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[quote author=Ileke-IdI]The "I don't know, I don't care" syndrome. Ignorance is not bliss, you overgrown Okoro bushbaby.

Just ask Dayo to explain his post in the simplest of term for you to better understand.[/quote]How is bottom?

Anyway, Dayolodo and Ekiti Ikebe are trolls who believed this rubbish “I think most Nigerians who come to the US are middle class at the minimum” to be true. It is either you are drunk or malnourished to the point of confusion. Where did fools such as you and Dayolodo get the whiff of middle class strata in Nigeria?

CyberG: OnyeloserAfam ===> https://www.nairaland.com/908865/what-nigeria-means-me-story#10545092

Why are you coming to America for goodness sake when your choice places are overflowing with gold in whatever rock you live? You cannot even fit into a decent Nigerian society, talk less of America who dash your efulefu monkey groundnuts? You are my slave if you use a computer, a phone, fly in a plane, a car, a TV, any semiconductor or piece of software. You see people don't wake up here to think of their tribe but get to work. Bottomline is don't come and pollute this atmosphere with your vileness and evil KKK life.

Cyberfool, you are not even a talented mor0n. Are you now ashamed of living in Peckham, London? The manner in which you scribe English words does not speak volumes about you. Who will dash a jailbird such as you passage to USA even though UK is on the favorable list yet there are exceptions.

dayokanu: I agree with Ekt bear

I think most Nigerians who come to the US are middle class at the minimum.

First most of them are literate hence their ability to pass a visa interview. Almost all of them have at least a high School and some higher education maybe Technical college or Nursing school.

And a significant part of them have college degrees.

What percentages of Nigerians in Nigeria have college degrees vs Nigerians in Diaspora that have a college degree

How many times do you see ppl of the caliber of Market women, labourers or Almajiris get visas to go to the US

By extension children tend to achieve at least what their parents achieve educationally. If your parents have High school degrees, Its almost impossible for you not to have a High school degree or more

Ekt, I think this point holds for Indians too or are they classified with Asians? I believe if Indians are taken separately they would be higher than Nigerians cos Hardly do you see Indians doing menial jobs and most white collar professions they form a huge part of the foreign quota e.g medicine, Finance, IT(>>60%), Pharmacy.

Not common to find an indian flipping burgers or sweeping the road

This is a yawn from another confused fellow. I know many Nigerians who earned degrees of any strata yet their parents were peasant farmers or market women that never saw four walls of elementary school. In the neck of my woods, it borders on individual determination to achieve laurels in academic despite the wicked presence of poverty.

[quote author=ekt_bear]Sam Ikenna.

Not too sure how old you are. But are you saying that your parents were not amongst the upper echelon of education in Nigeria?

The problem is I think some of you are defining "elite" only by the amount of money in someone's pocket.

But the way the world has been for the past 30 or 40 years of so, this isn't the case...if you have brains but no money, you can easily earn an excellent salary.

If your parents went to somewhere like UNN or whatever the best Eastern Nigerian schools were at that time, then I'm not sure it is fair to pretend as if you are just an ordinary guy, or the child of ordinary folk

Not many were able to do what your parents did..[/quote]I disagree with your scenario of having “brains but no money, you can easily earn an excellent salary” as it pertains to a society such as Nigeria. This scenario can be obtainable in well-structured and organized society where brainy chaps are harnessed and poverty does not constitute a road block.

What your scenario has given Nigeria are the so-called yahoo-yahoo boys, kidnapers, call-girls and gangsters as university students, 419ers, bad government, extremely hustling group of people willing to pull off any job for money and dysfunctional society.

[quote author=ndu_chucks]How many of the 100-150 million Nigerians do you think have the opportunity to own or drive a car, to the point of being able to extend road courtesy. You must belle full first before you begin find motor to drive. You sir belong to the said upper class. Your only flaw is the limitation you place on your potentials, by your continuous and foolish call for the disintegration of our dear country.[/quote]There is no country or nation or even group of people that has seen smiley side of progress without unity. The word, unity, can never be used in the same sentence with Nigeria. Those who have foolishly called for continuous fake and meaningless co-existence in Nigeria are sworn enemy to mankind.

Nigeria as presently constituted will never see progressive period. I do not know what part of Nigeria you reside but in Igbo land ordinary pure water seller has car or motorize object. Days are gone when means of transportation are reserved for the middle or upper class in Nigeria especially in Igbo land.

FACE: Some of you guys are very silly. The OP and some other people keep opening threads that leave people to wonder how some of you guys reason.

Afam or whatever you call yourself, you ought to be ashamed that you are a novice in the topic you wish to discuss.

One of the first responses you got from this silly topic was from someone, Alhaji Harem or whatever, who told you that Gowon built Nkalagu cement factory for you after the civil war and some other rubbish he said and you conceded that nonsense to him and continued to open your flanks for unwarranted attacks.

Afam, are you a dunce or does Seun give you guys money to come up with diiotic topics to keep this useless forum alive ? Who does not know that Nkalagu cement was established by eastern region govt and was the first cement factory in Nigeria ? Due to your idiocy and lack of knowledge, you let some infant give Gowon credit for one of Okpara's achievements, who also established Golden Guinea Breweries, Ceramic Industry, PH (trans Amadi) industrial estate, presidential hotel PH, Hotel presidential Enugu,Calabar cement,defunct Eastern Nigeria University alongside other achievements within the same era.

I am not going to ask you and your cohorts to stop making floos of yourselves, but a word is enough for the wise.

This stupid drivel is simply not needed. I guess the items you listed were the only Okpara’s achievements. Must an OP respond to any crap posted by a numskull?

Callotti: PROUDLY NIGERIAN IN THE GREAT USA OF COURSE. . .ON MY BED FOR THE WEEKEND!!!!!!

Whether you spread eagle on the mall or bend over in alley, I do not give a freaking hoot.

ow11: 1. You are right about the Tutsis however, the war isn't being used as a rallying point

2. I wrote about the Algerian war to highlight the indifference younger Algerians have towards the French that many years ago were enemies and committed atrocities.

3. MASSOB is fighting a just cause if they highlight the travails of the average Igbo man and they do and I would prefer to see threads talking about strategies to either tip the power balance towards the SE or a new country but goodness me, rehashing misdeeds about the war is not necessary and can increase animosity and bitterness.

I have a Tutsi friend and been to Kigali. Do not tell me about what is a rally point to them. It appears the Europeans such as British knew what is good for Croats, Bosnians, Slovenians, Montenegro and Kosovo but same was not good for Biafrans.

It is rather foolish than prudent to ask as a matter of just cause for MAASOB to highlight the travails of the average Igbo man. Which group hightlighted the travails of average Croats, Bosnians, Slovenians, Montenegro and Kosovo man in the former Yugoslavia?

The Nigeria/Biafra war was a reality of life and it carries some burdens. The burden can not and will never be wished away. The only way to even minimize the burden will be actualization of Biafra or Republic of Igbo land. As long as Nigeria keeps wobbling into the path of emptiness, the animosity generated by Nigeria/Biafra war will attend a feverish peach.

ow11: Rwanda is the only sub saharan country that will achieve their MDGs by 2015. They wouldn't be achieving that If their ordinary folk( from where the leaders actually come from) are bent on getting a payback from the Hutu dominated government. OR basically writing blogs and sharing videos and pictures of the violence as displayed by many Nigerians that are stuck in 1970.

Bosnia-Herzegovina has a growing economy but is still very poor (like ours) but they are only planning to hold a memorial and not sharing violent pictures and videos or asking for a retribution. The muslims, croats and serbs are in the government together building the country. The youths go to school together and the younger generation (which you are supposed to belong to in our own case) do not talk about the war as passionate and bitter as you do. Check http://www.dw.de/dw/article/0,,15862279,00.html

Algeria suffered a lot during their war of independence as did many Libyans but the only generation which hold some form of bitterness towards the French or Italians are those that fought or lived through the war. The youths aren't even interested (Hell even Zidane played football for France).

No one is saying the Igbos didn't get a raw deal before, during and the immediate aftermath of the war but given the circumstances, It would do all of us a big favour if our generation try to solve our inherited problems and leave the war bitterness for old men in the village to talk about in with anger, disappointment or some glorious battle victories.

You have foolishly written what Biafrans such as MASSOB and reasonable Igbo people are trying very hard to achieve. It is a needed situation where the so-called Nigeria or Oodua or Arewa and Biafra would live side by side while building their countries. Nigeria/Biafra war was not a war of independence but separation of nation states

ow11: Rwanda is the only sub saharan country that will achieve their MDGs by 2015. They wouldn't be achieving that If their ordinary folk( from where the leaders actually come from) are bent on getting a payback from the Hutu dominated government. OR basically writing blogs and sharing videos and pictures of the violence as displayed by many Nigerians that are stuck in 1970.

Bosnia-Herzegovina has a growing economy but is still very poor (like ours) but they are only planning to hold a memorial and not sharing violent pictures and videos or asking for a retribution. The muslims, croats and serbs are in the government together building the country. The youths go to school together and the younger generation (which you are supposed to belong to in our own case) do not talk about the war as passionate and bitter as you do. Check http://www.dw.de/dw/article/0,,15862279,00.html

Algeria suffered a lot during their war of independence as did many Libyans but the only generation which hold some form of bitterness towards the French or Italians are those that fought or lived through the war. The youths aren't even interested (Hell even Zidane played football for France).

No one is saying the Igbos didn't get a raw deal before, during and the immediate aftermath of the war but given the circumstances, It would do all of us a big favour if our generation try to solve our inherited problems and leave the war bitterness for old men in the village to talk about in with anger, disappointment or some glorious battle victories.

Hutu does not dominate government in Rwanda. I suggest you get your facts straight

ow11: Good Heavens!What a bunch of whiny bitter posters we have on NL. . . .

Wars have been fought throughout the ages, Countries have been destroyed and innocent lives lost but the difference between those nationals and the OP is that many have moved on.

I can even wager that the OP was born after 1970 but he is so bitter about something he never experienced and is determined to keep re-opening that wound till thy kingdom come. The Bosnian Muslims and Croats have moved on, The Tutsis have moved on after only 18 years but 42 years later someone is opening a thread asking for retribution and to moan and whine about a sad part of our national history.

@afam4eva, You need to get over this war. Discuss current national politics or something else. I still believe Nigerians will be better off if this nation divded into bits but come on, this latching onto a bloody horrible war that killed millions 42 years ago is not a way to start.

This is a typical and illogical analogy Nigerians are noted. If Biafra was a country, I do not think issues pertinent to Nigeria/Biafra war should engender acrimony as it does today. Rwanda has move on because the Tutsis who received the initial brunt of genocide found themselves on top of the food chain and judiciously corrected the wrongs done to them. In former Yugoslavia, Bosnians and Croats have their independent countries which soothe the war pains.

Until Biafra or Republic of Igbo land is actualized, those who call Nigeria/Biafra war era to be forgotten shall remain nincompoops.

[quote author=ndu_chucks]Is the old Mid-West located in the east?[/quote]You forgot Gowon and Nigerians would have sold Nigeria to make sure mid-western region remained glued.

[quote author=ndu_chucks]You people are arguing about semantics, but I have to agree with Mallam ekt_bear, that most of you people here on NL and abroad are upper class Nigerians.

How many of the 100million people can afford 3 square meals, not to talk of affording to access the internet, and much more going abroad for further education? You elitists here on NL, are suffering from a dangerous disconnect and ignorance of the human conditions in your own country.

How many of the 20million people in Lagos can afford or will ever have the opportunity to travel and/or visit Abuja/Kaduna or Port Harcourt? Ponder the question and see that you are from the upper class of Nigeria.[/quote]The above assertion is far from the truth. Do you know how many times I have been laughed off on the streets in Owerri for extending ordinary road courtesy to a fellow road user? It is not necessarily true that most Nigerians in USA are drawn from the pool of upper class Nigerians. You are known to have argued against citing International airport in eastern region of Nigeria. Nigeria needs to be completely erased and redrawn.

Most people in USA have not moved beyond the boundary of towns or counties because they do not need to move.

CyberG: This piece of shaite Odedee1 must think it is welcome among cadavers, maggot eaten dead animals talk less of humans! What a biiiigggg fat sore old loser since before 1967 and yet it still remains a core loser! Why has it (dede1) not been buried alive? Well, the time is nigh for your old wide flat nosed obdurate head to be used to carry sacrifices to amadioha you hateful soul.

FYI, it makes it (dedeaccursed) mad to know I am right at the top of the group mentioned. Multiple degrees, inventions, publications that will be googled till eternity and how old am I?

It also pains it that I just painted the imperfect but great country of Nigeria so glowingly, no part of Nigeria will want to secede anywhere else and that neighboring countries might actually want to join such a Nigeria. Ha! Dedefool Tribalist is dead and rotten yet Nigeria remains. The East, West, North and every people remains a united country. . .lol. Keel over and die old dedenbula!

Wetin concern the agberodende1 with the Internet I pay for? Efulefu. Anuofia. Onye beribe.

Any fool such as you who still holds abode at Peckham, London can never be on top of anything not even street pickpocket. If I had to judge a character from the above incoherent drivel, I would easily say an insane maggot. It will amount to ultimate compliment to call you efulefu or Anuofia. If this scenario shall be the case, what the hell is reserved for a domesticated monkey?

afam4eva: Do you have any proof of the bolded?

Do not waste your time on the deluded and loudmouthed ninnies such as torkaka, alj harem and Musiwa

Callotti: These lecherous Igbo men have come again?
I believe my question was to the OP. . .NOT YOU!
True Nigerians go and phock/marry people from other tribes.
Save your children from tribalism.
SAY NO TO 100%. . .BIGOTRY!!!!

Did OP particularly referred to you when he/she opened the thread? Did you realize this is a public joint? I guess when a phucking phuck is asking about phuck, the phuck is on the phucking phuck.


There is nothing you or any other deluded individual could do to change the fact I am Igbo. If being who I am is regarded as bigotry by goofy and wily coyote such as you, I had worn it as a badge of honor.

[quote author=ekt_bear]Basically what is happening is that a large fraction of the best talent Africa has is being drained away to America.

Contrast this with India or China, which still has craploads of its best folk still in the country.

Indian/Chinese kids I know, a much larger fraction of them come here to get education but either return or plan on returning.

Naija man leaves Nigeria, he is only coming back for vacations...ain't ever coming back[/quote]You do not need to excoriate Nigerians who have abdicated their initial commitment to return to what is generally considered a cesspit for country such as Nigeria after they have acquired academic laurels in USA.

CyberG: Does any data exist to compare for Asians, Africans, Caucasians, Native, etc? This will be a good reference point. I believe the major reason why Nigeria does not get the right credit it deserves is the totally useless, generational bad leadership, poor followership leading to a poor image in the international community. Imagine if Nigeria actually is "working" well and progressing as a country? Imagine we're minting bright Ph. Ds, Masters, Bachelors, Professors, nobel laureates, technologists and technicians, competent administrators who are coming together to form a critical mass inventing things in Nigeria, building the infrastructure, expanding international trade, creating rival educational systems to the best in the world, excellent healthcare, a growing and strong military, an effective forward-looking foreign policy, technology, expansive, mechanized agriculture and also given birth to many smart kids to take over, we will be getting a lot more credit.

You are really a Cyberfool as your handle rightfully suggested. If not, why would you decimate Internet Bandwidth on expired news?

Callotti: So. . .who are you phocking right now?

I guess, Callotti!!!!

Most Nigerians are simply idiotic. Granted the Otuoke is GEJ’s home and Italian would not have donated a church to the community if not for GEJ but the church was not given to GEJ. The Italian firm could have donated the church to any community as Mosques have been built by Julius Berger in certain parts of Nigeria. People should quit implying and face the fact.

The Anglican Church or the Archbishop has every right to comment on this issue not because of GEJ but Otuoke community and the church the Italians built. Besides the Italian firm is a private company which can do as it deems fit

This list of candidates for the leadership of Egbe Omo Oodua on NL is null and void without Aare Ona Kakanfo, Omo Agbalagba, the shon of the shoil Becomepoor aka Musiwa. The omission of the name to the only shon of Oodua who resides in Canada is a culpable insult if not quickly remedied could lead to reincarnation of Operation Wate.

Nigeria as a country is not even real, talk less of “Youwin Nigeria”. If British come back and offer Nigeria for sale, despite the crude oil wells, and I am the only capable buyer, they will go home very disappointed.

bittyend: Silly Nigerians making comparisons based on the scholarship of CNN's major propagandist in Asia.. This generation of Nigerians need their heads examined.

There is no problem with the country called Nigeria - Nigerians and our mentality are the problem. We need a new orientation, and a new consciousness to make this country great - and everything starts with you and I.

Keep playing the blame game and not effect a change, slowpoke.

Should you be a latent fool forever? Unity is the key factor among developing countries. The main ingredient that sustains unity is lacking in Nigeria. Nigeria’s diversity is the bane of its socio-politico-economic growth.

alj harem: Again Dede1, their are pensioners all over the country dying of poverty even though they have served the nation for more than 30 years. Is it fair that some elements in our society are stilling their saving ? Yes or No knowing fully well they are too old to work but they still have responsibilities.

Any Nigerian who remotely accepts to have served the cesspit called Nigeria for the last 40 years is not due for pension. Why anybody from Nigeria should be paid any kobo for giving us present-day Nigeria? A person does not expect any pay when the person directly or indirectly helped produce a junk.

uihebom: am igbo my self,but dis matter have got noting to do with igbo hausa or yoruba.so shusshh. the woman thinks shes a comedian by tell Nigerians she made 82million from selling pure water not even table water. she's daft,its like she doesn't know that there is something call audit firm that can check her so called EVA water.she is igbo so we should hide her and protect her from the authority.look i hate when traders comments in dis forum.thief na thief.weda black or albino igbo yoruba or aboki theif na thief.

I do not care if you are Igbo or non-Igbo. Any case in Nigeria must be followed to the sweetness of Nigeria contest. Is she the only person on parade among the swindlers? Have you asked yourself why other alleged swindlers were not mentioned in all posts? Have you ever in your miserable life attempted to erect a pure water factory?

In fact, you stopped making sense when you invoked the phrase- audit firm in the same sentence with issues that relate to Nigeria. As it stands now, the lady and co-conspirators have not been convicted of any crime yet Nigerians are already intoxicated with rumors.

If those who responded to thread have any brain, they would have mentioned the other conspirators in their stupid write-ups. If I did not know better than reading the craps on this woman from Nairaland, I would have thought she was the only person charged.

Besides, why should anybody think good of a cesspit called Nigeria? I say to hell with Nigeria.

[quote author=~Bluetooth]Why do ibos always find somebody to blame for their misfortunes ?[/quote]Join us in the agitation for the disintegration of Nigeria so that you would not be bothered by the blame from Ndigbo. As long as the cesspit called Nigeria exists, you must have ear full of blames from Ndigbo. I suggest you shut up your putrid mouth and live with it.

alj harem: You have started again, he is not the first person it would happen to. Also it has nothing to do with his ethnicity because it has happened to hausa and yorubas as well even edo/delta people have falling victim.

The first person that comes to my mind and the first Nigerian to be given such treatment was Dr Njoku Obi of cholera vaccine. I would want a numskull such as you to list names but avoid obscure instances.

alj harem: The problem in Nigeria is even though they see the wickedness in a person, they would support the person so long as it is from their ethnic group. Very sad by true

Now some people are still authoritatively telling us that one can make multimillion in pure water.

One of the most popular pure water I know (atleast in Lagos and Kano) is daily pure water. I happen to know the owner, The owner not make big millions every month. Yes their is money on the business but during the dry season they can make as high as 10 million naira and wet season they can make as low is 3 million naira.

Now claiming 82 million Naira is outrageous.

The wickedness is stealing old people pension is one of the most wicked thing a man can do to another man.

How can a 70 years old man that has served the nation for 50 years not get paid pension given that he has no saving and has been donating to his pension since he started 50 years ago ?

That is wicked and cruel.

I urge you to try opening pure water business in Nigeria today and face the shock of required expenditure. Nobody seemed to absolve the lady of culpability but one wonders why is the scorn mostly directed at her because she is Igbo. Have you suddenly forgot the Permanent Secretary Atiku Abubakar Kigo, director, Esai Dangabar, Ahmed Inuwa Wada, John Yakubu Yusufu and Sani Habila Zira.

These people are mere accused persons and have not been convicted of any crime. Yet idle Nigerians are already having field day in convicting and inching to have them lynched.

Nigerians need to be monotonously insulted anytime and anywhere. Please let us do away with Nigeria and start afresh on different platforms.

kokoA: We are talking of a civil servant junior officer owning a pure water company that makes that much. And you know our civil servants aren't exactly the highest paid in the world.

It is very unfortunate Nigerians approach every issue with biased. The article did not indicate the woman is the owner of the pure water business. The water business was established by her late brother.

Pure water is very lucrative business since NAFDAC cleaned the industry. Why is this woman the focus of Nigeria’s societal scorn when her bosses who made all authorization are not even mention? Tribalism is the key to Nigeria’s stunted growth

@POST

The moronic nitwits who are members of Lagos State House of Assembly should have called for the law abiding members of society to be armed. They should have enacted laws that will grant individuals the right to bear arms in Lagos State. I konw others states will follow the example.

[quote author=~Bluetooth]UBTH have recorded success in stem cell technology,this one dey there dey complain that they want to hijack his technology.robis[/quote]What the hell is UBTH?