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Yujin:
Speaking of Umunneoha, is it where the famous Igwekala shrine is located? If it is, is it connected with the popular Amadioha?

You are spot on target.

Igboid:
Isoko were always independent of Urhobo.
Every single colonial document recorded Isoko different from Urhobo. So don't make it look like Isoko pulled out of Urhobo. They were never part of the Urhobo union, even though a few Isoko persons played prominent role in UPU in the past, just as Clark Edwin despite being Ijaw, played a role in UPU of the old because his town Kiagbodo, even though are Ijaw claiming, speak Urhobo as first language because of their early entanglement with Olomo people.

Okpe people have many denials who will tell you openly that they are not Urhobos. The current Okpe traditional leaders might be pro Urhobo because of benefits from UPU, but what do you think would happen if a foreign force invades Urhobo land and retires the current traditional rulers while making the ones denying Urhobo tag the new rulers of Okpe or giving the current rulers ultimatum to either accept being non Urhobo or abdicate their thrones? Thats exactly what happened in Igboids areas of Rivers state.

For example, Eze Ogbuehi Francis Ellah became a pariah in Ogbaland at the hands of FG sponsored Igbo denials there, because he refused to end alliance with Igbo union.

Is the bolded the same person as Senator Francis Ellah? The worst sponsored attrition occurred in Obigbo when Eze Nwogu refused to cede Obigbo to Rivers State.

Allen102:
The ijaws in rivers state belongs in Rivers State and nowhere else.

However anybody who passes as an Ijo in Igweocha (Port Harcourt) is a compound tenant.

Igboid:
Its not same.

Oro, Annang, Obolo, Ibibio, Efik, have always maintained and insisted on independence from each other from colonial days and all colonial documents recorded them as independent groups.
This wasn't same for Ikwerre and co. They were always comfortable in Igbo skin until 1970.

Bro this is the epitome of Nigeria where seemingly intelligent folks allow ethnical bias to becloud their articulation. The Ikwerre peep who after Nigeria\Biafra war spearheaded "Ikwerre are not Igbo", gained admission into the university as Igbo, gained commission into Nigerian army as Igbo, ran for his dear life from Kaduna to Enugu during the pogrom saga in 1966 as Igbo and become a vice principal in a high school as Igbo only turn around claimed Ikwerre are not Igbo when he sneaked back to Port Harcourt in 1968.

Blackking98:
Republic of Igbo land or biafra, you still catch the cruise of what I'm saying.
My question is, you dream of a republic of all igbos irrespective of the geopolitical zone they're found in but whenever an ijaw or ibibio or ogoni man talks about Niger Delta republic you seem uneasy and start pointing out phantom reasons why it shouldn't hold. Just tell me why you behave like that.

It is unfortunate most Nigerians seem to think for another Nigerian. I do not give a ratass about your silly geopolitical zone in Nigeria. And definitely do not give a slightest hoot if Niger Delta becomes a superpower. All I care is for an unconditional actualization of Republic of Igbo land.

Etinosa1234:
I've seen igbanke people that deny being Igbo even when dere name clearly state Igbo

Even Eshan people deny being Bini or Edo when their names state otherwise. I guess the shithole called Nigeria is filled with denial artists.

Blackking98:
Like who?
Why are you so dreamful of Biafra yet you get really uneasy when Niger Delta is mentioned? So me as an ibibio boy has nothing to do with the ocean or rivers? Or the ijaws? Or the ogonis? Or the urhobo?

You seemed not be correct for once. You could have scored direct hit if you referenced Republic of Igbo land. I am sold on the Republic of Igbo land which could make certain entities in southern Nigeria very expendable.

Blackking98:
Well we Niger Deltans would prefer aniomas and ikwerre join igbos in biafra republic than joining us in niger Delta

I know it will not take long time for your true color to show up on this discuss. Only a fool will think the term Niger Delta is an exclusive domain of certain ethnicities in the shithole called Nigeria. Even certain goons who claim Niger Delta have little or nothing in relationship with the river.

Blackking98:
Exactly, you don't see we ibibios forcing efiks in Cross river or Annang or Oro or eket even though we're atleast 80% the same. Everyone should be free to choose his path

Has there being any time in the silly history of Nigeria when Efik, Annang, or Oro passed as Ibibio? The problem with Nigerians is the high tendency to give wrong analogy due to pressure from ethnic bias.

Blackking98:
Seconded
I school in unical.
In my department we have aniomas and Rivers igbos. The aniomas when Asked if they're Igbo will tell u yes they're Delta Igbo. But the ikwerres and others can behead you for calling them igbos. My departmental experience tho

You cannot expect a group of people who have changed their names from Umu to Rumu or Oma to easily accept to be Igbo. There was a post by selemempe on the eastern regional parliamentary secretaries in 1961. I saw one entry: J. O. Umolu [Igbo: Ikwerre]. In today's Ikwerre, the entry would have beeen J. O. Rumuolu or J. O. Omaolu. What a shame.

Oghene1st:

Don't be a fool. There are three senatorial districts n Delta. Delta Central is purely for Urhobos, Delta North for the Igbo groups and Delta South for Ijaw (majority), Isoko, Itsekiri and Urhobo.

The Deputy Senate President is from Delta Central.

The population of Urhobos in Delta Central alone is 1.5m+ which is higher than the whole of Igbo groups in Delta North. If we are to include the Urhobos in Delta South, then .....

More reason other tribes don't want you close. You people have this inbuilt domineering spirit where it is not needed.

It just plain idiocy for people to use territorial delimitation for governmental purposes as a dictate of ethnicity.

mrvitalis:
I'm Igbo , I'm from imo ...etche is just close to ngo okpala were I have my farm ....i can over look ikwerri
But ndoni , etche , oyigbo ? These are all pure Igbo na

Amadioha shrine is in etche ...for heaven's sake

At Ozuzu yet people from Ozuzu , Etche pay annual homage to Umuneoha in Mbaitolu, LGA as their ancestral home and the place where the deity originated.

oyatz:
Is this paper which could have been written by anybody superior to the Ogbakor Ikwerre declaration of 1963 which defined their ethnic group?

I hope you know that Ikwerres were part of the Calabar-Ogoja-Rivers (COR) Movement of the 1950s agitating for the creation of a separate Region for the Minorities in the defunct Eastern Region?

They also presented Memos to the Willinks Commission of 1959 to look into the fears of the fears of Minorities.

As far as I am concerned, Ikwerre are Bini period. Even though one of my aunt was married to Ikwerre dude who passed as Igbo before Nigeria\Biafra war. In addition, delimitation of territories for governmental purposes does not confirm ethnicity.

sanctity454:
Update on the medical school at okigwe

A factory would have been better than the school.

OfoIgbo:
The bolded is further proof that you are still Yoruba instead of a southern minority.

Ikwerres and Etches claim that their ancestor was a man named AKALAKA, who came from Benin.
Akalaka is not a Bini word. The name is an Igbo word which means DESTINY.

Eventually NRI people will help decipher the extent of ana Igbo

According to the oral history, you need to remember the famous Akalaka or Akaraka had a brother whose name was Ochichi or Ochichiri. Both words were\are not intelligible in Bini or Edo.

Tranquill:
So why do you think they were not carved into Imo and Abia? During the regional government when the Igbos were at the helm of affairs, did they see and treat these people as Igbos? Do your research and find out the atrocities these people suffered in their hands. Till now do they really see you as Igbo if not for their political convenience because they feel it's what gives them the right to say that they must include the South South in their Biafra instead of the true Biafra of the 5 Eastern States.

I would suggest that you make effort to convince the rest of your family members to accept being Igbo first before addressing other ethnic groups just based on your experience at Yaba polytechnic.

You are not only a dumb liar but completely ill-educated. Igbo did not dominate eastern region and I had wished they did. If the Ndigbo had dominated everything in the defunct eastern region, the arrant nonsense heard everywhere would not have been possible. The minorities in western region and northern region were forced to speak either Yoruba or Hausa language respectively to survive.

Zooposki:
Delta state was not even part of the East. They were part of the West. Yet you guys want to annex part of Delta state? How does that even work?

Do you know one of the cardinal reasons to create midwestern region out of western region? Be mindful that land delimitation for governmental purposes does not confer ethnicity on individuals.

kollinzgee:
Mister man don't provoke me
I am a 27 year old man I know what is right and what is wrong I am not daft I am the only one in my family who has this ideology I have argued it with my late dad before.
The British colonised us for over 400 years they taught us their language, religion and culture how come we still retained our mother tongue and culture till this day Do you know they are yorubas in Brazil? Do you know they are Igbos in Jamaica? Despite the fact that their ancestor were taking there as slaves they still know there origin till this day. Think! think! think! Dont allow hate cloud your judgement it will destroy you eventually.
Our forefathers never documented any historical records for us to read and know where we came from unlike the Europeans all we have to do now is just to use our scientific knowledge and common sense to determine where we came from.

As for the elders, elders can be misleading old age doesn't equate wisdom and understanding.most elders don't even know our history as much as I do most elders don't even know our ancstors had tribal marks like yorubas until I told them.

You are true son of the soil.

MinorityOpinion:
Let me break it down for you, I like your approach OP, no insult, no abuse, it is quite strange to me but you have done well in that part.

Igbos only influenced the riverine tribes, they are not the same with igbos, Igbos are travellers so their culture and language must have dominated the small tribes of the riverine area they migrated to. I have a documented article by a British man that visited the area in 1800. Another thing is that dressing like igbos and speaking igbos doesn't mean they are igbos, for example look at Yoruba cousin, the Igala, they belong to Yoruboid group, they wear clothes that look like Yoruba dress, our language is quite similar to theirs, so can you tell me, are igalas in Anambra Yoruba?

I understand some of your point, your family may be one of earlier igbos immigrant and you said, your elders have said they are not Igbos you can't know more than your elders.

Thanks

Arrant nonsense!!! The most of the progenitors of the todays' so-called Ijo were Igbo. Some of the forbearers wore names only intelligible to Igbo person. Names such as Utazi, Otaji, Ediabali. Azumini. Ikiri, Ndoli, Opuamakuba etc. However some took names from Indians and Filipinos who were ship hands or mates on the British ships. Equally the names of ship Captains on British ships were embraced as "nicknames". Besides Ijo, there is no other ethnic group in eastern region as close to Igbo as the Annang, Ibibio and Ogoni. Why did influence of the Igbo fail to change the names and languages of these groups?

kollinzgee:
Bro don't take it personal I am not one of them when an etchie man leaves porthacourt he will know he is an Igbo man all my Yoruba friends here call me Igbo boy I have no choice.

The only Nigeria\Biafra war induced denial of Igbo among Etche people comes from a delusional circle. The circle of so-called royal fathers who go by Ezeship yet want crude oil contracts and largesse from federal government. Other this class of goons, ordinary Etche person regards him\herself as Igbo. The denial of Igbo since after Nigeria\Biafra war is more pronounced among the so-called Ikwerre than any other subgroup of Igbo

marriagebyigbo:
Aniomas are not igbos

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marriagebyIjebu:

If you continue to chase Igbo affairs with an intense zeal, you could walk naked into the street.

plaindealer:
In fact, was Akpabio the governor or senator from Bayelsa? No

Was he even the NDDC boss when the bridge was built? No

So, what's the bridge in Bayelsa built by Shell a long time ago got to do with Akpabio.?

If I ruled the world, I'll send yahoo yahoo fake news news people to life imprisonment.

Bro do not pay mind to the deceit makers. Yari.ba and their team of saboteurs are upset that a person from ethnic group which supported Biafra now heads the ministry of Niger Delta.

Beremx:
Who Igbo presidency wan help?

Igbos are doing great and they will do greater without an Igbo President

Igbo Amaka!!

Why would a real son or daughter of Igbo get entangle with dirty presidency of Nigeria?

Restructure of Nigeria is for the funny goons. Those with few brain cells above their shoulders demand total and unconditional disintegration. There must be a Republic of Igbo land, period.

OLULAW:
This is 21st century. Can you present metaphysical claims in court as evidence? No world power relies on this sort of nonsense but upon verifiable know how when tackling modern challenges. You see why Africa isn’t progressing?

Yes, there is one on Nairaland forum.

desiredhome:
So how do you explain the gloss display of stupidity/wickedness of the black man?

The black man mentality.......

Sir, I can only begin to agree with you if you deduce that inherent stupidity of an African is directly connected with being called "Black".

MetaPhysical:
Thank you jare.
I corrected it. Imo is now in the eligible list, Abia is not.

Are you aware my gehfren is from Imo?

Cc
Christina

Nothing but dream comes to a sleeper. If at all this crap is remotely true, she must be an absolute reject.

HedwigesMaduro:
So why are you shocked? You still have some fancy ideas that those laws made in Nigeria apply to everyone? The old stiff could have gone to the airport and asked to fly a plane with f**k-all pilot training and he would have been allowed to fly passengers if he wished.

From your infinite wisdom, do you not think this silly law is very discriminatory? In advanced countries not backwater such as Nigeria, senior citizens enjoy an independent lifestyle which includes driving a vehicle. Do not shout the silly "Black Lives Matter" when you cannot think to commit a suicide.

desiredhome:
The black man is cursed...…

One of the reasons is the stream of thought displayed in the above post. No human being is "BLACK".

Area4Area:
You think it ends with your rantings on nairaland, you're from Imo and living in Uyo, NDDC covers Imo as well.
Why are you not you not yet on the street protesting.
This is what you get when jobless yoots come into contact with nairaland.

I like Yari.ba peeps. They tend to remember Igbo when the vehicle develops flat tire.

The most disgusting aspect of the saga is the lip service tendered to the idiotic "Black Lives Matter".