Politics › Re: Lagosians Should Expect ‘O To Ge’ Revolution In 2023 – Bode George by Dedetwo(m): 12:27am On Jul 30, 2020 |
NkemChukwudi: .
I am a Yoruba man from Lagos State. Any Yari.ba person in Lagos is a migrant. |
Politics › Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Dedetwo(m): 12:25am On Jul 30, 2020 |
Atigba: Igbos didnt come out from Benin. Benin kingdom was established in 12 century AD by prince Orominyan.
Benin kingdom is a portion of land in Igodomigodo. The Igbos migrated from Igodomigodo. This is one of the idiotic conjectures I ever read on this forum. Where was the migration point of the people of Igodomigodo, including Bini? The Igbo people, Igbo being derived from Gboo or Ndi gboo which means ancient people or original did not migrate from anywhere, There is not other place you can see people like Igbo people in world except in Nigeria. |
Politics › Re: The Origin Of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam And Ututu People Of Abia State by Dedetwo(m): 12:16am On Jul 30, 2020 |
Atigba: The Origin of Arochukwu, Ohofia, Abam, Ututu etc. - by Prof. J. Akuma-Kalu Njoku.
Around 16 century, the southern part of Igboland was originately inhabited by Oru people before some Igbos in the Northern part migrated to join Oru due to population pressure and depletion of quality of farmland. *Note the Oru people who were the aborigines of The land stem from Igodomigodo.*
In addition to southward migration, another group of migrants, the Mben - Owan group, migrated from Igodomigodo/Edo State eastward across the Niger River and passed through Oru moving further eastward until they came to a place they called Be Ndi (Bende) Igbo, meaning Igbo territory. Some of the names of these immigrants who migrated from Igodomigodo and populated Bende were; Alayi, Igbere, Nkalu Itu, Abam, Ohofia, Ututu and Arochukwu.
These Igodomigodo immigrants aggressively displaced the original Anang and ibibio inhabitants of the area and claimed their forest and lands. The case of of Abam, Ohofia and Ututu was particularly poignant because of the brutal way they went about forest and land acquisitions. They faughtand virtually wiped out or displaced the aborigines. Thus, whereas the Igbo to Oru migration and settlement pattern were marked by pacts of mutual coexistence with the aborigines of Oru, the Mben - Owan trail to Bende was marked with incidences of displacement and subjugation.
J. Akuma-Kalu is an Associate professor of Folklore and Ethnomusicology in the Department of Folklore Studies and Anthopology at Western Kentucky University.
Source: Establishing Igbo Community Tradition in the United States: Lessons from Folkloristic.
*Nnadi Kanu is from Afara Ohofia and his ancestors are from Igodomigodo, present day Edo State. He should stop deceiving uneducated Igbos about Jewish ancestry. People write about these migration as if it was done in the today's society where there are express roads and measured amount of civilization. Even as recently as when the British were writing treaties after treaties in Igbo land, it was very difficult to go from Amaraku to Owerri. Most of all these silly migrations were mere figment of author's imagination. |
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Politics › Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by Dedetwo(m): 4:58pm On Jul 29, 2020 |
Christistruth00: There is Eko-Ende and Eko-Ajala In Osun State. Okay there is Eko-Ende and Eko-Ajala in Osun State. Be mindful that Lagos was\is known as Eko. Was Lagos Eko-Idiarba, Eko-Ijebu, Eko-Otta, Eko-Surulere, Eko-Bariga or Eko-Idimota? |
Politics › Re: Forgotten History Of Igbo Tribe And Northern Alliance by Dedetwo(m): 12:27pm On Jul 29, 2020 |
FrLukas:
This is silly. They cannot feed themselves how?
They had the groundnut pyramids.
Till today majority of the food products enjoyed by Nigeria comes from the North.
In fact before the incoming or the colonialists, the Yorubas had been trading with the North.
So what do you mean by the North couldn't feed itself? I'm confused here.  Please start a real talk of disintegration of the shithole called Nigeria and watch the section of the country that will begin rioting and shivering. Are you a learner? Why did you think northern region of Nigeria initiated war in 1967? Ndigbo and Biafrans will never go to war because northern region wants to Niger and Chad. And definitely Ndigbo and Biafrans cannot of dream to war if Yari.ba wants to form a country with Benin Republic. I state unequivocally that northern region and southwestern region of Nigeria will die of hypertension the moment Ndigbo and Biafras actualize independent nation. |
Politics › Re: Ewuare, Oba Of Benin Hails Wike (Video) by Dedetwo(m): 12:10pm On Jul 29, 2020 |
Christistruth00: Lagos Island belongs to the Aromire family till today. Aromire was a son of Olofin an Ile Ife Prince who was the first to settle Lagos with his followers. Aromire was a great lover of Water. He is said to have Swam to Lagos Island on first sighting it. Eko is the way the Yoruba Ijebu pronounced Ereko after Ereko on the Island. Eko (Ereko) means field in Yoruba and Ereko Ile is used to describe an Island.
The Oba of Benin needed a Port to do business with the Portuguese who advised him that Lagos Island was a good location so through an agreement the Awori Aromire family gave him Isale Eko part of the Island just as Sabon Gari is given to outsiders in Kano. The Oba of Lagos is not even the king of Lagos Island he is the King of Isale Eko which was the location of the international Slave Port . The Island belongs to the Aromire Chieftaincy family who are under the jurisdiction of the Olota of Otta in Ogun State who is the paramount traditional ruler of all Aworiland, just as the Alake is the ruler of all Egbaland and the Alaafin the ruler of all Oyos.
The People of the Historically important Yoruba town of Otun Ekiti in Ekiti state migrated from Lagos in the 15th Century and share the same ancestry with the Awori of Lagos the revisionists are not aware of this History and are just making up lies as they go along.
Some people have tried to distort Awori History out of Selfishness. Yari.ba peeps always think that everybody is gullible and tend to throw craps around. If "Eko (Ereko) means field in Yoruba", where other places the Ijebu called Eko beside Lagos? Where there no other fields in Ijebu land? By the story supplied by the certain Yari.ba persons, Ile Ife, the alleged home of Oduduwa and Akanbi never had an Oba until the return of the one of Oduduwa's grand sons. The origination of Ooni supported this plank of the story. It had been stated that neither Oduduwa nor Akanbi was an Oba. |
Politics › Re: . by Dedetwo(m): 11:32am On Jul 29, 2020 |
Sammy07: Yes, I haven't heard about Ikewerre until I navigated to nairaland. Yes, I spent days in port Harcourt.
Lol, will I be asking them are they Igbo or not since they bear Ameachi? Tell me the part of this country where the use of these type of names, Ameachi, Wike, Nkechi, Amara, ifeayin is attributed to?
If you go to warri South (Itshekiri area) as a novice or someone that has never been there before.
You heard names like omobola, Olu, Femi.
In honestly what would be your thoughts? Yari.ba and their backwater mentality or deceit. When cretins from your neck of the wood orchestrated silly idea that name has nothing to do with ethnicity, you played along. Now Chief Eric Moore in Surulere is not English. |
Politics › Re: Lagos-Calabar Or Lagos- Kano Railway Line,which Should Be Executed First. by Dedetwo(m): 11:25am On Jul 29, 2020 |
Do you and friends know the geographical layout of the shithole called Nigeria? You should be talking about Kaduna -Kano line since there is Lagos-Kaduna line already. As for Calabar-Kano line, there is nothing along the line. You should talk about revival of Port Harcourt or even Ibaka through Aba, Umuahia, Enugu, Makurdi to Kaduna Line. |
Celebrities › Re: Princess Shyngle: I'm A Proud Bisexual Girl, I Swing Both Ways by Dedetwo(m): 11:13am On Jul 29, 2020 |
I am okay as long as she allows the girls to mow her lawn and the boys to drill the well. |
Politics › Re: Nigeria Gave Their Country To Buhari, He Killed It -ghana Presidential Candidate by Dedetwo(m): 11:09am On Jul 29, 2020 |
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Politics › Re: Kidnappers Raped Me, Forced My Brother To Have Sex With Me - Lady Narrates (Pix) by Dedetwo(m): 11:02am On Jul 29, 2020 |
oyatz: What you are saying has no bearing with this grave crime committed by the youths of this town near Nsukka against this poor helpless lady and his elder brother.
Both the perpetrators of the crimes and victims of the crimes are Igbos.
This has nothing to do with Nigeria Vs Biafra civil war. Most Nigerians lacked proper articulation. The actualization of Republic of Igbo land will ensure new constitutional laws to handle crimes different from Nigeria due to tribal sentiment. What Nigeria is today remains the manifestation of Nigeria\Biafra war. I know the level of your intellect cannot drive you to this deduction. |
Politics › Re: Lagosians Should Expect ‘O To Ge’ Revolution In 2023 – Bode George by Dedetwo(m): 9:46am On Jul 29, 2020*. Modified: 12:30am On Jul 30, 2020 |
blakkydikky: ....what's this nyamiri is saying now? So you are now comparing Abobaku,a common chief in the place to your hero,Ojukwu and Nnadi Kanu? Your level of stupidity is second to none. I guess your stupidity is beyond local level. Only a fool can defend what he/she knows little or nothing. You must be really an Abobaku. |
Politics › Re: Lagosians Should Expect ‘O To Ge’ Revolution In 2023 – Bode George by Dedetwo(m): 9:42am On Jul 29, 2020 |
blakkydikky: Yes,you got it. You cancelled my qoute exactly how Ojukwu allowed his selfishness cancelled you people's lives during the war. BlackDi.ck, I guess your handle name said all can be make of you. I have lived in Yari.ba land and not surprised the type of name you chose for forum handle. What a dupe. |
Politics › Re: Lagosians Should Expect ‘O To Ge’ Revolution In 2023 – Bode George by Dedetwo(m): 9:37am On Jul 29, 2020 |
bigfish3k: Can u also tell me the part of the constitution that says only yorubas can contest and win free and fair elections in Lagos
Capital of a country in any part of the world is for all citizens of the country not for a particular tribe as you want it to be. Lagos being a former capital having been developed with resources from all other parts of the country belongs to all. You are preaching to the tribal juggernauts. |
Politics › Re: Lagosians Should Expect ‘O To Ge’ Revolution In 2023 – Bode George by Dedetwo(m): 9:33am On Jul 29, 2020 |
blakkydikky: ....nauseated always kill Osu's and Nyamiri's all because non of their coward elders/leaders can fight for them. I do not know whether Abobaku who ran away or Yari.ba who shakes like dried leaf can sustain any form of revolution. Revolution is not matter that can be left in the hands of the loudmouths. |
Politics › Re: Kidnappers Raped Me, Forced My Brother To Have Sex With Me - Lady Narrates (Pix) by Dedetwo(m): 9:24am On Jul 29, 2020 |
Jasseyfrd:
dis stories no balance at all.... You maybe correct however what triggered such narrative remains the subject matter. |
Politics › Re: Kidnappers Raped Me, Forced My Brother To Have Sex With Me - Lady Narrates (Pix) by Dedetwo(m): 9:19am On Jul 29, 2020 |
The zoo called Nigeria has turned everybody into wild animals. The best line of action is disintegration of the shithole called Nigeria so that emerging nation states can employ any drastic measure to remedy the situation at the cradle point. An attempt to stop wild corruptible practices and perfidious behaviors led to the war due to ethnic sentiments. |
Politics › Re: Nairaland Legend Becomrich Is Back by Dedetwo(m): 9:09am On Jul 29, 2020 |
The beachside is not Mr. Electricity. In fact, there is no iota of similarity in their posts. Beachside maybe slightly out of line with the ugly pictures but maintains coherent narratives. |
Politics › Re: . by Dedetwo(m): 7:51am On Jul 29, 2020 |
Sammy07: Pls, mention where I said Ikewerre are Benin.
I'll send you 100k instantly.
"Akwaibom is cross river" I made mention, I'm referring to their culture / language not state. You have not heard about Ikwerre until you navigated to nairaland yet you might have spent days in Igweocha (Port Harcourt). By the way, I am not hungry. |
Politics › Re: . by Dedetwo(m): 7:22am On Jul 29, 2020 |
Sammy07: I thought cross river and Akwaibom Ibom are one. Why the disunity here? You seem to always have skewed stream of thoughts. In one instance, it is Ikwerre are Bini and another instance Akwa Ibom is Cross River. Yet you forgot that Arokee is not a Lagosian. |
Politics › Re: Lagosians Should Expect ‘O To Ge’ Revolution In 2023 – Bode George by Dedetwo(m): 6:51am On Jul 29, 2020 |
blakkydikky: kikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikiki........braveness and Igbo dont mix; Ojukwu and Nnamid Kanu. Ojukwu,the man that ran away with his family and left you people to die like cockcroaches and Kanu that ran away for ordinary python that he couldnt even come to bury his parent:..greatest shame. I have always feel nauseated when I read revolution in the same sentence with the Yari.ba. |
Politics › Re: Lagosians Should Expect ‘O To Ge’ Revolution In 2023 – Bode George by Dedetwo(m): 6:48am On Jul 29, 2020 |
PigTormentor: Stupid elewon. The same man that claims Tinubu is not from Lagos is the same man that presented 5 Igbos for the Lagos state house of assembly in 2015 and 2019. I wonder what part of Lagos those came from. I'm a true child of Lagos and son of Lagos State . I'll stand with Tinubu any day any time before I'll stand with the fools in the PDP including this old convict. Please remove Igbo from this discuss. Bode Thomas referred specifically to Arokee in Lagos. |
Politics › Re: Lagosians Should Expect ‘O To Ge’ Revolution In 2023 – Bode George by Dedetwo(m): 6:34am On Jul 29, 2020 |
35824L: Only Ipobs will take the ex-convict seriously. Yes in, no-man's land, Lagos. |
Politics › Re: Chibuike Amechi Is My Name, I Am Igbo From Ikwere And Ikwere People Are Igbo. by Dedetwo(m): 2:50pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
Christistruth00: We know our History including Yoruba Awori from Ile Ife to Prince Olofins migration and settling in Lagos we can even tell you their towns in Ogun and Lagos and when they were founded tell us Your own History..
Kindly tell us which of Your Towns were founded in the 13th Century what were the names of the founders, their Wives and their Children? Which route did they take during their migration , how long did it take and what were the names of their followers and sister towns that can confirm their History as authentic facts and not fabricated lies what ancient Landmarks do they have as evidence?
The People of Otun Ekiti in Ekiti state migrated from Lagos in the 15th Century and share the same ancestry with the Awori of Lagos are you also aware of this History or are you just making up lies as you go along? The above crap remains a glorified junk without mention of Burkina Faso. |
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Politics › Re: KEN SAROWIWA: A Man Whose Heart Is Filled With Greed And Hatred For Igbo's by Dedetwo(m): 1:09pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
helinues: You guys always claimed everyone hates you..
Who do you people love? I do not give a ratass about your hates and love. I say unequivocally that nothing defines Nigeria to me more than Nigeria\Biafra war. |
Politics › Re: Chibuike Amechi Is My Name, I Am Igbo From Ikwere And Ikwere People Are Igbo. by Dedetwo(m): 1:02pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
Christistruth00: You didn't even know who Awori were till Yoruba told you they were the Yoruba clan that own Lagos since then you have been running from pillar to post unsuccessfully to create division for your own selfishness. You are also trying to do the same with Ikwerre in order to claim Port Harcourt. Yari.ba peeps cannot tell me anything about Eko and Awori when you did not know that Oyo Ile, the seat of the so-called Oyo Empire. was 30 miles north of Ilorin. |
Politics › Re: "Portharcourt Will Eventually Become The Capital Of Biafra"- Nnamdi Kanu by Dedetwo(m): 12:36pm On Jul 28, 2020*. Modified: 12:53pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
24SEVEN: Covetousness is a sin before God and Man. I had repeatedly supported Ikwerre in their goofiness that they are not Igbo but Bini. What are you on about covetousness and Igbo land? I am not for Biafra if it will include non-Igbo hence I opted for Republic of Igbo Land. |
Politics › Re: KEN SAROWIWA: A Man Whose Heart Is Filled With Greed And Hatred For Igbo's by Dedetwo(m): 11:52am On Jul 28, 2020 |
Frankdoz9: HE SABOTAGED OJUKWU AND ROMANCED WITH NIGERIA TILL NIGERIA KILLED HIM AND BATHED HIM ACID IN HIS GRAVE.
ARE YOU ANOTHER KEN SAROWIWA? : When a man’s heart is filled with greed and hatred, he will see his neighbor that should fight for him as his own enemy. The greed and hatred consumed him. After everything against the Igbos, he did not get what he wanted , then he went after his own brothers , “THE OGONI 5”, and was killed likewise by His so called friend he made.
*********************************************** ...............”nothing upset me more than Ojukwu's dishonest formulations and his attempt to kidnap the Ogoni, among others, into his Igbo empire called "biafra." I knew that he pinned his hopes of the economic viability of "biafra" on the oil of the Ogoni and the Ijaw. I rebelled. I became Secretary of a small committee which met nights in Port Harcourt and issued a communique calling on Gowon to create a Rivers State by decree”................
..............”I returned to the war front and struck up friendships with gentlemen like Sani Bello who comes from Kontagora, Akinrinade from Ife, Obasanjo from Abeokuta, Yakumu Danjuma from Takum, Dan Ato, now deceased, from Bida. I had reason to hope that my nightmare as an Ogoni in Nigeria was about to end”.....................Ken Saro Wiwa.
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AWO AND THE CREATION OF STATES By Ken Saro Wiwa (1987)
I am a Khana. The Khana along with their cousins, the Gokana, Tai and Eleme have, since 1947, been grouped as Ogonis, in the Ogoni Division. Today, the Khana and Gokana are in the Bori Local Government Area, the Tai and Eleme are part of something called Otelga, a hybrid Local Government consisting of the Okrika Ijaws, the Ndoki Igbos and the Tai and Eleme. We belong to Rivers State.
The Ogoni number about 500,000, which makes me an extreme minority in a Nigeria of one hundred million people. The first secondary school in Ogoni country was established one hundred years after the first secondary school in Yorubaland, the CMS Grammar School in Lagos (1858). These two facts alone, in the first instance, establish my pitiable plight.
I am unfortunate to be a Nigerian. I would rather not be, but I am doing my level best to be one, and a good one at that. Being a Nigerian means that my brother Nigerian of the Bura ethnic group in Borno State has been told that I am a "Southerner," equal to the Yoruba or Igbos who are numerous, well-educated and are after the jobs which the "northerner" ought to have. I wander, therefore, through the Federal Civil Service and am lost in the competition between "northern" and "Southern" Nigerians, between the Igbo and the Yoruba, between the various clans and religions of the various peoples of Nigeria, between personal ambition and greed. I am lost. I cannot truly answer the name Nigerian. [...]
I was a graduate student when the cataclysmic events of 1966 happened. Apart from my revulsion at the needless murders of the innocent, nothing upset me more than Ojukwu's dishonest formulations and his attempt to kidnap the Ogoni, among others, into his Igbo empire called "biafra." I knew that he pinned his hopes of the economic viability of "biafra" on the oil of the Ogoni and the Ijaw. I rebelled. I became Secretary of a small committee which met nights in Port Harcourt and issued a communique calling on Gowon to create a Rivers State by decree.
When, by sheer quirk of fortune, this happened in 1967, I abandoned family and caution, crossed the fighting lines and found myself in Lagos. There I became a member of something called the Interim Advisory Council of Rivers State and, subsequently, Administrator for Bonny.
I returned to the war front and struck up friendships with gentlemen like Sani Bello who comes from Kontagora, Akinrinade from Ife, Obasanjo from Abeokuta, Yakumu Danjuma from Takum, Dan Ato, now deceased, from Bida. I had reason to hope that my nightmare as an Ogoni in Nigeria was about to end.
With the war ended, and as a Commissioner in Rivers State, I soon found that the Rivers State for which I had fought did not end my nightmare. In the first place, oil money from Ogoni country (as well as Ijaw country) was being carted away to Lagos, leaving the Ogoni illiterate and backward.
This is anti-federalism. Worse still, the Ijaws were taking their frustrations out on the non-Ijaws of the State. For the Ijaws along number more than the eight other ethnic groups in Rivers State put together. Though historically disunited, the Ijaws find unity when it comes to lording it over the non-Ijaws. The Ijaws will want to perpetuate this. Today, there is not even a Commission from my Local Government Area in the Rivers State Cabinet such as it is. My dilemma as an Ogoni is not about to end.
Lost in this dreadful nightmare, I went in 1971 to see Chief Awolowo at the Federal Ministry of Finance. There was nothing I told the sage that he was not aware of. He showed me his writings on the issue and bade me seek the mid-Southern State he had proposed in 1966. Thus was the quest for a Port Harcourt State begun. In 1974. When we started, there was no shortage of opponents. To the Ijaws, I became a traitor. [...] The creation of this State would alleviate my nightmare and show Nigeria how much it has robbed and neglected the Ijaws of the oil-bearing Delta.
So, what do I really want? I want a place where my children can regain the independence which was the Ogoni patrimony before the advent of colonial rule and before Nigeria's independence consigned them to slavery at the hands of their neighbours. I want the option of CHOICE. And I am not begging for it. I DEMAND it. And I also want that option for Hauwa Madugu, the 21-year-old Youth Corper in my office. She is a Jenju from Gongola State. So that we can both be better citizens of Nigeria and end our collective nightmare. From the above is quit obvious not everybody who attended any school is actually educated. Since I read the crap about "I returned to the war front and struck up friendships with gentlemen ….", I have wondered aloud which war front. The jackass could not be in more war fronts than one at the same time. Yakubu Danjuma and Olusegun Obsanajo were not in the same sectors talk less of front. Even Danjuma Ato was air force dude. He wanted a place where his children can regain the independence which was the Ogoni patrimony before the advent of colonial rule yet while he was Commissioner for Education in Rivers State, two of his younger brothers were sent across state line to attend secondary school in East Central School. His younger brothers were my school mates. He equally attend secondary school in one of the best schools in Igbo land on Shell BP scholarship. The dude masterminded the killing of a person who fed him. |
Politics › Re: Chibuike Amechi Is My Name, I Am Igbo From Ikwere And Ikwere People Are Igbo. by Dedetwo(m): 11:01am On Jul 28, 2020 |
oyatz: Afizeres, Anabuta, Angas and Berom are small related tribes in Plateau State and they don't claim each other.
Isoko and Urbobos are indistinguishable in my own views but they always claim to be different tribes.
Efik, Ibibio and Annag look the same to me but one of my former employees from Akwa-Ibom said they are related but there is no universal name that combine them so every tribe decide to be on it's own.
What are the advantages or disadvantages of these? Awori people owned Eko until Yari.ba arrived. In the long run, I bet you Ndigbo will not suffer the consequences of idiocy displayed in southern Nigeria by certain airheads. I never thought that northern and southwestern Nigerian elites will make the Efik peeps in Bakassi cheaply expendable. Bakassi, as much as Nigeria\Biafra war, defines Nigeria for me. |