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Irony1:Again I am vindicated for saying you attended a bush school. So you think words like stupid, desperate, deluded, etc which you have been using without restraint are compliments? You are too depraved to live among humans. |
Irony1:He obviously is too ashamed to address the issues raised. Weren't you folks the ones who first took power illegally in the history of Nigeria and therefore setting a precedent for future recurrence? Weren't you folks the first to disrespect our sovereignty by first tampering with the constitution we first ever produced entirely by ourselves? Weren't you folks the ones who fought against secession clause because you assumed Nigeria will be yours to dominate only to later hypocritically seek the same secession when the domination plot was crushed by the cooperation of the other tribes? From One-Nigeria to Biafra. Very inconsistent souls. |
Irony1:You have not seen anything. I thought you are ready for insults? Idiot! Always using abusive language. Only a fool thinks insultive language is a virtue and that he has a monopoly of it. You will definitely unlearn from me that your silly proclivity for abusive language in debates running on facts and logic. |
Irony1:You are so pained that the evil you lots committed to derail Nigeria is being brandished right in your face. We will continue to remind you that you destroyed our good foundation by introducing coups, deriding our sovereignty by being the first to tamper with our truly we the people constitution by which we were making rapid progress, that you were the first to shed innocent blood in an independent Nigeria, that you people were too greedy to mind your business in your own regions but moving all over other regions and causing confusion all over the country in seeking to entrench your evil domination agenda deceptively packaged in the garb of calling for One-Nigeria and national unity, etc. |
Irony1:You can see that you are the miserable one. You have brazenly shown how badly educated you are. The fact that you were looking for a publicly issued authorization for the execution of a coup plot stands you out as having attended a very crude school in one remote village. You are miserable in your badly educated state of being. I guess you will call on the mods again for me replying you for first describing me as miserable. I have drawn the mods attention again now because I know you will later turn around to accuse me of being the first to call you miserable. Idiotic biafool defending Ironsi's stupidity out tribal sentiments. |
Irony1:Someone who quoted Obasanjo? So you have no personal copy of a book you so much adduce authority to? You are meant for comedy and romance sections. Your claims here have largely been self contradictory and illogical. You dodged most questions and responded with insults and innuendos obviously for lack of facts and reason. Then the worst of it is that you started with insults but later began to play the victim card. |
Irony1:You gave kudos to Gamji on his claim that there was coup in the East because it agrees with want you want your gullible readers to believe and then you carpeted his narrative on the execution because it runs against your sentiments. You don't aprobate and reprobate the same source of information. That is duplicity and intellectual fraud. |
Irony1:So Gamji and Max Silloun are more knowledgeable about the coup than Nzeogwu who was a direct participant and made it clear that there was no execution in the East? You just love lies. What we know is that Max Silloun and a host of others like Obasanjo who are sympathetic to you Igbos out of sentiments have written loads of books twisting history in favour of Igbos. Imagine Max Silloun claiming in one of his write ups that the remote cause of the Nigeria Civil War was a struggle over crude oil when even a simpleton could easily deduce that the January 15 coup laid the foundation for the chain of events that culminated in the war. Max Silloun is not an authority in Nigeria political history. If you want rawest facts on Nigeria political history then go to the National Archives or consult foreign authors who are definitely uninterested third party sources. |
Irony1:How could Obasanjo have written a book about himself and be using the third person singular in reference to himself in it? Bunkum! |
Irony1:Ironically you yourself had just referenced the same Gamji and that was why I too used it to counter you. You see how dubious you are? When you referenced the part which supports your narrative you didn't know it was full of falsehood but once someone else referenced the part which runs against your narrative it suddenly became full of falsehood in your eyes. Even a chameleon will shudder at your inconsistency and tendency to change colour. |
Irony1:As at the time of the coup Obasanjo was far away in England undergoing a military course. Was it therefore from England he was called to come back to Nigeria in a flash to prevail on Nzeogwu to hand over to Ironsi? Can you see again that you don't really know anything about Nigeria's political history? Meanwhile a supposedly smart person is looking for a public authorization given to plotters of a coup to go ahead with it. You are just so dumb. I am irritated engaging you. |
Irony1:I strongly advise you to consider comedy. You have the talent. |
Irony1:So Nzeogwu knew a coup had failed and still went ahead to make a broadcast? To achieve what exactly? You see how incoherent you sound? If a radio broadcast was to be made even in an event of failure of the coup, then Ademoyega the supposed holder of that duty should have still been the one to do that and never Nzeogwu. |
Irony1:See who is talking of smartness. The same person looking for a public authorization from the sponsors of a coup, a top secret endeavor, to the executors. What a comedian! |
Irony1:Oh, you now agree that it was only Ademoyega and Igbos that plotted the coup? So where are the Hausas and Fulani you previously argued were part of it? |
Irony1:Ademoyega was assigned with taking over the radio station after all targets had been neutralized but Nzeogwu ended up making the said radio broadcast? What an interesting irony from a monicker named irony? Can't you see you are just shooting yourself here and there? Nzeogwu clearly hijacked Ademoyega 's duty and Ademoyega was okay with it. Why not look the way of comedy? |
Irony1:I always wonder how you reason. How could Ademoyega have come out to distance himself from a coup plot he supposedly conceived according to you? The question you refuse to answer is how come a neck deep person in a plot ended up getting no single slot of targeted politicians or army officers to be killed? The glaring truth is that Ademoyega had no identifiable role in the coup. He was just a figure head. |
Irony1:And that person so involved in the conceptualization and recruitment ended up not even being assigned any of the hit list names for liquidation? Wasn't he even supposed to be the one assigning targets and did the major killings like Balewa, Okotie Eboh, Mainalari, while leaving just one or two to Ifeajuna and the rest if he really were the conceiver of the entire plot? Meanwhile Ojukwu always made it clear before he died that Ifeajuna was the architect of the whole plot |
Irony1:Ademoyega was recruited into the plot very late just to give the coup a false non-Igbo appearance. If it was really not aimed at entrenching Igbo hegemony over Nigeria, then Ademoyega should have been assigned to kill at least one Igbo politician or army officer in the hit list just the way Akintola, Sodeinde and Ademulegun being Yorubas were all assigned to Igbo members of the plot to kill. Worse still, Ademoyega wasn't even assigned any target. Didn't he know how to pull the trigger? Even in his book "Why we struck" Ademoyega couldn't say any role he played in the execution that night. He only wrote essays to justify the senseless killing of innocent politicians and his superior army officer by his friends who actually fooled him into an ethnic cleansing made to look like a revolution. |
Irony1:Adegboyega was simply fooled with the Awolowo-to-be-installed theory in order to convince him to join the plot since he was a very strong Awoist despite being a member of the Army. So tell that excuse to children in your village. |
tishbite42:According to the coup plotters, their major objective behind the coup was to create a strong center in order to promote nationalism over tribalism. Now, recall that Awolowo hated centralized system of government with a passion hence had even before independence written books and made public speechless on why Nigeria must never experiment with a strong government at the center. It was therefore public knowledge that Awolowo hated unitary system and any form of it and favored regionalism for which a lot of Igbos termed him an irredeemable tribalist. Now how then could a group of very educated young officers mostly from the tribe which perceived Awolowo as father of tribalism in Nigeria have plotted a coup aimed at eradicating tribalism but ironically preferred that very tribalistic Awolowo to come and head such a government? You can see that the theory that the coup was to install Awolowo in power does not hold water logically. |
Irony1:That still doesn't answer the simple question. Did the group of provinces operate exactly like the previous regions? If yes, then why change their name or rearrange them? Isn't that stupidity? Who were the premiers of each of the groups of provinces? Were they autonomous or reporting to the center as Ironsi commanded in his broadcast? Did they own and control their public services like the previous regions did? |
Irony1:Okay, tell us what role these so-called non-Igbo members of the plot played in the execution. Who did Adewale Adegboyega gun down on that night? Which politician or army officer was assigned to Lt. Dag Waribor or Capt. Ganiyu Adeleke to kill? Why was it that all the target politicians and officers were assigned to only the Igbo members of the plot to kill? Or are you suggesting that all these Yoruba and Northern co-plotters were watching while the Igbo members shared the targets among themselves alone and didn't question it? Each time you write you further exposu how shallow your reasoning is. |
Irony1:Nzeogwu an insider granted an interview with Ejindu in which he disclosed that they were just five in the plot. Likewise, most books written by authors who knew the details make it clear that there were just five majors in the plot. Your revisionist tales are dead on arrival. |
gragz8701:They have smuggled in even some names of Hausa, Yoruba and Fulani army officers just to create a false appearance of national spread for the coup plot whereas these Hausa and Yoruba officers were the ones Nzeogwu ordered from training ground to Ahmadu Bello's residence without them having any prior knowledge of their mission there at that odd hour of the night. |
Irony1:How come they could not kill any of the Igbo politician or officer they wanted to kill but could easily kill all the Yoruba and Northern politicians and officers they wanted to kill? Do you even listen to yourself at all? Are you not ashame of even saying this repeatedly? |
Irony1:Okay, what then did he mean by expressions like 'forner regions, abolished, National military government, Nigeria ceases to become what is known as a federation, etc'? This is the simple question you lots have been avoiding like a plague. |
Irony1:Go back and read the Gamji account thoroughly to see when Okpara assisted Ifeajuna out to Ghana. The fact that you expected a public authorization from the sponsors of a coup (a top secretive plot) to the executors indicts your intelligence and strips your argument of any credibility |
gidgiddy:Until you explain in clear and direct terms what Ironsi meant in the bolded parts of his broadcast, you will remain dishonest, escapist and revisionist in the eyes of every objective truth seeker about how Nigeria was derailed from the glorious path it set foot on at independence. But why are you finding it difficult to just address this simple question for the past ten years? |
Irony1:So so so was to have happened, this person was to be killed, etc are all conjectures. We are establishing our evidence on what ended up happening and not what was to have happened. Evidences are not built on what could or might have happened but what actually happened. So save these stories for your gullible readers. |
Irony1:You are simply dumb. So you expected a people planning a coup, which is naturally a very secretive plot, to have publicly issued an authorization to those billed to execute it? When I say you attended a bush school I know what I am saying. Colonel Unegbe was not in the hit list prepared by the coupists so his killing or otherwise does not amount to anything in meaning. There was a hit list composed of Igbos, Yorubas, Hausas and some Niger Deltan. Unegbe's name was not among. In the execution, all the Igbos in the hit list were spared but their counterparts from other tribes were killed. There were also individuals from other tribes who were not in the hit list but killed accidentally like with Unegbe so bringing in Unegbe is meaningless. Focus on the hit list and tell us how come no Igbo in the hit list received a bullet. |
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