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GracieX3:
See the person calling someone ignorant.

Religious books are not history books.

The fact remains that the Jews that came to Palestine in 1948 were not linked to that area for over a 1000 years. In fact, some Palestine people have more semitic heritage than most Jews in Israel today

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Well said. The truth is that the generality of the "returnee" so called European Jews cannot be shown to be the Israelites of old. It is not surprising that most of them are noticeably white. The Israelites of old were not white.

raumdeuter:
Israel was minding its business when Palestinan thugs Hamas went to kill them on October . . .

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It is not minding your business to expand illegally into the West Bank, practice apartheid there against the Palestinians and cage the people of Gaza in an open air prison.

raumdeuter:
Let test something out

What was Obama worth before getting into politics, what was his worth after politics, How many percentage increase did he have

Then do the same for Trump

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I struggle to see the point in this experiment.

By the way, I have a lot of serious criticisms of Obama which shows me to be balanced. Do you have a single serious criticism of Trump-Christ?

basilico:
Okay..I asked google Gemini
Mandate Palestine includes the whole of Jordan today.

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Focus on the principles I laid out.
Start with this -

You would not dream of saying that White Americans are not indigenes of America today and yet they have lived there for only about half the time Arabs have lived in Palestine.

benalvino3:
Oga, stop lying with what you don't know.

1947 UN Partition Plan context:
Jews approx 33% of the population in Mandatory Palestine

1949–1950 after war + displacement:
Jews aprox 80–85% within the new State of Israel’s borders

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My figures came from the Jewish Virtual Library, go and quarrel with it.

benalvino3:
Notice how he started calling budaatum names, someone who is always on his side just because they disagree on one topic. But just as budaatum told me, he deserved it too.

Deepsight will cry about slurs and racism, but he's quick to throw those racist tropes at people who disagree with him.

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What name did I call him?
I said he was being silly.

And he was.
Secondly, you now make it obvious that you have a school playground gang mentality when you talk about sides. '

I have no side.

basilico:
A pack of lies dressed as the truth.ill respond better in a few days .
The growth of the Jewish population is also because Jews in Arab neighbors were all expelled leaving their wealth and homes behind.
I don't know where your 156000 figure came from it appears in image below

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My figures came from the Jewish Virtual Library, go and quarrel with it.

benalvino3:
When you say things like this, we know you have nothing. Stop pretending.

raumdeuter:
Or at best, they come with emotional rambling never logical.

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Its not hard pointing to Trump's corruption. For a convicted felon, there is judicial evidence anyway and aside from this the man has literarily confessed to various acts of abuse of office for personal gain since he assumed office. That's why his wealth has vastly increased since he resumed again. Its just that the Trump phenomenon is so remarkable that he is strangely able to get away with murder in broad day light.

But why would I waste energy on the subject with people who would proclaim him innocent regardless of what he does. Those are the people that are really emotional and at least one of them never went to school - a ram.

TV01 -

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Me8q4fGLM7w

Absorb this please. I trust I dont need to explain why I am sending you this link. Its just a few seconds.

basilico:
1. Israel sends a warning via text messages, via, leaflets calls and on radio. Most Israelis are fluent Arabic speakers. That is a fact. In cases where residents refuse to evacuate they drop a bomb without any explosives , giving them time to evacuate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmPEcYr4pRM?si=3T-KxycSqHdYgGu0

2. 19000 childrenay have died with their fathers . These are figures by Hamas. When they were asked to give the names of women who had died ,IDF tracked the cellphones and found many dead were alive and using their phones. IDF estimates a 1:1 kill ratio of terrorists vs civilians . Many dead terrorists have been misrepresented as children.
Three days ago
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/analysts-say-gaza-civilian-deaths-include-hamas-other-terror-members-working-as-medics-media-workers/ar-AA1ZabxC

3. The Arabs were given land separate from Jews who had lived there for thousands of years continuously
Summary of this book in image below.

THE TRUTH.
This book, written in Latin in 1695, describes the region called Palestine at that time.
Author Adriani Relandi was a geographer, cartographer, traveler, philologist.
He understood many languages, including Arabic, Ancient Greek and Hebrew.
He described nearly 2,500 settlements mentioned in the Bible, and made an approximate census according to settlements.

HIS NOTES;

1. Palestine is mostly empty, abandoned, sparsely populated. The main population is concentrated in Jerusalem, Akko, Tsfat, Jaffa, Tveria and Gaza.

2. The majority of the population is Jewish; almost everyone else is Christian. A very small part is Muslim, mostly Bedouin...
(Relandi refers to Muslims as nomadic Bedouins who come to cities only as seasonal workers in agriculture or construction.)

3. The only exception is Nablus, inhabited by about 120 members of the Muslim Natsha family and approximately 70 Samaritans.

4. About 5,000 people live in Jerusalem; almost all Jews, and a few Christians.

5. The names of most of the settlements are of Jewish origin, and some have Greek or Roman Latin names. Apart from the city of Ramla, there is no Arab settlement whose original name is Arabic.
Place names derived from Jewish, Greek or Latin are usually adapted into Arabic and meaningless...

6. Approximately 550 people live in Gaza, half of whom are Jews and half are Christians.

Jews were successful in agriculture, especially vineyards, olives and wheat, while Christians were engaged in trade and transportation..."

( Peter Baum & John Abeles)

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GracieX3 is right. It is absurd to deny a people who have lived somewhere for over a thousand years indigene-ship of that place. And this is regardless of if others have lived there before as well. You would not dream of saying that White Americans are not indigenes of America today and yet they have lived there for only about half the time Arabs have lived in Palestine.

Let us take a walk down the demographics of the area through history to understand the issues better.

The history of the matter is that roughly two thousand years ago, the Romans destroyed Jerusalem and scattered the Jews into diaspora. They went into Persia but mostly into Europe where they suffered much persecution through the middle ages, the renaissance, the enlightenment and all the way through to the 20th century where they suffered the holocaust.

In the intervening time, Islam had arisen in the 7th Century AD, and by the turn of the millennium the crusades had begun in which troupe after troupe of Christian armies generation after generation sought to displace the Muslims from the "Holy Land." This went back and forth over a couple of centuries and the land would alternate between Islamic and Christian authority - all the time retaining a small Jewish population. The long and short of it is that the presence of Arabs in that land dates back at least one thousand years now.

Now, moving on, by the time the second world war ended, I hope you know that the British had made promises to the Jews via Zionists that they would create a homeland for them in Palestine. At that time, the place was mostly occupied by Arabs like I said, for about a thousand years already. It is unreasonable to claim that it was not home to them. Besides, the European Jews who were returning had been so adulterated that one cannot really claim that they are necessarily of the same ancestry as the Israelites of old. Frankly, most of them today are noticeably white.

At the end of the 19th century, the Jewish population in Palestine constituted a small minority, making up about 5-7% of the total population. The majority of the population was Muslim (around 80%) and Christian (around 10%)."

Please look at the table of demographics in the link below which sets out the percentage of population of each group (Muslim, Christian and Jewish) at various points in history.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-and-non-jewish-population-of-israel-palestine-1517-present

You will note that -

1. From 1517 to 1882 through the rule of the Ottoman empire, the Jewish population varied from 1.7% to 8%. Thus it is clear that the Jews were a distinct minority throughout that period.

2. By the end of the 1st World War, they had become 9.1%.

3. Throughout the period of the British Mandate they grew from 11 percent in 1922 to 32% in 1937. This was the period of the first wave of significant Zionist migration from Europe, and so it is obvious that the majority of Jews in the land were now migrants from Europe.

But hang on, the evidence gets worse -

4. Between 1947 and 1948 - a period of one year only - the year of the creation of the State of Israel, the percentage of Jews jumped from 32% to a staggering 82% - in ONE year only!

This shows conclusively two things -

a. That the migration from Europe formed almost all of the population of Jews by that time as compared to the negligible percent prior to the British Mandate

b.In the same period of ONE year the poulation of non-Jews fell from 1.3 million people to 156, 000 people!

The foregoing discloses conclusively what had transpired. A mass migration of Europeans had flooded the land and there was a mass evacuation/ removal of non-Jews.

Please note that these figures are from the Jewish Virtual Library, lest you claim they are biased.

basilico:
Because there is none proven. Allegations are just that.
Backtrack if you have time, I have never supported any form of corruption of any form by anyone.

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No, my reasons for not bothering is because I believe it will be a waste of my time because of your overwhelming bias: I believe that even if I present you with the most iron clad evidence, you would still deny it. Its thus pointless. If it was a balanced person, I would proceed.

basilico:
List down 5 corruption scandals he been accused of.

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No thanks.

basilico:
Trump assigned JD Vance the responsibility of chairing a task force to fight federal corruption.
A new DOJ AAG Colin McDonald was sworn in after approval from the Senate. He will report not to Pam Bondi but to Trump and Vance.

The task force is already working. 70 Hospices shut down in California

https://redstate.com/ben-smith/2026/03/25/vance-freezes-70-la-providers-as-federal-crackdown-hits-california-hospice-fraud-system-n2200639


Gavin Newsom like Tim Walz knew about the fraud.

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Talking about Trump fighting corruption is like saying a mosquito is fighting malaria.

TRUMP IS THE MOST CORRUPT PRESIDENT IN US HISTORY.

Is that an AI picture in the OP

God1000:
Lol, coming from war criminals themselves


The same country that has no respect and regard for the united nations and other global organizations

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It cracked me up cos these people have zero respect for the UN.

benalvino3:
You are known for posting hopeless nonsense.
Iran is dying fast, US and Israel remains the giant they are

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You are known for the bold.

callmeDDD:
look straight into her eyes.

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Ol boy na you be real trouble maker

LordReed:
If he had any objections, he should have raised it when you asked for her account details.

But since you are feeling uneasy take it as a sign to steer clear of that babe.

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Good advice, but you see the bold, the truth is that many people put on the spot with such a request to "appreciate" their wife or babe for a favor done would not want to object as it could seem petty, awkward and needlessly insecure. Thus they may not say anything even if they dont like it.

Image123:
FG cannot and should not bring down anything. BTW, the speaker in the OP is saying a truck of rubbish only fit for media pages.
Who stops Ahmad from increasing the cost of goods or Mummy Deborah from increasing the cost of goods? Mr President doesn't believe in the headache of price regulation because Nigerians are ready to buy, this is basic demand law. If you don't demand, price will drop. But we will eternally demand, it's even a flex. It's a multihydra headed problem that's more than what FG alone can do in a quick fix.
The law of demand states that, ceteris paribus (all else being equal), as the price of a good or service increases, the quantity demanded by consumers decreases. This DOES NOT work with Nigerians. Even when people go for a 'cheaper' alternative, that alternative price increases to same level as the former, and it rarely comes down in Nigeria.

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Reading from you always makes one very sad about the mindset of Nigerians.
Always determined to encourage misery and defend poor governance.

jesustheissue:
It amazes me the amount of disdain and obvious hatred some people have for Israel. It's borne out of ignorance or deliberate hardness of heart neither of which is beneficial. God, the Almighty God, the Creator of the heavens and the earth says He has made them His chosen people and that through them the whole world would be blessed. He has gone ahead over several centuries and up to the present day to prove His word and yet people keep railing and quarreling with what they cannot change. If God blesses, who can turn such blessings to curses, who!

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Talk of any chosen people is racism.

Chibuezem:
antisemitism is horrible man
Stop this speculation

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Sadly, Israel, a nation who should know how evil genocide is, and how terrible persecution is, is not endearing itself to the world with it's actions.

PigTormentor:
They will eventually Claim that Kenya was promised to them by God 5000 years ago.

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But of course and they will back it up with -

Isaiah 11:11: "In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the surviving remnant of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the sea."

ResidentSnitch:
If you were asked to choose between having Israelis as neighbors or Iranians as neighbors, which would you choose?

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Apparently the neighbours of Israel either have to bow down to them or never know peace.

Dr and teacher for me.

Capernum:
You generalize do hastily. Who defines 'dignified'? you or who? That you are hurt because of Iran does not mean he is not who he his. Let me help you a bit. The greatest of leaders that ever existed were highly controversial.

Trump is controversial, no doubt and he can never be appreciated by emotional Lilly-livered people like you. I love men that are highly controversial in their ways and dealings. You weaklings are not fit to define what dignity is. You expect him to think, reason and act you so as to be termed 'dignified'?

You don't have to appreciate him. Your children will do many years to come.

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Controversial, yes.
Dignified no.

Unless you don't know the meaning of the word dignified. Unless you don't understand what dignity is.

A lousy gutter tramp who tells lies at the speed of light and is vulgar and base can never be dignified.

Nwaikpe:
I really don't know if you are listening to yourself.
But if I say, "I won't let you build a house," and then I destroy the one you are building, does that stop you from building another one?
What America is saying now is that: "we obliterated their nuclear sites, but now, we will disable them from being able to build again or for a long time."

Anything more than this, and I am not ready to continue this conversation with you. I am feeling intellectually drained already.

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In short they will have to attack Iran every year.

Mind you, this is not the only contradiction. The guy contradicts himself almost per minute.

Every time he farts you call it a chess move.
Sigh.

And oh, you can't be intellectually drained. There was never anything to drain.

JobAndVacancies:
shut up.
But you won't drop yours against God's blessed and anointed messiah, President Donald Trump

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He is now Christ?

ogmask:
Who takes CNN serious nowadays. The last person he took to court for calling him a pedophile and a rapist was told to pay about 15m USD. As for the Epstein files, it is on record that he is the only president who acted on it in the last 20years. He was the one who blew the lid on Epstein in his first term and now released most of the files. Your Clinton couldnt do it. Obama couldnt touch epstein. Sleepy Joe was busy sniffing children. Only trump. Take am easy make TDS nor do you yeye

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You truly are living in la la land. Who doesnt know that a civil case confirmed that he sexually assaulted a woman and was ordered to pay her?
You are a QAnon fella.

ogmask:
Too many small minded people on nairaland. For una mind iran still dey win war after all their top generals don go cool off with their 72 virgins. Nawa. Trump only dey consider the Iranian people wey go suffer if he decides to go all out. He has achieved his aim and the Mullahs know . If you know Trump you go know say he dey plan something terrible for the regime. Most of you here just think he acts without intelligence from American and Israeli agencies. Nawa

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The bold describes you.

As for the red, its either you dont follow the news or you are in la la land. He ignores and even contradicts the advise of the intelligence community all the time. Try and watch house and senate hearings.

Capernum:
We will all know if he's lying or not. But I think Trump is more dignified than many people think. There are underground stories we don't read online definitely. He's definitely in talks with some representatives from Iran. If you check well, recently, in the last few days, the rate of bombing declined.

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I agree that its possible a faction or group may be speaking to him. But please in the name of all that is decent and holy, I beg you NOT to ever use the word "dignified" in the same sentence with Trump's name ever again. It does not speak well of your learning or your ability to assess people.

jaxxy:
Humbled how? Trump only slowed down because Iran was attacking its neighbours Saudi, UAE and Qatar for no reason to complicated the war.

Iran will be liberated.

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And thats war for you. Didnt he consider that they would do so before impulsively attacking them? War involves permutations of strategy.