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Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 6:04pm On Apr 23, 2019
lancee:
Have that thot as well
So we even plenty like this?
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 6:03pm On Apr 23, 2019
rebekah2011:
It is temporary my brother. I hope they will understand when to bail out.
That is the real issue. Knowing the time to bail out is the main determinant of profit. Bail out analysis (BA)
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 5:52pm On Apr 23, 2019
Yayira:
Lolz.. irony!
Since bubu (bull) don’t want to come and make people smile, let mergers and acquisitions be putting smiles on our face grin
For me; I don't like that general bull. Let them come one after the other on individual stocks as they are doing now. If you can be identifying them as they come, with only three or four of such bulls in a sequence you will make a mountainous kill this year. Imagine a person who rode Diamond, took the loot into CHAMS and now into DF. You can catch three rats if they come in turns, but you can't catch more than one if they all come simultaneously.
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 5:38pm On Apr 23, 2019
kolaish:
I have been looking for the next sick company to buy, if you see one before me please let me know grin. My mind is telling me that FO will still do a little trick in a short while, but the time to jump inside the bus is when I cannot say for now.
It seems our minds are connected. Just this morning at about 4:30, I was studying the daily volume of FO for the past 14 trading days to see if it is showing signs of a miracle on the way. There is a cummulative percentage of drop it would record after some few consecutive days and then it would be time for one to take a dive. Though I pray it happens after I will have carried my loot out of CHAMS so that I can use it for the FO diving.
NSE has become like a school in which students don't read for exams but wait for expos and miracles to pass.
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 3:47pm On Apr 23, 2019
Yayira:
So na companies wey no dey perform well dey make people rich now ? grin grin
Happy for everyone in this bus.. make una too chop una 100%
Na so oooo! Sick companies are changing people's fortunes while fundamentally sound ones are causing frustration here and there. gringrin
What an interesting irony!
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 2:17pm On Apr 23, 2019
tritritri:
I sold my 3M unit feb or so..i cant think straight now...why me.. embarassed embarassed embarassed ..
No need biting your fingers in regret. The market is full of opportunities. Only the ability to recognize them as they come is what really matters.
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 1:37pm On Apr 23, 2019
kolaish:
Another new lesson on NSE: CHAMS 101. Yours truly ran away after taking profit of 25% grin

I hope this stock will not remind me of FO around 2011/2012 that I bought at N17. It later go down to as low as N9, I was sad but determined that I will not sell at a loss until 2 months after when it speed pass my N17 and got to N57 and I quickly sold thinking I have hit jackpot only to see the stock hit N250 some 2 months after. Kai, it was like: Why am I so impatient grin
I was very tempted to do like you at 33k but I passed the temptation.
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 1:35pm On Apr 23, 2019
Princkez:
I'm finished ooooo, Just sold my 120k units of DF early this month
Chai!
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 12:17pm On Apr 23, 2019
stcool:
That is how they want to push CHAMS to 50k or even N1.00
I pray so. That will make it the JAPAUL of this year. But I doubt strongly its getting to N1.00
Highest, I see it at N0.60+
Politics › Re: Nnamdi Kanu Ordered The Assassination Of Anthony Nwoko - Asari Dokubo by Deadlytruth(m):
goodnessme1:
Another thread for yoruba muslims to masturbate on.


Before the coming of Social
Media, lots of lies have been
upheld by Nigerians as truth.
Ndi Igbo have been
demonized also, using
Yoruba dominated conventional
Media. Right from after the
war, Ndi
Igbo jettisoned Media as to
survive the inhuman
treatment from Nigeria after
their properties and monies
across Nigeria banks were
completely confiscated.
Remember that Nnamdi
Azikiwe was among the first
to establish Media house.
Something he used to fight
against Britain for the
independence of Nigeria.
With the defeat of Biafra by the combination of
HausaFulani, Tiv and Yoruba
people, the Igbos lost hold
of
things in Nigeria. The
Yoruba used their Media to serve the interest of the
North. Concocting lies
against
the Igbo people. Bellow are
some of the lies
held as truth by Nigerians, thanks to Yoruba Media. ~That Yoruba people are the
most educated Nigerians.
This is a lie social Media has
killed permanently and
buried
in an unmarked grave. Not only that Ndi Igbo are the
most educated, they have
also
proven to be the most
intelligent black Africans. ~That Igbo People are
Ritualists Another funny lie
peddled by
Yoruba Media. Yoruba
people
are the highest people that indulge in rituals. If not
Badoo, it will be stealing
female pants. Lots of them
have been caught with
human
parts. Even on social Media, they now commercialize
rituals. Haven't you been
getting harassment on
social
Media by their many
Babalawos asking if you want
to get rich. ~Social Media have also
proven that same Yoruba
people are the main people
dealing on 419 and Yahoo
Yahoo. Even drug peddling,
they are champions. As we are crying about a Yoruba
lady
beheaded in Saudi Arabia
over drug, Another Yoruba
was caught with the same
drug. Even though they try to downplay the news, yet
social Media keep pushing
out the
ugly news. ~Earlier before now, they
have been using their Media to tell
lies that it was Aguyi Ironsi that destroyed Regional government. It is just a lie from the pit of hell.

Unfortunately, some Ndi
Igbo
thought this to be true.
That's the power of the Media.
With
Media, you can bombard the
victim and support the
oppressors. Ask yourselves
this question. Were there still
Regional governors even at
the time Ironsi was
murdered
by the Northern soldiers?
Didn't Ironsi pay a visit to Military Governor of Western
Region. Didn't they kill Ironsi
together with the military
Governor, in the person of
Adekunle Fajuyi?
On what capacity did Odumegwu
Ojukwu refused the
Leadership of Yakubu
Gowon?
Was he not the military
Governor of Eastern Region? How then did Ironsi destroy
regional government, with
regional governors still in
charge even after his death?
The truth is that it was
Yakubu Gowon that destroyed
the regional government
with
the creation of states. Hold
that hypocrite going around
shamelessly praying for a nation he destroyed
responsible. We have to bury
this one too. ~Another lie is that Yoruba
and HausaFulani don't have
lands in South East because
Ndi Igbo don't sell lands to
outsiders. Another lie. Those
that hardly invest in another region will continue to tell
lies. Ndi Igbo don't sell
lands,
yet you don't still have lands
in
Bayelsa, Akwaibom and Calabar. Did they also
refused
to sell lands like their cousin
brother? The truth is that an
HausaFulani can never rent a
house outside his territory, not to talk of building a
house. They live either in
tenths or they stay in their
mosques. Go to the Mosque
in
Onitsha, close to main market
and see for yourself. Also a
Yoruba can rent, but can't
buy
a land outside his territory.
Even they hardly live outside their region. ~The lie called One Nigeria
have also been exposed and
killed. Everybody now knows
that One Nigeria doesn't
exist. We won't stop until
we expose all the lies Yoruba
Media are peddling against
Umu Chineke.
Per the bolded; if you believe that it wasn't Ironsi who destroyed regional government and federalism in Nigeria, then kindly explain what exactly Ironsi meant with the bolded lines of his May 24 1966 national broadcast presented as follows:
Fellow Nigerians:
During the past two weeks I presided over meetings of the Supreme
Military council and the Central Executive Council at which many
important state matters were considered. . .
It is now three months since the Government of the Federal Republic
of Nigeria was handed over to the Armed Forces. Now that peace has
been restored in the troubled areas it is time that the Military
Government indicates clearly what it proposes to accomplish before
relinquishing power. The removal of one of the obstacles on the way
is provided for in the Constitution (Suspension and Modification)
Decree (No. 5) 1966 which was promulgated by me today and comes into
effect at once.
The provisions of the Decree are intended to remove the last
vestiges of the intense regionalism of the recent past
, and to
produce that cohesion in the governmental structure which is so
necessary in achieving, and maintaining the paramount objective of
the National Military government, and indeed of every true Nigerian,
namely, national unity.
The highlights of this Decree are as follows:
The former regions are abolished, and Nigeria grouped into a number
of territorial areas called provinces
. . . .
Nigeria ceases to be what has been described as a federation. It
now becomes simply the Republic of Nigeria
..........
The former Federal Military government and the Central Executive
Council become respectively the National Military Government and the
executive Council
. All the Military Governors are members of the
Executive Council.
A Military Governor is assigned to a group of provinces over which
and subject to the direction and control of the Head of the National
Military Government
, he shall exercise executive power. In order to
avoid any major dislocation of the present administrative machinery,
the grouping of the provinces has been made to coincide with the
former regional boundaries. This is entirely a transitional measure
and must be understood as such. The present grouping of the
provinces is without prejudice to the Constitutional and
Administrative arrangements to be embodied in the New Constitution in
accordance with the wishes of the people of Nigeria.

The National Military Government assumes the exercise of all
legislative powers throughout the Republic subject to such
delegations to Military Governors as are considered necessary for
purposes of efficient administration.
The public services of the former federation and regions become
unified into one national public service under a National Public
Service Commission. There is a provincial Service Commission for
each group of provinces to which is delegated functions in respect of
public officers below a given rank. This rather drastic change will
probably involve a reconstitution of the existing commissions, and
the National Military Government reserves the right to do so in the
manner stipulated in the Decree. Until this is done, the present
Commissioners continue to act in their posts. Every civil servant is
now called upon to see his function in any part of Nigeria in which
he is serving in the context of the whole country. The orientation
should now be towards national unity and progress. I expect all
civil servants to co-operate and to consult at all levels, vertically
and horizontally, between groups of Provinces and between Provinces
and the Centre.
More at

https://www.dawodu.com/irons2.htm

If you don't agree with the link, then kindly furnish us with a source of your contrary text of the broadcast.

Then for your argument that Ironsi visited the Western Region Governor hence an evidence that he didn't kill the Regions; he made himself clear in his national broadcast above that he had broken the regions down to groups of provinces to be headed by military governors. Fajuyi was therefore the governor of the Western groups of provinces which Ironsi visited and not governor of the Western Region which he described as "former" in that broadcast.

Gowon's creation of states did not fundamentally alter anything as did Ironsi's Unification Decree. Before Gowon created the 12 states, the minorities were already asking for their own states/mini regions as a way to shake off the domination shackles of the WAZOBIANS made possible by the existence of just three regions. The creation of the Midwestern Region and the resultant agitations for the creation of the COR and Middle Belt Regions were clear indications that there was just no way the minorities (who actually constitute the majority when combined and compared with Wazobians) would accept to perpetually remain at the mercy of Wazobians in the form of just three regions. Gowon himself was of the minority hence understood their plight and topmost desire as his state creation gave minorities their voices and autonomy which Ironsi denied them by creating very weak provinces which reported to and took orders from him at the center.
Politics › Re: How Igbo Leaders Caused Nigeria's Current National Political Problems by Deadlytruth(m):
superlightning:
chai.... to think that I actually underrated your poor level of acumen.... pls forgive me, I admit, your poor level of acumen is high!

I won't discuss important issues with you any further.
So the simple demand that you provide that your own "authentic" version of Ironsi's broadcast is what has led you into all these conjectures and a final face saving exit from a debate into which you came chestbeating and foaming at the mouth about being ready for me and going to expose my "lies"?
So this is how you ended it abruptly...... by running away just like that? You must have searched and searched through Google for a version of Ironsi's broadcast doctored to suit your preconceived truth but found none hence your decision to run away while saving face with the innuendoes above. Next time get your facts straight before you chestbeat that you will expose someone else's "lies".
Politics › Re: How Igbo Leaders Caused Nigeria's Current National Political Problems by Deadlytruth(m): 12:20pm On Apr 22, 2019
superlightning:
[b]Oga "12 years of military rule" contains the broadcasts of each military ruler[/b]along with local and foreign commentaries on their administrations. You never knew any better did you?
So you mean you who know better can't just copy that book's "authentic" version of Ironsi's broadcast and paste it here for us to compare and contrast? Why refer me to a book to which you alone "have" access? It is like you are before a law court and in response to the presiding judge's demand for you to provide evidence to substantiate your statement of claim, you ask him to go and look for the evidence himself. Then that means you know it deep down in your heart that such evidence doesn't really exist. How can I, your opponent, be the one to help you search for evidence to advance your argument over mine? If there are no online versions of the book, why can't you take snapshots of the relevant page and upload them here?? You think you are talking to a kid? Honestly you are a clown.

superlightning:
and yes, some northerners (not most of them) have been attacking the easterners since the 40s, but then Igbo were still living and working there believing perhaps that these attacks were temporary and that maybe one day those northerners would try to redeem themselves.
At what point did it suddenly become clear to you Igbos that the attacks weren't actually temporary hence your decision to escape from the North and even seceed from Nigeria? Back then and today, most Northerners were advocating Shariah and total islamization of the country anidst their rejection of Western Education and belief that they were born to rule. Now, you mean you Igbos, despite your level of elightenment back then, were expecting such people to within few yeats later discard such deeply ingrained cultural philosophy? It is like US, after experiencing the World Trade Centre attack, continuing to assume that Arabians would with time become more civilized and rational hence avoid talking steps to put anti-terrorism measures in place, and even open the US borders wider to influx of Middle East immigrants. Would that have made sense? Why didn't the other southerners, e.g. Yorubas, Edos, Ijaws, Urhobos, Itsekiris, Efiks, Ibibios, etc share that hope with Igbos?

superlightning:
Leadership newspaper is not an Igbo tabloid outfit, but dawodu.com is unapologetically pro-arewa.
Leadership Newspaper is also owned by an Arewa man hence unapologetically pro Arewa by the same standards you appraise Dawodu.com.

superlightning:
you bore me with tales. when you are ready to show me the provinces and their heads and their place in ironsi's cabinet, I will then take you serious.
You bore me with conjectures. When you are ready to show me a link to your "authentic" version of Ironsi's May 24 1966 broadcast, then I will take you seriously.
Politics › Re: How Igbo Leaders Caused Nigeria's Current National Political Problems by Deadlytruth(m): 3:12am On Apr 22, 2019
superlightning:
I'm quite sure you didn't read the link, so that explains your lame rebuttal. besides if you had read my statement prior to the link properly, you would know that I was COMPARING your dawodu with an authoritative newspaper in order for the casual reader to get the right articulation and interpretation of ironsi's statements.
the 4 REGIONAL governors were to oversee the provinces in their regions, nothing more, nothing less


secondly, if you were old enough to have had the book '12 years of military rule" published by the daily times, you won't embarrass yourself here. an informed reader would laugh over the gross misinterpretation and dubious narratives you were projecting with your dawodu.com

you keep revising and regurgitating what you have stated earlier. no facts, just dawodu.com You still haven't disproved why other leaders didn't return to parliamentarianism but rather, did worse than ironsi.

I'm sure you intentionally skipped where "provinces/divisions" were typed in my post. I meant to state that these two terms connoted each other. so quit trying to be smart by half.

you said our refusal to allow herdsmen settle in the east is a testimony to your point that we weren't ripe for aguiyi's approach. We don't accommodate or acculturate criminals, it doesn't mean we cant acculturate honorable northerners, after all the former mayor of Enugu (capital of the eastern region) was a Fulani man.

by the way, having a lengthy post does not not on any imply brilliance or facts. you keep releasing garbage before and now. thank God public perception about ironsi is changing for the better. the lies against have be condoned for too long.
Your response above is a washout. I have told you that the contents of your Leadership Newspaper link is not Ironsi's national broadcast which is what we need to know whether he destroyed the regions and federal structure or not. How can you substitute an individual's personal opinion on Ironsi's person for Ironsi's verbatim national broadcast? Does that make sense at all?
You are the one embarrassing yourself by jumping from pillar to post rather than just providing us with a link to your own "authentic" version of Ironsi's May 24 1966 broadcast. What's my business with your"12 days of military rule" if it doesn't contain the broadcast in question?

You still haven't explained why Ironsi, Ojukwu and Nwabueze first ever tampered with our parliamentary system, so why do you think I should explain to you why Ironsi's successors did worse by your own personal perception?

The case of Enugu Mayor was a very rare occurrence as an overwhelming majority of Northerners were even back then irresponsible and blood thirsty hence were
already killing Igbos living with them in the North in large numbers....The 1945 and 1953 massacres of Igbos in Jos and Kano respectively were testimonials. Even the 1966 pogroms of Igbos right under Ironsi's nose as HoS should have been enough evidence for him that Nigeria wast ripe for his idea of national unity.

You still haven't answered me as per which part of the independence constitution Ironsi relied on to take power for himself and appoint military governors for the region hence the beginning of the whole trouble.

Exactly how and where do you put the dividing line between lengthiness and briefness of a post? You think your own post above is a brief one?
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 3:55pm On Apr 21, 2019
phemmie06:
You see now na only oga at the top can have this
Ogas at the top like you.
Politics › Re: How Igbo Leaders Caused Nigeria's Current National Political Problems by Deadlytruth(m):
superlightning:
dawodu.com? dawodu.com?! just as I suspected.

Mr dawodu.com, follow this authoritative link (NOT SOME AREWA WEBSITE) and stop disgracing yourself.

https://leadership.ng/2018/07/27/remembering-aguiyi-ironsi-a-patriot-for-all-times/amp/
I thought I was going to see the "authentic" version of Ironsi's May 24 1966 national broadcast on the link you provided, but I opened it only to see the personal view of a person about Ironsi. Are you sure you know what it means to debate with facts and records? And who told you the Leadership Newspaper from which your link above comes is not owned by a Northerner hence equally an Arewa platform?

superlightning:
o summarize it in comparison to your malicious dawodu.com half-truths:

1. The provinces were to be under the regional governors.
And the regional governors were to report to Ironsi at the center. Why did Ironsi appoint regional governors rather than just replace the slain premiers with their deputies, swear in Dipcharima as Balewa's replacement and then go back to the barracks as a professional career military man? Which part of the independence constiution he swore to protect and defend at all times and in all circumstances recommended the appointment of military governors for the regions?

superlightning:
. in his effort to curb tribalism, he wanted a unitary system in which with time, people will acknowledge provinces more above regions, that said, there were NO provincial governors in HIS CABINET so stop twisting the facts.
And by how much has that unitary system been able to curb tribalism till today? What your likes don't understand is that federalism by its intrinsic nature has some integral trappings of tribalism since it is a system which, in principle, seeks to constiutionally endow each tribe (nation within a country) with the power to assert herself and decide her destiny and future within the larger nation. Only fools like Ironsi and Azikiwe believed that tribalism could be divorced from federalism.

superlightning:
. if the provinces were actually in place as you falsely projected it, ojukwu wouldn't have had the balls to break the east away from Nigeria.
As at when Ojukwu decided to break off from Nigeria, Gowon had already, with his Decree 56, repealed Ironsi's Unification Decree and pronounced Ironsi's provinces dead hence Ojukwu had the entire Eastern Region fully back to status quo ante thereby emboldened to declare Biafra.

superlightning:
. if the succeeding heads of state were sincere, why didn't they restore Nigeria back to parliamentarianism? Why did they do worse?
If you want to know why the succeeding heads did not restore Nigeria to paliarmentary system, you should first tell us why Ironsi and his Igbo kinsmen first derailed us from it in the first instance. Ironsi paved the way for all his successors who, according to you, did worse. Why did Ironsi pave the way for them by setting the wrong example as their overall and supreme commander of the army? If a father smokes cocaine, and his son copies him to such an extent that he becomes worse than his father, is it him or his father that should be blamed for his bad upbringing?
superlightning:
. Ironsi wanted a Nigeria where its not your ancestral origin that matters, but your place of birth. for example, Mohammed can say he comes from port Harcourt, wale can say he is from Enugu, chinedu can say he is from markurdi. This is how is it done in developed countries. IRONSI WAS DETRIBALIZED.
Was Nigeria ripe for such? Did the developed countries attain that level overnight? Are the Mohammeds and Abdulahis not leaving their ancestral homes and coming down south as Fulani Herdsmen to freely be from Rivers, Delta, Edo, Bayelsa, Anambra, Enugu, etc and living in them now to terrorize people and shed blood daily? So why do you now complain against Fulani Herdsmen invasion of the South and Middle Belt when such harmonizes perfectly with Ironsi's idea of a united Nigeria? After all it is a fulfilment of Ironsi's vision to see that anyone could freely move away from his state of origin and live elsewhere without any hindrance.
Why are you against Cattle Colony policy despite it is the fastest means for Fulanis to become natives of Southern states as you claim Ironsi wanted hence his Unification Decree? Why do you feel threatened and shout Jihad each time Fulanis claim they have lived long enough in some Southern states to qualify as natives? Isn't that very compatible with the vision you have just credited Ironsi with?
Any attempt to use force or other artificial means in bringing about national integration normally ends up causing more national disunity. Ironsi's artificial methods at that landed us in this mess we've been in for decades.
Even in developed countries, national integration takes a long time.
Wasn't it clearly stated in the American Independence Declaration that all men are created equal before God, yet it took another 100 years for slaves to be set free so they could really become equal to everyone else? Was Ironsi ignorant of this historical fact? Wasn't interracial marriage once forbidden by the Supreme Court in the US until much later on when the sense of nationalism had slowly developed and interracial barriers broken at a slow natural
pace? Why was Ironsi trying to be faster than the course of nature? Weren't the university graduates and professionals who drafted our independence constiution in London aware that national integration happens slowly over many years hence decided on a decentralized system by which every tribe would retain her identity and control her affairs first until such a time when national integration would subdue all that at the right time to be determined by natural cultural evolution process? Was Ironsi more educated, enlightened and knowledgeable than these people on matters of nation building and national integration?
Has the NYSC (a coercive national integration policy similar to Ironsi's attempts) really successfully engendered national unity rather more killings and inter-tribal hatred and resentments?
Ironsi was NOT detribalised. The biggest fraud in political narratives is to credit anyone with detribalization. The same Ironsi whose advisory committee on constiution ammendment was nearly 100% Igbo in composition? What was and still is obvious is that Ironsi, being an Igbo man, destroyed our strictly federal structure because such a structure was not favorable to Igbos who were already dispersed in other regions hence would not enjoy certain privileges given to only the natives of federating regions by their governments as obtains in a strictly federal system.

superlightning:
dawodu.com my foot. Stop following sites that are good in twisting facts. who in his right frame of mind authoritatively quotes dawodu.com
When people disagree with an evidence provided by their opponents, they bring forth their own supposedly superior evidence to substantiate their position. Unfortunately you have not been able to do that here. The contents in dowodu.com are exactly as contained in the national archives.

superlightning:
ttacking a man who is not around to clarify himself is sacrilegious. however the momentum and structure of his administration should have told you that there were 4 regions supervising provinces, MIND YOU, the balewa regime also had provinces/divisions.
And I guess the Enahoro, Awolowo, Balewa, Ahmadu Bello, etc whom you and your fellow Igbos attack daily on this site are around to defend themselves, hence you are not equally guilty of sacrilege? See commedian! The Balewa Government had divisions and not provinces. Each division had duly elected persons overseeing them unlike Ironsi's.
superlightning:
am ready to expose your half-truths any day anytime.
Deadlytruth I am waiting for you and your likes.
Like I have demanded, please first explain what Ironsi meant with the bolded lines in his national broadcast or provide the"authentic" speech let's see.
Politics › Re: How Igbo Leaders Caused Nigeria's Current National Political Problems by Deadlytruth(m): 9:39am On Apr 21, 2019
gidgiddy:
You said Ironsi broke up the 4 Regions into 35 provinces, I said mention one of these 35 provinces that Ironsi created. You cannot mention any because it never happend. You are the only person who does not know that it was Gowon who dissolved the 4 Regions in May 1967 and created 12 states.

I then told you that resouce control is when an area gets the larger share of the proceeds of their land. Ironsi maintained the 50% going to the Regions, intact, this was reinforced in Ironsi's only budget where government revenue was based on the 25% and 25% general purse, which left the regions their 50%

You said Ironsi introduced military rule, it may interest you to know that Nigeria was already under military rule before Ironsi became president. For about 2 days, Nzeogwu was the virtual master of Nigeria from Kaduna as Ironsi battled to crush the coup in Southern Nigeria. It was only after Ironsi prevailed in Lagos did Nzeogwu give up and hand himself over to Ironsi. One could say that Ironsi used the opportunity of Nzeogwus coup to take power but it is a bare faced lie to say that Ironsi introduced military rule when Northern Nigeria was already under the Military rule of Nzeogwu before Ironsi came to power.

You even stooped low to defend Buhari of kicking out the democratically elected government of Shagari

The reason Ironsi is the best Military ruler is that all those who came after him did far worse than he did. They abolished the 4 Regions and created multiple states, they took away resource control and they reduced autonomy far more than Ironsi ever did.

What some people who criticise Ironsi don't realise is that had those who came after Ironsi followed in his footsteps and kept the 4 Regions, Nigeria would have gone back to operating its independence constitution whenever civilian rule returned. But by creating states, there was nothing to go back to when civilian rule returned because the 4 Regions were gone and we had 19 states

The large block of 4 Regions was what made the centre weak, but the creation of 36 states, most of them unviable, was what made the Federal government incredibly strong, and the states weak.

The people destroyed Nigeria were those who sub-divided the 4 Regional structure Ironsi kept
You mean you can't tell me exactly what Ironsi meant by the bolded lines in his national broadcast speech as I demanded of you above but chose to go into this conjectural merry-go-round?
Politics › Re: How Igbo Leaders Caused Nigeria's Current National Political Problems by Deadlytruth(m): 9:33am On Apr 21, 2019
superlightning:
we keep debunking your half truths, thank God for the internet.
I thought you were going to explain to me what Ironsi meant with the bolded lines of his national broadcast speech as I demanded above?
Politics › Re: How Igbo Leaders Caused Nigeria's Current National Political Problems by Deadlytruth(m): 12:38pm On Apr 20, 2019
gidgiddy:
Are you talking for the sake of talking? What do you think resource control is? It is when you control the larger share of the proceeds of wealth coming out of your area. So what has civil servants got to do with resource control? It is the private sector that generates wealth, not the public sector. So whether Ironsi centralised the public sector has nothing to do with it. The bottom line is that at independence, it was agreed that every Region would keep 50%, pay the federal government 25% and the rest 25% would go to a general sharing pot. Ironsi maintained that formular throughout the time he was in power. Today, states only keep 13% and the Federal government takes the rest and decides monthly what the sharing pot will be. Which one was better? The 50% of Ironsi's time or the 13% of today?



You should go and learn Nigerian history before coming to discuss politics. Ironsi dissolved the 4 Regions and created 35 provinces? Are you for real? Can you tell us the name of one of these "35 provinces" Ironsi created?

The 4 Regions that existed before Ironsi came to power were still existing almost a year after Ironsi was killed so I'm very interested in knowing about these "35 provinces" you claim Ironsi created.





Nobody is saying that decree 34 did not centralize government or take some powers from the 4 Regions of the time. What I'm saying is that compared to what others who came after Ironsi did, Ironsi was a saint. He kept the four Regions, he kept resource control, he kept fiscal responsibility and autonomy. Resource control is the most important part of being a federation. Ironsi kept it, Gowon came and took it away when he abolished the 4 Regions and created 12 states.



As I said before, you should go and learn Nigerian history before talking politics. Ironsi never conducted any coup, infact, he was the one who frustrated Nzeogwus coup. The current president, Buhari, overthrew the democratically elected government of Shehu Shagari in 1983. That same Buhari is president again today. Which Military rule is guided by public opinion? Which military rule is legitimate? There is no military rule that is guided by public opinion and none is legitimate.

The reason Ironsi is better than all the military leaders that came after him is he is the only one who kept Nigeria closest to the independence constitution as possible, such as:

(1) Ironsi met 4 Regions, he left 4 Region. Gowon met four Regions, he left 12 states. Murtala met 12 states, he left 19 states, OBJ met 19 states, he added 2 more to make 21. IBB met 21 states, he left 30 states. Abacha met 30, he left 36.

ONLY IRONSI LEFT WHAT HE MET

2) Ironsi maintained resource control where Regions got 50% of whatever came out of their land. It was taken away by Gowon and has grown to only 13% today.

3)Ironsi left a high degree of autonomy to the extent that the Regions had their own Ambassadors in other countries like Britain.


Of all the military rulers, Ironsi was by far the best
Now that you have kept on dubiously claiming that Ironsi didn't dismantle the independence constitution, didn't abolish the regions, didn't create provinces and didn't strip the federating units of autonomy; could you kindly tell us what exactly Ironsi meant with the following bolded lines in his May 24 1966 national broadcast as presented below:


Fellow Nigerians:
During the past two weeks I presided over meetings of the Supreme
Military council and the Central Executive Council at which many
important state matters were considered. . .
It is now three months since the Government of the Federal Republic
of Nigeria was handed over to the Armed Forces. Now that peace has
been restored in the troubled areas it is time that the Military
Government indicates clearly what it proposes to accomplish before
relinquishing power. The removal of one of the obstacles on the way
is provided for in the Constitution (Suspension and Modification)
Decree (No. 5) 1966 which was promulgated by me today and comes into
effect at once.
The provisions of the Decree are intended to remove the last
vestiges of the intense regionalism of the recent past
, and to
produce that cohesion in the governmental structure which is so
necessary in achieving, and maintaining the paramount objective of
the National Military government, and indeed of every true Nigerian,
namely, national unity.
The highlights of this Decree are as follows:
The former regions are abolished, and Nigeria grouped into a number
of territorial areas called provinces
. . . .
Nigeria ceases to be what has been described as a federation. It
now becomes simply the Republic of Nigeria
..........
The former Federal Military government and the Central Executive
Council become respectively the National Military Government and the
executive Council
. All the Military Governors are members of the
Executive Council.
A Military Governor is assigned to a group of provinces over which
and subject to the direction and control of the Head of the National
Military Government
, he shall exercise executive power. In order to
avoid any major dislocation of the present administrative machinery,
the grouping of the provinces has been made to coincide with the
former regional boundaries. This is entirely a transitional measure
and must be understood as such. The present grouping of the
provinces is without prejudice to the Constitutional and
Administrative arrangements to be embodied in the New Constitution in
accordance with the wishes of the people of Nigeria.

The National Military Government assumes the exercise of all
legislative powers throughout the Republic subject to such
delegations to Military Governors as are considered necessary for
purposes of efficient administration.
The public services of the former federation and regions become
unified into one national public service under a National Public
Service Commission. There is a provincial Service Commission for
each group of provinces to which is delegated functions in respect of
public officers below a given rank. This rather drastic change will
probably involve a reconstitution of the existing commissions, and
the National Military Government reserves the right to do so in the
manner stipulated in the Decree. Until this is done, the present
Commissioners continue to act in their posts. Every civil servant is
now called upon to see his function in any part of Nigeria in which
he is serving in the context of the whole country. The orientation
should now be towards national unity and progress. I expect all
civil servants to co-operate and to consult at all levels, vertically
and horizontally, between groups of Provinces and between Provinces
and the Centre.
People are aware that Study Groups.......


Read more on
https://www.dawodu.com/irons2.htm
Politics › Re: How Igbo Leaders Caused Nigeria's Current National Political Problems by Deadlytruth(m): 12:28pm On Apr 20, 2019
superlightning:
Wow, your post is a beautiful piece of lengthy trash.

Ironsi "destroyed" the we-the-people constitution right? who were the we-the-people that promulgated the constitution? secondly, what stopped Generals Gowon, Muritala, Obj, Buhari, IBB, Abacha and Abdulsalam from convening a true sovereign national conference that will promulgate a truly we-the-people constitution?

stop regurgitating the lies we all know masquerade as truth.

Ironsi was 10 times better than all the generals after him. Igbos are angry with him because he didnt play the partisan politics other generals after him played. Igbo are angry because he naively surrounded himself with his enemies.

I'm ready to expose your regurgitated lies today.

there were provinces/divisions under the 4 REGIONS, that was expected just as there were provinces before military rule came in. that's why there were ONLY 4 REGIONAL GOVERNORS - hassan katsina (north), temi ejoor (Midwest), ojukwu (east), fajuyi (west)


stop being dubious kid.
You are obviously sick of ignorance. Go to YouTube and watch the video of the 1957 Constiutional Conference held in London and through which the Independence constiution was produced. In the video you will see delegates freely elected from every constiutionency to represent them in the conference. There were no military figures in attendance let alone making any input.

The question you should first answer is whether it was right in principle for Abacha and the rest to have convened an SNC to give us a genuinely we-the-people constiution when Ironsi and Igbos had not been able to explain why they destroyed the first of such that we produced at independence, and also had not appologised and promised not to tamper again with any new one to be made in correction of their first blunder?

For introducing military rule at all thus paving the way for all other military opportunists like himself... to warrant our current comparison, Ironsi remains the worst ruler in Nigeria's history. If he hadn't introduced military rule, would we have been trying to compare which military rule was better than which by now?
Which regurgitated lies? Before I take you up further on your phantom bolded claim above, please explain exactly what Ironsi meant with the bolded sentences in his May 24 1966 national broadcast as follows:

Fellow Nigerians:
During the past two weeks I presided over meetings of the Supreme
Military council and the Central Executive Council at which many
important state matters were considered. . .
It is now three months since the Government of the Federal Republic
of Nigeria was handed over to the Armed Forces. Now that peace has
been restored in the troubled areas it is time that the Military
Government indicates clearly what it proposes to accomplish before
relinquishing power. The removal of one of the obstacles on the way
is provided for in the Constitution (Suspension and Modification)
Decree (No. 5) 1966 which was promulgated by me today and comes into
effect at once.
The provisions of the Decree are intended to remove the last
vestiges of the intense regionalism of the recent past
, and to
produce that cohesion in the governmental structure which is so
necessary in achieving, and maintaining the paramount objective of
the National Military government, and indeed of every true Nigerian,
namely, national unity.
The highlights of this Decree are as follows:
The former regions are abolished, and Nigeria grouped into a number
of territorial areas called provinces
. . . .
Nigeria ceases to be what has been described as a federation. It
now becomes simply the Republic of Nigeria
..........
The former Federal Military government and the Central Executive
Council become respectively the National Military Government and the
executive Council
. All the Military Governors are members of the
Executive Council.
A Military Governor is assigned to a group of provinces over which
and subject to the direction and control of the Head of the National
Military Government
, he shall exercise executive power. In order to
avoid any major dislocation of the present administrative machinery,
the grouping of the provinces has been made to coincide with the
former regional boundaries. This is entirely a transitional measure
and must be understood as such. The present grouping of the
provinces is without prejudice to the Constitutional and
Administrative arrangements to be embodied in the New Constitution in
accordance with the wishes of the people of Nigeria.

The National Military Government assumes the exercise of all
legislative powers throughout the Republic subject to such
delegations to Military Governors as are considered necessary for
purposes of efficient administration.
The public services of the former federation and regions become
unified into one national public service under a National Public
Service Commission. There is a provincial Service Commission for
each group of provinces to which is delegated functions in respect of
public officers below a given rank. This rather drastic change will
probably involve a reconstitution of the existing commissions, and
the National Military Government reserves the right to do so in the
manner stipulated in the Decree. Until this is done, the present
Commissioners continue to act in their posts. Every civil servant is
now called upon to see his function in any part of Nigeria in which
he is serving in the context of the whole country. The orientation
should now be towards national unity and progress. I expect all
civil servants to co-operate and to consult at all levels, vertically
and horizontally, between groups of Provinces and between Provinces
and the Centre.
People are aware that Study Groups

https://www.dawodu.com/irons2.htm
Politics › Re: How Igbo Leaders Caused Nigeria's Current National Political Problems by Deadlytruth(m):
gidgiddy:
Are you talking for the sake of talking? What do you think resource control is? It is when you control the larger share of the proceeds of wealth coming out of your area. So what has civil servants got to do with resource control? It is the private sector that generates wealth, not the public sector. So whether Ironsi centralised the public sector has nothing to do with it. The bottom line is that at independence, it was agreed that every Region would keep 50%, pay the federal government 25% and the rest 25% would go to a general sharing pot. Ironsi maintained that formular throughout the time he was in power. Today, states only keep 13% and the Federal government takes the rest and decides monthly what the sharing pot will be. Which one was better? The 50% of Ironsi's time or the 13% of today?
You are rather the one talking for the sake of talking. How could resource control, a feature of a decentralized government, have remained after Ironsi had centralized government? Your appologetics aimed at absolving Ironsi of laying the foundation of our problems are at best laughable. If you don't know how the Public Service is responsible for resource control, why not go and revise the topic "Public Service" in your SS 2 Government textbook? If it is the private sector that does resource control, then why are we now contending that there is no resource control despite private companies currently flourishing in the country? How could Ironsi have been able to continue paying the salaries of the centralized Public Service if he still allowed the Regions to be keeping 50% of the revenues generated? Or don't you know that it was from that 50% the civil servants were being paid their salaries by the regional governments before Ironsi removed them from regional control to the center's? Are we talking of which is better or who pioneered our deviation from the constiution we all mutually ever consented to?




gidgiddy:
You should go and learn Nigerian history before coming to discuss politics. Ironsi dissolved the 4 Regions and created 35 provinces? Are you for real? Can you tell us the name of one of these "35 provinces" Ironsi created?
You are the one Ignorant of history. When people debate they base their positions on evidences and official records. Ironsi's national broadcast of May 24 1966 clearly stated that Nigeria had stopped being what is referred to as federation....but broken down into 35 provinces which would report to the centre henceforth. In fact throughout that broadcast Ironsi kept on describing the regions as "the former regions". Are you now suggesting that Ironsi didn't know what the adjective "former" means? You once asked me on another thread for the name of the provinces created by Ironsi, and I told you only for you to try to change the topic.[/quote]
gidgiddy:
The 4 Regions that existed before Ironsi came to power were still existing almost a year after Ironsi was killed so I'm very interested in knowing about these "35 provinces" you claim Ironsi created.
The provinces are all there in his May 24 broadcast. Stop being clever by half.
If those four regions were still existing after Ironsi was killed, then why did Gowon find it necessary to promulgate his own Decree which returned the country to status quo ante?




gidgiddy:
Nobody is saying that decree 34 did not centralize government or take some powers from the 4 Regions of the time. What I'm saying is that compared to what others who came after Ironsi did, Ironsi was a saint. He kept the four Regions, he kept resource control, he kept fiscal responsibility and autonomy. Resource control is the most important part of being a federation. Ironsi kept it, Gowon came and took it away when he abolished the 4 Regions and created 12 states.
We've been down this road several times. I don't know why you keep bringing it up without ever addressing the poser I always confront you with in response. Nobody was against Ironsi's creation of the 35 provinces....afterall there was just no way the minorities would have agreed to perpetually remain at the mercy of the three big tribes in the form of Eastern, Northern and Western Regions. In fact the creation of Midwest was already an evidence that the three regions were going to end up split into nunerous states or mini regions on the long run. What people blame Ironsi for is the fact that he didn't allow the autonomy of their parent regions trickle down to them. If he had created one million provinces, no one would have begrudged him as long as he let them enjoy the same level of autonomy which the previous regions enjoyed. So the creation of states by Gowon was not a bad thing as you seem to paint it. Rather it was the wish of the minorities which actually constitute the overwhelming majority when combined and compared with the WAZOBIANS whom we assume are the majority. Both Northern and Southern non-Wazobia tribes welcomed it as a form of emancipation from the strangehold of Wazobians on them. So cut this crap of demonizing Gowon for creating states. Had Ironsi been a Yoruba or Hausafulani, would you have kept on rationalizing his blunders the way you are doing now?


gidgiddy:
As I said before, you should go and learn Nigerian history before talking politics. Ironsi never conducted any coup, infact, he was the one who frustrated Nzeogwus coup. The current president, Buhari, overthrew the democratically elected government of Shehu Shagari in 1983. That same Buhari is president again today. Which Military rule is guided by public opinion? Which military rule is legitimate? There is no military rule that is guided by public opinion and none is legitimate.
The problem I have with you is that despite your obvious lack of use for the meanings of words, you assume you are infallible and all-knowing on Nigeria's political history. Ifeajuna coup was aimed at introducing military rule. Ironsi crushed it and took over power thereby imposing the same military rule which Ifeajuna and co wanted to introduce. So of what use was Ironsi's stoppage of Ifeajuna coup when his own action was aimed at exactly the same outcome as Ifeajuna's? It is likeThief A robs you of your money, and on his way Thief B robs Thief A of the same money and then ran away, then you'll start clapping for theif B for stopping Thief A despite Thief B didn't return the money to you the real owner. Does that make sense? In fact it would have even been better if Ironsi had not stopped Ifeajuna's coup since, going by Nzeogwu's interview to Ejindu, he and Ifeajuna didn't intend to centralize power on successfully taking over.
Buhari did not sack a democratically elected government put in place though a genuinely we-the-people constiution. The 1979 constiution which brought Shagari in was stage-managed by the military establishment overseen by Obasanjo similarly to the 1999 constiution which we currently correctly view as a military document hence not really genuinely the people's constiution.

gidgiddy:
The reason Ironsi is better than all the military leaders that came after him is he is the only one who kept Nigeria closest to the independence constitution as possible, such as:
First and foremost, you should be ashamed that in a country which started as a world class model democratic system of government you are now talking of which military regime was better than which. Whenever you look at a chat of Nigeria's rulers, does it give you joy seeing most of them in military khaki and caps? Was that the Nigeria of the dreams of the likes of Enahoro, Awolowo, Zik, Okpara, etc while they were fighting for independence? If Ironsi had not introduced military rule, would the likes of Gowon, Murtala Muhammed, Obasanjo, Buhari, IBB, Abacha, Shonekan and other mediocres like Ironsi himself have ever come close to power let alone clinch it to now warrant us comparing which evil was lesser regarding military rulers? Do you even think deeply at all?

gidgiddy:
(1) Ironsi met 4 Regions, he left 4 Region. Gowon met four Regions, he left 12 states. Murtala met 12 states, he left 19 states, OBJ met 19 states, he added 2 more to make 21. IBB met 21 states, he left 30 states. Abacha met 30, he left 36.

ONLY IRONSI LEFT WHAT HE MET
False. Ironsi broke down the regions into 35 very weak provinces reporting to the center hence dead autonomy wise. Stop being dishonest.

gidgiddy:
2) Ironsi maintained resource control where Regions got 50% of whatever came out of their land. It was taken away by Gowon and has grown to only 13% today.
3)Ironsi left a high degree of autonomy to the extent that the Regions had their own Ambassadors in other countries like Britain.
Go and read up your SS 2 Government and see the dependence of resource control on the Public Service of federating units.


gidgiddy:
Of all the military rulers, Ironsi was by far the best
Of all Nigeria's rulers, military or civilian, Ironsi is the worst for introducing military rule in the first instance and being the first to break the only agreement we ever all mutually consented to.
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Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 5:37pm On Apr 19, 2019
Yayira:
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Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 10:37am On Apr 19, 2019
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Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 2:38pm On Apr 18, 2019
longlife20:
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Politics › Re: How Igbo Leaders Caused Nigeria's Current National Political Problems by Deadlytruth(m):
gidgiddy:
Ironsi will be remembered for the following:

He kept resource control:- Ironsi maintained the revenue sharing formulae of 50% that gave the Regions the larger share of their resources. Today, states can only get 13%.

He kept the boundaries of the Regions and did not create states:- Unlike other military Rulers who came and started creating states, Ironsi was the only one who kept the 4 Regions he inherited. Gowon created 12 states, Murtala took it to 19, OBJ took to 21, IBB too it to 30 while Abacha raised it to 36. Ironsi was the only military leader who did not sub- divide

He kept autonomy:- Despite decree 34, Ironsi allowed a high degree of autonomy amongst the 4 Regions such resource control, fiscal responsibility and international relations. Some people do not realise that during Ironsis time, all 4 Regions had their own ambassadors to Britain.


The people who are today agitating for the restructuring of Nigeria can only dream of Regions, Resource control, Fiscal responsibility, Autonomy and International relations that all existed during Ironsi's regime. When people talk about Ironsi's decree 34 of 1966, I laugh. Ironsi was the only military leader who tried to preserve the independence constitution as much as possible.

All other military leaders who came after Ironsi were a hundred times worse, they shredded that constitution
Responses:

1. Ironsi destroyed resource control by centralizing the Public Service hence stripping the regional Governments the only constiutionally recognised Institution through which they generated their revenues from resources found within their domains. If Buhari were to centralize the Public service today, a governor like Obiano of Anambra will become redundant as the civil servants working under him will become loyal to and generate revenues for only the FG.
Put in other words; as long as the Public Service is the only means by which subnational units control their resources, whoever centralized the Public Service automatically dismantles resource control. After May 24 1966, the day Ironsi unified the Public Service with his Unification Decree through his national broadcast, no Region had the power to generate revenue anymore let alone hold onto 50% while remitting the other 50% to the center. Everything began to go to the center untill Gowon took over and reversed Ironsi's Unification Decree with his own Decree 9.

2. Ironsi did not really maintain the four regions he met. He took over through the backdoor on January 17, 1966 and appointed military administrators over the regions as a tentative measure pending when he would eventually dissolve them as he had planned against May 24. On May 24 he actually dismantled the regions and broke them down into 35 provinces over which he appointed military administrators whom he commanded to be reporting to him at the center thus stripping them of their autonomy. In his national broadcast on that day, he argued that regionalism was promoting tribal loyalty above nationalism hence it had to give way to a more tightly bound system which would engendere "national unity".
Also, he declared in that broadcast that Nigeria had ceased to be what is referred to as a federation, and changed the country's official name from "Federal Republic of Nigeria" to just "Republic of Nigeria"... meaning that he no longer recognized the previous federating units which were the regions.
3. The argument that Ironsi left the regions intact despite having promulgated Decree 34 presents him as a dullard who didn't know the meaning and implications of a Decree he promulgated or that as a Supreme Commander of the armed forces, he was actually a puppet in the hands of some political figures hence was a weakling who was therefore unfit to handle the situation for which he forced power out of the hands of civilians.

4. Ironsi remains the worst of all present and past Nigeria rulers as it was he alone who tampered with the only genuinely we-the-people constiution we ever had, and dethroned a genuinely democratically elected government. Among all the military rulers we have had, he alone took over power in violation of the oath of office he took on his inauguration day to defend and preserve the constiution. No other military ruler took such oath only to renege on it. He therefore remains the most irresponsible, dubious, unprincipled, fraudulent and deceitful ruler Nigeria ever had. He introduced the abberation called military rule into a perfectly working democracy. He remains the only military ruler who never allowed himself to be guided by Public opinion hence ran the most illegitimate government in the country's history.
The constiution he met in place recommend that in an event of death or incapacitation of the Prime Minister, a member of the parliament thrown up by the parliament should be sworn in as replacement, but Ironsi recklessly violated that provision and swore in himself despite the constiution didn't make any provision for him or any other military man. How on earth could such a person be said to have scored the highest in preservation of the constiution?
Politics › Re: How Igbo Leaders Caused Nigeria's Current National Political Problems by Deadlytruth(m): 12:13pm On Apr 18, 2019
Chinablack:
professor nwabueze of yesterday that was made popular through nadeco activism drafted the so-called ironsi decree? this Kuku na real coco his mumu no get part two
Nwabueze had been very prominent in the scheme of things far before June 12 era came. He headed Ironsi's constiution review committee which advised him to centralize power on the excuse that regionalism/federalism was promoting ethnoregional loyalty above nationalism.
Politics › Re: How Igbo Leaders Caused Nigeria's Current National Political Problems by Deadlytruth(m): 8:11am On Apr 18, 2019
cute9ja:
Claim 4
Every Other Tribe but Igbos Are Betrayers – Ijaws, Yorubas and others

The first military coup in Nigeria was carried out by majority of Igbo army officers.

That was the coup that truncated democracy just six years post-Independence and led to a
succession of coups which put the country on the reverse gear for the next thirty three-(33) years.


The Fact

Through the first coup, those Igbo army officers who accused the politicians and government of the day of monumental corruption, killed the political leaders of the Northern, Western and Midwestern Regions but allowed all Igbo political figures to escape by tipping them off prior to the D-day. In addition to the killing of political figures, they also killed a total of 27 innocent high ranking military officers from every region except the South Eastern Region.

As the coup appeared unsuccessful, J.T. Aguiyi Ironsi, who was supposed to have been killed alongside other military officers, ended up becoming the new military ruler of Nigeria. Rather than immediately arrest and punish the coup plotters, he kept them in detention where they were treated as heroes. This and subsequent actions sowed the seed for the eventual Biafra War
.
On the 23rd of February 1966 (i.e. a month and 8 days after the first coup popularly but wrongly known as Nzeogwu coup), an Ijaw born Army officer called Isaac Adaka Boro who hailed from Kaima town of present Bayelsa State, declared the secession of the Niger Delta Republic in an attempt to free his Ijaw people from the monumental marginalization they had been suffering under Igbos in the old Eastern Region......Aguiyi Ironsi immediately ordered Colonel Odumegwu Ojukwu to arrest him and hand him over to the military high command under him in Lagos. Ojukwu went all out against Isaac Adaka Boro with federal military might and within 12 fighting days killed 150 Isaac Boro's soldiers, arrested him, stripped him naked, and had him driven to Lagos and handed to Ironsi who immediately charged him to court and within two months secured against him a conviction of treasonable felony for which he was sentenced to death by hanging fixed for December 1966 by the Supreme Court.

His 'crime' was that he declared secession of The Niger Delta Republic from Nigeria – sounds familiar?

Meanwhile the Igbo coupists who shed innocent blood of other tribes and even sprayed bullets into the bellies of the pregnant wives of Ahmadu Bello and Brigadier Ralph Shodeinde were not charged to court or arraigned before any military tribunal six months after the coup had taken place. Their dates kept being moved, Aguiyi-Ironsi kept dilly dallying. This formed the reason for subsequent destructive actions that played out.

Isaac Adaka Boro was in detention waiting for December to come for him to join his ancestors. However, a revenge coup was executed on July 29 led by Northern soldiers and Ironsi was killed. Major Yakubu Gowon took over, released Isaac Adaka Boro unconditionally and re-instated him into the Nigeria Army with his previous rank. By this time, dark and ominous clouds had stared to gather over the North as reprisal killings against South Easterners were unleashed by Northerners.

As a result of the large mass of people of South Eastern extraction being maimed and slaughtered by Northerners, on May 30, 1967, Major Odimegwu Chukwuemeka Ojukwu declared secession of South Eastern from Nigeria and without consulting or apologising to Isaac Boro, declared Biafra Republic and drew a map of Biafra which included the very areas that made up Isaac Adaka Boro's earlier declared Niger Delta Republic for which he fought against him and killed his soldiers.

Seeing such level of arrogance in Ojukwu, Isaac Boro asked Gowon to provide arms for him to crush Biafra by fighting on the Nigerian side in vengeance for Ojukwu's frustration of his own secession declaration 15 months earlier. Isaac Boro, as an Ijaw man conversant with the waterways, led the Nigeria Army through the coastal areas into Igboland to finish off thousands of Ojukwu's soldiers thus leading to the crushing defeat of Biafra.

But today, Igbos accuse Ijaws of betraying them in the war. Who betrayed who?

Claim 5
Ojukwu Declared Biafra because other Nigerian tribes did not like the Igbos and failed to honour the Aburi Accord.

The Fact

After Ironsi and Ojukwu successfully crushed Isaac Boro's Niger Delta Republic declaration, Ironsi immediately proceeded to promulgate the Anti-Secession decree (Decree no 34 of 1966) aka the Unification decree which made the mere mention of secession from Nigeria punishable with death by hanging.

Ojukwu openly supported and endorsed the decree despite disapproval of it by the general public. So when Ojukwu later declared Biafra secession, he was reminded of the Anti-secession Decree made by him and his brother Ironsi.

Igbos frequently reference Aburi Accord to create the impression that the rest of the Nigerian tribes don't honour agreements. This is a very dishonest narrative from Igbo considering that Aburi Accord was organized by soldiers and un-elected civil servants who should not participate in political exercises like making laws due to the civil service anonymity principle

Secondly, those civil servants and military men in attendance were not elected representatives of federal constituencies to the Aburi summit. In the philosophy of democracy the only universally acceptable way of making laws is through duly elected representatives of the people.

But in going to Aburi, the peoples' representatives duly elected in the 1965 elections were all side lined for politically naïve soldiers to hijack the process in January 1966 under the guise of getting Nigeria rid of rotten and corrupt politicians.

By principle, it is unheard of that soldiers make laws for the people rather, the elected civilian populace makes laws that guide the military. Aburi Accord therefore had no seal of the people's sovereignty hence it was an illegality which shouldn't have been allowed to stand.

Thirdly, in 1957, Nigerians from all federal constituencies democratically elected representatives whom they sponsored to London, paid their flight tickets and hotel accommodation for the Independence constitutional conference.

Those representatives all resolved and agreed on federalism marked by regional autonomy and resource control in the Independence Constitution which they brought back home and majority accepted it.

In that constitution, Nigerians agreed that on no account shall the military take over power (Azikiwe, as President, twice invited the Military to take over in 1964) while also clearly stating that amendments to the constitution could be done by only democratically elected representatives.

That constitution was the first ever agreement between all Nigerians.

On the day of his inauguration as the Army GOC, Aguiyi Ironsi stood before the whole world and with his own mouth swore to protect and defend that sovereign Independence constitution regardless of the circumstances that may later arise.

But just six years after he manufactured an excuse to clinch power against the clear provisions of that constitution agreed to, unilaterally began to amend its provisions with his very offensive decrees, and ended up dismantling the federalism and resource..control therein, and ultimately subverted that constitution we all painstakingly sacrificed to draft.

That was the height of Irresponsibility and the dis-honouring of sacred agreement. The primary actors who breached the first agreement that all Nigerians, ever all mutually consented to, happened to be of Igbo extraction, thus laying the foundation for violation of future agreements.

SOURCE - http://www.nigerianeye.com/2019/03/the-igbo-elite-and-professionals-and.html
The bolded lines are more examples which the author of your source plagiarized from that moniker's painstaking and in-depth logical analyses.
Politics › Re: How Igbo Leaders Caused Nigeria's Current National Political Problems by Deadlytruth(m): 7:42am On Apr 18, 2019
cute9ja:
The Fact 1.2

What rules guided the Military in governing the country after the suspension of the constitution?

Renowned professor of constitutional law, Professor Ben Nwabueze was the man who drafted the constitution that took away powers from regions and handed it to the central government to help Aguiyi-Ironsi consolidate the powers of the regions.

It is surprising today, that Professor is shouting regional and fiscal restructuring, a system of governance that he helped to destroy with the Unitary system he drafted and was promulgated into law in 1966 to aid his kinsman consolidate power.

Claim 2

Igbos Were Made Third Class Citizens in Nigeria by the active collusion of Hausa/Fulani, Yoruba & British Colonial Government since the amalgamation of Northern Nigeria and Southern Nigeria protectorates into Nigeria in 1914

The Igbo want to blame the Hausa/Fulani, Yoruba and indeed every other Nigerian tribe and Lord Lugard/Britain other than themselves for their alleged claim of being third class citizens in Nigeria.

In their perpetual attempts to play the victim card, they recount the political events of Nigeria from 1914 to the present with half-truths and in a highly selective manner that cleverly avoids the mention of the roles played by their elite who by all natural laws of judgement were actually responsible for the woes that befell not only the Igbo race but emasculated the entire Nigeria nation.

The Fact

A little while after the 1914 Amalgamation of the Northern and Southern Protectorates, it became clear to political actors that the country was bound to fail considering that the act of the amalgamation was done with colonial fiat and without the consent and consensus of the over 300 different tribes that were lumped together.

This prompted the political leaders to demand for de-amalgamation so as to forestall the cracks in the
union in the future, a danger which the forced amalgamation portended. To this end, Ahmadu Bello, Sardauna of Sokoto, speaking on behalf of the Northern protectorate in 1944, described the amalgamation as "…the mistake of 1914 which if allowed to remain will ultimately lead to unstoppable bloodshed and a failed country."

Chief Obafemi Awolowo, speaking on behalf of the Yorubas and other non-Yoruba South Western ethnicities, described Nigeria as “…a mere geographical expression not qualified to be called a country let alone a nation.” Chief Awolowo added that if the amalgamation could not be reversed, then Nigeria should be structured as a strictly federal state so as to enable each tribe enjoy autonomy this freedom from being dominated by any one single tribe (he had experienced first-hand how Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe attempted to hijack the political leadership of Lagos, Nigeria’s foremost commercial nerve centre and native homeland of the Aworis, a Yoruba tribe that arrived at Lagos in the 14th to 15th century from Isheri in today’s Ogun State)

Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe, speaking for the Igbos, denounced Awolowo and Ahmadu Bello, terming them ethnic champions. He accused them of nursing a sectional agenda against the unity of Nigeria, and he declared further that the unity of Nigeria was non-negotiable.

After moving the self-rule motion for independence in 1953, Anthony Enahoro proposed that a secession clause should be incorporated into the future constitution of Nigeria so as to give legal backing for any tribe to peacefully exit the forced union should it feels marginalized in future.

According to Enahoro, such provision in our constitution would instill in all Nigeria's future leaders the fear of the consequences of mis-governance. At the start of the 1954 London Constitution Conference Chief Obafemi Awolowo tabled a motion to the effect that this secession clause be inserted and over a full day debate, Awolowo drove home his points referencing the Soviet
Union and Western Australia. In responding, Dr Azikiwe made his points using the expression “the indivisibility and perpetuity of the Federation” with references to United States.

At a later date, Awolowo too made a case for secession clause, but Azikiwe again resisted him and instigated the colonial authorities to threaten him and Enahoro with charges of treasonable felony if they did not stop proposing secession clause for the future.

Before independence, Tafawa Balewa too had in a public speech described Nigeria as a British experiment and Nigeria's unity as a British intention which Nigerians themselves don't believe in. But Azikiwe kicked and demonized him too. Had Azikiwe supported the motion with Enahoro, Awolowo, Ahmadu Bello and Tafawa Balewa about the spirit of allowing a secession clause to be enshrined in our constitution, perhaps, Nigerian leaders would have known the checks and balances
that ensured fair play for all ethnic groupsin the amalgamation.

Instead, he played into the hands of the British Colonial Masters who took advantage of this difference and supported Azikiwe’s position therefore forever enshrining the clause of “indivisibility and perpetuity of the Federation” in our constitution.

There are no records documenting the disaffection of other South East members, present at parliament and Constitutional conference in which Azikiwe opposed Awolowo's secession clause motion, against Azikiwe’s position.

Claim 3

The South East and Igbos at large are being stopped from seceding because they have a smaller mass of land and population.

Igbos initially never wanted to hear anything like secession in Nigeria believing that they had the most educated crop of civil service, teachers, soldiers and professionals and this fuelled the thoughts of their elites hence their initial resistance to the idea of secession as indicated in their quotes:

"From all indications, the god of us Igbos have destined us to rule the whole of
Africa"..... Nnamdi Azikiwe (1945).

"It is getting clearer each day that Igbo domination of Nigeria is just a question of
time"... Oscar Onyeama. (1949)


The Fact

As at 1900, the whole of the present Benue State, Kogi East Senatorial District and some southern parts of Taraba State called Munchi District back then, were all part of the Southern Protectorate.

With that situation, the South had a higher population than the North hence always had an upper hand in any democratic bargain.

But by the early fifties when the regions were being created, common sense dictated clearly that these areas should fall in the future Eastern Region.[b]But against common sense, the colonial masters decided to gerrymander them into the Northern Region. While they did that, Azikiwe who was supposed to be in Enugu fighting against it as the leader of the East, was far away in Ibadan struggling with Awolowo to rule the Western Region and also playing the spoiler role against Awolowo's attempts to have Kwara and present Kogi Yorubas (the Igbiras) carved into the Western Region from the North which was already too large by landmass.

While Azikiwe abandoned his burning house and was far away in Ibadan struggling against Awolowo for his own (Awolowo's) region, Igbos saw absolutely nothing wrong with that. Rather they applauded him as a nationalist. A nationalist whose house was burning yet busy chasing rats in a faraway land.

When opinions of anti-colonial governance became unanimous that the British Colonial government must be forced out of Nigeria and indeed the whole of Africa, it was still the Igbos that frustrated the attempts as chronicled below.

In 1948, Anthony Enahoro organized an anti-colonization symposium in Lagos for which Dr. Azikiwe was to deliver the keynote address.

When the D-day came, Azikiwe failed to show up. Anthony Enahoro then quickly replaced Azikiwe with another person who did the impromptu job perfectly well as he lambasted and lampooned the British Colonial Government.

However, the British soldiers invaded the symposium venue, arrested the speaker and Enahoro and jailed them for treasonable felony.

Ironically, the next day Azikiwe came out of hiding and granted a radio interview on which he accused Enahoro and the other organizers of suffering from youthful exuberance.

On regaining his freedom few weeks later and being told of Azikiwe's radio interview, Enahoro resigned from his post as Deputy editor of Azikiwe's newspaper - The West African Pilot. Subsequently he wrote a book titled "Nnamdi Azikiwe: Sinner of Saint". After launching the book, Enahoro left Azikiwe's party - the NCNC, and moved over to Awolowo's Action Group.

SOURCE - http://www.nigerianeye.com/2019/03/the-igbo-elite-and-professionals-and.html

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@OP, the author of the article you referenced actually plagiarized a lot of logical analyses already done by the monicker called Deadlytruth on various NL threads about Igbos' misadventures in Nigeria's political history. The bolded lines are purely original to that moniker.
If you want the links to the NL threads which the author of your source plagiarized to make up his article without giving credit to the genuine original author of those arguments, you can be furnished with them.
Travel › Re: See The First 3D Zebra Crossing In Nigeria (Photos And Video) by Deadlytruth(m): 5:54am On Apr 18, 2019
A woman was crossing a road in Lagos. The zebra crossing lines at that point at which she was crossing gave her the confidence to cross slowly. However, on getting right into the middle of the road she suddenly sighted a danfo bus approaching with top speed that she had to complete the crossing by taking to her heels to avoid being knocked down by the danfo driver who obviously didn't give a damn about traffic rules. On escaping successfully to the other side of the road she shouted at the danfo driver saying, ''Why speed like that? Can't you see zebra crossing?". In response the danfo driver said, "Are you a zebra?".
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 9:41pm On Apr 17, 2019
teejay1334:
tnx boss
pls how can I open d account
There are analogue and digital stockbroking houses. If you choose to use an analogue one, you will be having to go to their office physically in person to fill mandate forms each time you want to buy or sell. A merciful analogue stockbroking house would request that you take home a copy of their mandate form, and whenever you want to buy or sell, you fill it, sign, and send a scanned copy of it to their email address before they execute your mandate.
But with a digital stockbroking house, you do the buying and selling right from the comfort of your house or office with a computer or a smart phone with internet subscription.

To register with a stockbroking house of your choice, go physically to their office and fill their registration form, and also provide your passport photographs, evidence of residential address, Identity document, and all that jazz.
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 7:21pm On Apr 17, 2019
teejay1334:
8yrs
You see, the truth which no experienced investor or trader on NSE can deny is that the act of buying a stock and going to sleep with the hope of waking up after some years to see a bountiful harvest is nothing but suicide mission. Some of us you see here today with aversion for long terming are products of the bitter experiences of it. You could see a stock today apparently sound with 100% score on feasibility of using it for long term only for you, two years thereafter, to start hearing stories that touch on that very stock. No stock on NSE is immune enough to disaster for as long as an eight year confidence in it.
You will be safer to buy a stock of your choice after your due diligence, and then stay awake to take any momentary opportunity of profit it brings you.
For example, whoever bought FO at N8 eight years ago and went to sleep with the mindset of long term would as of today have missed selling when it twice peaked at above N300 and now wobbling at N24 amidst very deadly uncertainties.
Long terming is supposedly a means to an end and not the end itself.

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