₦airaland Forum

saintokwuluora:
Trump should takeover Nigeria and use all our oil for the benefit of Nigerian and American people.

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Nah, he should use it to finance his next chain of hotels and also parties with teenage girls. Don't you think that's better.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of the one and only true God.

So he totally differs from all other beings!🙂

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​"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them." — Job 1:6 (KJV/ESV)

Who were these other sons if Jesus is the only one?

QuinQ:
Yet they killed him precisely for claiming to be God

John 10:33
The Jews answered Him, “We are not going to stone You for a good work, but for blasphemy, because You, a mere man, make Yourself out to be God.”

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Please also tell me who were called sons of God in the book of Job.

​"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them." — Job 1:6 (KJV/ESV)


And tell me if they were human.

QuinQ:
Yet they killed him precisely for claiming to be God

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Many have made that claim. Olumba Olumba Obu springs to mind. So does Abd Ru Shin.

However I can cite numerous verses where Jesus denied being God.

QuinQ:
Nobody. They just suffer - why Christians are so lucky to have Lord Jesus!

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How old are you and have you ever travelled to the Middle East or Asia, or indeed within Africa outside Nigeria.

No insult intended. Just asking.

QuinQ:
Not son in the human sense. How can you have a son without a wife. He's a part of God that has always been with God

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Special pleading.
In the Bible, he expressly denies being God over and over again.

Are those referred to as sons of God in the book of Job also sons in the human sense?

WizardOfNG:
Pass am how? Reno is an accomplished and celebrated author, motivational speaker and businessmen. Now an Ambassador of the biggest black nation on Earth. Did you even know any of that?

Whereas Mike Arnold is a dubious individual with no pictures or history beyond 2019 and suspected to be convicted criminal the USA rehabilitated in exchange for using the unprincipled cad as a spy and hatchet man for their dirty jobs anywhere he is required for that. Did you know any of that either?

Bruv, don't let hate of Omokri and your own ignorance /lack of education make a fool of you online.

That you dislike Omokri does not mean you deem him below this attention-seeking and jobless "beast of no nation" Ghost with a shady life no record anywhere chronicles .

He is a US asset and this is how they have always subjugated us in Africa. I.e through using the likes of Arnold to bamboozle people like you who are highly ignorant, never read and have minds there for the taking. Arnold is a terrible person. Reno, whatever you think of him, is an asset to Nigeria and Africa.

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Arnold is not my concern but surely Wizard, you will not celebrate Reno. His duplicity and love of his vomit are reprehensible enough.

QuinQ:
Cc
musicwriter, sonmvayina, you KNOW Jesus is alive because of personal experience with him!
No one needs to tell those dealing with demonic attacks that Jesus is alive, and that demons tremble at mention of that name! You only have mouth because you're not dealing with any supernatural attacks!

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Lol. Who do you think Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, Judaists, Taoists, Shintoists, Traditionalists call on when in similar moments of terror, whatever that terror may be, mental or emotional?

Keep joking.

musicwriter:
That's good. Please, let me know what thread I can learn more about your past opinion about this and related topics

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Well related topics we will be talking some 17 years of contributions on this platform so sorry, it will be too much stress for me to search links.

MaxInDHouse:
Because he is God's only begotten Son!🙂

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1. Whose son are you

2. Who are those referred to as the sons of God in the book of Job.

QuinQ:
Jesus was almost totally unknown except by the few close to him. He was only known in retrospect after Christianity was somewhat established. So it is easy to say anything writen about him didn't refer to him!

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That's also precisely why its easy to create legends about him.

QuinQ:
What about Tacitus? See below

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He didn't mention Jesus by name, rather as "Christus" and said he was executed by Pilate. Notably he was referring to the origin of the term "Christian." He wrote a century after the claimed birth of Jesus of Nazareth, and was talking about the great fire of Rome under Nero and the persecution of Christians.

By the time he was writing, the claims of who was the founder of the Christian sect would have been his reference.

That the said Christus was executed, is not my particular dispute or contest, nor do I say such a character never existed, but for me, it is open to contestation. Certainly, there were many different people with elements of the Jesus story in their lives at the time.

musicwriter:
Historians have already dismissed supposed Joseph's comment about Jesus as a forgery, unfortunately, people are not aware of this fact.

Josephus NEVER said anything about the Jesus of the Bible, instead the Roman empire inserted comments into Josephus's writing to make it appear as if he was talking about the Jesus of the Bible. It was an age of religious forgery to prove the existence of Jesus by any means possible, including by fraud, in fact, they called it "pious fraud" and it was deemed as doing the " good work" of the Lord.

Use any good AI like Grok and put in the following question "how do historians know that Josephus's comment about Jesus Christ is a forgery?" Of course, you can ask subsequent questions around that

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No need for me to check it out, I am very well aware of this. I was actually assessing your credentials.
Pass mark.

musicwriter:
Stop misleading people!!

Again, historians mentioned the names of Jesus'ES of that day that deserved a mention (I've already given you names of some of them). And your Jesus was more prominent than those mentioned- according to your Bible.

A Jesus that was born by a virgin, walked on water, fed multitudes, healed the sick, etc, would have been more important to any historian.

Tell me why historians mentioned names of LESS important Jesus'ES instead of the more important one in your Bible?

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What do you say of the references by Josephus.

Just asking.

I am not a believer, FYI.

musicwriter:
For your information, Judea wasn't and still isn't a large city, whether judging by ancient or modern standard.

The whole place isn't bigger than a local government area (LGA) in Nigeria. So, your whole perception of the size of the place is wrong to begin with.

Yes, historians of that day recorded names of everything, including names of Jesus'ES of that day. But none of them came across or ever heard of the Jesus of the Bible who's supposed to be the most popular according to your Bible. The reason is because your Jesus NEVER existed.

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He is probably a combination of several people, ancient wisdom from the far east and wild imagination.

LordReed:
Yeah they use the picture of the cross to extend their religious symbolism and are not particularly concerned with historical fidelity.

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That is still thoughtless to me.

In many ways, religions do not think about the things that their roots or history imply.

I wonder if he was executed by a snake bite they would be wearing snake pendants.

Cherryediva:
Hello everyone, sorry for the long post
I got married at 22, my husband was 40 at the time. We have been married for 5 years and we have a child together.

My concern is that my husband is not able to satisfy me sexually at all, which is frustrating, I have talked to him about it nothing seems to change. Financially, he is struggling, partly because he gambles a lot. He also drinks alcohol heavily.

I work too but he doesn't want me to have my own money he is always collecting money from me.
He doesn’t have clear goals, ambition, or a vision for the future, and this makes me feel stagnant in the marriage.

He is a good man in terms of character. He doesn’t cheat, he doesn’t abuse me at all, and he treats me well overall.

I’m confused because while he is good to me, I feel stuck and unfulfilled. I would really appreciate advice from y'all who have been in similar situations or who can offer honest guidance.
Thank you.

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Alcoholic, seizes your money, gambles - is your definition of a good man?
And this is also your definition of a long post?

Sister, go think wella.

In defense though, of the great invention that is alcohol (the anesthetic with which men endure the surgery of life), it is only bad when taken to excess without control.

LordReed:
LoLz. The Americans would have been happy though.

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Absolutely!


Seriously though, the thing about the crucifixion method is that it was not just a method of execution - but a method of torturous execution.

Let me be careful to say though that there is the idea that the cross had some other significance and also the idea that he was actually hung from a stake, not a cross. I only add these as the obsessive academic that I am, for they are moot and meaningless points.

It still befuddles me how BAT could appoint this man as an ambassador of all things after all this.

LordReed:
He is confused. LoLz.

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As far as Abrahamic ideas are concerned, you know very well I disagree with his views.
However I align with much of what he has argued in terms of the Kalam Cosmological Argument for the existence of God - or a First Cause, if you prefer.

LordReed:
Yes the issue is the tales of supernatural occurences. You have no wayto support those without simultaneously accepting any other similar tales from other religions.

Like I pointed out to you using the now infamous Nazi symbol which was NOT a symbol of hate before the Nazis started using it, symbols can be repurposed for any thing. You Christians for example believe the rainbow to be a symbol for something other than LGBTQ pride symbolism. The cross previously being a symbol of shameful death doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things, it is what it means to you Christians that matters. In other words a symbol is only as meaningful as you want it to be.

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But it still remains so laughable to me because if they executed Bros Jay with a gun, so na so gun for be the symbol today?

Goo0dHardDick:
Donald Trump should continue as the US president for at least 10 more years.

The man is seriously restoring sanity to the world.

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U are i n s a n e.

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FxMasterz:
He had break faiiure. He was trying to regain control of the car and park it safely when he rammed into a dangerously parked truck

. . . . errrr.... not parked on the road oh.

Oxb90:
I thought by now he should be busy with his ambassadorial duties.

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Not only that. There is a certain etiquette to be attached to ambassadors. He cannot be an ambassador and be engaging in these wanton online arguments. It makes nonsense of the dignity of an ambassador.

Lanretoye:
you don’t just sit somewhere for argument sake and concoct what ever you think will suit your narrative,that’s is what is called blatant lies.

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Haba. Which lie have I told. And I only politely asked what you think. No worries, forget it. Morning.

Lanretoye:
sit down and have a quiet time,think if it is possible for wike to demand 200b out of 600b from the governor...when he was governor himself does that mean he was taking 400b for his pocket?,

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For the sake of argument, lets say it was not such a sum.
Are you saying any other sum would have been okay?
Just a question. I am not assuming what you are saying.

Inspirer1:
This is why I don't like that "Fuel subsidy removal" stuff, more money to politicians at the expense of the masses....what's the difference? Marginal difference, just a change of who benefits... The masses are even worse off now than then.

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Simple and short. Every sane person who knows Nigeria well always knew that any savings would be for the politicians to wack. This alone defeats all arguments in favour of the removal.

helinues:
Pure happiness is not about your account balance

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But pure misery can be.

Zxxxxxxx

LordReed:
You literally:



You literally acquiesced to the universe being a "being" which we wouldn't be able to fathom. Yet you claim the god sent you his son to die for your sin.

Fact is the word god is meaningless which is why you can prevaricate like a dying man grasping for straws.

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He is not pantheist. He just notes the possibility of how things may be way different from what is conventionally thought.

jaephoenix:
You're just making this thing painful for yourself.
Who created Satan? Yhwh! Is Yhwh omniscient? Yes! So why did he create Satan,a being he knew would bring in evil into the world and corrupt his angels and humans?
When you say god has a rescue plan,do you mean flooding the world? Because an all knowing god would not flood the world if he knew sin would comeback. If he knew sin would return,why flood the world in the first place? What was the point?

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These and more are fundamental issues about some religious ideas of God which can never be resolved.

Particularly the Abrahamic God.

That God who tests his follower with a command to kill his son, who destroys the life of a faithful one to win a wager with the devil, who conspires through lies and commands genocide, whose recipe to forgive his own creation from the imperfection he created them with is ritual sacrifice of his alleged son. . . That sort of being can only be despised by any sane person.

Thankfully, it is a figment of the imagination of man. Not so thankfully, that imagination is powerful enough to have caused untold misery.

CHIEFCHICKEN:
Rivers never go dry unless it's a state 🤣🤣

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CHIEFCHICKEN:
Terms and conditions are always presented, you should have said "No" from the start.

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Only for the Godfather to choose any other option and still steal Rivers dry?