₦airaland Forum

Jman06:
Remove rigging from the equation, PDP will win Edo state any time any day!

It'll be in his best interest if Obaseki defects to PDP now

Why couldn't you establish that "rigging" in court?
PDP is the known rigger party in Edo State as proven through the Oshiomhole vs Osunbor verdict at the Appeal Court and the tribunal where the forensic analysis exposed it all.

Jman06:
PDP should woo this Obaseki into their fold!

Obaseki himself should consider defecting to PDP! I'm very sure he will win Edo state fair and square under PDP than APC.


Edo state is still PDP!!!


Those who know go know

Obaseki is not like PDP's candidate Ize-Iyamu who jumped from PDP to AC and back to PDP all in a desperate bid to govern Edo State.
I understand that Edo State is still PDP even with a house of assembly now 100% APC for the first time in history. Sometimes alternate reality is very pleasurable. Sex is just overrated compared with it.

Born2Breed:
Thank you for educating that nitwit.

Abeg manage this cooler of Rice and support am with these protein.

Nor vex say no water.

Thanks. You dey mind those brainwashed indomie generation Ipobians who don't know that their beloved PDP was a metamorphosis of the Katsina Mafia owned PDM which itself was an offshoot of the NPN which was the ressurrected remnant of the Sokoto Caliphate owned NPC. Lazy SE youths!

Dshocker:
Edo is a confused state that doesn't know where they stand geo-politically

I think it is you that is confused about Edo State's geopolitical location because in your stereotyped perception, all SS states should be pro-PDP even at the detriment of good governance.
Edo started as a PDP state but was forced to dump the "SS is PDP and PDP is SS" assumption due to the unprecedented, unparralled and historic misgovernance it suffered under the Lucky Igbinedion locust regime controlled by a gang of rapacious and inhuman godfathers like Tony Anenih, Gabriel Igbinedion, etc whom they never wanted to have any say in their government directly or indirectly again.
Edo people are after good governance regardless of the party that could give it to them. They have outgrown the primitive and savage assumption that certain parties are for certain regions....an unfortunate and retrogressive delusion still prevalent and virulent in most SS and SE states.
If your state in the SE had fallen victim of the kind of gang that plundered and milked Edo State dry non-stop for eight excruciating years, you would have understood that a state's choice of party doesn't not definite it's geopolitical identity. And who told you that the SS will be ruled by PDP forever?
Weren't certain American states initially traditionally Democrats state but now traditionally Republican, and vice versa?
Please stop looking at geopolitical identity through partisan lenses because parties come and go but the people remain.
Northern states were nearly all PDP states but now mostly APC states. Can we therefore follow your logic to conclude that your SE states were Northern States back then, or that Imo State didn't know where they stood geopolitically for being in APC under Rochas Okorocha amidst the other four? Please cut this childish Ipobian crap. It is too low a level to descend to.

PrecisionFx:
Ironsi never cancelled resource control in Nigeria.

We still had 4 regions till he died.

If Ironsi never cancelled resource control and the four regions he met, then could you kindly explain what exactly he meant with the bolded lines of his May 24 1966 national broadcast as follows:

Fellow Nigerians:
During the past two weeks I presided over meetings of the Supreme
Military council and the Central Executive Council at which many
important state matters were considered. . .
It is now three months since the Government of the Federal Republic
of Nigeria was handed over to the Armed Forces. Now that peace has
been restored in the troubled areas it is time that the Military
Government indicates clearly what it proposes to accomplish before
relinquishing power. The removal of one of the obstacles on the way
is provided for in the Constitution (Suspension and Modification)
Decree (No. 5) 1966 which was promulgated by me today and comes into
effect at once.
The provisions of the Decree are intended to remove the last
vestiges of the intense regionalism of the recent past, and to
produce that cohesion in the governmental structure which is so
necessary in achieving, and maintaining the paramount objective of
the National Military government, and indeed of every true Nigerian,
namely, national unity.
The highlights of this Decree are as follows:
The former regions are abolished, and Nigeria grouped into a number
of territorial areas called provinces. . . .
Nigeria ceases to be what has been described as a federation. It
now becomes simply the Republic of Nigeria..........
The former Federal Military government and the Central Executive
Council become respectively the National Military Government and the
executive Council. All the Military Governors are members of the
Executive Council.
A Military Governor is assigned to a group of provinces over which
and subject to the direction and control of the Head of the National
Military Government, he shall exercise executive power. In order to
avoid any major dislocation of the present administrative machinery,
the grouping of the provinces has been made to coincide with the
former regional boundaries. This is entirely a transitional measure
and must be understood as such. The present grouping of the
provinces is without prejudice to the Constitutional and
Administrative arrangements to be embodied in the New Constitution in
accordance with the wishes of the people of Nigeria.
The National Military Government assumes the exercise of all
legislative powers throughout the Republic subject to such
delegations to Military Governors as are considered necessary for
purposes of efficient administration.
The public services of the former federation and regions become
unified into one national public service under a National Public
Service Commission. There is a provincial Service Commission for
each group of provinces to which is delegated functions in respect of
public officers below a given rank. This rather drastic change will
probably involve a reconstitution of the existing commissions, and
the National Military Government reserves the right to do so in the
manner stipulated in the Decree. Until this is done, the present
Commissioners continue to act in their posts. Every civil servant is
now called upon to see his function in any part of Nigeria in which
he is serving in the context of the whole country. The orientation
should now be towards national unity and progress. I expect all
civil servants to co-operate and to consult at all levels, vertically
and horizontally, between groups of Provinces and between Provinces
and the Centre.
Read more at:

https://www.dawodu.com/irons2.htm

PrecisionFx:
Explain how the IGBO tribe killed a system that naturally gives rise to competition.

By centralizing the Public Service. I hope you are aware that the Public Service is the lawful Institution through which a government generates revenue from resources found within her territory and applies those revenues for projects, salary payments and all other activities which amount to resource control.
So by centralizing the Public Service, Ironsi destroyed resource control and federalism which breeds competition.

Karatum:
Thieves. It shall never be well with Lugard!

So what should happen to Azikiwe who sabotaged every effort later made to reverse Lord Luggard's 1914 amalgamation?

Hotfreeze:
Lagos had an airport before Nigeria discovered oil. Lagos was developed before Nigeria had oil money and that's why Azikiwe the thief wanted to kill himself over Lagos.

Remember the Lagos FCT was limited to Bar beach area to Ajegunle down to ilupeju, every other place was Western Region. Ikeja wasn't part of it. Today Ikeja has more facilities than the entire SE combined and it wasn't part of the Federal capital.

As at when Awolowo flew by helicopter to the SS, the schoolkids he went to their school weren't wearing clothes to school.

Obafemi Awolowo University built with cocoa money had traffic lights installed before the entire SE states combined could get a single one.

Ikeja alone has Adeniyi Jones, Oba Akran, Ogba, Oregun, and many more industrial estates. These were not created with oil money but foresight of Yoruba leaders.

Lagos built the Lekki bridge in 11 months. Not up to a year.
Multiply 11 years by the number of alphabets in Igbo, you have 11x 4 =44.

The bridge built by Yorubas in Lagos within 11 months, the 5 states of your backwards muddy region couldn't do it in 44 years.

Deep down in your innermost mind, I'm sure you're already cursing your mother for not allowing a Yoruba man father you.

Hmmmm. Igbos were intimidated by all these achievements resulting from the healthy competition environment among the three regions created by the federal constiution so they found a way to brush aside the federal constitution and replaced it with a unitary one under the subterfuge of seeking one-Nigeria and National unity. That is why when Igbos of this generation claim they love competition, I get amused. How could a competition loving tribe have killed a system which naturally gives rise to competition and then replace it with one which encourages laziness, corruption, entitlement mentality, rent seeking, going cap in hand to the center for handouts, kills innovation, encourages mediocrity, etc?

Hotfreeze:
Carry your lamentations and go meet the greedy Azikiwe who opposed insertion of the secession clause in the constitution.

Thereafter, carry your bag of misery and go visit John Thomas Aguiyi-Ironsi who foolishly cancelled our Unitary Constitution.

Igbos are suffering the repercussions of the foolishness of Igbo leaders. If they weren't greedy, Igbos won't be confused and directionless today.

If Igbos want Biafra, all Igbos should leave all parts of Nigeria and relocate back to the SE.

You can't be supporting Biafra but still crying that Rita Orji lost in Lagos. That is inbred retardation.

He actually cancelled our federal constiution and imposed this unitary one on us.

Unseen:
Killed by Ghosts..... ? Hypocrisy at high heavens.

Would he have been killed at all by whoever it was had Ojukwu and Ironsi just allowed him have his NDR? Why not answer this simple question? Your avoidance of this question like a plague is the real hypocrisy at high heavens.
Here was a man (Boro) who saw Nigeria for the death trap and killing field it really was.....going by the massacres of thousands of Southerners up North, and the economic strangulation and oppression of his own people by the Igbos; hence he decided to escape the carnage by exiting the blood shedding union, but was held back by Ojukwu and Ironsi only to actually fall victim of the very killing and daily bloodshed he tried to avoid. Then who killed him other than those who held him back?
You place on Awolowo the blame for the death of over 3 million Igbos not because he literally took a gun and fired at them, but because he contributed to holding them back in the killing field called Nigeria. Why can't you see that the same logic is at play concerning the death of Boro? You want us to be selective in applying your anti-Awolowo logic, right?

[quote author=Unseen post=77915991
Ironsi did this, Ojukwu did that, Gowon was Benevolent and lastly Boro was LIKELY by Biafran soldiers and Ironsi frustration of Resource control killed Ken Saro Wiwa.[/quote]I said Ken Saro Wiwa died fighting to correct a havoc deliberately wrecked on his people by Ironsi and Ojukwu. If Ironsi and Ojukwu had not introduced military rule thus had not altered any part of the independence constiution, would Ken Saro Wiwa have later fought the fight for which he was killed?

[quote author=Unseen post=77915991
God. Who did this to Africans.... Because of Hatred, a full grown adult is avoiding the truth and trying to absorb their Slave masters of crimes.[/quote]Please be informed that you Igbos it was who put us all Southerners into Northern slavery by rejecting the proposed all-South alliance for the master slave NPC-NCNC coalition by which you accepted to be perpetual slaves despite your party NCNC won the popular vote, and that the South won more parliamentary seats hence was rationally supposed to produce the Prime Minister and subdue the very slave masters you cry about today.

[quote author=Unseen post=77915991
How can someone use, killed and dumped me, and I will still open my mouth and start blaming my neighbors.[/quote]Wrong! I tried to avoid having anything to do with the use and dump enemy, but my neighbor frustrated all my efforts towards that in pursuit of his own selfish interest which later boomeranged badly on his own face.

[quote author=Unseen post=77915991
This is exactly why I am not happy that Niger Delta is still included in the Biafra IPOB is agitating for.[/quote]The actual reason why you are not happy is that the Nigeri Delta has been able to confront you with how you too crushed their own quest for freedom in pursuit of your selfish interest.

Unseen:
You forgot to answer the part of my questions that asked about the struggle and Ken Saro Wiwa

The struggle was frustrated by Igbos.

Unseen:
May we know how he died, what happened to the struggle afterwards and what happened to Ken Saro Wiwa. Since Nigerian government is benevolent to him while Ojukwu was vindictive

How Isaac Boro died remains a subject of controversy hence no one can authoritatively claim to know how he died.
But what remains undeniable is that Gowon's government didn't at any time sentence him to death like the Ojukwu-Ironsi Government did! Any how you choose to look at it, Ojukwu and Ironsi were guilty of the deaths of Boro and Saro Wiwa because had they allowed them to simply have their Niger Delta Republic when they declared it, they would have been living in peace in their own country while Nigeria vs Biafra war raged, hence wouldn't have been involved in it at all let alone being killed by either side to warrant the question of how they later died.
Above all, Boro was more likely to have been killed by the Biafran side whom he fought against. Ken Saro Wiwa was killed for trying to fight for the restoration of resource control and true federalism which Ironsi and Ojukwu destroyed with their Unification Decree on May 24 1966.

Unseen:
As at that time, Adaka Boro was the military head of Niger Delta Republic abi? So he's now taking orders from Gowon and also fighting for the freedom of his people. Wonderful.

Anyway, let me remind you that Nnamdi Kanu was imprisoned and released with orders too, just like Boro.

You all know the rest.

All of you should argue till next year, hate Igbos, suppress Biafra agitation, use Asari against IPOB, twist history with media and spew rubbish online. At the end, Biafra will come and I pray Niger Delta will be excluded.

Hadn't Ojukwu already crushed the Niger Delta Republic as at when Biafra War was on and Isaac Boro involved on the federal side? How could Boro have resumed the fight for Niger Delta Republic when the very areas of that Republic were already stolen and forcefully annexed to Biafra by Ojukwu?
Wasn't Boro supposed to first seek help from a superior military power (i.e Gowon's side) to extricate his territory from Ojukwu's strangehold before re-declaring the republic again?
Moreover, recall that it was Gowon who set Isaac Boro free and quashed the death sentence slammed on him by Ojukwu and Ironsi. So how could Boro have joined the very Biafrans who wanted to kill him, to fight against the Gowon who delivered him from their hands? Would that have made sense on Boro's part? Can you yourself do such a wicked and ungrateful act? Please put yourself in Boro's shoes and see if you would have acted differently under the same circumstance.
You can't compare Nnamdi Kanu's case with Boro's. While Nnamdi Kanu was released on bail by the same Government that put him in detention, Isaac Boro was released by a benevolent Gowon government totally different from the wicked and vindictive Ironsi-Ojukwu Government which sentenced him to death and put him in detention against the date fixed for the execution of that death sentence.
Unfortunately, what you fail to understand is that no other Nigerian tribe is against Biafra secession unlike how Biafra was against them when they wanted secession. The point they are making is simply that since Biafrans frustrated their various secession bids right from the pre-independence parliament and even went as far as Promulgating the Anti-secession Decree which made it very difficult or even impossible to dissolve Nigeria today; then as a punishment for that Biafrans alone should shoulder the responsibility and sacrifices needed to be made to split Nigeria in every one else's interest.

Unseen:
After reading the bold line. I realized you're not worthy of my response.

The bold line is similar to your own argument that Isaac Boro should have disobeyed Gowon's orders to fight against Ojukwu. So you are confused and hypocritic smelling of double standards hence not worthy of anyone's response.

Unseen:
Ironsi gave Ojukwu order as the Head of Eastern region which Boro came from and automatically, Ojukwu thwarted Boro Niger Delta Republic.
So Ojukwu was supposed to disobey? And because he carried out a military order, it now means that Ojukwu thwarted Boro Niger Delta Republic. ...... Funny

If Boro was true to his cause, why did he fought for one Nigeria after he came out of prison. Why didn't he resume fight for Niger Delta Republic?

IPOB nor Nnamdi Kanu never denied being pro one Nigeria. But today we're anti one Nigeria.
And that's our stand

Isn't it hypocritic that you feel that Ojukwu shouldn't have disobeyed Ironsi the supreme commander of the Army under whom he was, but you feel that Isaac Boro should have disobeyed Gowon the head and supreme commander of the same army under whom he was by fighting on the side of Biafra or Niger Delta Republic?
How could Isaac Boro have continued fighting directly for his Niger Delta Republic when Ojukwu had included his Niger Delta territories in his newly drawn Biafra
map? Why didn't Ojukwu leave the area out of Biafra map so Isaac Boro could fight for it in demonstration of being true to his cause? Don't you think Boro's joining of forces with Gowon was calculated towards first removing his NDR lands from Ojukwu's map before he could fight for its actualization proper?

As per the bolded: But in your earlier response you already claimed that Nnamdi Kanu never fought for one-Nigeria and that you won't be surprised if Nigerians begin to falsely accuse him of defending one-Nigeria in 20 years from now.
With this self contradictions, isn't it obvious that you are confused?

Unseen:
Blame yourself for not understanding English not Obj. Ironsi and Ojukwu thwarted Boro Niger Delta Republic, as in Ojukwu is the second in command to Ironsi? Who are you feeding this media lies?

According to you, an Igbo man signed anti secession law, now that the same Igbos are trying to secede since 1967, who has been foiling that plan?

The very cowards that are fighting against Igbos from seceding are also blaming an Igbo man for signing anti secession law. Isn't that hypocrisy?

I don't even know what you're arguing. Listen. Even if the whole Igbo race co-signed the so called anti secession bill, we will eventually have our Biafra and my personal prayer is that Niger Delta will be excluded.

Why do you so much love to deceive yourself? Wasn't Ojukwu really the one who, as Eastern Region Governor, attacked Isaac Boro with the federal might of one-Nigeria Army and within 12 fighting days, killed 150 of his soldiers, got him arrested, stripped him naked, tied his hands behind and sent him like that to Lagos to Ironsi who within two months got him convicted and sentenced to death by hanging for attempting to seceed from Nigeria? If Ojukwu was at that point convinced that secession was within everyone's right, why didn't he decline Ironsi's order and resign from the Army in protest?
The very corwards (Igbos) who promulgated the Anti-secession Decree are now asking for secession..... talk of a people now complaining against the very system they imposed on us and told us was the best for us all despite us preferring the very system they presently want.

Yyeske:
I really don't blame you though for your lack of understanding of Nigerian history but blame OBJ who abolished the teaching of history when he was a military head of state.
FYI, before independence leaders from other ethnic groups wanted a de-amalgamation especially the north but Azikiwe refused.
Awolowo and Enahoro suggested for a referendum and secession clause in the constitution, Zik refused.
Ironsi and Ojukwu thwarted Isaac Boro from forming his Niger delta republic, Ironsi went further by signing the anti secession decree into law and mere mentioning secession is treasonable.
These are Igbos, don't hide from your history because your parents didn't tell you about it and the Nigerian government isn't helping matters as well

They are pure hypocrites. Obasanjo's removal of history from our educational system is the reason why the average Igbo man's always habours a residual love for him no matter how much he insults and denigrates the Igbo race.

Unseen:
Honestly, I didn't read all jargon up there, however, I saw the last part were you claimed Ojukwu thwarted Nigeria breakup.... At this point I know you obviously don't know what you're saying.

If you people can come out and claim Ojukwu thwarted Nigeria breakup that means in next 20 years you will teach your children that Nnamdi Kanu fought for One Nigeria.

Chukwu Okike, look at the people that are my country men. biko pick Biafra call.... Biko

Exactly the kind of response I was expecting as I knew that I had mentioned as issue about which you, as a typical IPOBian, would have no factual rebuttal to.
If not Ojukwu, who did Ironsi order to fight Isaac Boro and crush his Niger Delta Republic Declaration which would have set the ball of Nigeria's disintegration rolling?
Are you saying you are not aware that Nnamdi Kanu was initially pro-One Nigeria as evidenced by an online video which he himself has never denied?
Honestly, you IPOBians' revisionist tendency is legendary.

rebekah2011:
http://www.nse.com.ng/Financial_NewsDocs/25927_FBN_HOLDINGS_PLC_FINANCIAL_STATEMENTS_APRIL_2019.pdf
This is totally unacceptable from this bank.

Whether you like it or not, that is it.

Unseen:
You should first ask yourself between Igbos and other tribe who honour Nnamdi Azikiwe the most.

You stated above that one Nigeria philosophy is fraudulent, how come it's only Igbos that is standing against it today?

Even if one Igbo man made the mistake, we have fought against that mistake and still fighting against that mistake, why then are other tribes standing against us especially the ultimate WE SOUTH SOUTH people that are suffering the most from the mistake.

I blame IPOB that's still lumping so called SS traitors in the Biafra agitation. If and only if the Biafra agitation will be only about Igbos.

It wasn't a mistake on his part. Rather, it was a deliberate and calculated attempt to pull the wool over other tribes' faces so that his own kinsmen could Lord it over them perpetually, and while he was doing so, no single Igbo man publicly took a stand against him. He preached a fraudulent one-Nigeria not by or for himself but in a representative capacity on behalf of the Igbos who elected him to lead them. If not why couldn't Igbos recall him from the parliament when recall was even easier under colonial rule? That explains why other tribes are against Igbos now, and not necessarily because they love one Nigeria.
Another reason why it wasn't a mistake on his part was that he read Anthropology from a prestigious University in Pennsylvania USA. It is a basic principle in Anthropology that a country made up of diverse cultural groups must not be unified by force but that each tribe must be allowed to be in charge of her own affairs until such a time when national integration must have taken place at a very slow natural pace after a long time. But Azikiwe returned to Nigeria as an anthropologist to start preaching unitary system disguised as a call for one Nigeria despite he saw it in his course content that such will never work... meaning he was advocating for what his profession clearly told him was wrong. The America where he schooled was as well very diverse like Nigeria. Did he ever hear anyone preach one-America throughout the five years he spent there as a student of Anthropology? Yet you claim he made a mistake? The only reason why a person can go against the principles of his academic specialty in practical life is to promote a selfish and sectional interest.
If it had worked out as he calculated and Igbos had become the lords of Nigeria today, would they have been asking for Biafra today?
When Ijaws declared Niger Delta Republic at a time the North was calling for Araba with Yorubas set to declare Oduduwa Republic, and every other tribe ready to go her way; wasn't it Igbos (Ironsi and Ojukwu) that thwarted it all? Why were only Igbos against separation initially?

PFRB:
This has been my point .

You are wrong. They were only avenging the fact that earlier in 1966 the Igbos allowed themselves to be used against them by the same North.

Unseen:
Nigeria does not worth its existence. It should die. Weaken Nigeria is an understatement. We want it dead.

Sometimes I wonder why Igbos are the only people in Nigeria that reject this slavery called One Nigeria. Una Blind?

Are you for real? Where did you hide all these your awareness when your father Nnamdi Azikiwe invented the fraudulent one-Nigeria philosophy in stark contrast to the agitation for de-amalgamation by every other tribe?

Watch the video here and mention Igbos who took a stand against him at the time he started what he confessed to here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YwA9iFW0Es

Also kindly tell us why you Igbos applauded Aguiyi Ironsi for promulgating the Anti-secession Decree which made it impossible for any part to pull out of the slavery you call it.
You revisionist!

schoolboij:
So fighting for their own country is a northern agenda and weakening the Eastern region to you? What if I told you that biafra is also a selfish agenda to weaken Nigeria?

Don't mind him. We can as well follow his logic to accuse Igbos of trying to weaken the South by inventing and propagating the fraudulent one-Nigeria philosophy which was clearly to the benefit of the North.
In fact Igbos actually weakened the South by rejecting the proposed all-South alliance in preference for the East-North NPC-NCNC coalition through which they willingly accepted to be permanent slaves to Hausafulanis.

OBAGADAFFI:
I still dey inside from 0.20k

We only stopped briefly yesterday to drink water and refuel.

OBAGADAFFI:
My Oga the markets is confusing FA followers.

When DF started moving, around January, we were confused because there was no FA behind the movement, not knowing Dangote is busy negotiating DF sale off.

Same pattern with Diamonds.

We don't know what is cooking in CHAMS.

This is the strength of TA over FA.

Hope you have not jumped ship yet?
I am beginning to share the sentiment that it could touch N1.00 eventually.

DaV8King:
Transcorpse is like Amaka #disappointment

Very unpredictable company.

Yayira:
My brother na my dream I dey wait for.. to tell me which stock go do 200%

Dream Analysis (DA).

yom2:
i believe there time will come sha. especially that one that seems to be about to double its earnings this year.those air people

You mean CAVERTON? I believe so too. But I think it will do so after the release of Q1 report.

stcool:
My brother forget this analysis for now... If you see DF buy... Shekena
All this calculation Aliko Don do am, they are going to pay N26.

How far with all our Diamond bank analysis

PETERiCHY:
It's such ANALYSES that's leads to PARALYSES .
If have DANGOTE FLOUR close hold tight till it gets to N26 .BARGAIN HUNTERS TAKE NOTE.

Meanwhile CP rightnow after missing out the jolly rides on Cileasing , Diamondbk. Chams and now DangFlour

Per the bolded; very correct. Sometimes being simple minded is more rewarding than being complex in thought.

Yayira:
Abeg who go buy transcorp oo e don too range

TRANSCORP is too slippery and unpredictable for my attention let alone a buy.