budaatum: Except I am not giving this to a swine, as I am fully aware of the hundreds who read what I have to write and want to give me a crate of well aged wine.
In fact I'm going to go and buy myself a relatively young bottle of red and every sip tell myself, courtesy of Deepsight. We can save the aged for whenever we can drink it together.
Xbobtage: for those who don't understand what is really happening, and why the UK royals and government are now frolicking with tinubu all of a sudden. The Answer is the war in Iran. Tinubu has been pleading for this type of visit since he became president and all he got was a finger before now. But the war in Iran has pushed nigeria high up the importance list. Obviously the brits are of a consensus that gulf countries and their ability to maintain their oil and gas supply will be in jeopardy for the long haul, so to cement their orders from nigeria, they quickly remembered tinubus long time request and here we are.
What this also means is that these people will not allow tinubu to lose the election next year, as they would prefer stability/continuity given the current circumstances. So any high hopes on fair election or euro intervention for fair election is down the drain. Other leaders of other world power nations will come knocking soon as well, to guarantee oil and gas supply, while they all work tirelessly in their countries to become fully independent from hydrocarbon energy sources.
What does this mean for the nigerian populace? More Suffering. Obviously Tinubu is very corrupt man, who's primary interest in governance is to steal as much resources as possible to build that eko atlantic city...nothing else. he has no desire or dreams to see this country succeed. He cannot genuinely fight the corruption that is crippling our military and paramilitary institutions because he himself is VERY VERY CORRUPT.
So expect the continued collapse of the nigerian state, and dehumanization of the nigerian people, and hopelessness in governance to remain. Kidnapping as an industry will keep booming, while religious fanatic terrorism will continue to progress and find in roads south of nigeria, poverty and desperation and abject hopelessness is what is driving the recruitment of young kids in the north, middle belt and now southwest, they honestly left with no option,
You can't help but feel sorry for every nigerian who " Nigeria is happening to", there is no hope in sight guys. God help us all!
+ Interesting analysis and I like you take, but one thing is that this visit must have been in the works long before the Iran war started barely three weeks ago.
OneCandleAway: He won't defect. He just has to accepts whoever wins.
+ He should not. A combo between him and Atiku stands the best chance of evicting the Frog from the Rock. However one fears that the Frog will emerge and hop back on the rock even if all the animals in the Forest vote against it.
ConDawah: You also ignored the very fact that Iran has been sponsoring terror groups in these nations before now, but I guess that's OK?
+ Which terror groups and in which countries. Because I don't expect you to mention Hezbollah which does not attack Lebanon or Hamas which is focused in Gaza/ Israel or the Youthis in Yemen given that Yemen is not even among this group
SeverusSnape: Iran is definitely a terrorist nation. Imagine attacking your Muslim neighbours because of Israel and America. Shameless cowards. If they had that Nuclear warhead, they would have used it.
+ Why do you ignore the fact that these countries harbor American bases from where attacks are launched on Iran?
SixSeven: No it is not. I am pro African and not Tinubu's fan but a kiss on the hand is gentlemanly. However where I agree with you is where did we learn this from? He can't try it with some people's wives so culture itself is not one single line. The French president is known for his kisses that has almost got him to trouble. Is it an African culture? No. Is it slave mentality? I wouldn't agree with you on that.
Kissing hands is a symbolic British royal protocol where new Prime Ministers and senior officials greet the monarch, typically involving a light touch of lips to the hand. While often done formally by men, it is not mandatory, and the act is more of a traditional gesture of loyalty than a literal, prolonged kiss.
+ My issue with it is not the act of kissing the hand, that is civilized, it is how low he had to bend to do it.
It is bad optics for any Head of State of a Sovereign nation to bow like that.
Flows001: Abraham was not a JEW, And he was not living in ISRAEL during his time!
Even though Jews are descendants of Abraham, their specific JEWISH history began with JACOB who was named "ISRAEL" by YAHWEH. That was when they started, and the covenant YAHWEH had with JACOB transcended to the JEWS and is still subsisting till date!
You talk about the Cannanites, so where are they today?? Don't even try to come up with that cheap propaganda of them being ancestors of the ARAB occupiers who call themselves "Palestinians". Because even at the time the JEWS were in Egypt, the ARABS were existing in a different place called ARABIA! The Arabs had absolutely no connection to the Cannanites.
The Cannanites, Philistines (Israel's hostile neighbours at the time) e.t.c have all gone extinct.
+ No they haven't.
Anyway we will not get anywhere if we carry on going too far back in history. You probably have the racist belief that Jews are the chosen people and that God gave them the Holy Land.
The reason I mentioned the Canaanites was to show you that the Jews acquired that land in the first place via genocide.
So they do not have any moral high ground in the first place.
Nonetheless it seems you entirely glossed over the population figures I gave you all the way from the 14th century. And the specific change between 1947 and 1948.
Also you said nothing about the horrific treatment of Palestinians in Gaza as well as theft of land in the West Bank which the UN still says is illegal.
Please don't disappoint me by saying that the UN is anti Semitic.
Flows001: If we are judging the "ownership" of a place based on who has lived the longest, then THE JEWS own the land.
I am aware of all the history you have given so far, but you failed to take the history farther backwards to the very beginning, of course in a mischievous bid to cover the actual truth!
How about I take you farther a bit?!
The quran mentioned the Jews over 40 times and even emphatically stated that they own the land of Israel.
In SURA 5:21, the quran records Moses speaking to the Jews thus:
"O my people! Enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.”
There are many other evidences in your own quran that clearly talks about that, mind you, no SINGLE mention of "Palestine" was made in the entire quran. In fact, even Muhammad never mentioned nor made ANY trip to Israel during his lifetime, as ARABS practically had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do on that land.
Now let's go back to the Old Testament of the Bible which is thousands of years older than the quran.
The Bible mentions more detailed account of that land, starting from the exodus of Jews from Egypt, down to how they wandered for 40years in the wilderness before finally settling on tge said land, which was apparently the promised land thaf YAHWEH had promised to their father JACOB.
Any angle you come from, your argument is flawed. Trying to IMPOSE Arabs in a land they never had any strong historical and cultural connection to is an effort in futility. The places mentioned in the Bible are still in Israel till date, which further shows you that the JEWS are historical owners of that place. The site of the temple of King Solomon, the places where virtually all Biblical events happened on the land can still be traced till this day. The burial sites of the Jewish ancestors and Prophets are still present till date. Archaeologists have uncovered so many artifacts connected to the JEWS that date thousands of years ago.
Now I ask, what cultural or historical connection do the ARABS have on the land??
History bears witness that the ARABS own ARABIA (present day Saudi Arabia), none of them ever existed in the land throughout the days of Moses, King David, Solomon, down to Jesus Christ and his disciples!!
The Land belongs to the JEWS, and no amount of propaganda or hatred can take that away from them!!
By the way, you never addressed my point on who actually started the unrest, you had initially tried to blame Israel for beginning the conflict, but after I gave you a summary of how the whole ARAB/ISRAELI wars began, you deviated into half baked history..
+ If you really want to go as far back as possible then answer the following questions.
1. Where did Abraham come from? That's right. Iraq.
2. Were there not Canaanites living there before the Jews came along and started committing genocide against them to steal their land such as with what happened at Jericho?
seunmsg: People can share their experience about a person they know and even speak well of them without necessarily being in the same political camp with them.
The UK state visit of President Tinubu is an historic one and it should normally be a moment of proudness for every citizen of Nigeria. You don’t have to be bitter and negative about everything.
+ How is a state viist an acheivement?
In his personal journey as an individual, yes, as Sowunmi said, it is a remarkable point to arrive at, considering his history in exile there.
But it does nothing for Nigeria as a country, indeed it remains a shame that we can have someone of such dubious character before the world.
House niccas without the benefits of living in the big house
Social media has worked a real number on us
+ Benalvino3, I strongly recommend that you listen to this clip every morning and evening for the next seven days and meditate on it. Same recommendation goes to tctrills, basilico and raumdeuter. Indeed to all African / black Trumpists.
budaatum: Golly, your knowledge is very limited indeed.
Ancient Rome was very diverse in culture. The went to Greece to learn about law culture, and that contributed to their becaming an empire.
Ancient Britain and modern is a nation of diverse cultures. People migrated there from all over with their own cultures and added to what helped create the British Empire with its diverse cultures on which the sun never set.
Ancient and modern China is a nation of diverse cultures. They even adopted what of the culture of USA that they could adopt after the Treaty of Wanghia, having found how inferior to USA they were. So was ancient and modern Germany, France, Italy, Egypt, Greece, Turkey, Malaysia, UAE, Australia, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, Mexuco, Venezuela, etc etc etc. All had and continue to have people of diverse cultures living withing their borders.
Every nation on earth has diversity of culture. Even we Yorubas don't all have the same culture, nor do the Igbos and Hausas have one culture. I'd even go as far as claiming siblings may have different cultures, but I'd need to educate you on what culture is for you to understand, and you haven't paid schoolfees for me to bother. The sum of it however is that not everyone in the same place may necessarily have the same system of behaviors, beliefs, values, customs, and norms that define a group of people, and the diversity enriches, as USA with its diverse cultures from all over clearly shows.
+ This is superb and deserves a crate of well aged wine.
Nevertheless, giving this to benalvino3 you fall foul of Matthew 7:6 and Proverbs 23:9.
bemeruca: Using racial slur at one person does not make you a racist. To be a racist you have to be consistent with the ideology, it has to apply to everyone in that group not just one person you have issue with.
Even Ibrahim X kendy sees this.
Once you use killing to contrast racial act the way you guys are doing, your analogy becomes laughable.
The N word is a slur in context. If black calls each other the N word it is okay, whites do it then it is not. For murder, that debate is not there.
+ At all events, Trump has been consistently racist for decades.
bemeruca: I didn't say that's what you said, but it's a valid argument against what you said to deepsight. Your argument is flawed, so It flips the script perfectly.
+ Being racist to one person makes you racist just as murdering one person makes you a murderer, and just as surely as stealing from one person makes you a thief.
You don't need to be a serial killer to be a killer and you don't need to be a career thief to be a thief.
In the case of Trump however, there is an entire career load of corroborative evidence of that racism.
basilico: *As for the blue' America is a nation of immigrants. Which worked out to make it the greatest nation in history... Not everyone believes this.
+ Opinions are free, facts are sacred. It is a nation of immigrants and that is exactly what has made it so great.
I believe nations should preserve their culture, identity,traditions and values.
+ America's identity is not limited to one specific culture as it is an amalgamation of many cultures. However its values are as enshrined in its Declaration of Independence and Constitution and these are essentially the values of freedom. Virtually no immigrants are against those values except certain Islamists and I agree they need to be rather cautious of the influence of Islam. Europe also needs to be cautious because in the day that Muslims become a majority in Europe, all the hard won liberties of Europe, fought for through centuries of blood will be lost.
America as a nation should not take in people who want to destroy it from within
+ No nation should do this and no one suggests that America should.
Prosperity doesn't come from diversity and that's why I pointed out the Asian tigers.
+ There are obviously many different templates for prosperity.
You can't keep taking in immigrants from wherever because they built the nation.
+ It will remain ironical and hypocritical for the children of immigrants to say no to immigration. In many cases it is actually absurd, as you will see actual immigrants vigorously being anti-immigration. Its simply the story of the crab who gets out of the basket and fights to make sure no other crab does, or the man who climbs the ladder and then destroys it. Its nauseating. Just look at Trump and Vance, both married to foreigners and screaming against immigration. In the case of Melania they actually gave a stripper an Einstein Immigration Pass. Imagine that.
benalvino3: My point is trump can use derogatory or racist trope directed at one particular person because he 8s that particular person, because he wants to hurt the person. That does not necessarily mean Trump is a racist.
Also, the original video I cited has nothing to do with racism too.
When you are close-minded, you want to get out of that little box of yours.
My point is about the essence of the nuance I've been highlighting throughout this discussion. a specific derogatory or prejudiced remark even one drawing on a racist trope, can stem from personal animosity, a desire to wound a particular rival, or situational anger, without the person holding a broader, ideological belief in racial hierarchies. That isolated act can still be called racist because it leverages racial prejudice to inflict harm, but it doesn't automatically brand the person as a racist.
When you used a derogatory trope on me, I did not accuse you in a broader context, I knew your specific insult was directed at me.
+ Desperate. Only shows the absurd extent you will go to defend the man.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 5:30pm On Mar 19
