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Blossomfirst:
Legend Trump. Great man. RESPECT

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Tells a lot about who you are.

anonimi:
Any idea why the state he shares with Awolowo and Onabanjo is a desecrated land of deliberated uneducated children because progreThief Osoba, Daniel, Amosun and Dapo have failed to leverage UBEC federal funds for nine years free and compulsory education for all children

What then is the usefulness of his storied life if he is an integral part of this country with the most out of school children?


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Whats the relevance of the one drop rule here?

SmartyPants:
Hmmm I can show you pictures of him with Ojukwu, his good friend, and Chinua Achebe, among several other of your icons. Don't let your mouth run faster than your brain.

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He is truly great.

I dont like his association with the frog, but he is truly great still.

Cherrybae:
Real men that fought for Nigeria together with Tinubu and wike.

Not the Agulu fake messiah that shine teeth up and down.

Lamba master that couldn't manage tiny Anambra but wants to manage Nigeria.

God forbid bad thing

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You add Wike there?

Be calming down oh!!!!

Jakumo:
Wole "Kongi" Soyinka, an African Lion in the Winter, whose storied life straddles the nebulous demarcation between mythology and history.

Over 90 yet still in robust health thanks to a lifetime hiking rainforests and savannas alongside fellow hunters and barefoot philosophers.

Wole Soyinka, a prolific literary icon for the generations in Africa, and far beyond her tumultuous shores where the sea meets the sand.

I was privileged to have crossed paths with this physical and intellectual giant once, many moons ago, when he pulled up at the wheel of an olive-drab Jeep and poured fourth traditional libation to mark the denouement of a chronicle not unlike his own.

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Great man.

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tctrills:
You are missing an entire half of the picture. Was satan the AC engineer that also taught them to do Good? Remember, it was not only evil that the fruit opened their eyes to.

Again, you seem to be writing a new bible. The bible we have says they had no knowledge of Good and Evil, but you have changed it to, " they had no knowledge of how to commit evil.

But let's stick to the good part for a while. If we must believe you, it should also mean that Adam and Eve had no knowledge of how to do good. They knew good could be done, but had no inspiration/motivation for it before satan the AC engineer, taught them

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Pls put aside your hatred for me, I really am interested in where you are going with this.

What's your central point?

tctrills:
And you are 69

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But you would not have been philosophising at one year old na. Stop this nonsense.

tctrills:
You boys always decide that others are in bondage. Think about your own life.
I have been asking deep questions probably before you were born and it only led me closer to the truth.

The reason why you are unbelieving is not because you ask questions, its because you have already decided the answers to your questions. Its because of your laziness.

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Surely you are over 70 then.

FxMasterz:
You'll understand it the moment you know what trigger or enlightenment is. When your eyes suddenly open and you come to the realization of something that's always there but now been seen differently. That's the type of knowledge we're talking about here as regards doing evil.

I don't think you'll ever understand.

And you should understand that the person who entices you to do Yahoo is also going to be your teacher.

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I don hear.

FxMasterz:
I know that evil exists but I may not know how to do evil. For instance, you know that Yahoo crime exists but you may not know how to do Yahoo. And of course, you may decide never to do it. You could eventually do it if you were enticed.

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These contradictions are just too horrible. Let me not bother.

FxMasterz:
The absurdity is in saying that one creates evil also does evil. That means there's no purpose for anything. God just just creates things to do them.


All lies. Bring me the so called scriptures.





Probably because you know too little about what I am reasoning about.

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Alright.

FxMasterz:
Didn't I say that you don't understand many things?

Evil is a spiritually tangible force that can be unleashed. Same as Good . That's why we say "Hey, he has a good spirit." That means the person does good good. Good exists but not everyone does it. Evil exists but not everyone does it. Both exist because they were created not because they were done. If God does evil without creating evil. He'll be the only one doing evil because He didn't create it. If The does good without creating good, the same logic applies.

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Pls forget this matter. It is absurd to say that one creating evil is doing no evil.

Aside from this, scripture is full of the many abominable and despicable acts of Yahweh.

I have create a thread that should help your research in that direction if you're sincere.

Nah. Not with the kind of reasoning you're offering here, I would not want to waste my time.

tctrills:
Sorry sir. But you dont believe the bible nah

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The point is that you are asking a question which, if you think well, will lead you out of your bondage.

tctrills:
Says the boy who doesn't believe the bible.

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Will you sharrrraaaaaaaaaaaap at once?
Now kneel down, close your eyes and raise up your hands.

What impudence, addressing your master in such a manner.

FxMasterz:
I don't need to mind. All I know is that the creator or soccer needn't be a footballer. Creation is different from Action.

And I know that your god has no Creator ID. Otherwise, you would have dangled it in my face as I dangled Yahweh's.

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I don't have the strength to go round in absurd circles. That's why I say never mind.

There is no difference between creating evil and doing evil. Evil is not food which one can make and not eat. It exists in its very nature. Anyone creating evil is doing evil. This is not something I can start going around in circles about.

You are right about my perception of God. Because I am agnostic mostly, so I pretty much have very little to say on that. I just have the notion logically and intuitively that there is an ultimate cause or source. Beyond that, I really don't know or claim to know much.

FxMasterz:
Yes. I can create amala without eating amala. Gotcha!


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Where's the ID or your god as the Creator of the world?

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Never mind.

FxMasterz:
So, creating is the same as doing?

If Good and Evil are not created, how can anyone do them? God created them. They exist. That does not mean God does them.

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So God creates evil but does not do evil.
Gotcha.

LordReed - "Word evil does not mean evil."

And you read about all the extra biblical historical evidence in that same Isaiah 45 and all about the Book of Daniel only to conclude that God doesn't exist? I laugh in Swahili.

I told you, you don't understand many things.

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I believe God exists.
Yahweh, in my view, is not God.

FxMasterz:
Give me a scripture that says Yahweh DOES evil.

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What's the point. I gave you one in which he says so himself but all you have done is dance around claiming that he really is referring to non evil things like justified judgement.

Why should I bother. If I were to start listing all of the abominations he has done in scripture, I will obviously be wasting my energy since you can contradict him directly.


Seriously, never mind. It doesn't matter.
Since he doesn't exist.

FxMasterz:
But justified judgement is what Yahweh does.

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This is what I cant stand. You pick a thing that is not evil and use it as an example of the evil that Yahweh says he does. Enough. Don't bother.

FxMasterz:
There's no contradiction. It's all based on the fact that you've misunderstood a lot of things.

Yahweh does only good and not evil. When He judges someone for wickedness and brings evil upon him, that does not translate to him doing evil. If you see that as evil, you're having a lopsided judgement of that action. Let me give you an example.

A man has stolen your goat. He was caught, prosecuted and sentenced to prison. To the man and his loved ones, evil has befallen him. But to you who got justice, good has befallen you. This makes the matter of good and evil somehow subjective. But a wholistic look at the whole thing makes you know that justice is good but it's a bitter experience for the condemned.

These are in levels. There are crimes a person may commit against you that would lead to a death sentence. Evil has befallen the criminal, isn't it? But you who received justice would be glad that such good things have befallen you.

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Justified judgement is not evil so you can't use that as an example.

tctrills:
Wrong.
Revelation 13:8
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

If Jesus Christ was chosen to pay the price of sin before the foundation of the world, the plan was made even before the world was created. It is the one original plan of the Father.

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You will end up becoming an atheist very soon.

FxMasterz:
Yes. Yahweh is capable of doing anything but He doesn't do evil.

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Seems you know better than him, since you are contradicting him. Its alright, never mind.

FxMasterz:
Now, I understand you.

The knowledge that good and evil exists is different from the knowledge to be able to do good or evil. The former was what man had before eating the fruit. The latter is what they had after eating tje fruit. That's why the first murder was recorded only after that.

The knowledge of what could be done is separate from the knowledge of how to do it.

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Why then was Yahweh afraid that the man had become "like one of us, knowing good and evil.?

Does this not show, if we follow your distinction that Yahweh and his "us" were also capable of doing evil.

LordReed:
You didn't need to say it in the first place because this is not the answer to the question I asked. You are dodging answering the question because you know it will skewer you but that's ok, I think I am satisfied at this point. LoLz.

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Since skewered. Tey tey.

FxMasterz:
He was God in heaven and Man on earth at the same time. What exactly do you need clarification on? Or, are you thinking that His human nature was transmitting evil into heaven? Even as man on earth, Jesus was known to be absolutely sinless.

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On the cross, he is said to be bearing the sin of man, hence the argument that God (himself) forsook him at that moment, leading to the cry "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me."

FxMasterz:
You're bit getting me at all.

I'm not arguing about where the council holds. I'm arguing that the scripture presented by lordreed is not adequate enough for what he claims. Please get me right. I am telling him that he's wrongly inferring what the verse didn't infer. I am not discussing about the council's meeting place at all.

As for the scripture in Job, I have told lordreed that even if heaven is inferred as the location of the council, that verse didn't say Satan was dwelling in heaven. This applies to your Ahab scripture above too. Like I said to him, you cannot say there's a cat in my house just because Mr. Donald visits me with his cat. You cannot say there's evil in heaven just because Satan goes there for a meeting. However, there's nothing in that job scripture that states Satan was meeting with God in heaven.

God is not confined to a place. Purge yourself of whatever religion has told you, and learn God for yourself. God is not a Being confined to a place. God having a meeting does not necessarily mean that the meeting is holding in heaven. God is omnipresent.

That's why I gave him thT scripture which he ignored. Perhaps, you can help him. Can you tell me what you understand about John 1:51:


He then added, “Very truly I tell you, you will see ‘heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending on’ the Son of Man."

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I quoted more than those two verses and they also included descriptive verses with the throne of God and heavenly hosts.
I drop the topic. This is too escapist and unconvincing.

chiefolododo:
This woman again

She must be backed by some powerful politicians

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Wait are you the real Chief Olododo

gbagyiza:
Terrorist groups typically operate by controlling the narrative. They always try to project strength—claiming they are in charge and winning, even when reality suggests otherwise. If this particular mission had failed badly, they would likely have been quick to present evidence to the world, arguing that America merely wasted its bombs on Nigerian soil.
Globally, Islamic terrorist groups view the United States as an enemy of Islam, and they rarely miss an opportunity to push propaganda against it. Their silence in this case is therefore telling. It strongly suggests that they suffered significant losses: many fighters were neutralized, and their camps and logistics were heavily damaged.
Any survivors, if they exist at all, are likely in hiding rather than regrouping. In this context, the absence of propaganda is not accidental—it is a signal of a heavy defeat resulting from the American strike.

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This is one-sided because the truth is also that the US virtually always boasts about the success of its strikes especially under their talkative and irresponsible current president.

He would similarly have been too glad and too eager to say what was destroyed and the claim that they suddenly have some tactical reasons to classify the results falls very very flat especially when there was evidence everywhere of unexploded bombs that fell in random and empty fields.

crafteck:
No be only usa restaurants dey, dem no dey do beggy beggy for all restaurants, tipping isnt a right

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Never said it was.
It isn't a sin either.

FxMasterz:
It doesn't because both states don't interfere.

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What does this even mean? Are you saying he was no longer God when on the cross?