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Gotocourt:
Tinubu kissed the Queens hand,

Fasting ticket don cut

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This is very poor protocol.

benalvino3:
I already made my point. I said the act is racist

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Oho so what have you been on about?

But it doesn’t automatically mean dump is broadly racist

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And what is the difference between racist and broadly racist in this matter.

Keep clowning.

benalvino3:
Black people is not Obama.

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Each time I look at this argument I just feel a little less hope for humankind.

It is dumbfounding that any human being could put this forward.

bemeruca:
Translation: I tried it and the AI shows I am not refuting the valid point being made, I am just throwing a tantrum

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bemeruca:
And?

You think your one-sided view is how the world operates?

This is why studies have shown that people like you get skoin skoin. For una head

You are hurling racially charged insults at me specifically because i refused to label the Trump video as proof of blanket racism, and because I am defending nuance around intent againsg isolated acts.

Oga, again, you are using racist tropes/slurs to attack me and my opinion on a discussion about racism. The irony is glaring here, you condemn rightly or wrongly any perceived racial dehumanization in the ape video as unforgivable racism yet you immediately turns around and deploys your own racial insults Uncle Tom/Rukus to demean and delegitimize me as a Black person for the sin of wrongthink.

This is a textbook hypocrisy in full display: racism is only bad when the other side does it. When it's convenient for attacking a dissenter, suddenly racial slurs become fair game abi?

You demands 0 tolerance for even isolated/targeted racial image or tropes when it targets people you like but freely uses racialized attacks when it suits your agenda against a person you disagree with. that's a tribal weaponization of race as a cudgel coupled with your emotions.
If you truly cared about combating racism, you wouldn't stoop to racial insults to win argument.

Calling me Uncle Tom/Rukus doesn't refute my point about intent or isolation it just proves you're willing to sling the same kind of derogatory racial mud while pretending moral superiority.

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You are wasting your time. I am not interested in engaging a person such as you.
You are not worth it.

benalvino3:
Do it na. I provided the link which shows the input is from a fresh chat. I encourage everyone to just take that input or prompt and put it in chatgpt, grok and Gemini and see how petty deepsight is.

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No thanks, I have a working brain.

Flows001:
Do you mind educating me on that please?

The last I checked, this whole fighting started when Israel got its independence in 1948. The Arabs just simply wanted to "erase" the Jews at all cost, for merely existing.

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Let us take a walk down the demographics of the area through history to understand the issues better.

The history of the matter is that roughly two thousand years ago, the Romans destroyed Jerusalem and scattered the Jews into diaspora. They went into Persia but mostly into Europe where they suffered much persecution through the middle ages, the renaissance, the enlightenment and all the way through to the 20th century where they suffered the holocaust.

In the intervening time, Islam had arisen in the 7th Century AD, and by the turn of the millennium the crusades had begun in which troupe after troupe of Christian armies generation after generation sought to displace the Muslims from the "Holy Land." This went back and forth over a couple of centuries and the land would alternate between Islamic and Christian authority - all the time retaining a small Jewish population. The long and short of it is that the presence of Arabs in that land dates back at least one thousand years now.

Now, moving on, by the time the second world war ended, I hope you know that the British had made promises to the Jews via Zionists that they would create a homeland for them in Palestine. At that time, the place was mostly occupied by Arabs like I said, for about a thousand years already. It is unreasonable to claim that it was not home to them. Besides, the European Jews who were returning had been so adulterated that one cannot really claim that they are necessarily of the same ancestry as the Israelites of old. Frankly, most of them today are noticeably white.

At the end of the 19th century, the Jewish population in Palestine constituted a small minority, making up about 5-7% of the total population. The majority of the population was Muslim (around 80%) and Christian (around 10%)."

Please look at the table of demographics in the link below which sets out the percentage of population of each group (Muslim, Christian and Jewish) at various points in history.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-and-non-jewish-population-of-israel-palestine-1517-present

You will note that -

1. From 1517 to 1882 through the rule of the Ottoman empire, the Jewish population varied from 1.7% to 8%. Thus it is clear that the Jews were a distinct minority throughout that period.

2. By the end of the 1st World War, they had become 9.1%.

3. Throughout the period of the British Mandate they grew from 11 percent in 1922 to 32% in 1937. This was the period of the first wave of significant Zionist migration from Europe, and so it is obvious that the majority of Jews in the land were now migrants from Europe.

But hang on, the evidence gets worse -

4. Between 1947 and 1948 - a period of one year only - the year of the creation of the State of Israel, the percentage of Jews jumped from 32% to a staggering 82% - in ONE year only!

This shows conclusively two things -

a. That the migration from Europe formed almost all of the population of Jews by that time as compared to the negligible percent prior to the British Mandate

b.In the same period of ONE year the poulation of non-Jews fell from 1.3 million people to 156, 000 people!

The foregoing discloses conclusively what had transpired. A mass migration of Europeans had flooded the land and there was a mass evacuation/ removal of non-Jews.

Please note that these figures are from the Jewish Virtual Library, lest you claim they are biased.

The above is the historical background and the bold red discloses what the so called proxies of Iran are reacting to aside from the fact that the Israeli State has practically imprisoned and enslaved the Palestinians in an open air Concentration Camp called Gaza while still stealing their land in the West Bank up till today through illegal settlements.

They are reacting to a colonial apartheid regime.

The desperation and corruption of the Frog are so total that it is very unlikely that he can lose any election in this country even if no one votes for him.

Where is the American Army?

benalvino3:
Na. I just Input what I said and what you said. This is an example of you not accepting reality. You are too emotional

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Trash.

The issues go far beyond those single posts. As I said, I can frame an input with any result I desire in mind as well.
Grow up and learn to make your synapses connect.

benalvino3:
Gemini:

This exchange highlights a classic clash in how people define "racism"—specifically the divide between act-based and identity-based definitions.
Here is a breakdown of the two perspectives clashing in your text:
The "Isolation" Argument (Benalvino3)
Benalvino3 is operating on a transactional view of prejudice. His logic suggests:
* Specific vs. General: An individual can use a racially charged slur or trope against one person as a "weapon of opportunity" without necessarily hating that person's entire demographic.
* Intent as Filter: In this view, if the intent is "to insult Obama" rather than "to demean Black people," the act is categorized as a personal jab rather than a reflection of a systemic worldview.
The "Balderdash" Argument (Deepsight)
Deepsight is operating on a symbolic and historical view. His reaction stems from the idea that:
* Inherent Context: Certain insults (like comparing a Black person to an ape) carry centuries of historical weight used to dehumanize an entire race.
* The "Duck Test": Deepsight finds it "incongruous" to suggest someone can perform a quintessentially racist act without being a racist. To him, the act is the proof of the character. If you use a tool specifically designed for racial degradation, you are, by definition, engaging in racism.
Why they are talking past each other
The core of the disagreement is whether racism is a "state of being" or a "series of actions." | Perspective | Benalvino3 | Deepsight |
| :--- | :--- | :--- |
| Focus | The target and the motive. | The history and the impact. |
| Logic | "He just hates this one guy." | "He chose a weapon that targets a whole race." |
| Verdict | It’s a mean, isolated insult. | It’s an admission of a racist worldview. |
Deepsight’s refusal to engage further is likely because he views Benalvino3’s distinction as a logical fallacy—essentially arguing that one can "do" racism without "being" racist, which Deepsight considers an impossibility.
Do you think a person's choice of insult can ever truly be separated from their underlying beliefs, or does the "weapon" they choose always reveal the "armory" they keep?


https://g.co/gemini/share/0bacd4c2eb0a

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More desperation.

Also incapacity to think for yourself.

benalvino3:
Chatgpt

Deepsight’s response sounds sharp, but it doesn’t actually engage with the argument—it just dismisses it. If you want to evaluate who is making more sense, here’s the breakdown:
1. What Benalvino3 is arguing
He’s making a distinction between:
A specific racist act (e.g., calling someone an ape)
Being a racist person overall (holding consistent racist beliefs)
His core point:
A person can say something racist without necessarily being fundamentally or ideologically racist.
That’s a philosophical/behavior vs identity argument—and it’s a legitimate debate position. People argue this in ethics, law, and social discussions all the time.
2. What Deepsight is doing
Deepsight:
Doesn’t address the distinction
Doesn’t refute the logic
Uses ridicule (“balderdash”) instead of reasoning
That’s basically:
“This is so wrong I won’t even argue it.”
Which may feel satisfying rhetorically, but it’s not an actual rebuttal.
3. Who is making more sense?
Benalvino3: Making a structured (even if debatable) argument
Deepsight: Dismissing without counter-argument
👉 So on reasoning alone, Benalvino3 is making more sense, because he’s actually presenting a position that can be analyzed.
4. Where the real debate should be
If Deepsight wanted to respond properly, the stronger counter would be:
Repeated behavior reflects underlying beliefs
Certain insults (like ape comparisons to Black people) are so historically loaded that they strongly imply racist attitudes
That would engage the argument instead of avoiding it.
Bottom line
Deepsight didn’t “win” anything there—he just opted out of the discussion. Benalvino3, whether right or wrong, is at least participating in a real argument.

https://chatgpt.com/s/t_69babf94df988191a9bc040c88d51178

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Pathetic.

benalvino3:
So I did something. Let AI evaluate I and deepsight for grok, gemini and chatgpt. Part 1

Grok
I inserted the prompt:


Response from grok:
Yes, Benalvino3's point is valid and aligns with how racism can function at an interpersonal level.
An act can be racist (involving racial prejudice, a slur, trope, or dehumanization based on race) toward one specific person in isolation — driven by personal spite, anger, rivalry, or a desire to insult/humiliate that individual — without the perpetrator necessarily holding generalized racist beliefs about the entire racial group, or being "a racist" in a broader, consistent sense.
This is a common nuance in discussions of racism:
The behavior itself relies on racial elements (e.g., invoking a historically loaded trope like ape/monkey imagery, which has been weaponized against Black people for centuries to dehumanize them).
The motive might be personal/targeted (e.g., to spite Obama specifically due to political enmity, past conflicts, or just to "own" him), rather than a deep-seated conviction that all Black people are inferior.
Someone could do this once (or rarely) and still treat other Black people neutrally, positively, or without bias in other contexts — meaning it doesn't define them as broadly "racist" toward Black people as a group.
Examples include:
Using a racial slur in a one-off heated argument to hurt someone personally, without believing the stereotype applies broadly.
Selecting racially charged imagery to mock a specific rival (e.g., a political opponent), where the race is incidental to the grudge but the choice amplifies the insult via cultural baggage.
That said, the act remains racist because:
It draws power from racial history and stereotypes — even if the intent is "just" personal spite, the tool chosen carries racist weight.
Impact matters: The targeted person (and many observers) experiences it as racial degradation, regardless of the doer's inner beliefs.
In public figures like Trump, patterns (past comments, birtherism claims about Obama, etc.) make isolation harder to argue, but in principle, a single targeted racist act doesn't require blanket racism.
Deepsight calling it "incongruous balderdash" dismisses this distinction without engaging it. The point isn't to excuse the act — it's to separate isolated/spite-driven racism from generalized bigotry. Both can coexist, and recognizing the difference avoids binary "racist or not" traps that shut down discussion.
If the goal is honest debate, this nuance explains why some defend "not racist overall" while still condemning the specific imagery — it's not always all-or-nothing.

https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw_f5bb3157-864e-4f93-9e27-80ea2696fc67

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Desperation.
Anyone can input prompts in a manner that will produce results desired. I can do the same on this exact same topic with same Grok and enable a different result.

But this is just desperation. No AI can distill such a human matter properly.

Flows001:
Through their proxies, Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, e.t.c.
Israel has intercepted thousands of IRANIAN missiles, rockets, drones, e.t.c, fired at it UNPROVOKED, by Iranian proxies..

They have responded to the proxies, now its time to cut off the head of the snake that has been feeding the proxies to attack Israel.

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Even those proxies were reacting to something Israel was doing already.

benalvino3:
Also, deepsight, even if Trump intentionally calls Obama an app, that won't be enough to make him a racist.
At best he is being a racist to Obama to spite or insult him. That's it.

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This is nothing but desperation.

benalvino3:
But even if Trump calls Obama an ape, he would be racist to Obama, it would be racist or derogatory to Obama in isolation, an insult or spite for Obama. It does not mean Trump himself is a racist or holds racist views toward black people.

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And this finally justifies me.
Nothing more need be said.

Engaging would have been a total waste of time.
Has anyone ever read such incongruous balderdash?

cc: Ijebos/ cococandy.

benalvino3:
You are talking about context when for a movie but won't give context to a political satire that shows both Biden and Obama as primates.

You are not a serious person.

I am not talking about Trump oga,
See what I am talking about

The video mocks every major Dem as a jungle animal. Only the Obama monkey clip gets called “the most racist thing in history.” If it were Biden-as-monkey, left would call it satire.pic.twitter.com/RLMoynAK8j

— Vitruvius Republic 🇺🇸 (@realMAG1775) February 6, 2026

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Predictably you could not understand my simple words

I am not minded to break it down for you.
Except you kneel, plead, trembling, and cowering.

benalvino3:
Deepsight what is a woman?

Bill Maher: "I don't think most liberals are insane, but neither do they make it clear they disapprove of the ones who are, and they're cowardice in not marginalizing their own crazies has been their downfall."pic.twitter.com/vlpLO5aRwA

— Joe Rogan Podcast News (@joeroganhq) March 17, 2026

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Lol. Like your challenged side-kick you seem to still think I have any duty to answer you.

You must kneel for it.

Cower, plead, tremble.

benalvino3:
Is Joe Biden a black man?
Are you mentally stable?
You cannot argue against a single point I made, all you will do is cry.

In Django, a movie, a white man called Jamie Foxx used the N word, slave etc.

Is that man a racist in real life for using the N word and calling Black men slaves?

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No argument can change the facts and you can never live this shame down. Of course I don't expect you to understand the elements of association as per the bold or the elements of context as per the red. In short, I dont expect you to understand anything. You and I know very well that you would defend Trump even if he called your child an ape to your face. I have no duty whatsoever to reduce myself by arguing with one such as you, for every word that proceeds from you is invariably not worth the while of any civilized, self respecting or educated person.

raumdeuter:
The same thing a toddler would say.

Like we all know Liberals are usually mentally disturbed

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One wonders what makes you think I owe you any duty to respond.

I have a most dim view of you, and as such I cant be bothered.

raumdeuter:
You were talking about school some moments back, they didnt teach you that? In Nigeria every Nursery 1 pupil knows it

So again, What is a woman

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ASKO.

raumdeuter:
What is a woman?

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Go ask someone else.

Jangbajantis:
Please who is Hamas?
Who is Hezbollah?
Who is Houthi?

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These bodies generally act in retaliation for the imprisonment and long term enslavement of Palestinians in the Concentration Camp called Gaza.

I ask again when Iran has been the first to strike Israel in any of their wars with one another.

SpencerForbes:
Israel is busy picking off top commanders with surgical precision, while Iran is just 'spraying' drones everywhere like they’re doing a giveaway—yet you people are calling Israel the terrorists?

Use your heads for once: if Israel can hit high-value targets with such accuracy, just imagine the level of destruction if they actually targeted civilians the way some of you claim. But of course, religious sentiment has already clouded your thinking. You'd rather follow propaganda than face the facts on the ground!

I just hope you don’t come back to cry “150 school girls” when they strike back.

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Name one time when Iran was the first to attack them please.

basilico:
I want the Ayatollahs gone yesterday.
I want Hamas and Hezbollah crushed .

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This is a complex matter and the minimum you need is enough balance to also see the terrorism and hypocrisy of Israel and the USA in this matter. Note that I dont like the oppressiveness of the Islamic regime either.

basilico:
I believe in fair elections.Democrats don't.
I believe 2020 was stolen .
I believe the FBI and DOJ under Obama and Biden became extremely corrupt and I lh represented the democrat interests.
I believe a lot of Republicans in the house are just pretenders supporting Trump agenda only to win votes .
There is no evidence human action have contributed global warming. Carbon dioxide is used by plants for photosynthesis and the more CO2 the letter. Greenhouses pump CO2 to hasten plant growth. So the whole climate change is just nonsense and a power grab.
I believe states should maintain their nationality without imposing foreign cultures via immigration.

I believe merit should be the top consideration and not equity where grievance groups are spoonfed to arrive to the same outcomes.

I don't believe in globalists, I believe in free trade but local industries should be protected.
I believe Islam has a lot of problems and grey areas regarding the practices, intentions and the conduct of it's founder.

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You subscribe to a lot of conspiracy theories which belong in QAnon chatrooms.

I can however agree to the bold. As for the red, you simply dont understand the principles. As for the blue, you dont understand the peculiar history of America - or even its unique nature today as a composition of all the peoples of the world.

basilico:
If you bother understand,I'm always a proponent of everyone doing the right thing. I have a few stances that I believe in and post about them every day. Trump happens to have the same stand as I do on those 5 or 6 matters dear to me.

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I have no issues with you agreeing with him on certain matters important to you. I actually agree with him 100% on the transgender matter and gender pronouns and the issue of trans men in women's sports, for example. What you simply cannot tell me if you are balanced and rational is that you have nothing of note to criticize him on, given the many absurd and insane things he does and says.

basilico:
Insult. I'm worshiping a white supremacist. Which particular one and exactly what policies do I worship them?
The video depicted a forest with democrats as apes. Obama is a democrat.
You are the one worshiping a useless man who did nothing for Africa all his life apart from demanding we accept homosexuality.

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The difference between me and you is that I have huge criticisms of Obama. One of them is the bold. Another is what he did in places like Libya and Syria. Huge negatives.

By contrast, you cannot criticize God Trump to save your life.

By contrast you defend him when he calls you an ape.

And no, there was no justifiable context to that video.