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basilico:
When I'm Interested in a subject I delve deep into it's heart.

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Therefore I can assume you have read the Quran and the Hadiths?

TenQ:
Such doesn't exist as what has no identity nor can relate with his creation cannot be God.

Such as you described is just an Idea!

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Any clear and rational understanding of the concept of God must conclude that being transcendent, IT is beyond the grasp of humanity. It is incomprehensible and ineffable.

Since you only reckon with scripture, let me use scripture to land the point:

1 Timothy 6:16: "Who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen."

Isaiah 55:8–9: "'For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,' declares the Lord. 'As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.'"

Romans 11:33–34: "Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out! 'Who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has been his counselor?'"

Job 11:7: "Can you fathom the mysteries of God? Can you probe the limits of the Almighty?"

Psalm 145:3: "Great is the Lord and most worthy of praise; his greatness no one can fathom."

I can tell you about my God based on what He has revealed about Himself

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The so called revelations are just the writings of men which include their fantasies, lies and imaginations.

[i]1. My God is ONE Being

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I agree.

2. He is the Uncaused First-Cause of Everything

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I agree.

3. My God is the Omnipresent Invisible Holy Spirit. The whole Universe physical and spiritual are inside Him.

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This is a pantheistic view.

4. Because my God is a Trinity, He makes Himself visible in the Spiritual Universe as the Father .
5. Because the Physical Universe is a Subset of the Spiritual Universe, My God makes Himself Visible in the Physical and Spiritual Realms as the Word
6. At a point in time, the Word became Incarnate as Human known in the Earth as Jesus Christ.

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I thought you said your God is one. How come he is also three.

7. My God created Humans as a special kind of beings with freewill that would by their CHOICE be the expressions of His image (Sons) through their Love, Loyalty and Submission to Him.

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Scripture does not teach freewill. Or rather, it teaches predestination.

Ephesians 1:4–5

"For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will."

Ephesians 1:11

"In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will."

2 Timothy 1:9

"He has saved us and called us to a holy life—not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time."

Romans 8:29–30

"For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son... And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified."

Is your God a Being or an Idea?

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I dont know. No one can know what God is beyond acceding that there is a source or root of all things and that is God.

Does your God interact with humans?

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I am not sure. I know that humans interact with the spiritual and many people might call that interacting with God, but I am not sure that it is. It might be, it might not be.

What is his objective for creating humans?

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I cant tell, but my best guess is that it is self expression and to experience ITSELF.

Is your God of Justice?

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I dont know and if at all God is just, we will not be able to see the big picture that IT sees to understand its justice.
What i feel sure of is that the man made God described in scripture is manifestly unjust.

I wish you answer each ot these questions!

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Done!

raumdeuter:
Why will my child learn from trump when I am his father, If your child skips to learn from his father and goes to an outsider, then the father needs to look at himself

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The thought that the minds of some children are being shaped by some of you is a painful thought.

IjeBos:
I honestly hope Raumdeuter behaves this way because he's seeking attention.
Unfortunately, that's the best case scenario for a grown man going online daily to repeatedly spew nonsense that is so easily fact checked.

He will spend the next 5 hours arguing that Trump does not insult random people online while feigning indignation that people are calling MAGA idiots and uneducated for voting for a Mentally unstable person who probably has dementia who spends his days insulting random people online.

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You know, one thinks that one has become immune to certain levels of nonsensical stupidity but these guys keep upping the ante and taking it to ever new dizzying heights.

How can anyone say with a straight face that Trump only insults people he knows and those who insult him first?

In this same world?

Na wah.

GloriousGbola:
Shithole country in the chat.

I am sure Trump was just trash talking when he shared the ape video of the Obamas

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They have already argued on this thread that there was nothing racist about the video depicting the Obamas as apes.
Black men dey talk so oh.

basilico:
The Cordoba mosque was a Church. Muslim when they conquer territory usually build a mosque on the holiest place of those conquered then claim it's theirs by divine authority.
Temple Mount in Jerusalem. Muslims found a desolate temple then built Al Aqsa and the Dome of Rocks on it. They claim that's where their prophet ascended to heaven from. It's not in the Quran so it should not be believed 100% . Why you think the Jews call their rocket air defence Iron Dome. Partly to mock them Muslims.....
In India they converted golden temples to their mosques, many of them .
Haggia Sophia in Turkey..Former church, they converted into a mosque,Attaturk Kemal converted it into a museum mid 1900s a ,Erdogan wants back it to a Mosque.
Muslims do this to show complete dominance and humiliation to the defeated subjects. The whole Islamic Creed rests on subjugation and complete humiliation of defeated subjects. For instance in a Israel , a Jew was obligated to open his mouth for a Muslim to spit in...Pact of Umar you can look it up.


Muslims destroyed the library of Alexandria and burnt every document they could find.

I have a lot more on this golden age but not for now.
Bucket list is growing ......

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This is weak and the golden age of Islam is not about converted churches or temples.

TenQ:
There are many "Gods"
Your God doesn't have a name?

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God is ineffable. IT can no more be named than it can be seen or comprehended.

basilico:
I would say Trump is better than Biden who jailed every Republican he could get.

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Listening to you guys is surreal. You live in an alternate reality.

raumdeuter:
Most people Trump insults are people who insulted or attacked him first then he counter punches back

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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
You need medical attention!

You are living in an alternate reality!

bayelsaowei:
I know you.. you are a black Nigerian, who supports and worships a vile white man.

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He is a vermiculus.

raumdeuter:
Trump knows personally all those he insulted and has related with them in one form or the other.

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Trump personally knows all the people he has insulted?
You are an award winning comedian.

raumdeuter:
That just shows you are a child who is not grown. If you child decide to start insulting someone who he has never met before who doesnt support his/her opinion, people will start wondering where he got that behavior from

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Surely, again, on this basis, you will agree that Trump is a child. By your own criterion again.

raumdeuter:
There is a difference between those you know and those you do not know. Its pure gutter behavior to insult people you dont know and just see on the internet.

Those type of behavior are for people with dady issues

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You are making excuses. Its not as if Trump doesn't insult anyone and everyone anyway, including whole countries he has never been to, and cannot even locate on a map.

raumdeuter:
Trump knew these people personally, That is a difference from saying you want to insult people you never met. That is a sign of insanity

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You are looking for wriggle room. The basis of his comments is a difference in opinion just as the basis of comments here are a difference of opinion.

TenQ:
Since you cannot answer my questions,
A fool says in his heart that all existence came from NOTHING!

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You are the one who could not address my posers which were too much for you. Thats why you threw a fit.
And no, I dont believe that all existence came from nothing. I believe in an uncaused cause which I still call God.

TV01:
Abi .

It's so easy to see - even with the most cursory of glances. A web of false claims, bogus assertions, deception, obfuscation, propaganda and downright lies.

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Again, this is ahistorical and illiterate. You can read up even in the best Encyclopedias -

https://www.britannica.com/video/achievements-world-mosque-Islamic-Cordoba-Spain-construction/-194004

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/300077166_The_Islamic_Golden_Age_A_Story_of_the_Triumph_of_the_Islamic_Civilization

Its not a matter of your irrelevant opinion. Its a matter of historical record.

You can just as well declare that by your opinion, there were no middle ages and no renaissance.

cc: basilico.

ee.slam praches charity - did you know that the zakat must only be given to moose.slims.
ee.slam preaches peace - only when everyone is a moose.slim, otherwise it's ongoing gee.hard
ee.slam preaches it is blasphemy to insult its profit, deserving of death - but wait, not to acknowledge him as a profit is considered an insult
ee.slam preaches innocents (children, women, non-combatants) should be spared during war) - but, only muslims are considered "innocent"

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Generally agreed. Some specifics contestable though (in red).

One good thing, just one, that was new and as a result of ee.slam, or that we wouldn't have if not for ee.slam.

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The development of mankind is not tied to religions in this way. Nonetheless, if you are consistent, please produce one good thing in same terms which was new and solely as a result of Christianity.

Regressive. Backward, destructive.

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Christianity was all these things for a long time. Its not that long ago that the Church supervised the witch burnings of hundreds of thousands of women, and hung or persecuted scientists such as Giordano Bruno and Galileo.

raumdeuter:
Over half of American voters voted for him. If you think insulting people who don't support your opinion is the way to go then you are obviously insane like the rest of the left

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And surely that makes the writer of the below what? Insane, by your criterion, yes?

TV01:
Are you able to be more explicit here? "Every way" is a very bold claim. Are you saying that the Republicans actually take action\write policy solely to harm "colored people", or exists solely for that reason?

I'm actually interested to understand how it is even possible to be so precise - a practice\policy\action that hurts ""colored people" but leaves "non-colored people" unharmed?

Conversely, does the opposite hold true for the Democratic party?

Please shed more light.


TV

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I require you to swear a mighty oath first that you will henceforth be more rational and scholarly.

gidgiddy:
People just dont understand that "Eze Ndigbo" is just a cultural title. There is nothing political about it. Although Eze Ndigbo translates as King of Igbos, the holder is no King, and is just a cultural leader of an Igbo community in diaspora

Enemies of the Igbo nation have turned what is purely a cultural thing, to mean a political thing, and in the process, caused unnecessary problems

Its terrible

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Somebody was once killed for being called King of the Jews in an area subject to a foreign emperor.
Wisdom is profitable to direct.

You dont expect foreigners to understand every nuance of your culture.

TenQ:
Will you answer my direct questions and stop playing the clown!?

Lets assume you dont eat beef (which is most likely a lie).
Lets see how dirty you are:
Do you clean your toilet?
Do you wash and disinfect your toilet?

Let's see how truthful a godless person like you can be!

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You are not serious.
Enjoy.

NewHe:
Who's Nnamdi Kanu, please how old is he?

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Daniel, not Nnamdi.

TenQ:
Are you barbaric for eating beef of all types

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1. Who told you I eat beef?

2. Your bible authorises the eating of beef.

3. Even among animals the killing of their own kind is rare.

4. Even among animals the killing of children by parents is an abnormality.

5. Among all creatures there exists a natural instinct of parents to protect their offspring. Why would a loving God give barbaric and evil instructions against that natural instinct.

You know in your heart it is devilish but a lifetime of indoctrination will not allow you to admit it.

I will only leave you with this question, to which I don't expect an honest answer.

Would you kill your child if so commanded?

TenQ:
Answer my questions or admit that you are dumb and ignorant at the same time.

I will like to know
1. What does Sacrifice mean in Islam?
2. Who do you sacrifice to?
3. What is the sacrifice for?
4. Why do you sacrifice Life in Islam?
Four questions: What, Who, Purpose, Why

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I am not Muslim.

What is death to you?

To my God, Death is homecoming back to the Source of Life.
If the owner of life recalls you back to Himself, is it barbaric?

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Natural death is what you can justify in this manner, not one human being asked to kill another. Its even contradictory for God has a command against this, does he not? But aside from this, is it not innately evil to ask a parent to do that to his child?

You know the answer but your bias will not let you admit it.
It is beyond barbaric and shame on anyone who worships a God that asks them to kill their children.

Do you think you are also barbaric because you have in your life killed millions?

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When did I kill millions?

daddio:
But the evils in the Kuran and hadiths are not barbaric, pagan and demonic requests.

Thank you.

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They are.

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BlackfireX:
Please focus

What are you trying to say?

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That such teachings are barbaric.

FxMasterz

This verse shows that you are wrong on the second death being what was referred to in the Garden of Eden.

Romans 5:12: "Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—"

tctrills:
No man will be punished for the sins of Adam. We will be judged and punished for our sins.
Where is it written that we will be punished for Adam's sins.
I must add that Jesus Christ died and rose to ensure that no one suffers for Adam's actions

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You are contradicting yourself. If Adams sin was not inherited then Jesus would not have to die. Christian doctrine is that Adamic sin was inherited.

Besides, it is clear that sin was inherited -

​Romans 5:12: "Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—"

​Romans 5:18–19: "Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous."
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​1 Corinthians 15:21-22: "For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive."

​Psalm 51:5: "Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me."

Finally the Bible contradicts itself by teaching that God avenges the sin of the father unto his descendants.

(Exodus 34:6–7)

​"The Lord, the Lord, the compassionate and gracious God... maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation."

TenQ:
What is death to you?

To my God, Death is homecoming back to the Source of Life.
If the owner of life recalls you back to Himself, is it barbaric?

Do you think you are also barbaric because you have in your life killed millions?

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So you think it's alright to ask a parent to kill his child?

BlackfireX:
Think on this ....picture this in your mind


1.A child of 6 years married to a 52 years old man,at 9 years old this old grand pa f****k her silly
Does that child has a right from the start

2. You went to your own son house by commission or omission you saw your daughter in law nak****dress... you collected your son's wife and disowned your Son

3.You invaded a community that did not attack you ...and kill all the adults they young girls that are pre pubescent 3 years to 14 years ...you raped them and marry them


4.You can marry a pre pubescent girl and divorce her.



Let me stop here

I dare any top Muslim debaters to ask me for the evidence in the Quran and hadiths.... I dare you

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All of these are confirmed Islamic facts and teaching.

daddio:
He used that to test Abraham's faith after which he provided a ram for him for the sacrifice.
Did Rasol missed that part while copying bible's contents?.

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That is recorded in the Bible and it still remains a barbaric, pagan and demonic request.

tctrills:
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We agree that a Child shall not bear the Sins of his father the bible taught that clearly but are you also saying that the bible taught that it is wrong for God to bear the sins of the world?
Maybe I am not understanding you. As Christians we know that we will be punished for our sins unless we repent. Please explain yourself clearly.

Again, do not conflict the teachings oc different churches with the bible truths. Let's look to the bible not the churches for answers

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I am asking about original sin, Adamic sin. Why is it inherited.