or even an Edo home grown party. Remember that Edo became an AC state before all the Yoruba States except Lagos? That tells you Edos don't care about all these tribal perceptions being attached to parties but the parties manifesto.

themall:
DAMAGE CONTROL?! Or telling the truth? Evidently, another independent!

What truth is in that? I thought you people hammer hard on the Bible as being the only authority on spiritual matters? How come you people made a prediction that was not in any way recorded anywhere in the Bible and you call it the truth?

SaffronSpice:
Check the link for biblical citations.

So biblical citations have 1914 in them? All I see here is damage control. If it were another denomination that made this blunder no rationalization would have been accepted by JWs as such would become their headlines in Awake week after week.

SaffronSpice:
The statement about 1914 was symbolic and not a literal prediction as wrongly believed.

1914 is considered to be the year that marked the begining of the last days;you'll be convinced that it came to pass if you study the timeline of that year.

The most conspicous proof being World War I started on July 24 1914.

For any true believer in Christ only the prophesies recorded in the Bible, whether literal or symbolic can be trusted. As far as this 1914 prophesy is not in the scriptures, then it is based on human knowledge and human wisdom thus invalid and meaningless spiritually.

Jozzy4:
so you can still say they don't have wrong expectation after typing the bold ?

The bolded refers to the time they wanted/hoped their expectations would be fulfilled and not the expectations themselves. Please read between the lines. Their expectations were right but their timing was wrong. Simply put! Are you now okay?

JMAN05:
I don't agree, even the apostles had wrong expectation. Act 1:6. Christians in Thessalonians had wrong expectation too. 2thes 2:1-2.

This does not answer the question.
Neither the disciples in Acts nor the Thessalonians had a wrong expectation as their expectations were both found in the scriptures (Old Testament). What was wrong about their expectations (prophecies in the actual sense) was time of fulfilment. In both cases Jesus and Paul respectively made them understand that their expectations were correct but that were going to happen much later in the future. This is not same with the JWs whose expectation was nowhere to be found in the scriptures but purely man-made and hence failed to happen and never likely to happen in future. That is the context in which the first guy accused you people of being associated with mistakes which is itself an evidence of not really being guided by God but by human wisdom.

JMAN05:
I don't agree, even the apostles had wrong expectation. Act 1:6. Christians in Thessalonians had wrong expectation too. 2thes 2:1-2.

This does not answer the question.
Neither the disciples in Acts nor the Thessalonians had a wrong expectation as their expectations were both found in the scriptures (Old Testament). What was wrong about their expectations (prophecies in the actual sense) was time of fulfilment. In both cases Jesus and Paul respectively made them understand that their expectations were correct but that were going to happen much later in the future. This is not same with the JWs whose expectation was nowhere to be found in the scriptures but purely man-made and hence failed to happen and never likely to happen in future. That is the context in which the first guy accused you people of being associated with mistakes.

Ishilove:
I'm an 'afonja'?? Lol. And yet you call me a bigot when you clearly are the bigoted one. So every one who opposes you people's deluded ideals is automatically a Yoruba, or 'afonja' as you put it?

Your words are the rants of a bigot, not mine because you have proven that bigotry runs deep in your veins. You do not know where I am from, but you have automatically assumed I'm Yoruba. Hypocrite

Wake up from this primitiveness. It will take you people no where.

Re-IPOB, RENIPOB, TRIPOB...Clowns

I'm done trading words with you.

Astala vista

Don't mind them. One wonders what gives them the conviction that no single SS person can ever have aversion for them but that anyone who opposes them must be a Yoruba. They assume ALL SS people are in their support despite elementary statistics tells us that even in nature no distribution goes 100%. And ironically enough only a very meaningless percentage of SS people (especially those ignorant of history) actually have solidarity for them. The greater irony is that not everyone from even their own SE Region supports their quest yet they assume everyone from the SS (an entirely different people) sympathizes with them. Very illogical mindset. A people swimming in such a level of self-delusion against common sense and all established scientific and statistical principles!

bettercreature:
You are playing with your future.Prof Sagay can never be poor again he is just trying to help us but you are here supporting looters
If its true that Gen Buratai and Dambazzau are corrupt let them enjoy it whilst it last,the next president be it PDP or KOWA will prosecute them

When Ribadu politicized EFCC and was thereby harassing only Obansajo's political foes especially of the AC back then while ignoring OBJ's PDP loyalists whose more massive corrupt acts were more evidenced some Nigerians consoled themselves with utterances similar to yours above. We were asked whether those AC guys were not really corrupt and told that another government would come and probe OBJ and those his allies too. But this is almost 10 years afterwards and three different governments has come after OBJ but NONE of them has probed OBJ and those his allies as we were told would happen by those who defended the highly selective anti-corruption war of OBJ. The irony is that OBJ may never really be probed by any future government.

todayboy:
They want to share Nigeria money to northern farmers

When CBN start giving loan

Buhari is a failure

The report has it that Edo State (a Southern state) got the largest amount while Taraba State (a Northern state) got the least amount. How then does that translate to them wanting to share Nigeria's money to Northern farmers? Is Edo now in the North and Taraba now in the South? The manner we attach this North-South Dichotomy in everything even against glaring evidence is mostly responsible for our sorry and failed state.

Fight2Finish:
Afonja are you not ashamed of yourself? For ones be responsible to your people, even if it's to do picking pocket at least you will be remembered for something.

Only Igbos are land grabbers in this country due to their own tiny landmass, hence they fake SS and accuse Yotubas of same since they feel everyone must be like them. A person who has a bad habit is quick to suspect others of same. Igbos and guilty conscience!
Yorubas' landmass is more than Igbos' thus they don't grab land so they can't be faking SS. The SS people themselves are now speaking for Igbos to hear us clearly.
You have muslims too in Ebonyi and Enugu. There are Igbo muslim clerics called Sheik Chkwuma Sani, etc. So stop fooling yourself.

ShootToKill:
Illiterate moronudeen is arguing against great Nzeogwu's leadership of the Coup. A fact known to All and sundry, why should we take anything else that comes from your oblong head seriously. According to hin Nzeogwu and Achuzia from SS hate Igbo but loves afonjarudeens.
Continue with throwing nylon bag Sh1t from Oshogbo to Oyo, it's what you are tailor-made for. Sound Intellect is not the forte for you Afonjarudeens.

Stop fooling yourself and go read the memos of Ojukwu himself in which he clarified it succinctly that Ifeajuna was the mastermind of the coup.
We the SS are not same with SE. You can cry a river but that does not change this simple fact. SS has come to stay. The Old Eastern Region is forever history. The minorities there have been set free from your clutches. You can call them yorubas, Hausas or even Chadians out of the frustration and trauma their freedom from your captivity caused you. SS in not SE. Go away parasites and stinking oil thieves.

39xtr90r:
Look at a previous vomit of this unstable, treacherous and hypocritical Deadlytrash who has spent many months on NL lamenting on Igbos quest for self-determination:

"In one Nigeria we all remain. We will never allow you (Igbos) go..."
- The Notorious Deadlytrash of NL


Despicable Deadlytrash from an abominable Uneme-Nekhua clan, the concoction of cow urine and dungs your Fulani masters fed you with must be having a heavy toll on you.

Your diabolic Uneme-Nekhua folks shall gladly sacrifice your wretched soul in your evil forest. Your wicked people shall freely distribute your carcass as meat for sale. And so shall you meet your Waterloo...sooner than later.

Demented 'We SS' wannabe, if you like cry blood your portion and that of your juju-infested clan remains with your Fulani masters in OduaArewanistan republic.

Frustrated crude oil criminals and people-and-land-grabbing thieves cum murderous parasites, at this juncture you must consider taking a dose of rat poison like your god, Awolowo...to at lease terminate this your unending torment and miseries.

Mill.erz post:
"I am Urhobo and have always been against the Biafran thing but it is slowly and steadily dawning on me that the igbos are not our enemies; intact they are our true brothers.

In Nigeria as a whole, the Igbo's are the only group with the same interests with the Niger Delta. They want True Federalism, we want same. They have proven that they're not out for our resources. They supported our brother Jonathan even more than us and are still ready to support any Niger Deltan running for any political position.

In the ND, you can never hear of igbos clashing with other ethnic groups and that's largely because of the sense of oneness.

So I stand with Niger Delta seceding with Biafr*."

Mill.erz post:
"I'm a Christian so I love everyone, igbos inclusive.

Per the bolded, it must not be named Biafra.
Igbos and us have a collective interest. In the event of seceding with the Igbo's, they will bring a lot to the table. They will obviously not be parasitic like the Hausa/Fulani's."

https://www.nairaland.com/2783724/biafra-see-what-asiri-dokubo

Asari Dokubo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6gl7cLkxzk

My grandmother Princess Okukuba W.D.Goodhead...immediate senior sister to His Majesty The King...was almost executed by firing squad by the invading Nigerian Military led by her Nephew Capt. Erasmus J.T.Princewill son of her elder brother King J.T.Princewill,Amachree X11....on her support for Biafra.

My grand Aunty who was nickname Madam Biafr*....grand mother of a former Foreign Minister of Nigeria was taking through very painful torture before execution.
My maternal uncle one of the first lawyers in the Eastern Region never return home till his death because of his support for Biafra.
My father was a Biafran officer in the medical Corp.

My statement is recorded on tape....I never said we were taught....I said we were told many stories by our elders which we now discovered to be false.

On abandon property.....my Father or Mother did not benefit from properties left behind by Igbos....infact my family lost a lot of properties at Iguta.

All my great grand Mothers except one were Igbos.

The ancestral stool I occupy today...Edi Abali was founded by an Igboman from Abom in Abam in 1782.

I am an Igbo man because Allah gracious allowed Ijaw, Igbo and Bini blood to flow in mine veins......I am not begging to be Igbo.As I will not beg to be Gambari,Yoruba or Efik .

-Asari Uzodinma Dokubo

I have always said it that you are a big fat fool. Don't you see that Dokubo mentioned Bini as a component of his blood? Yet you keep saying Edo is not SS. In due course Dokubo will remove the Igbo tag as he is just using it to fool Igbos in his quest on behalf of the SS for a return to the federalism crushed by Ironsi. SE is not SS. Did Jonathan not also claim Igbo to fool you people? Some of you Igbos now even suggest that Fayose's "boldness" must be due to having an Igbo father and yoruba mother. A tribe so gullible. Others fool them and they too fool themselves.
Asari Dokubo is a muslim and Biafra is going to be a country of extremely bigoted nominal Christians. So Asari Dokubo will eventually not accept to be in a country where he will be persecuted for his religious belief.
We don't want a major tribe in the probable future republic of Southern minorities. A single dominant tribe will bring in born-to-rule philosophy again and it will be impossible to vote them out of power when they start misruling. Go and face your erosion ravaged and painfully tiny states and stop sticking to the SS because of oil. Smelly and stinking oil thief.

39xtr90r:
Deadlytrash, keep fooling yourself and parading as 'We SS' on NL.

madenigga post: "Edo man, am a Rivers man and from the southsouth o,
the true Niger deltan not those added by constitution, and I wud like to tell u that If Nigeria breaks u guys are on ur own. We SS igbos are singing it out to u ppl so dst tomorrow u ppl wont shout that u were betrayed."

Frustrated crude oil criminals and people-and-land-grabbing thieves cum murderous parasites!

You will die of the envy and irreparable heartbreak that Edo is part of the SS. There is nothing you can do about it. You can go a break your head in anger over the fact that your miserable sad east region was given five states by the "One-Nigeria" you invented. Shame on you. The SS acronym is BRACED meaning BayelsaRiversAkwaibomCrossriverEdoDelta
Your tears can't undo it. Your faking of Rivers native can't undo it. Ntorrrrrrrrrrrrr..........! You can come and lick my arse as you so desperately pray to wake up and become a SS person overnight. What a wish! Desperate oil thief and stinking land grabber!

ShootToKill:
Desperate Afonjarudeen spare us this long illegible crap and face your rickkety brown roof oshogbo.

Reffering to rochas and amaechi won't stop you from fling your Nylon-sh1t from your oshogbo mud house. We all know that APC controls what enters Rochad and Amechi stomachs and they are more loyal to their stomach than they are to their people. #Efulefuleism.

We also know that many monsurudeens are illiterates who prefer arabic school to conventional schools, if not you would have been literate enough to know that the leader of the coup that you refer Nzeogwu and Okafor were from the place you call SS today. Who in your oily Afonjarudeen skull hate Igbos.

I'm sure Nzeogwu and okafor 'hated Igbos but loved your oblong yorubamudeen hammerhead.

Keep showing your civil war kwashiokor head for the world to see that you haven't learnt your lessons.
So the mere fact that Amaechi and Rochas are in APC makes them Yoruba? You really confirmed your illiteracy. I guess Fayose and Mimiko are now Igbos for being in PDP. What happened to logical reasoning? So bigoted a tribe. You people are a conquered and completely defeated tribe in Nigeria. The miserable majority now seeking relevance by attaching to minorities. They are not ashamed. Ijaw slaves and arse lickers for oil.
We have fed you enough in Nigeria. It is time. Nzeogwu was not the leader of the coup but Ifeajuna from today's SE was. Nzeogwu's name only became used to describe the coup due to his demonstrated level of honest commitment to the patriotic ideals which Ifeajuna and the other SE Igbos deceived him into believing whereas they actually had an ethnic cleansing motive in mind. Nzeogwu and Ademoyega were recruited into the plot just 3 months to the day of action. Only in your preposterous logic would a lately recruited accomplice be called the planner and leader of a plot. Nzeogwu later granted an interview in which he openly declared that the pattern of killing betrayed the tribal agenda of the SE Igbos unknown to them the others. If not why did the SE igbos tip Zik off far before the day of business? Why did they refuse to assign any of the targeted politicians to Ademoyega to kill?
Nzeogwu would have been from the SS today but that would not have changed the fact that he had no tribalistic intention unlike the SE Igbos. He would not have spared Zik or Okpara had he been in charge of the Southern operation. That tells you how honest a SS person could be and how dubious the SE could be.
We the SS (BRACED states - you can go and die for all I care for saying so again) have fed you for too long. It is time to shake off you parasites, land grabbers and oil thieves from our bodies. Without our oil you'll starve and die. We say NO to a joint SE-SS republic where another Aguyi Ironsi will come and dismantle federalism and vandalise the constitution again. Greedy oil armed robbers!

Hypocrites! May I remind you that the Asari Dokubo whose support you seek towards creating your imaginary SS-SE Biafra republic is a muslim named Mujaheed Asari Dokubu, yet you hypocritically claim Biafra detests islam and would have nothing to do with it. Then where will you place Dokubu a muslim? Since Asari Dokubo's Bayelsa has oil his being a Mujahideen can be overlooked, right? You people are just a big fraud. Biafra. To even say the least there are indegenous Igbo muslims in the Afikpo LGAs of Ebonyi and this fool is here deceiving himself with anti-islam posturing for Biafra. Very hypocritic tribe.

39xtr90r:
Frustrated Uneme-Nekhua bigot from a deluded generation of crude oil criminals and people-and-land-grabbing thieves cum murderous parasites,

It was Gowon who abolished the regions in July 1966. But in January 5, 1967 Ojukwu pushed for a Confederation which was agreed to and signed by Gowon with the Edo, Yoruba and Northern representatives in Aburi, Ghana. The confederal system of government was better than the regionalism Yorubas and their Edo cohorts claim Ironsi destroyed. 

In 1972 Gowon with the support of Awolowo enacted and enforced the Indigenization decree which led to the collapse of the Nigerian economy.
To add insult to the festering injury Olusegun Obasanjo promulgated the Land Use Decree (now Land Use Act) in 29th of March, 1978.

By the provision of the Land Use Decree of 1978, the inhabitants of the oil producing communities were turned into squatters in their own ancestral homes, as land where oil is explored, produced, transported and stored were decreed to belong to the state long after political independence in 1960. The existence and application of the Land Use Act of 1978 contributed to the present state of neglect, under-development and the insecurity of the region.

HOW NIGERIA'S BREAKUP IN 1966 WAS SCUTTLED BY MIDWESTERNERS (EDOS) - Umaru Dikko
https://www.nairaland.com/233153/north-would-have-regretted-nigerias-break-up-in-1966-Umaru-Dikko

HOW ABURI ACCORD OF JAN 1967 WAS SCUTTLED BY MIDWESTERNERS (EDOS), LEADING TO THE CIVIL WAR - Retired Lt. Fola Oyewole
https://www.nairaland.com/2854914/why-fought-side-ojukwu-biafra-fola-oyewole

https://www.nairaland.com/3143222/biafra-memo-oba-akenzua-frustrated-implementation-of-aburi-accord-january-1967
http://www.punchng.com/biafra-memo-akenzua-aburi/

THE ACTION OF ENAHORO IN SCUTTLING THE CONFEDERATION PLAN - Tanko Yakassai
http://nigerianpilot.com/restructuring-calls-fears-igbos-yakassai/

'We SS' wannabe, face OduaArewanistan republic and concentrate on the business of the Unemes, Yorubas and Hausa-Fulanis who colluded to loot and ruin the fortunes of this fraudulent union.

@666 the beast and antichrist
representative on NL, you have consistently
shied away from answering questions
relating to the very things that led to the
war, but you just keep hammering on the
war with false information. The war did not
just start. Things led to it, and Igbos were
behind all of those things. Here are the
questions again as follows: 1. Why did Zik begin to disturb national
peace by abandoning his region and
heading to Ibadan to seek to rule another
region despite the regions were created in
the first instance to enable each one rule
itself and not one region ruling another
directly or indirectly?
2. Why did Zik; after seeing with his own
eyes the greatness, world power status,
justice, equity, fairness, disciplined and
hardworking citizenry, etc which the
practice of federalism had conferred on the
ethnically diverse America; return home to
advocate unitary system ( disguised as One-
Nigeria) for an equally ethnically diverse
Nigeria? Was that an indication that Zik was
genuinely seeking a Nigeria that guarantees
equity for all or a Nigeria for Igbos only?
3. Why did Zik decide against commonsense
to team up with the Feudalist and born-to-
rule-chanting North through the NCNC-NPC
coalition, which made him a slave partner,
instead of the proposed all-South AG-NCNC
alliance in which he (Zik) would have been
the prime minister with Awolowo as
Finance Minister- an arrangement which
would have placed Nigeria on the path of
good governance and very rapid
development thus eliminating the need for
Nzeogwu coup which finally worsened
everything and led to the avoidable war?
4. The whole of the present day Benue State
and the eastern part of present Kogi State
were originally parts of the Southern
Protectorate as at 1900. With that the
Southern Region had a stronger negotiating
numerical strength than the North, and it
remained like that till 1950. At the point of
Regions creation Benue and Eastern Kogi
should have therefore naturally fallen into
Eastern Region, but while they were being
fraudulently carved into the already too big
Northern Region the Zik who should be
leading the resistance to that from Enugu
was far away in Ibadan crying that Awolowo
did not allow him to become the premier of
Western Region. Why did Zik abandon the
interest of his own home in pursuit of his
personal ambition elsewhere?
5. Why did Ifeajuna kill all other politicians
and innocent military officers but left
untouched the Zik, Okpara and Osadebe
who were neck deep in the corruption and
collaboration with the North he himself
cited as his basis for the coup?
6. Why did Igbos celebrate the assassination
of Bello and Balewa openly in the streets of
Kaduna to spite Hausa-Fulanis?
7. Why did Ifeajuna tip Zik off about the
coup meant to kill all the top politicians? If
he wasn't the one who tipped Zik off then
why did he go ahead with the execution of
the coup after knowing that one of the
major targets (Zik) had escaped?
8. Why did Ironsi, rather than act as a
professional soldier by installing
Dipcharima, replacing the slain premiers
with their deputies and then leaving the
stage, decide to take power for himself?
9. Why did Ironsi refuse to punish the
coupists but shielded them from justice?
10. Why did ironsi not release all detained
politicians and then invite them to a round
table to reconcile them but chose to keep
some in detention while releasing others?
11. Why did Ironsi dismantle federalism
despite public disapproval?
These are the remotest causes of the
eventual war and hatred for Igbos. It is
when you address these issues raised that I
will begin to take you seriously. Until you
answer them you remain a foolish rebel
without course and an ineffectual buffoon.

39xtr90r:
Deadlytrash, keep fooling yourself and parading as 'We SS' on NL.

madenigga post: "Edo man, am a Rivers man and from the southsouth o,
the true Niger deltan not those added by constitution, and I wud like to tell u that If Nigeria breaks u guys are on ur own. We SS igbos are singing it out to u ppl so dst tomorrow u ppl wont shout that u were betrayed."

Frustrated crude oil criminals and people-and-land-grabbing thieves cum murderous parasites!

No Rivers man would say such. Only an Igbo man faking Rivers origin would say such. Edo is part and parcel of SS. In fact the first ever SS governors meeting after the region got created was held in Benin and titled "A handshake across the Niger". We now have the SS states acronym as BRACED states and there is NOTHING the jealous Sad East can do about it. They can only cry and cry over Edo being in the SS but can never change it. The SS if for all southern minorities previously oppressed by Wazobia. It is not even about oil or the Niger Delta Geographical feature. Even the Rivers state of a thing is not entirely covered by the estuary. Over 65% of it is located outside the Estuary. That a geographical feature is used to name a place does not mean that feature covers every part of that place. By your preposterous Biafrauud logic a state like Borno is not part of Nigeria since it is not in the Niger area whic means sharing boundary exactly with River Niger. Imo state is named after River Imo, but does that mean River Imo ramifies through every part of Imo State? Ever silly Biafrauud and his senseless logic aimed at grabbing land and stealing oil.